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StanleyStankas
02-12-17, 10:42
Well said. I've told Mei that when we get married we would sell the business and travel the world. Now, I'm a part time electrician, plumber, accountant, salesman, lawyer, webmaster, cleaning guy, etc.Been there done that! Now I am trying to get out to las vegas buy a little place, monger on occasion and watch the tourist spend money! Also being a landlord in a high end downtown area like I have been for the last 2 years (owned for 10) sucks! I don't own a place in the west loop it owns me! Stress? Yep they are called tenants! The more they pay the more they want! Down there one is not a landlord in as much as a concierge! That place is the next to be kicked to the curb! Let's see. Business gone? Check condo gone? Check last drunk crazy hot gf gone? Yep check. Long ago! Ok time to live again!

DMichaels69
02-12-17, 10:57
Bob, when are you and Mei getting married?


Well said. I've told Mei that when we get married we would sell the business and travel the world. Now, I'm a part time electrician, plumber, accountant, salesman, lawyer, webmaster, cleaning guy, etc.

DMichaels69
02-12-17, 10:58
Don't you just love people? Customers? Tenants? They are wonderful. LOL.


Been there done that! Now I am trying to get out to las vegas buy a little place, monger on occasion and watch the tourist spend money! Also being a landlord in a high end downtown area like I have been for the last 2 years (owned for 10) sucks! I don't own a place in the west loop it owns me! Stress? Yep they are called tenants! The more they pay the more they want! Down there one is not a landlord in as much as a concierge! That place is the next to be kicked to the curb! Let's see. Business gone? Check condo gone? Check last drunk crazy hot gf gone? Yep check. Long ago! Ok time to live again!

E2304
02-12-17, 11:48
How much did you spend with Cici for house fee and tip? I've been seeing Kendy at their other location off Chicago Ave in Oak Park. Really nice Asian will the perfect rack. Usually adds a prostate touch to the finish. I got her number and visited her home as well. Trying for more than just a stand finish but nothing yet. Might go back to her place again to seal the deal. Last time she double booked me and I went anyway so she can take care of me in the bathroom. Just gave her. 25 so it was a steal. I hope the guy on the table didn't mind waiting for a few more minutes.

http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/thp/5946512876.htmlThis post about kendy caught my eye. Looking at RM and BP I found angel Spa on Chicago alhough Cici works out of King on North. I called Chicago Ave shop. Man at Roosevelt place answered saying Chicago site closed that day but other girl "good. " I did not Persue. I'm a bit confused.

Please post or PM info or reviews. Prior post mentions a cell number for MT For off site. I will post in return any experience obtained.

Bob521
02-12-17, 12:31
I PM'd a long answer. But will sort of repeat it here. First, it is entirely up to you. Many customers have limited income, and should never feel they are obligated to pay any certain amount. For an hour, probably $20 - $30 is most typical. (give or take $10). A customer that comes every other week and tips $10 is a very valued customer and much better than someone who tips $40 but only comes once every six months. In my case, I used to add to the tip when somebody would go over the stated massage time. So ten minutes over is probably worth $5-$10 added to the tip. A 90 minute massage is proportionately higher.


What does Mei consider a fair appreciation for her services? (Ballpark).

Bob521
02-12-17, 13:35
The answer is complicated, since I'm married already. L does not want me to hurt the American wife. In 2 years, American wife will retire and wants to move to California. So that's the biggest fork in the road for us. I really do want to marry her. We decided to make the decision in the next year or two. L calls me "Husband" and I call her "Wife". She says her parents call me "American" because "Bob" sounds too much like "Baba" (which means father in Chinese). "Robert" sounds like "radish in Chinese. So she says the family will call me "Meguren" which means "American". For Chinese New Year, we were video chatting with her family, and some cousins. She called me "Zhangfu" (husband) and it caused quite a commotion. Cousins wishing her well. Her parents know we are not married, but the cousins now think we are! Oh what a tangled web!


Bob, when are you and Mei getting married?

StanleyStankas
02-12-17, 14:08
The answer is complicated, since I'm married already. L does not want me to hurt the American wife. In 2 years, American wife will retire and wants to move to California. So that's the biggest fork in the road for us. I really do want to marry her. We decided to make the decision in the next year or two. L calls me "Husband" and I call her "Wife". She says her parents call me "American" because "Bob" sounds too much like "Baba" (which means father in Chinese). "Robert" sounds like "radish in Chinese. So she says the family will call me "Meguren" which means "American". For Chinese New Year, we were video chatting with her family, and some cousins. She called me "Zhangfu" (husband) and it caused quite a commotion. Cousins wishing her well. Her parents know we are not married, but the cousins now think we are! Oh what a tangled web!She's in good hands with you because you are not a rush st. Bullshit*er! Most dudes talk a great show and few deliver. Much happiness no matter what!

