Massage Parlor Reports

[Dick North]

Mongers.

Don't see enough AMP reports, mostly chit chat about prepaid cards and other issues.

Sure would like to see reports about AMPs as opposed to BP experiences.

Just my take on the current reporting.

DN

[Warren Z]

How they have gotten clients to infiltrate referral sites etc is contact the customer and ask about the charge and scare the guy (maybe in front of his wife) to testify against the massage / escort / website assuring him he will not be charged.

Never, never, never "cooperate" or answer LE questions, especially tips you leave on a card. Since when is it illegal to leave a very generous tip

Truly outstanding services? If they tell you that they have you on videotape and if you'll cooperate, they'll be easy on you or let you go,

DON'T BUY IT. THEY ARE LYING TO YOU. It's not against the law to leave big tips. It's not against the law to be stupid with.

Your money. Don't let fear or a guilty conscience cause you serious trouble you don't need. Never, ever admit to anything.

[Buschman]

Well I have been in PHX for a month working now and this is my summary on parlors visited;

1- Flamingo IL on Thomas. Dede beautiful gal nice rack and ass- lousy attitude way short on time, totally full of herself, told me I was lucky to be allowed to look at her body, will not repeat.

2-the house on Glendale and 50 ave A Touch of Phoenix? I think that is the name- Jenny laotian young and pretty heavy in the ass and thighs but nice and firm, no table shower unfortunately but got a good massage w / HE 60/60 dress and bra off but panties on quoted me 200 for FS and when I said thats way high she said "young body tight pussy"I.

Would repeat.

3- Red Butterfly Massage no address but it is on 34th ave south of Glendale another Jen again no table shower 'whats with a lack of table showers in Phx I know there are plumbers here' nice tits {be- cup} a little cottage cheese on the belly but nice looking China gal moderatley decent massage 60 house / 100 nude CBJ will not repeat but wasnt bad.

4-Oriental Massage- on 24 ave south of Missouri no tableshower but a small Jacuzzi tub which I liked- Pam older Vietnamese gal, claims 35 but I would add 5-10, chuncky gal but firm and nice, very good massage with lots of play, climbed up on the table with me for as close to a GFE session as I have been able to find in Phx. { swear to god Las Vegas has spoiled me} 60/100 for a good session CBJ, lfk doesn't like fiv but DATY was clean, have repeated and might just repeat tonight!

5- Massage-10 which you all know about beautifull korean gal I think there have been enough reviews on this place.

That sums up a month got a few more days of work left. Any body willing to share a real GFE type massage or escort gal please let me know.

[Warren Z]

"Staying in Scottsdale, looking for a FS AMP, preferably not Chinese or Korean"

If you take the Chinese and Korean out of the mix, your choices are not too great. Knew a nice Viet woman at the place near 32nd and Thomas, but that was 5+ years ago I'd have to guess that the AMPs are at least 85% Korean or Chinese. Always preferred the Koreans.

Off topic: Anybody have recent info on "June"? I see she sometimes works at Midtown, other times Cleopatra's. I think I recognize her from years ago, maybe at Biltmore Clinic, but am not sure.

Any help?

Thanks

[Dirty Old Guy]

Ryan,

You do know that there is a New York board, don't you?

Dirty

I don't know anything of the MP scene here, but am curious of West Garden in NYC is still operating? That place was heavenly, even though limited menu! My first AMP experience many moons ago.

[Mwolf]

I don't know anything of the MP scene here, but am curious of West Garden in NYC is still operating? That place was heavenly, even though limited menu! My first AMP experience many moons ago.

They have been many a man's first AMP experience. As close as you can get to the McDonald's of AMPs. I don't know if they are still open, but if they are, I understand the lease is not going to be renewed. Incredibly, I've never been there.

Looked at Mya's ad, too big for me. Staying near old town (?) , must be something around here.

[PartyDiver]

Thanks for the info. Umm, how thick? And what is the expected $$$?

This thread is much more interactive than NYC. It's a pleasure to see.

I saw a mention earlier of Vietnamese, Thai and Filipinas. Any of those around? Under 40, preferably.

Thanks

Mya from USA Spa is who he was referring to. Just search for Mya on backpage. $ for half FLAT. Worth the trip- just don't bother with any others that may be there- Mya is the only one to see.

[Member #5432]

Thanks for the info. Umm, how thick? And what is the expected $$$?

