"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Literal2]

ATF SB4 opened her pussy for me again today. God I love that girl, I mean I love her body. I think I sucked her clit for a half hour while she sucked my dick. SB9 and SB12 both sent emails today confirming they will fuck on schedule tomorrow and the next day.

[Spitfire]

After emailing this lady six weeks ago or so I called it quits because of her unreasonable demands. She was actually a no show at a get acquainted meet the day I got the flat tire driving back from SB4. A few days ago I got back in touch with her, how are you doing, etc. She wanted to meet, fewer demands. It was supposed to be in a hotel bar. She actually arrived early and came straight to the room.

She's at least 39, as she said. But she is in very good shape. Beautiful ta ta's (professionally enhanced). Silky long dark hair. Slim waist, nice heart shaped ass (though a bit soft). Stretch marks show her age (like the photo of Christie I posed in another thread, very similar in appearance) and she has some flexibility issues in her joints. She looks like Minnie Driver the actress, if you remember her: dark eyes, wide mouth. A first for me: she has a stud in her clit hood. I played with it until she came and fucked her several different ways. All good.

But here's an interesting thing. She said she hadn't had sex for a while though she's been trying. She told me one dude on the sb / sd site said he was 49, promised to send a limo to drive her to him, the limo didn't show, he called to say he had problems with his private jet. She googled his digits, the guy's facebook shows he's a college student.

She said another dude gave her a bank check, she went to cash it at a bank and the check was counterfeit. She nearly got arrested.

So I guess its not just girls who are unreliable on these sites.

I'm glad I was patient with this sb. The weekend has begun well and I have a new filly in the stable if I want her.

Glad it went well, sometimes patience pays off. My lack of patience gets worse as I get older LOL. Let us know how it goes with SB4 and SB9

[Literal2]

After emailing this lady six weeks ago or so I called it quits because of her unreasonable demands. She was actually a no show at a get acquainted meet the day I got the flat tire driving back from SB4. A few days ago I got back in touch with her, how are you doing, etc. She wanted to meet, fewer demands. It was supposed to be in a hotel bar. She actually arrived early and came straight to the room.

She's at least 39, as she said. But she is in very good shape. Beautiful ta ta's (professionally enhanced). Silky long dark hair. Slim waist, nice heart shaped ass (though a bit soft). Stretch marks show her age (like the photo of Christie I posed in another thread, very similar in appearance) and she has some flexibility issues in her joints. She looks like Minnie Driver the actress, if you remember her: dark eyes, wide mouth. A first for me: she has a stud in her clit hood. I played with it until she came and fucked her several different ways. All good.

But here's an interesting thing. She said she hadn't had sex for a while though she's been trying. She told me one dude on the sb / sd site said he was 49, promised to send a limo to drive her to him, the limo didn't show, he called to say he had problems with his private jet. She googled his digits, the guy's facebook shows he's a college student.

She said another dude gave her a bank check, she went to cash it at a bank and the check was counterfeit. She nearly got arrested.

So I guess its not just girls who are unreliable on these sites.

I'm glad I was patient with this sb. The weekend has begun well and I have a new filly in the stable if I want her.

[Spitfire]

Exchanged texts yesterday with a 30yr-old from Newport News from the site (seriously hot petite blonde with major ta-tas. I suspect she's a pro or semi-pro) and set up an initial meet for tonight at a restaurant she knew. Thought we had a firm appointment, and had to be there anyway, so headed there at the appointed time. About 10 minutes before the appointed time, I got a text that she hadn't heard from me. Since I was driving I couldn't respond immediately, but when I got to a light about 10 minutes later I responded that was on my way and would be there in a minute. We were meeting at a place I'd never been before, and when I got to the address (a major intersection with stripmalls on all sides) I circled thru all the malls and couldn't find the place she had named, so I texted that I couldn't find the place and please call or text details. No response, so I called and got voicemail, left a msg, and waited. After about 10 minutes, I texted again. 20 minutes later, I got "I didn't here (sic) From you so I didn't know to meet you". Shit. So I txted no problem, sorry for the confusion, I thought we had confirmed last night, did you still want to meet or re-schedule? After another 10 minutes and not hearing anything, I headed home. An hour and a half later, still no response.

So much for her.

It's aggravating to weed through the flakes, time wasters and the 'do I really want to do this' types. I always try to call or text the day before and then follow up before I hit the road to confirm since I have to travel to most of the women I meet. It's not an easy road, but every once in a while there's a reward at the end.