StanleyStankas
02-12-17, 14:11
Don't you just love people? Customers? Tenants? They are wonderful. LOL.I am the greatest guy in the world as long as I am doing everything their way every time! I don't even try to do it my way, however sometimes offer just a fair way to handle things! Nope, again I am an a**h**e when it's not their way or the highway!

RubaDub1969
02-13-17, 14:37
Ok first post. First review. First time at an AMP.

Dreamed about Relax (south location) and saw Jessie, who also greeted me at the door. Older woman, I am terrible with ages but I will guess around 40. I loved her curves, face shows some age and is nothing special. Paid. 65 for the house and another. 6 for HE. I know it was too much but I was a little nervous with it being my first time.

Did some OTC roaming and some UTC under her top when I undid the bra. Nice nipples that were hard. Ending was a little mechanical I guess but I don't have any other AMP experiences to compare it to. She cleaned me up after and gave me some water. I was satisfied enough and will probably repeat.

On the way out I saw another girl there, didn't get her name but maybe that was Kelly that was referenced in an earlier post. Younger, kinda plain but also pretty at the same time. She was wearing a short black dress with flowers. Had wavy black hair. I would like to try her next time if possible.

RickMann
02-14-17, 09:52
Sounds like you are working on the green card?Anyone moderating this?

DMichaels69
02-14-17, 10:36
You don't need to be concerned with that. The question was answered by the original poster who did not have a problem with the question.


Anyone moderating this?

RegionRat2
02-14-17, 15:26
I was in Kankakee area for a job and stopped by Sunny Massage off of Rt 50 in Bourbonnais. Older Massage ladies. I had Sophee or Sophia couldn't understand totally. Paid the $70 for an hour actually gave $80 and Sophee said she forgot the $10 change which made me a little mad but didn't say anything to her. Massage lasted a total of 40 minutes. No teasing during the massage and the massage was not good. On the flip, got a HJ and tipped $40. She let me roam and lifted up her bra and sucked on her tits. I won't go back as I felt ripped off. Many other places to go.

Elpatron
02-14-17, 21:22
Kelly is the better one of the three, the other lady her name is Jessica, but I recommended kelly been there like 3 times


Ok first post. First review. First time at an AMP.

Dreamed about Relax (south location) and saw Jessie, who also greeted me at the door. Older woman, I am terrible with ages but I will guess around 40. I loved her curves, face shows some age and is nothing special. Paid. 65 for the house and another. 6 for HE. I know it was too much but I was a little nervous with it being my first time.

Did some OTC roaming and some UTC under her top when I undid the bra. Nice nipples that were hard. Ending was a little mechanical I guess but I don't have any other AMP experiences to compare it to. She cleaned me up after and gave me some water. I was satisfied enough and will probably repeat.

On the way out I saw another girl there, didn't get her name but maybe that was Kelly that was referenced in an earlier post. Younger, kinda plain but also pretty at the same time. She was wearing a short black dress with flowers. Had wavy black hair. I would like to try her next time if possible..

Tbm335
02-15-17, 12:29
Thanks, Bob521, for your guidance on the "legit" protocol. But it got me questioning how I proceed at "other" locations, especially now.

I've been away from AMPs for a while but thinking about getting back after trying a few other things (mostly BP and TER indie recs, including a few other parlors like LTs). To give you an idea, first experience was an amazing visit at Senina. Boy that place was fantastic, sorry to see it's gone!

So, here's what I used to do, with varying results but mostly at least partial success:

Walk in and pay mama.

Get to the room and take it all off before the girl returns so as not to leave any LEO questions (at least in my head).

TS, return, take off towel and lie down.

Enjoy the tease, light roam, ask if that's ok, yada yada yada.

Negotiate on the flip.

I trust that's still how we do things around here?

Wonder how pricing's changed, too, but one thing at a time. First post, plus you trailblazers have left plenty of good info to read. Thank you all for that.

Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks why'all!

BonerLander
02-15-17, 15:36
This one has been advertising on Craigslist lately. Another user scoped out it, but passed. I went at lunch time, called the papason and told him I was on the way. The place is in a mini alley. I walk in and look up to see a 45-55 year old woman telling me which stairs to take. The place is not really a spa but an office space with some fake walls put up. The MT, Coco, is probably 4'11,95# and has some years on her but good looking for her age. The walls to the massage "room" don't go all the way to the top and no lock on the door. I got naked and received an OK massage. No action on the flip. I got the impression that maybe on repeat the maybe more but I won't be going back. Incomplete walls and no locks is just a bad situation even if extras were readily available. Look elsewhere.