This thread is much more interactive than NYC. It's a pleasure to see.

I saw a mention earlier of Vietnamese, Thai and Filipinas. Any of those around? Under 40, preferably.

Thanks

I don't know anything of the MP scene here, but am curious of West Garden in NYC is still operating? That place was heavenly, even though limited menu! My first AMP experience many moons ago.

[Mwolf]

You can try USA spa is you like thick Latinas.

Thanks for the info. Umm, how thick? And what is the expected $$$?

This thread is much more interactive than NYC. It's a pleasure to see.

I saw a mention earlier of Vietnamese, Thai and Filipinas. Any of those around? Under 40, preferably.

Thanks

[Butter3592]

Staying in Scottsdale, looking for a FS AMP, preferably not Chinese or Korean, maybe something a little different out here. Any suggestions? I'd be happy to make recommendations in NYC. BBBJCIM / rimming.

Thanks

You can try USA spa is you like thick Latinas.

[Mwolf]

Staying in Scottsdale, looking for a FS AMP, preferably not Chinese or Korean, maybe something a little different out here. Any suggestions? I'd be happy to make recommendations in NYC. BBBJCIM / rimming.

Thanks

[Anotheronedown]

Paid a visit to 4seasons. Wish I would have stayed home. Greeted by a half asian with a nice rack. Paid the 50, got a decent rubdown but only 20 minutes of it. , no table shower. Told it was broke (after I paid). Anyways, she quoted $$ for everything, and HARD negotiated to 120. She took the money out, came back in nekkid. Wow for the bod.

Anyways slipped a cover on and laid flat, I moved for a BJ and she giggled and said no. I was like, WTF. You said everything? She goes, no and points to the vag. Pissed I go On and went to play with the kitty to get myself going and again, told no. Whatever, determined to make the most of it, I mount and goto town. Then I go to suck on some titty, told No louder. Then somebody knocks and yells some unintelligible shit. She pushes up and lets some older gal in, and I'm told to leave.

I'm done with the AMPs burned way to much.

[DavePHX]

So basically Scottsdale is using credit cards receipts to chase mongers? This seems odd since it would not seem likely that an overly large tip would not be probable cause to harass someone, let alone to stick in court.

No this is not the purpose. If this report is true, it is not probably cause to arrest but you do not need probably cause to harass!

How they have gotten clients to infiltrate referral sites etc is contact the customer and ask about the charge and scare the guy (maybe in front of his wife) to testify against the massage / escort / website assuring him he will not be charged.

In Chicago are they charging massage places with FELONES? They do in Phoenix, and owners have gone to prison (and one committed suicide just before sentencing) In Phoenix if its a massage parlor, independent escort with another, agency (few left) or the Phoenix Goddess Temple its a criminal enterprise felony and every credit card or cash tracked (if records kept) is a money laundering felony. And the charges are tiered which results in the threat of 10++ years in prison if they don't take a plea agreement (lifetime felon but with 12-18 months probation usually).

Even worse, Phoenix (and other cities) can arrest especially escorts with no contact simply because of words on websites I. E. GFE or worse. Solicitation is the same as prostitution in Arizona an if two or more gathered can go after criminal enterprise felonies.

They seem to do this often with the various roundups like R. O. S. E, take them to the Church for rehab stings or with the joint FBI taskforce that does the periodic multi-city stings in many USA cities.

These are great publicity gimmicks that raise millions of dollars of donations to "rescue" groups, police grants etc for "trafficking" They use the child excuse but almost all arrests are private consenting adults.

The gal takes 99. 9% the risk, as there have been no prosecutions for years as far as I know for just customers. But they can be intimataded into turning on gals to based on the threat to have to save themselves.

The stings are not all the time and with the huge number of folks in Arizona the risk to any one gal is low. However felony records and a nightmare has been had for those caught up in the sting. The Last R. O. S. E operation caught 76 gals. The police have pictures and ads in police cars to I'd and often posts from review boards. One in particular. Not this one.

[Cracker]

Warning to all my other monger friends. Trust me this comes from a very good source inside LE.

Scottdale PD and Phx PD have been working together for several years and I guess due to budget restrictions or maybe they get spotted too easy because the only talk and don't expose themselves because of entrapment laws, they have now started an active credit card search of massage parlors.

