"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**CantWinLosin** · 01-04-12 20:50

As others noted: 9's across the board. She looks as good live as she does in her pics, her skills are, with a couple of exceptions, at the very top of the heap, and she's sweet, personable and tasty. It was as much fun as any escort engagement I've ever had. And, unfortunately, as devoid of any sort of emotional connection as any of those engagements as well.

For some of us, that emotional connection is a part (sometimes a big part) of why we seek a SB scenario rather than meetings with random or specific escort. Skills, physical beauty and hotness are all great. But when that extra spark isn't there, you miss it.

So will I see her again? Sure. But I will continue to look for a real SB.

**Spitfire** · 01-04-12 20:31

Originally Posted by Zman429 [View Original Post]

I'm trying this on seeking arrangements and was wondering what you approach is. I'm used to online dating sites so not sure how to open.

Z

Check out BigTigger's excellent post for a start.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...=1#post1221918

I believe it's tailored to AM, but it really applies to all of the sites.

**F Scott** · 01-04-12 19:52

Originally Posted by Bus Nut [View Original Post]

Yes, there are different levels of credit reports.

The credit bureaus are not what anyone serious uses to check on you. Accurent (not sure of spelling) is the one of choice, along with Lexis-Nexus and a couple others. These are also used by employers as well, (UPS, as an example) and others.

To avoid SO's (and others) from discovering a SB or other arrangement, either do as one of the previous poster said and have the other person set up an account and make deposits into it if you can. Use cash, not a check or credit card transfer.

However, a friend of mine advised me that SOME major hotel chains will not accept a debit card at check in. It does not "establish credit" with the hotel. Some, or course, do not care.

If your SB sets up a prepaid debit card using Green Dot, you can always purchase with cash a "MoneyPak" and load their Green Dot card that way. You will need the number to do so, but it's an option.

As for reserving a room, try this approach. Go to the library or use your secure computer and go to Priceline. Com, use "Name Your Own Price" and use the SB's prepaid card. If your deal is accepted the room is prepaid on that card.

That has worked for me perfectly in the past.

Great advice, Nut. Thanks!

**F Scott** · 01-04-12 19:49

Originally Posted by BigTigger [View Original Post]

Not sure if it's helpful, but I took it one step further. I have a product called "Folder Lock". It hides a directory and all other kinds of fun stuff. I then installed Firefox on that directory. I use stealth mode, so I have to hit key strokes to bring up the software to open the directory. This allows me to keep all my bookmarks, etc.

BigTigg

Gentlemen,

Would it make any sense whatsoever to start a new thread that dealt exclusively with these kinds of issues? I know there is a wealth of information already on this particular thread, but it is tiresome to hunt it down, and there is always the danger that something gets overlooked. I"m not sure how Jackson has set things up, but could it be a sub-thread of this one? Just a thought, but it seems to me that it would be a shame not to capitalize on the accumulated knowledge and experience that is clearly here.

It might mean recovering old ground for the sake of getting it all in one place, but I would be willing to do my part. That way any newbies could be directed there, and come back to us once they have tales to tell.

What do you all think?

Scott

**Bus Nut** · 01-04-12 19:44

Yes, there are different levels of credit reports.

The credit bureaus are not what anyone serious uses to check on you. Accurent (not sure of spelling) is the one of choice, along with Lexis-Nexus and a couple others. These are also used by employers as well, (UPS, as an example) and others.

To avoid SO's (and others) from discovering a SB or other arrangement, either do as one of the previous poster said and have the other person set up an account and make deposits into it if you can. Use cash, not a check or credit card transfer.

However, a friend of mine advised me that SOME major hotel chains will not accept a debit card at check in. It does not "establish credit" with the hotel. Some, or course, do not care.

If your SB sets up a prepaid debit card using Green Dot, you can always purchase with cash a "MoneyPak" and load their Green Dot card that way. You will need the number to do so, but it's an option.

As for reserving a room, try this approach. Go to the library or use your secure computer and go to Priceline. Com, use "Name Your Own Price" and use the SB's prepaid card. If your deal is accepted the room is prepaid on that card.

That has worked for me perfectly in the past.

**BigTigger** · 01-04-12 19:22

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

As for the home front, I have a laptop that I use that is separate from the house computer, and my SO has her own lap top that she uses. I make certain to always use the "private browsing" option when doing anything SB related, and always close everything down at the end. In addition, I have set my preferences in both browsers to erase everything upon closing. I have a paper-less, online statement only credit card that my SO is unaware of that I use for all SD-related billing, such as hotels, meds, SA subscriptions etc, and pay cash for everything else unless it is impossible to do so.

For contacting babies, I have a dedicated email account, with a "name" in the address that is play on my fake SA name, which I crafted based on a Whitepages search of names in my area. There is, in fact, some poor shmo who has the same name as I have taken, and is approximately my same age, but I'm guessing has not fucked as many babies as I have. I have set up a facebook page under that same name, with very little info on it, just in case the baby googles my SA name. I have a private photo on my profile that is permission-only access, and it is a picture I took myself in the mirror, so it can't be tin-eyed to anywhere else. Similarly, I have a photo I send from my email address that likewise appears no where else.

Not sure if it's helpful, but I took it one step further. I have a product called "Folder Lock". It hides a directory and all other kinds of fun stuff. I then installed Firefox on that directory. I use stealth mode, so I have to hit key strokes to bring up the software to open the directory. This allows me to keep all my bookmarks, etc.