[CantWinLosin]

Exchanged texts yesterday with a 30yr-old from Newport News from the site (seriously hot petite blonde with major ta-tas. I suspect she's a pro or semi-pro) and set up an initial meet for tonight at a restaurant she knew. Thought we had a firm appointment, and had to be there anyway, so headed there at the appointed time. About 10 minutes before the appointed time, I got a text that she hadn't heard from me. Since I was driving I couldn't respond immediately, but when I got to a light about 10 minutes later I responded that was on my way and would be there in a minute. We were meeting at a place I'd never been before, and when I got to the address (a major intersection with stripmalls on all sides) I circled thru all the malls and couldn't find the place she had named, so I texted that I couldn't find the place and please call or text details. No response, so I called and got voicemail, left a msg, and waited. After about 10 minutes, I texted again. 20 minutes later, I got "I didn't here (sic) From you so I didn't know to meet you". Shit. So I txted no problem, sorry for the confusion, I thought we had confirmed last night, did you still want to meet or re-schedule? After another 10 minutes and not hearing anything, I headed home. An hour and a half later, still no response.

So much for her.

[Literal2]

I'm curious how you handle it on a first meeting when a potential SB doesn't look like her photos? Do you simply say "we're not a good fit" and walk away or do you continue to see if she might have other redeeming features?

Unfortunately Mr Johnson has more to say about this than I do. I've met with lots of escorts who don't look like their photos and Johnson usually proceeds anyway. Not all the time. I've sent some away before he could get involved.

With sb's it's only happened twice. A few months ago, back to back heavy girls. I fucked one of them and she was actually pretty good, very passionate, shy, all the psychological stuff I really like. Her body was big but it was firm, which made a difference. I walked out on the other without fucking her but I took some pix so I gave her sugar for those. Actually, Mr Johnson was beginning to get involved when a bunch of workmen showed up banging on the girl's door so I got out just in time. Since then I've been more careful about photos.

If sb12 doesn't look like her photos, or has aged a lot, or is much heavier, I'd like to say I'll walk out. But it will depend on what Johnson wants to do I guess.

Sounds like you have good discipline, Spit. I wish mine were better.

[Spitfire]

SB12 is on deck for today. She says she is recently divorced with two kids. Claims to 39, and an artist or something. Says she only wants to have one SD. Her pix show a pretty dark haired woman with a nice body. I wonder how old they are. Anyway, I have a room and we will meet first at the bar nearby. She wants more than one session so she has committed to a second session Sunday. Originally she wanted too much commitment and too much allowance, paid monthly in advance. Her pitch was,"I'll see you each month as many times as you like." I told her no commitment and installments on the allowance which will only occur after I penetrate her vagina. If I have a problem with her later I don't think it will be with penetration, but with clinging.

Tomorrow it's back to my atf sb 27-year old sb4 for what will be the last time. She has the best ass. I will try to get a pic and post it. She really squirms around and moans loudly before she cums. I like that.

Saturday it's sb9 again, my elegantly dressed amateur artist / student / receptionist. Tall and curvy she will have a weight problem later if she doesn't watch the booze. She says she's 27 but I think probably 30 or so. She loves to have something in her mouth when she cums, like my dick or my tongue. During the build-up she doesn't squirm at all, her body just gets more and more rigid until she gasps quietly and releases. I like that too.

So I think it should be an active weekend coming up with about four pops in three girls.

I know, multiple pops are supposed to be in one session. I can't do that anymore.

I'm curious how you handle it on a first meeting when a potential SB doesn't look like her photos? Do you simply say "we're not a good fit" and walk away or do you continue to see if she might have other redeeming features? It depends for me, but the one time I continued after 'bad' photos I regretted it. I met a potential SB 3 weekends ago. Her pictures were probably 10 years old and she hadn't aged well. We sat and chatted a while. She asked if I wanted to continue and I wished her luck, told her I didn't think we could work, left her a small amount of sugar and left.

Why will it be your last time with SB4? Feel free to send her my way LOL.

SB9 sounds like fun too.

Good luck with your weekend! I've got 2 girls lined up myself, but of course, both require travel and they're in opposite directions. Both of them are college students. I've met one of them before and I'm breaking my own rule about not seeing her again since there was nothing more than dinner the first time.