Booey230
02-15-17, 19:11
So today I was going to try out an apartment service, however my happy ass didn't follow directions correctly and ended up in a massage parlor.

The massage was alright nothing to write home about and was taken care of by an older, but decent looking, Asian woman. She flipped me over and gave junior a tug. She cleaned me up and that was that. Damage was. 60 plus tip.

Now here's where I fucked up. As I said I was going to an apartment but got a bit lost and saw the spa, I thought oh this must be the place and rang the doorbell next to the parlor. Well I may have stumbled onto a little underground casino! There were tables everywhere with dice, almost like poker tables. Anyways the older asian guys where speaking Chinese and I'm like I'm looking for the girl I was texting. They didn't understand me so they took me next door to the massage parlor and got taken care of.

Afterwards when I got to my vehicle I got a text from the apartment girl with a photo of the building and go figure I was parked across the street from it! FML! So next time ill know where to go.

Anyways massage place is over on canal by connies pizza.

E6671
02-15-17, 21:30
So today I was going to try out an apartment service, however my happy ass didn't follow directions correctly and ended up in a massage parlor.

The massage was alright nothing to write home about and was taken care of by an older, but decent looking, Asian woman. She flipped me over and gave junior a tug. She cleaned me up and that was that. Damage was. 60 plus tip.

Now here's where I fucked up. As I said I was going to an apartment but got a bit lost and saw the spa, I thought oh this must be the place and rang the doorbell next to the parlor. Well I may have stumbled onto a little underground casino! There were tables everywhere with dice, almost like poker tables. Anyways the older asian guys where speaking Chinese and I'm like I'm looking for the girl I was texting. They didn't understand me so they took me next door to the massage parlor and got taken care of.

Afterwards when I got to my vehicle I got a text from the apartment girl with a photo of the building and go figure I was parked across the street from it! FML! So next time ill know where to go.

Anyways massage place is over on canal by connies pizza.Was it dice or tiles like Domino's? Mahjong is a very popular game played by Chinese. It has tiles that are similar to domino's and is played on a table about 30" square. Most Mahjong parlors in China have automatic shuffling tables. They are pretty cool. A friend of mine near Shanghai sent me one for Christmas. I got hooked three years ago when a different friend took me to a parlor one evening.

Anyway, I know of two Spa's on Canal near Connies. Moon and Unwind. Do you remember if it was at 23rd Pl or 24th St? Did you end up stopping in the apartment?

Elpatron
02-15-17, 22:38
I was just there well not really the place you mentioned, but I have make an appointment for a Nuru massage the address is 24** s Canal on the third floor, I was charge. 160 for the hour saw a Young Chinese girl very young in her late 20's Nuru was just she rubbing her tits on my body thank everything else was included probably will not repeat


Was it dice or tiles like Domino's? Mahjong is a very popular game played by Chinese. It has tiles that are similar to domino's and is played on a table about 30" square. Most Mahjong parlors in China have automatic shuffling tables. They are pretty cool. A friend of mine near Shanghai sent me one for Christmas. I got hooked three years ago when a different friend took me to a parlor one evening.

Anyway, I know of two Spa's on Canal near Connies. Moon and Unwind. Do you remember if it was at 23rd Pl or 24th St? Did you end up stopping in the apartment?.

Booey230
02-15-17, 23:12
Was it dice or tiles like Domino's? Mahjong is a very popular game played by Chinese. It has tiles that are similar to domino's and is played on a table about 30" square. Most Mahjong parlors in China have automatic shuffling tables. They are pretty cool. A friend of mine near Shanghai sent me one for Christmas. I got hooked three years ago when a different friend took me to a parlor one evening.

Anyway, I know of two Spa's on Canal near Connies. Moon and Unwind. Do you remember if it was at 23rd Pl or 24th St? Did you end up stopping in the apartment?The table was green and in the middle there was a pair of dice underneath a piece of clear plastic. I couldn't tell if it was automatic or not, still I was confused as fuck wondering if I was at the right place or not. A smoking hot babe came in and I was hoping that I would get some time with her, but that obviously didn't happen. Just did a quick look through Google maps, the place is called unwind spa on 24th street.

Unfortunately I didn't have enough time to take a look at the apartment, next time.

Booey230
02-15-17, 23:17
I was just there well not really the place you mentioned, but I have make an appointment for a Nuru massage the address is 24** s Canal on the third floor, I was charge. 160 for the hour saw a Young Chinese girl very young in her late 20's Nuru was just she rubbing her tits on my body thank everything else was included probably will not repeat

.That's the spot! ! For me it's something to cross off the bucket list; always wanted to get it on with an Asian chick and seeing as there's not much down by Midway, not that I know of at least, I wanted to check this place out.