In the one I know about, Massage Body Works on Shoen in Scottsdale, they pulled the credit card reciepts and found a. 4 charge for massage and. 6 for tip.

Long and short, they went to guys house, he fessed up and now girl got arrested and he is forced to testify or gets charged. Don't know about you but I don't want LE knocking on my door and asking the little woman if they can talk to me.

Some of these guys are just doing a job, others get their nut jamming you up. Most vice cops thinks this is funny shit and enjoy telling stories of how stupid some of the girls and we are.

Several reasons not to use a credit card.) the girls learn your real name. 2.) If you tip more than massage or equal to the cops are not stupid.

I am not new to this game, and am sure most of you don't need to read this message. Just an FYI what Scottsdale and Phx have teamed up to do.

Hey I'm not paranoid, but I don't park infront either.

A few people know me on this board even though I am new to posting.

I hope I have contributed something worth while other than another good place to hit.

A better name for me would be Torpedodude, has surfaced again.

So basically Scottsdale is using credit cards receipts to chase mongers? This seems odd since it would not seem likely that an overly large tip would not be probable cause to harass someone, let alone to stick in court. Wouldn't they have to bust the place to get their records and I think they would need a warrant to do that. Also what guy is going to admit he left a big tip because he committed an illegal act? Furthermore why would anyone use any kind of credit card, it's not like you are renting a car. Cash for the most part is untraceable unless the SPD is going to call forensics to check it for fingerprints. Not only do I not want any LE having a paper trail, I don't want the people running the place knowing my name. I live in Chicago and visit Scottsdale frequently and believe me LE here is way harder on the massage shops here than LE in the PHX area, based on my opinion of reading the two boards and visiting PHX area. Getting extra service in Illinois requires more persistence and patience and finally when you have found a decent place, the cops are busting it for either prostitution or some code violation. They never arrest the mongers, too costly and to hard to make stick. I can only think of one occasion in the last 15 years where they arrested two customers, but in this case it was a long and costly sting operation, in general they just keep sending in cops, until one of the ladies makes a mistake then BAM. Or they send in inspectors to find building code violations. When I am out in the PHX area the women are less aprehensive about making it known that more than a massage is offered and per capita there are way more massage places than in the Chicagoland area, so if PHX / SPD LE thinks it is major scourge the way they do in IL, then I think there would be a lot fewer in PHX area. If LE wanted these places closed they would find away to shut the majority of them down without chasing mongers all around the valley to find out why they are such great tippers. This does not mean you should not take precautions in your beautiful state, I basically follow these rules everywhere.

1. Always pay with cash to avoid leaving a paper trial and to protect your identity.

2. Bring in only the most you plan to spend in cash and leave your wallet locked and hidden in your car.

3. Avoid parking in front, this is a hobby of discretion.

4. If by the unlikely chance you are there when a raid happens, do not admit to any illegal act or intention, even if LE catches you in the act, which would be unlikely unless you and her were both deaf. The police are there to make arrests, they are not going to cut you a break no matter how honest and nice you are. Most people think that if they straight with LE, that they will get some slap on the hand and a boys will be boys attitude. Big mistake.

So all of that being said. Do not get paranoid but keep in mind even though you think what you are doing is harmless is between two adults, LE does not see it that way. So don't make yourself an easy target.

Good and safe hunting to all you seniors and soon to be seniors.

[Jonesy47]

I went to an old ATF, Mya called her and someone else answered and book my appt. No big deal, but when I showed up I saw it was that old lady "Gina". She told me to follow her, I asked about Mya and said yes you'll be seen her. Showed me to a room and asked for donation, I was like that's new, and asked how long I'm staying. Had a bad feeling and should've left. But paid my normal fee for 15 min. I waited almost 25 minutes then Mya came in and was buisness like from the start. We had been becoming quite Familiar and friendly over past sessions and I felt she was a real keeper. But this time was all buisness started quick HJ and felt good but very rushed. Told her I wanted more but she just went along like I didn't say anything. I knew it was going to be HJ only, And let go but was very unhappy to say the least.

It was weird, I've been going there for the past year and almost always left happy and Satisfied. I noticed that the few times I left unhappy was when Gina is around, maybe she is just the one pushing for quick releases and more business. Idk but not going back for a long time or never again. Had some great times with Mya. Oh we'll I've been doing some hunting on the streets like the old days and meet some great new regulars on BP also.