[Literal2]

SB12 is on deck for today. She says she is recently divorced with two kids. Claims to 39, and an artist or something. Says she only wants to have one SD. Her pix show a pretty dark haired woman with a nice body. I wonder how old they are. Anyway, I have a room and we will meet first at the bar nearby. She wants more than one session so she has committed to a second session Sunday. Originally she wanted too much commitment and too much allowance, paid monthly in advance. Her pitch was,"I'll see you each month as many times as you like." I told her no commitment and installments on the allowance which will only occur after I penetrate her vagina. If I have a problem with her later I don't think it will be with penetration, but with clinging.

Tomorrow it's back to my atf sb 27-year old sb4 for what will be the last time. She has the best ass. I will try to get a pic and post it. She really squirms around and moans loudly before she cums. I like that.

Saturday it's sb9 again, my elegantly dressed amateur artist / student / receptionist. Tall and curvy she will have a weight problem later if she doesn't watch the booze. She says she's 27 but I think probably 30 or so. She loves to have something in her mouth when she cums, like my dick or my tongue. During the build-up she doesn't squirm at all, her body just gets more and more rigid until she gasps quietly and releases. I like that too.

So I think it should be an active weekend coming up with about four pops in three girls.

I know, multiple pops are supposed to be in one session. I can't do that anymore.

[Coolhand2]

Everything she said could still be true. I know of one escort in my area who used the SD / SB approach to ease her way out of the 'business' but still have a way to support herself while getting her act together. But it's always good to investigate, it's interesting to see what can turn up.

I agree that it can be used as a way to transition out of the escort life and I actually thought of that as a possibility. I may have overreacted a bit because I found the BP ad after just hearing this tearful conversation about having to meet to make sure our "chemistry" was right. As I stated, if her pics were accurate, she was worth seeing as an escort. I'll give it some more thought and decide if I respond to the BP ad or the SB profile. Thanks for giving me another perspective. I love this forum!

[Coolhand2]

Cool, I joined a site suggarbabbies4you, but could do much they wanted me to join to view any profile. What is your recommendation. I know I got to pay to be in the game, but I do want to join a good site and not just any site.

New starting out on this sugarbabies thing. Any info is appreciated to get me started.

I joined the SugarDaddyforme site based on the information supplied by Literal2. I'm like you in that I was not prepared to join a number of sites so the only one I've joined is the SugarDaddy site. If you've read my post you know I'm not interested in a lot of wining and dining but want to get right to the heart of the matter. Since I don't live in Richmond I try not to have wasted trips. I had some success early but have kind of hit a dry spell. I have three I'm currently communicating with and hope to meet up with one of them next week.

Literal has posted some very good posts on how you can expect it to work. I have tried to give a honest assessment of my experiences on this forum but you'll see that the general consensus is it that it takes work. Only you can judge is the work worth it for you. For me the jury is still out but I'm still hanging in there. Good luck no matter which way you go.

[Spitfire]

Things have been sort of quiet on the SB front but I have something I wanted to pass on. It's been mentioned how you really have to work at sorting through the SB's. Here's an example. I had been messaging back and forth with what seemed to be a very interesting prospect. Mid 20's. 5'7, and a nice body based on her pics. She gave me her number and asked me to call. In our conversation she proceeds to tell me about her recent divorce and she's only on the site because she needs financial help with her 5 year old son. She wants to have a dinner meeting so we can see if we will hit it off. After the call I decided to google the phone number and what should turn up; a BP ad. Not only a BP ad but the ad used the same pictures as she used on the SB site. Hell, she looked good enough that with a couple of good reviews I would have seen her as an escort. It's not only the men who misrepresent themselves on the SB / SD site.

Everything she said could still be true. I know of one escort in my area who used the SD / SB approach to ease her way out of the 'business' but still have a way to support herself while getting her act together. But it's always good to investigate, it's interesting to see what can turn up.

[Richmond Mas]

Things have been sort of quiet on the SB front but I have something I wanted to pass on. It's been mentioned how you really have to work at sorting through the SB's. Here's an example. I had been messaging back and forth with what seemed to be a very interesting prospect. Mid 20's. 5'7, and a nice body based on her pics. She gave me her number and asked me to call. In our conversation she proceeds to tell me about her recent divorce and she's only on the site because she needs financial help with her 5 year old son. She wants to have a dinner meeting so we can see if we will hit it off. After the call I decided to google the phone number and what should turn up; a BP ad. Not only a BP ad but the ad used the same pictures as she used on the SB site. Hell, she looked good enough that with a couple of good reviews I would have seen her as an escort. It's not only the men who misrepresent themselves on the SB / SD site.

