"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**F Scott** · 10-05-12 16:36

Originally Posted by Dog Rice [View Original Post]

Interesting fact.

How many of SBs are GPS (stating 3k / mth or above in my mind)?

I don't think it matters, honestly. Let's say that 1/3 of them are suffering from GPS, so roughly 1900 of them. Even if every registered daddy were willing to pay 3K a month, which of course we aren't, that still leaves about 900 babies out in the cold. What this ratio says to me is be patient, stick to your guns in terms of your sugar comfort level, and don't slam the door in any baby's face. They may very well come back and contact you again; there's just no way they all are getting snapped up. Plus, if the babies I talk to are telling the truth, a good portion of those 917 daddies are jerks, creeps, liars and perverts (you know who you are), which is good for us remaining normal ones.

With great power comes great responsibility, however, so be polite.

Scott

**Dog Rice** · 10-05-12 15:54

Interesting fact.

How many of SBs are GPS (stating 3k / mth or above in my mind)? In S. California, seems that there are quite a lot of GPS, so can't count them.

Happy hunting, Scotty!

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

Gentlemen,

I just learned an amazing thing: in my area, Chicago, within a 50 mile radius of my zipcode, there are 917 registered SDs on SA, and. Wait for it. 5801 registered SBs! It boggles the mind! Now certainly there are inactive or dormant profiles in both of those numbers, but still! That's six babies for every daddy, and that's just in a 50 mile radius.

I'm not sure at all what to make of this, or to do with this fact, but there has to be something that will benefit me.

Scott

**F Scott** · 10-05-12 15:25

Gentlemen,

I just learned an amazing thing: in my area, Chicago, within a 50 mile radius of my zipcode, there are 917 registered SDs on SA, and - wait for it - 5801 registered SBs! It boggles the mind! Now certainly there are inactive or dormant profiles in both of those numbers, but still! That's six babies for every daddy, and that's just in a 50 mile radius.

I'm not sure at all what to make of this, or to do with this fact, but there has to be something that will benefit me.

Scott

**WoodSlinger** · 10-05-12 11:31

My last post in this thread was a bit callous. I enjoyed reading about HG's escapades, he certainly has way more cajones than I do. What threw me off and made me write that post was the lead in with "Busy busy last couple of days. Also in keeping with the spirit of the thread no bragging / notch pics." Then telling one incredible story, that most in this thread will never have the opportunity to experience. That 'sounds' like bragging to me. As usual your interpretation may differ.

**EuroInCincy** · 10-05-12 10:32

Originally Posted by JoesParty [View Original Post]

What are some of a SD's worst nightmares? Being outed. STDs. Blackmail. And there certainly are countless others.

I can explain strep throat. It's not so common for adults (I've not had it since I was a kid) , but it's not outside the realm of possibilities. But mono? How in the world would I ever explain that?

Joe

Why the need to explain. You come in contact with others don't you?

Best explanation if asked "pffffff hell I wish I knew. I don't want this. Sad face"

**JoesParty** · 10-05-12 09:59

What are some of a SD's worst nightmares? Being outed. STDs. Blackmail. And there certainly are countless others.

But what about getting sick? I met my 18yo HYB (and current favorite) more than a week ago for a movie. We both felt a little under the weather with colds, so we thought a movie was the best way to see each other while avoiding any significant contact. Well, I'm sad to say I lost my self control, and we ended up at a hotel afterward, where there actually was quite a bit of physical contact. Amazing physical contact. Physical contact in all kinds of positions.

Within a couple days, though, she was feeling worse, so much so that she went to the doctor. They ran all kinds of tests, including for strep throat and mono. Now, I'm home from work and not feeling so great.

I can explain strep throat. It's not so common for adults (I've not had it since I was a kid), but it's not outside the realm of possibilities. But mono? How in the world would I ever explain that?

I went to the doc yesterday and was prescribed something to make me feel better while I await my own test results. Keep your fingers crossed for me, gents.

I've been reminded of a valuable lesson here: Sometimes it costs dearly when you lose self control.