RubaDub1969
02-16-17, 01:26
Was it dice or tiles like Domino's? Mahjong is a very popular game played by Chinese. It has tiles that are similar to domino's and is played on a table about 30" square. Most Mahjong parlors in China have automatic shuffling tables. They are pretty cool. A friend of mine near Shanghai sent me one for Christmas. I got hooked three years ago when a different friend took me to a parlor one evening.

Anyway, I know of two Spa's on Canal near Connies. Moon and Unwind. Do you remember if it was at 23rd Pl or 24th St? Did you end up stopping in the apartment?When I google Moon spa I find two addresses. One on 23rd an one around the corner on canal. Same place? Or two locations around the corner from each other?

Mothman5150
02-16-17, 10:12
After a trip to a massage parlor yesterday I had 3 friend suggestions pop up on Facebook of girls who work there. I didn't call or give anyone my number. Paid cash, phone was with me at all times, and my location services were turned off. How the hell does Facebook link me with this place!? Is Facebook linking you with people that you are just around?

Mothman5150
02-16-17, 10:37
After a trip to a massage parlor yesterday I had 3 friend suggestions pop up on Facebook of girls who work there. I didn't call or give anyone my number. Paid cash, phone was with me at all times, and my location services were turned off. How the hell does Facebook link me with this place!? Is Facebook linking you with people that you are just around?

ReadyForRub
02-16-17, 16:58
Thanks, Bob521, for your guidance on the "legit" protocol. But it got me questioning how I proceed at "other" locations, especially now.

I've been away from AMPs for a while but thinking about getting back after trying a few other things (mostly BP and TER indie recs, including a few other parlors like LTs). To give you an idea, first experience was an amazing visit at Senina. Boy that place was fantastic, sorry to see it's gone!

So, here's what I used to do, with varying results but mostly at least partial success:

Walk in and pay mama.

Get to the room and take it all off before the girl returns so as not to leave any LEO questions (at least in my head).

TS, return, take off towel and lie down.

Enjoy the tease, light roam, ask if that's ok, yada yada yada.

Negotiate on the flip.

I trust that's still how we do things around here?

Wonder how pricing's changed, too, but one thing at a time. First post, plus you trailblazers have left plenty of good info to read. Thank you all for that.

Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks why'all!In all situations let HER start the negotiations. Never initiate any money talks. Simply inform what you like to do.

Starks
02-16-17, 21:32
I looking to take my first trip to Macau Spa either Saturday, Sunday or Monday. Which is the best day to go and a good time to go?

E2304
02-16-17, 22:48
After a trip to a massage parlor yesterday I had 3 friend suggestions pop up on Facebook of girls who work there. I didn't call or give anyone my number. Paid cash, phone was with me at all times, and my location services were turned off. How the hell does Facebook link me with this place!? Is Facebook linking you with people that you are just around?That is pretty spooky. Are you Droid or iOS? Apple lets you restrict app permissions better. Did you use GPS? When did you turn off location service? Does Facebook have access to GPS? I use private browser settings and VPN when looking up on internet. Are you Facebook friends with other mongers. Post your findings.

You can wrap phone in foil before Mongering and use map or old standalone GPS in future.

JesusLovesMe
02-16-17, 23:44
After a trip to a massage parlor yesterday I had 3 friend suggestions pop up on Facebook of girls who work there. I didn't call or give anyone my number. Paid cash, phone was with me at all times, and my location services were turned off. How the hell does Facebook link me with this place!? Is Facebook linking you with people that you are just around?Do you have Facebook messenger on your phone? There have been reports that fb messenger tracks locations and even listens in on conversations / noise.

E2304
02-16-17, 23:57
Do you have Facebook messenger on your phone? There have been reports that fb messenger tracks locations and even listens in on conversations / noise.IPhone and droid? Link to source of info please. Sounds plausible.

Hrodebert
02-17-17, 03:10
Accesses your contacts on your phone, both the regular app, and messenger. 1984 is here, gents. Just read a EULA sometime. With Windows 10, you surrender everything on your computer to big brother Microsoft. It's in the EULA. They all do it.


Do you have Facebook messenger on your phone? There have been reports that fb messenger tracks locations and even listens in on conversations / noise.

TheWoodButcher
02-17-17, 07:39
Anyone been to see these ladies recently? Haven't been in years, but always had a fantastic time when I did partake.