Cool, I joined a site suggarbabbies4you, but could do much they wanted me to join to view any profile. What is your recommendation. I know I got to pay to be in the game, but I do want to join a good site and not just any site.

New starting out on this sugarbabies thing. Any info is appreciated to get me started.

[Literal2]

CH, I personally would rather have a SB=fresh pussy than a BP pro. I was looking at the SB site and found that you have to invest a lot of time in these things. With an escort you call pay and bang that's it. With the sugar babies, one have to wine and dine these babies. I don't really know. I am big, fat and not the best looking guy around may be even boring. What is the chance that a real SB would pick me?

With Escort Benjamen does the trick. I might give it a try. I had several mails, but don't know enough to deal.

I agree CH's information is good to have. There are all kinds of girls on these sites.

RM, for sure it is more certain if you book a pro.

You say you are big and fat and how likely is it an sb will pick you. I don't know. The sb site lists over 600 girls within 25 miles of Richmond whose profile says they are ample, cuddly or very cuddly. Also, many of the girls who describe themselves as average are really overweight. So you could target heavy girls as one option. Another thing is that dating sbs is not like a regular date with wining and dining at least I haven't done it that way. Sometimes the girl wants to see you somewhere other than alone before she agrees to see you alone but that doesn't have to be wine and dine. It could be coffee at Burger King or even a parking lot. Or meet at a bar for a drink. I don't take them out on a date for a discussion. If they want I meet them briefly some place public so they can see what I look like but they understand that if they don't walk away we are going to go to a room to be alone and get it on.

A big difference with regular dating is that you both know the girl wants sugar and you both understand you aren't Prince Charming. Sex is a matter of whether she can stand you, not a matter of whether she would pick you out of a crowd.

So I don't think you have to be negative about the way you think you look etc. There's never any harm in trying. You might get lucky. With thousands of girls to choose from you probably will get lucky. If you want to improve the odds, target the heavy girls and see what happens. Or if you don't like the game with sbs and you want a more sure thing, go for the pros.

Just my views. No offense intended to anyone with different views.

[Richmond Mas]

She wants to have a dinner meeting so we can see if we will hit it off. After the call I decided to google the phone number and what should turn up; a BP ad. Not only a BP ad but the ad used the same pictures as she used on the SB site. Hell, she looked good enough that with a couple of good reviews I would have seen her as an escort. It's not only the men who misrepresent themselves on the SB / SD site.

CH, I personally would rather have a SB=fresh pussy than a BP pro. I was looking at the SB site and found that you have to invest a lot of time in these things. With an escort you call pay and bang that's it. With the sugar babies, one have to wine and dine these babies. I don't really know. I am big, fat and not the best looking guy around may be even boring. What is the chance that a real SB would pick me?

With Escort Benjamen does the trick. I might give it a try. I had several mails, but don't know enough to deal.

[Literal2]

Cool, I know there are some pros on the sb sites. But hey, if the girl is hot, you may want to fuck her just for sport.

I'm having trouble with the damn sb numbers. I think the following are the right sb numbers.

I'm getting some more blue fuel Monday and the warden is going to be away for a few days next week. I immediatey lined up my keeper beauty sb utrs sb4 and sb9 for consecutive days. I know these two will open their giners, ooze girlcum, invite my penetration, thrust their lttle clits out and squrim and moan before cumming hard to try to acquire my semen. That can be satsifying. But this will be 4th time for sb4 and 3rd time for sb9 so for me the anticipation isn't there.

However, I re-contacted a woman outside the age group I like (23-29) who previously wanted commitment plus a ridiculous amount of allowance. She says she is 39 but looks younger and her pix are hot. I think she may ready for penetration now. I'll call her sb12. I've scheduled her the day before the other two. We haven't discussed allowance.

I'm excited to be closing in on fresh pussy with backups in case of misfire.

Meanwhile I sent sb11 a little sugar just to keep her interested. She's 21 she says and I can't get to her for another few weeks. I wasn't going to do this because sb3 never met me after I gave her some sugar, but guess what? Sb3 is back on my radar and we are sending sexy emails. She clearly wants more sugar, and I clearly want penetration. No agreement yet. A perfect match? We shall see what happens when I next try to see her which will be next month.