Regards,

Joe

**EuroInCincy** · 10-04-12 23:30

Ok so my ATF perfect little sb, got a bit possessive. You heard the story. And during that exploration trip of her. She found one (SD) she wanted toy meet. So I said "go ahead make my day" as you humans like to say.

The closer it came to the day, the less enthused she became, but she did meet him. End of the story was. She did not enjoy herself, but was happy with the amount of sugar she got, it was more for the 4 hours with him than she got from me in total for the last 7 months. This proves my previous quote. An ATF does not have to cost an arms and a leg, perhaps not even a rib.

**F Scott** · 10-04-12 18:54

Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]

One of the things that has always drawn me to this forum was a sense of civil discourse. All you have to do is review any of the more active forums in the major populations centers and you will be assaulted by some really mean commentary.

I see this forum treading towards uncivil discourse. And that is unfortunate. I would argue that useful info, bragging, horror stories, philosophical discussions, and words of wisdom all have a place within this forum.

SubCmdr out

There is always knowledge to be gained. The majority of us are playing at a higher level, I believe, and so let us put aside our petty differences and re-commit ourselves to focusing on what makes this thread special. If anyone wants to fight, take that shit outside.

Scott

**FeelGoodMd** · 10-04-12 18:21

Thank you, GC, for putting so much thought into your comment. I would claim that I've been reflecting on my own reply for the past two days, but in all honesty (intellectual and otherwise) I haven't been on the board since my last post.

Some of what I would have said in reply has already been voiced by SubCmdr, so there's no need to repeat it. I will grant that I could have handled the conversation in a more chivalrous manner, but I ask you to reconsider your implication that I am mean spirited and am not a gentleman. Were this the 18th century I might throw my glove at your feet and challenge you to a duel to uphold my honor, but in our circumstances that is highly impractical and (let's face it) rather childish.

I agree that my answer was a slap in the face. It was not intended primarily to hurt or punish, however, but rather to be a "wake-up call." I do (still) like her immensely, want her to be happy and successful in life, and have never said / texted a cross word to her other than that final message. I would like to think that, once she gets past the hurt, she will recognize that she must have crossed a very important line to have drawn a response so cold and "mean spirited."

Again, thank you for the thoughtful and thought provoking response (and to you, SubCmdr, for providing another well-reasoned perspective).

Dr. Feelgood.

Originally Posted by Golfcart [View Original Post]

I've considered and reconsidered this post before sending it.

FeelGoodMD has what he calls his first and favorite SB. This speaks volumes considering what happened.

She moved away to attend grad school. He should want that for her.

There was to be a second trip just to see him. His words not mine. Kudos that without being asked he offered to give her the usual plus $. She countered $$ extra saying,"I need the usual plus $$ to come down."

This is where things went south. Deciding to burn the bridge (as he termed it) he sent her the most demeaning and mean-spirited message of all, his words, not mine.

A gentleman would have responded with accommodation, possibly with silence. Either one would have left the door open. Mean-spirited people lack this capacity. It isn't in them. They must win. Such is the lot of FeelGoodMD's first and favorite SB.

Since intellectual honesty has become the phrase de jure I mention it is intellectually dishonest to hold pay-for-play women in a light different from us. Tell-tale signs of this flaw are evident in posts board-wide quite often. This is something I've never understood.

**SubCmdr** · 10-04-12 17:30

One of the things that has always drawn me to this forum was a sense of civil discourse. All you have to do is review any of the more active forums in the major populations centers and you will be assaulted by some really mean commentary.

I see this forum treading towards uncivil discourse. And that is unfortunate. Do people go on tangents that I find uninteresting? They sure do. Do I usually feel the need to comment on the quality of the posts. No!

I would argue that useful info, bragging, horror stories, philosophical discussions, and words of wisdom all have a place within this forum.

SubCmdr out

**Hornytoad1** · 10-04-12 17:12

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

Busy busy last couple of days. Also in keeping with the spirit of the thread no bragging / notch pics. I have been casually dating 2 absolute non-pros that were both pot sb's for a few months. All visits are about $200 per 24 hour day. Both girls know about the other one and agreed to share me for the time being with a set schedule. Both say they love me and both are real gf relationships that evolve around non-stop touching and I love you's.