Magooski
02-17-17, 13:24
I looking to take my first trip to Macau Spa either Saturday, Sunday or Monday. Which is the best day to go and a good time to go?If you call first they should let you know. I've never left unhappy. But don't expect to see hot sexy spinner types! But I've liked all of the ladies encounters there!

Tbm335
02-17-17, 14:34
In all situations let HER start the negotiations. Never initiate any money talks. Simply inform what you like to do.Yep, got that. Sounds like not much has changed, and my luck hadn't been too bad before, so I must've been on the right track. Thanks!

Walker333
02-17-17, 18:38
If you call first they should let you know. I've never left unhappy. But don't expect to see hot sexy spinner types! But I've liked all of the ladies encounters there!Yes, they seems to be nice, but 2 of them are definitely old and NOT good looking. One, I think her name is Cici, is younger, but wilth all tree of them. It's YMMV. In any case, the actual massage (BTW I think it's their strongest side) is OK.

E2304
02-17-17, 18:43
I stopped by the often maligned establishment near the lake. I was curious what the place it really was. I called ahead and they said to stop by. MMS was friendly smartly dressed for work. She looked mid 30's to me and was fairly attractive with classic Asian figure. Price list had deep tissue for $70 which I selected. On the way to the back room I passed one or two Younger women. Hey smiling homely girl was doing laundry.

My room had no towel so I made myself comfortable and assumed the position. When the therapist, MMS entered the room she noticed the missing towel and went to get one without a hint of embarrassment. The massage was quite good deep tissue which surprised me. I wasn't expecting much and so I didn't tell her to take it easy on my low back. There was gentle teasing. There was subtle and somewhat artful transition. No haggling or discussion. After an encouraging gesture from me she kept the troops happy while firing the machine gun. After clean up she completed the massage nicely and I got my full hour.

The phone was ringing a lot and they were busy. I found her name is Ewa and is Chinese. I said bye to Chinese words and she was appreciative. No haggling and just a brief glance at the tip I put on the table. In my assessment she has proper massage training. I recognized multiple techniques all fairly well done.

Total damage 130. I would repeat.

Walker333
02-17-17, 18:45
If you call first they should let you know. I've never left unhappy. But don't expect to see hot sexy spinner types! But I've liked all of the ladies encounters there!Yes, they seems to be nice, but 2 of them are definitely old and NOT good looking. One, I think her name is Cici, is younger, but wilth all tree of them. It's YMMV. In any case, the actual massage (BTW I think it's their strongest side) is OK.

BonerLander
02-17-17, 20:00
I looking to take my first trip to Macau Spa either Saturday, Sunday or Monday. Which is the best day to go and a good time to go?I go there during the week at lunch and have been taken care of just walking in.

E2304
02-17-17, 20:11
I am looking for an MP where I can get a good massage and a HE where the MT seems to take pride or joy in that work. I am looking to see if I can be left weak-kneed and speechless. I don't want it to be like she's pumping up a super soaker once she gets the soldier to salute. This is not a race. I will get there. L1 or L2 is fine; Whatever the practitioner takes more pride in. Time isn't an issue, 60 or 90 minutes. Under $$. I am not looking for FS or a narrative. I thought that the shop on Oakton would be that but my first experience did not live up to the hype. Is it a place, a person or something to say or do? Or is it a pipe dream?

Post or pm.

Walker333
02-18-17, 00:55
I am looking for an MP where I can get a good massage and a HE where the MT seems to take pride or joy in that work. I am looking to see if I can be left weak-kneed and speechless. I don't want it to be like she's pumping up a super soaker once she gets the soldier to salute. This is not a race. I will get there. L1 or L2 is fine; Whatever the practitioner takes more pride in. Time isn't an issue, 60 or 90 minutes. Under $$. I am not looking for FS or a narrative. I thought that the shop on Oakton would be that but my first experience did not live up to the hype. Is it a place, a person or something to say or do? Or is it a pipe dream?

Post or pm.A good MT at the end of the session is tired and sweaty. So, you expect an existed women, giving HJ to middle aged farts, tolerating their sticky fingers on her privates to take pride or joy?

Even most of our wives, girlfriends, mistresses, doing it seldom, hate it.

BonerLander
02-18-17, 01:02
So a MT gave me her personal number. I am assuming that it is so that I can make appointments directly with her and she knows I'm "cool". So far with her I've had just been HE which is fine. Should I only use this to book appointments or should I read more into this?

DMichaels69
02-18-17, 10:21
Places more times than not don't live up to the hype.