BigTigg

**BigTigger** · 01-04-12 19:08

I've been pretty much sticking to my hot young Latina. But I've definitely kept up with the board. Great reading and it's good to see that we really try to help each other.

On the bank account thing.

I'm going to have my SB open an account in her name at a bank that I can easily deposit money into (She's in Md, I'm in Va). This will get her a debit card to pay for hotel rooms, etc. I do have my own private account for my personal spending, but this provides me another level of security since we are meeting on a frequent basis. I don't want that many hotel / hotwire account purchases showing up. .

Keep up the good work!

BigTigg

**F Scott** · 01-04-12 18:38

Originally Posted by Bigsqueeze [View Original Post]

When a bank ran my credit for my last home loan, every account tied to my name and social security number came up on the report without my having listed it.

Just saying'.

Gentlemen, thank you for such an interesting forum.

Are there different kinds of credit reports? Or different levels? Isn't there one single banker out there who reads this thread? Come on, dude, enlighten us.

Scott

**Spitfire** · 01-04-12 18:36

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

Gentlemen,

A little further information on the issue of a debit / checking account card showing up on your credit report: apparently it will not. I should have been clearer in the beginning that the card I use for baby activity is a debit card that is linked to a savings account that I opened without my SO's knowledge, and whose statement only appears on line.

This keeps it as UTR as such a thing can be, but it would be child's play, apparently, if leo or an attorney wanted to find it. Right now, thankfully, that is not a concern for me.

I assume, however, that a true credit card, no matter where the statements appear, would show up on a credit report.

Keep up the good work out there,

Scott

Try using a pre-paid card with at least 500 on it. Should be enough to cover a room.

**F Scott** · 01-04-12 18:36

Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]

wants a lunch meeting to determine chemistry. Damn! Back to school. Guess I got to break out my periodic table and brush up.

Welcome, Sub!

Very funny take on the all-important "chemistry". If you pursue this whole SB thing further, you will feel like you're back in school. It has been described more than once as the Fountain of Youth!

Good luck, and don't forget to write,

Scott

**SubCmdr** · 01-04-12 17:27

I've been following your thread. RTFF from the beginning so I could understand what was going on. After reviewing all of the material in the tread I realized that lo and behold I've unknowing been an SD in past relationships. LOL. What I like most about what I've read here is the methodical methods used to recruit, develop and retain the assets. In a word fascinating. So, much so I had to try it for myself.

SB1. Source CL M4W – 40, HWP Average looks, wants a lunch meeting to determine chemistry. Damn! Back to school. Guess I got to break out my periodic table and brush up.

**Bigsqueeze** · 01-04-12 16:43

When a bank ran my credit for my last home loan, every account tied to my name and social security number came up on the report without my having listed it.

Just saying'.

Gentlemen, thank you for such an interesting forum.

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

Gentlemen,

A little further information on the issue of a debit / checking account card showing up on your credit report: apparently it will not. I should have been clearer in the beginning that the card I use for baby activity is a debit card that is linked to a savings account that I opened without my SO's knowledge, and whose statement only appears on line.

This keeps it as UTR as such a thing can be, but it would be child's play, apparently, if leo or an attorney wanted to find it. Right now, thankfully, that is not a concern for me.

I assume, however, that a true credit card, no matter where the statements appear, would show up on a credit report.

Keep up the good work out there,

Scott

**F Scott** · 01-04-12 14:31

Gentlemen,

A little further information on the issue of a debit / checking account card showing up on your credit report: apparently it will not. I should have been clearer in the beginning that the card I use for baby activity is a debit card that is linked to a savings account that I opened without my SO's knowledge, and whose statement only appears on line.

This keeps it as UTR as such a thing can be, but it would be child's play, apparently, if leo or an attorney wanted to find it. Right now, thankfully, that is not a concern for me.

I assume, however, that a true credit card, no matter where the statements appear, would show up on a credit report.

Keep up the good work out there,

Scott

**Hernando** · 01-04-12 11:31

atDilemma

NSA at work? Won't happen. Proceed with great caution.

atFixinit " On her way out she asked if she could have some sugar." This is one of my pet peeves and typical of a Nando 1 .the desperada. If a SB asks for $$ then I put her in the escort category.or worse

atFscott Suicide? For sure Scotty. She presumably has your personal info and knows where to find you? Give this one a miss.

atCantwinlosin I have tasted this delicacy in my escort days and she is fine! She is (or at least was) 9's across the board Good luck!

**F Scott** · 01-04-12 11:24

Originally Posted by Literal2 [View Original Post]

Right.

You know the answer already. It would be foolish if you care about security. She'll be thinking about settling down with full size Scott about 30 seconds after she realizes it is you. She will never fuck you without consequence. She'll view the fucking as a forward progression in a pre-existing relationship.

But good luck and let us know what you do.

I know you are right, and I would never follow through with this, I think. But it was fun to daydream, which brings up an interesting phenomenon that I have been experiencing / indulging in recently; I'd like to see if any other brothers out there do the same.

This whole SB thing has caused me to look at HYBs in a different manner. Before I would ogle them discretely and think for a second or two how fun it would be to bang them. Now, as I have come to understand how broad the SB world is, I wonder to myself when I see an HYB if she might be on SA, and I could find her profile. It lends a greater sense of concreteness to my musings, making them a lot more fun. Not an earth-shattering observation, but more of an added perk kind of thing.

Keep up the good work,

Scott