"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**F Scott** · 11-17-11 20:27

Originally Posted by Golfcart [View Original Post]

Being a bachelor I am able to keep a diary of events with no difficulty. I find it alerts me to a trend taking shape before I would otherwise notice.

Golf,

This is a provocative and intriguing statement. Please expand. What trends do you notice, and then how do you respond?

Scott

**LuckyLou** · 11-17-11 15:27

Originally Posted by Fixinit [View Original Post]

I am not sure where this will end up but I am trying to enjoy it for what it is. She is young and has her life to enjoy, I am just 20 years her elder trying to enjoy what we have with each other.

Fix

Fix,

Both are legendary and mythical and I believe you have stumbled on both. Enjoy it and live for the moment. Much of what Golf Cart says is probably true but we all create our own realities to a certain degree so I prefer to take a more Zen view and accept whatever comes my way. Send a note every once and a while from the promised land to keep all of us other grunts on the front lines motivated and inspired.

LL

**Hernando** · 11-17-11 15:26

Welcome to the Sugar Board Fix. We look forward to your contributions.

Sounds like you stumbled into a Sugar Daddy situation without knowing it years ago. It sounds great for you and hopefully you can keep it going. She is dirt cheap in the sugar world so enjoy that. One word of advice, don't pay her more for longer sessions, like overnight. You don't want her to value herself by the hour. Although, it has been going on for two years so you must have honed this relationship pretty well.

**Golfcart** · 11-17-11 14:15

Fix, I'the say you have a first class SB on your hands.

Expect to be two-timed (just like she is being) , expect it to be happening right now, it goes with the territory, so take what you get for what it is, making it easier to keep your emotions in check, and don't sweat anything.

Have a good time for as long as it lasts, expecting that it will not, because it won't.

Being a bachelor I am able to keep a diary of events with no difficulty. I find it alerts me to a trend taking shape before I would otherwise notice.

Read all 50 pages of this board. You will see yourself in many of the situations. It will help you see around the corners.

**F Scott** · 11-17-11 12:31

Originally Posted by Smokarz_XO [View Original Post]

How do you hide your SA profile? I want to see if that generate any more hits for me.

You click in "my profile" and on the next screen you will see an option to hide it. Select that, and you're done. I think that when you unhide it, you show up as a new member again.

**Fixinit** · 11-17-11 12:24

I stumbled across this thread and it is good to hear others people experiences.

I am not sure if I would call my current situation a SB situation but I am enjoying it. I posted an ad on CL in the adult gigs section years ago and met her, she was 20 at the time. I would get a hotel and would see here every few months or so. She was a bit flaky but I enjoyed the time together and she was hot as hell. The first six or seven meetings were not full service just HE meetings which was fine with me. About six months ago she offered FS for more $ and I jumped at it. She is now 22 and attending school.

Now we get the occasional hotel, meet at my office and have met at my house a few times. We spend anywhere from one hour to two hours together or longer in the hotel. Our original deal was $1. 2 for once a week and. 8 for a second visit which was good when I saw her a few times a month. Now I have developed feelings for her (Not sure if she knows or even cares) and see her three to four times a week. I give her. 6 each visit and if she needs anything else I help her out. I have a significant other which makes this even more interesting. This weekend we are spending the first overnight meeting which will be fun.

I am not sure where this will end up but I am trying to enjoy it for what it is. She is young and has her life to enjoy, I am just 20 years her elder trying to enjoy what we have with each other.

Fix

**Member #5570** · 11-17-11 12:04

How do you hide your SA profile? I want to see if that generate any more hits for me.

**F Scott** · 11-17-11 11:30

Magic and Jersey,

I know what you are referring to in terms of the shill profiles on the site, but that is not the case in this instance. These are babies who have corresponded with me through my hobby email address, contacting me again there, not via the SA message center.

It is ironic, as I said, since I had really slacked off on my fishing as I got more and more involved with my ATF. I think the advice that nothing lasts forever is sound, and I may just keep a ball or two in the air just in case. It kind of feels like cheating though.

Keep up the good work. Jersey, I think we all might be interested to hear more about your diner waitress approach. That has to be as close to GFE as it gets.

Scott.

Originally Posted by Magic Rat [View Original Post]

Scott,

I think that is just SA's way of getting you to pony back up for the monthly fee. When I cancelled my profile, I too got tons of messages from SB's for awhile. It could be legit, but it sounds like coincidence to me.

**Fun Jersey** · 11-17-11 11:03

Originally Posted by Magic Rat [View Original Post]

Scott,

I think that is just SA's way of getting you to pony back up for the monthly fee. When I cancelled my profile, I too got tons of messages from SB's for awhile. It could be legit, but it sounds like coincidence to me.