I am looking for an MP where I can get a good massage and a HE where the MT seems to take pride or joy in that work. I am looking to see if I can be left weak-kneed and speechless. I don't want it to be like she's pumping up a super soaker once she gets the soldier to salute. This is not a race. I will get there. L1 or L2 is fine; Whatever the practitioner takes more pride in. Time isn't an issue, 60 or 90 minutes. Under $$. I am not looking for FS or a narrative. I thought that the shop on Oakton would be that but my first experience did not live up to the hype. Is it a place, a person or something to say or do? Or is it a pipe dream?

Post or pm.

E6671
02-18-17, 11:51
So a MT gave me her personal number. I am assuming that it is so that I can make appointments directly with her and she knows I'm "cool". So far with her I've had just been HE which is fine. Should I only use this to book appointments or should I read more into this?Most likely just so you can keep in contact in case she moves to another shop or make appointments. However if you are thinking of taking her out on a date, give it a shot. You could become the next Bob521.

E6671
02-18-17, 12:07
The table was green and in the middle there was a pair of dice underneath a piece of clear plastic. I couldn't tell if it was automatic or not, still I was confused as fuck wondering if I was at the right place or not. A smoking hot babe came in and I was hoping that I would get some time with her, but that obviously didn't happen. Just did a quick look through Google maps, the place is called unwind spa on 24th street.

Unfortunately I didn't have enough time to take a look at the apartment, next time.That is an automatic shuffle Mahjong table and I am sure they were gambling. You generally will not see money out. They use playing cards like we would use poker chips. They keep them in tilt out drawers in the side of the table. In the beginning each player gets a full suite of cards worth a value of 1000, take the value of each card x 10. Generally $1 a point value.

Too bad you did not get to check out the Apartment.

Walker333
02-18-17, 12:10
So a MT gave me her personal number. I am assuming that it is so that I can make appointments directly with her and she knows I'm "cool". So far with her I've had just been HE which is fine. Should I only use this to book appointments or should I read more into this?Giving her number is almost like loosing her virginity. Therefore, she is probably in love with you and going to propose, unless. You do it first)).

Lothar22
02-18-17, 12:17
Anyone run into any the girls from the AMP United Spa in Norridge? Since they closed down I've been thinking about Happy quite a bit, she was older but lots of fun.

DMichaels69
02-18-17, 12:24
I'm the buzz kill here. Don't read anything into other than she wants you to be able to make appointments easily.


So a MT gave me her personal number. I am assuming that it is so that I can make appointments directly with her and she knows I'm "cool". So far with her I've had just been HE which is fine. Should I only use this to book appointments or should I read more into this?

PwnLife
02-18-17, 14:11
I am looking for an MP where I can get a good massage and a HE where the MT seems to take pride or joy in that work. I am looking to see if I can be left weak-kneed and speechless. I don't want it to be like she's pumping up a super soaker once she gets the soldier to salute. This is not a race. I will get there. L1 or L2 is fine; Whatever the practitioner takes more pride in. Time isn't an issue, 60 or 90 minutes. Under $$. I am not looking for FS or a narrative. I thought that the shop on Oakton would be that but my first experience did not live up to the hype. Is it a place, a person or something to say or do? Or is it a pipe dream?

Post or pm.You're looking for a unicorn. If girls had 3 stats: Pretty-Massage-Finish, I've run into a lot of pretty+massage, pretty+finish, massage+finish, but hardly ever pretty+massage+finish. These girls move on to better things than cheap jackshacks imo. If you find one. Go as much as you can before she's gone!

E2304
02-18-17, 15:57
You're looking for a unicorn. If girls had 3 stats: Pretty-Massage-Finish, I've run into a lot of pretty+massage, pretty+finish, massage+finish, but hardly ever pretty+massage+finish. These girls move on to better things than cheap jackshacks imo. If you find one. Go as much as you can before she's gone!"In dark all tabbies are gray".

- Benjamin Franklin.

Starks
02-18-17, 16:10
Anyone run into any the girls from the AMP United Spa in Norridge? Since they closed down I've been thinking about Happy quite a bit, she was older but lots of fun.If anybody knows, let me know also. PM if you want to.

MassageGuy7
02-18-17, 16:10
New to type of thing. I recently made a couple stops at a massage spa and had the same lady give me a massage. The last time I was there last week she said she would only be around for another week and she would be leaving to go back home said she lives in another state. Is this a common thing? Do AMP have different girls and lineups every month? I liked her massage and talking with her but I think Georgia is to far to travel. Thanks for any advice you can give me.

Sam Singer
02-18-17, 16:17
I am looking for an MP where I can get a good massage and a HE where the MT seems to take pride or joy in that work. I am looking to see if I can be left weak-kneed and speechless. I don't want it to be like she's pumping up a super soaker once she gets the soldier to salute. This is not a race. I will get there. L1 or L2 is fine; Whatever the practitioner takes more pride in. Time isn't an issue, 60 or 90 minutes. Under $$. I am not looking for FS or a narrative. I thought that the shop on Oakton would be that but my first experience did not live up to the hype. Is it a place, a person or something to say or do? Or is it a pipe dream?