I have not been in any gf relationship in 3 years. Only per date or strict sb / sd arrangements where falling in love was not on my menu. Both these girls are 100% exclusive to me. So all uncoverd all the time. 23 and 25. One from africa the other armenia. Both 5. 7 115 lbs. Real lookers I can take anywhere. Both have jobs and their own cars. The armenian drives a new bmw. So she gets to do all the driving. Also hired the armenian to work for me and she says that is the only money she wants (we'll see how far that goes)

Today one got a little jealous of the other but got over it in about 4 hours. Did both of them today and still kept my date with a sometime repeater that gives good everything. Haha. Hopefully tomorrow I can focus on work to pay for all this insanity.

I did enjoy the read but at the same time was thinking I'm glad its not me, Let us know when the "shit hits the fan" Not if but when.

Thanks

**John G Smith** · 10-04-12 16:49

Yeah HG's post was fine. Honestly anytime any of us reports on a good encounter with a SB it could be considered bragging, so I don't think it's a big deal. Not every report has to be a sob / horror story. We're all in different situations so we may have different experiences with our good encounters.

Anyway, I've always dreamed about having a SB work for me but it just seems waay to risky for me to ever give it serious consideration. I don't like the idea of my sugar life bleeding into my work life if something went wrong. And HG even though you're single, you still have to worry about the possibility of a sexual harassment charge down the line if she turns bitter. So be careful!

**Varoom** · 10-04-12 14:23

Originally Posted by WoodSlinger [View Original Post]

That sounds like a fun time and all, but it still sounds a whole lot like bragging. Not much useful information there at all.

Disagree / Nothing out of line here from HG. This arrangement certainly wouldn't be for everybody but it is certainly SB related and an oddity at that. Enjoyed the read and certainly others will too.

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

Both girls know about the other one and agreed to share me for the time being with a set schedule. Both say they love me and both are real gf relationships that evolve around non-stop touching and I love you's.

Hopefully tomorrow I can focus on work to pay for all this insanity.

You must be a freakin daredevil HG. You enjoy high-speed chases and you've got one here that appears to be taking corners at very high speeds. How long has this been going on, and more importantly, how long do you think that it can continue before one of them goes off-point BIG time? Just curious. But more power to ya HG and enjoy each and every minute of it. Seems like the only thing that you are missing here is incorporating a 3way; except the risk there might be that they fall for one another and cut ole HG out. All the best in your endeavor here.

**EuroInCincy** · 10-04-12 14:23

Originally Posted by WoodSlinger [View Original Post]

That sounds like a fun time and all, but it still sounds a whole lot like bragging. Not much useful information there at all.

YES I agree. Most of his posts are like that, I did made a comment once, but then he seems oblivious and just wants to show all here how good he is.

**WoodSlinger** · 10-04-12 09:29

That sounds like a fun time and all, but it still sounds a whole lot like bragging. Not much useful information there at all.

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

Busy busy last couple of days. Also in keeping with the spirit of the thread no bragging / notch pics. I have been casually dating 2 absolute non-pros that were both pot sb's for a few months. All visits are about $200 per 24 hour day. Both girls know about the other one and agreed to share me for the time being with a set schedule. Both say they love me and both are real gf relationships that evolve around non-stop touching and I love you's.

I have not been in any gf relationship in 3 years. Only per date or strict sb / sd arrangements where falling in love was not on my menu. Both these girls are 100% exclusive to me. So all uncoverd all the time. 23 and 25. One from africa the other armenia. Both 5. 7 115 lbs. Real lookers I can take anywhere. Both have jobs and their own cars. The armenian drives a new bmw. So she gets to do all the driving. Also hired the armenian to work for me and she says that is the only money she wants (we'll see how far that goes)

Today one got a little jealous of the other but got over it in about 4 hours. Did both of them today and still kept my date with a sometime repeater that gives good everything. Haha. Hopefully tomorrow I can focus on work to pay for all this insanity.