What happens is this. When you cancel your membership you get top posted as if you were brand new. That tends to generate a lot more hits. Much like the babies, new guys get the most hits. I also think they have scam profiles on their as well to induce you back but that's just a theory.

SA is not a bad fishing ground but I have found the women on it, particularly in Philly / NYC (I live in Philly) tend to have huge expectations of allowances and are not as willing with time. My best success has ironically been waitresses at diners and lower end chains. They usually really need money and if you take time to build a bond and then broach the topic, they are much more willing and it is much more fun.

**Magic Rat** · 11-17-11 10:31

Scott,

I think that is just SA's way of getting you to pony back up for the monthly fee. When I cancelled my profile, I too got tons of messages from SB's for awhile. It could be legit, but it sounds like coincidence to me.

**Zingie** · 11-16-11 21:04

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

Gentlemen,

In an ironic turn of events, now that I have decided to hide my SA profile and concentrate exclusively on my ATF, I am being besieged with emails from babies that I had been communicating with, and either had not moved forward with or had landed, enjoyed, and moved on from.

What's up with that? On the one hand, I really don't want to see anybody else right now, but on the other hand when babies are knocking on my door of their own volition, what am I to do? I can't be rude and not let them in, can I?

Any thoughts or advice is appreciated.

Scott

It's perspective isn't it? You are the consumer so you have ability to say no, unless you really want to consume more. Saying no isn't rude. What's ruder is babies expecting and demanding. However, if you are implying things in your communication and leading the babies on, then I would say it is more than rude not to follow through, at least for one course.

**Hernando** · 11-16-11 18:41

Lucky boy!

If these Babies you have already been working with are just too tempted by your manly ways then you have to decide if you are going to be true to your ATF SO SB or try to work more than one. My sense is that you are pleased with your ATF and should put these on hold until your SD relationship falls apart. We all know when one disappears another one pops up, although it is hard to find that one special one like you and I currently have.

I told a few girls I was working up that I was now in a relationship and was out of circulation for a while. I know it would hurt my SB's feelings if she saw that I was still on the board. She could rightfully assume I was still patrolling. As soon as my profile came down hers did too. Tit for tat. I am totally happy (and broke) with my current Baby. I am keeping nothing back to play with others.

Since you have the ideal Baby don't take her for granted or get greedy my friend Nando

**CantWinLosin** · 11-16-11 18:27

Point me towards 'them.

**F Scott** · 11-16-11 15:45

Gentlemen,

In an ironic turn of events, now that I have decided to hide my SA profile and concentrate exclusively on my ATF, I am being besieged with emails from babies that I had been communicating with, and either had not moved forward with or had landed, enjoyed, and moved on from.

What's up with that? On the one hand, I really don't want to see anybody else right now, but on the other hand when babies are knocking on my door of their own volition, what am I to do? I can't be rude and not let them in, can I?

Any thoughts or advice is appreciated.

Scott

**F Scott** · 11-15-11 19:02

Gentlemen,

My understanding is that this has been looked at by LE more than once before, and the consensus was that it was just too difficult to prove a direct P4P situation. I know that with all the babies I have brought to the net, there is an ample email trail that talks about mutual interests, chemistry, meeting first just to chat, flirtatious interchanges and the like, along with a fair amount of time, in most cases, between initial meeting and hitting the sheets. In other words, just the sort of thing one would expect between two people who are feeling each other out as far as a relationship might go. Last time I looked, that's not a crime, even if one of you happens to be an old married letch. The ones that got my spidey sense tingling as being too close to a professional attitude, I simply walked away from.

I just can't imagine them spending all that time and effort to nail one poor middle-aged schmuck. The more likely scenario is that they try and shut down the sites, but even there, what good does it do them? Most likely is that they will set up fake profiles, both a baby and a daddy, and try and lure people into a more direct P4P conversation, as Cantwin suggested. Since providers have never been my scene, those babies that smelled too much like pros, or were all about the Bennies, I just stopped corresponding with. My guess is that they are after the working girls who have migrated from CL and BP to the various SD sites. When I browse BP in my area just for kicks, I see the same handful of girls posting over and over. On the other hand, there must be 20 new SB profiles every day. Common sense says that they can't all be amateurs.

All this is moot for me, as I am totally monogamous at the moment, and happily so. Took my baby grocery shopping this morning, then back to her place to put things away where they belong for a couple of hours. Totally happy, totally content. Other brothers that are still fishing in your respective pools, I think the advice to be more cautious than usual is well-said.

As with most of these things involving our men in blue, it will blow over eventually and things will return to normal. A very good friend of mine, who happens to be a fantastic criminal defense attorney, once had this to say about the police: "it's noting personal, they're just doing their jobs like the rest of us. It's just that some are better at it than others."

Keep up the good work,

Scott