Post or pm.I think you have the right price expectations for such a service. I do not know anyone in this area yet, but when I was in Toronto recently, I just had such a girl who fit your requirements well. It was Wendy (White Rose SPA, Scarborough, CA). Wendy is quite petite and pretty, did a great massage from head to toe. For the finish, got on the table with me full nude for a great L1 finish. So they are out there, if not in our city. But keep searching, there have to be a few here. (As a bonus, given the currency differences, my total damage was less than $100 USA).

Truthfu11
02-18-17, 17:59
I am looking for an MP where I can get a good massage and a HE where the MT seems to take pride or joy in that work. I am looking to see if I can be left weak-kneed and speechless. I don't want it to be like she's pumping up a super soaker once she gets the soldier to salute. This is not a race. I will get there. L1 or L2 is fine; Whatever the practitioner takes more pride in. Time isn't an issue, 60 or 90 minutes. Under $$. I am not looking for FS or a narrative. I thought that the shop on Oakton would be that but my first experience did not live up to the hype. Is it a place, a person or something to say or do? Or is it a pipe dream?

Post or pm.I have had this combo many times but if usually comes after developing a good, ongoing relationship with the MT. I've gotten this with Euros, American, and Asian MT's.

ArielDude28
02-18-17, 20:31
So a MT gave me her personal number. I am assuming that it is so that I can make appointments directly with her and she knows I'm "cool". So far with her I've had just been HE which is fine. Should I only use this to book appointments or should I read more into this?I once had a personal number from one provider and I did get special treatment when it came to appointments. It was nothing more than that. In my case I could also sense some competition between the providers and this provider probably stepped up by sharing her personal number with visitors. Her number went dead when she left the place and I could not contact her again.

PwnLife
02-18-17, 21:42
New to type of thing. I recently made a couple stops at a massage spa and had the same lady give me a massage. The last time I was there last week she said she would only be around for another week and she would be leaving to go back home said she lives in another state. Is this a common thing? Do AMP have different girls and lineups every month? I liked her massage and talking with her but I think Georgia is to far to travel. Thanks for any advice you can give me.Ask her if she's coming back. Some places rotate the girls every week / month. Some places don't rotate at all. Some girls visit for awhile and work for whatever reason and then go back home. Who knows. It's like asking if people change their cars every 5 years or not. Some people lease, some people buy, some save up, some try to hold on to what they have etc.

I think in a big City Area like Chicago, there's a lot of different situations depending on the area / market / clients / girls etc.

E2304
02-18-17, 23:20
Finally got a response. They moved to Belmont and Central. I haven't had a chance to visit their new spot. Please share if you make it out there.

-CR.Do they advertise? Is link available? Google not a friend. Curious.

E6671
02-19-17, 10:42
New to type of thing. I recently made a couple stops at a massage spa and had the same lady give me a massage. The last time I was there last week she said she would only be around for another week and she would be leaving to go back home said she lives in another state. Is this a common thing? Do AMP have different girls and lineups every month? I liked her massage and talking with her but I think Georgia is to far to travel. Thanks for any advice you can give me.Good Question however I do not think anyone can give you a solid Yes or No answer. A lot will depend on the ethnicity of the Spa, the type of Spa and how open the menu is. The first AMPs I went to were Chinese. There were two or three girls that seemed to be there a very long time. Over a year. A couple others seemed to come and go. Menu was limited to L1 and L2. Then I went to a couple of Korean SPAs. Girls rotate every two to three weeks. Everything on the menu. Asian Apartments girls usually around for a couple of months at a time.

I always strike up a conversation, even if there English is limited. Find out where they are from, how many years in the states, ask about family. It is an easy way to find out if they are living in the area or just visiting. So far I would say it is about 50/50. I meet many girls who are just visiting for a while to makes some money and will move on. I am sure the girls that offer full menu understand that we as mongers like someone new every so often.

I suggest you add WeChat, Line and maybe Whatsapp to your phone. I always get a SM contact from girls that I liked so I can keep in contact. This way if the girl you mention above comes back, you will know.

GreatGatsby
02-19-17, 16:32
Originally set up and appointment with Emily. Called on Friday to make the appointment.

Today (Saturday), I went at the time, and she wasn't available. It seemed like they double booked, in case one person doesn't show up. I was disappointed because I was looking forward to having a session with her and I went on a 30 minute drive, but the girl on the counter looked cute, so I said that's okay and had a session with her.

Name is Lily, mid 30's, close to A's, skinny. Had a nice experience.

Total damage $. 8. Very pricey I know, but I think it was worth. I'll return.

Stay safe,

GG.

KingFlex
02-19-17, 18:00
Had to check out Xena, the bodybuilder. She must live in a f-ing gym. After a weak massage, I stripped her and gave her a rub down, she jerked jr. Till I busted a nut on her abs. Way over priced at 180. But I checked muscle chick off my bucket list. Won't be returning, MHS.Man that's crazy.

Huskies
02-19-17, 19:03
I am getting back in after a long absence. I frequented the Belvidere places many times a decade or more ago. My question is this, I am out of shape, meaning I'm older and on the fat side. Is this frowned upon by MPs? I'm not looking to go several times only to get shut out because of my physical shape and not know it. Any help would be appreciated, as I've kind of already RTFF and this question doesn't come up. Thanks.

BonerLander
02-20-17, 01:11
Most likely just so you can keep in contact in case she moves to another shop or make appointments. However if you are thinking of taking her out on a date, give it a shot. You could become the next Bob521.This makes sense, I probably would follow depending on location.

Bob521
02-20-17, 01:22
I think people of all sizes, ages, and shapes can visit am AMP and not offend the therapist.

(1) Hygiene is far more important than your age or physical size. Make sure you are clean, and make sure no swamp ass. A bad smell is probably the easiest way to turn off your therapist.

(2) Be a friendly person. Relax and smile. Show a genuine interest and concern for your therapist. Treat her as a person and she will return the favor.

(3) For the most part, this is a business transaction. Not a date. I mean maybe you want a relationship, but I will assume that's not your goal.

(4) Having said all that, nothing is more important than your physical health. Not just to please the women, but just to stay alive.

I'm 64 and about 10 pounds over my target weight. Had diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and ED, so four years ago I lost 30 pounds in 3 months and got rid of the diabetes and ED exercising 30-40 minutes twice a day. Weight lifting, walking and strength training. Changed to a low carb / Mediterranean type diet.


I am getting back in after a long absence. I frequented the Belvidere places many times a decade or more ago. My question is this, I am out of shape, meaning I'm older and on the fat side. Is this frowned upon by MPs? I'm not looking to go several times only to get shut out because of my physical shape and not know it. Any help would be appreciated, as I've kind of already RTFF and this question doesn't come up. Thanks.

Silvio
02-20-17, 08:58
Can someone PM me Lizs number. Last known location was on Addison St. Near milwaukee. She was partners with petite Andrea awhile ago. Ill take her number as well. Lost a lot of contacts since switching phones. Thanks in advance.

StanleyStankas
02-20-17, 11:19
I think people of all sizes, ages, and shapes can visit am AMP and not offend the therapist.

(1) Hygiene is far more important than your age or physical size. Make sure you are clean, and make sure no swamp ass. A bad smell is probably the easiest way to turn off your therapist.

(2) Be a friendly person. Relax and smile. Show a genuine interest and concern for your therapist. Treat her as a person and she will return the favor.

(3) For the most part, this is a business transaction. Not a date. I mean maybe you want a relationship, but I will assume that's not your goal.

(4) Having said all that, nothing is more important than your physical health. Not just to please the women, but just to stay alive.

I'm 64 and about 10 pounds over my target weight. Had diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and ED, so four years ago I lost 30 pounds in 3 months and got rid of the diabetes and ED exercising 30-40 minutes twice a day. Weight lifting, walking and strength training. Changed to a low carb / Mediterranean type diet.If I looked like I was at 20 and had that kind of energy at my present age of 65 I wouldn't need to pay for the young ones! But still agree it's all in the attitude. Be clean, smell decent and be respectful as respect is given. Set something up and follow thru w / it and don't be cheap if the service was there show your appreciation. Body size imo has nothing to do with all of this. As said many times with these gurls it's not just about the money it's ALL about the money. I read a review of a petite provider that I track because she travels. Anyway she was originally out of new orleans. Can't be more than 5'3" 105 lbs. Does the sexy lingerie, heels, etc. Massages, dom & fetish, FS. Not too pricey. Anyway I read a review of a baker in new orleans that used her service and admitted he was huge like 300-350 lbs! He said he had a great time with her! I mean really she had to be bouncing around on the guy like a waterbed but still he was cool and respectful and of course paid well or she would have just said no way! So s**t, shower, shave and use mouthwash and don't have any prior odors, pay well and you will leave a happy camper!

Shorty58
02-20-17, 15:52
Visited Relax on way to the Auto Show. Had a young, tall, athletic Chinese masseuse (didn't get her name). Great mutual massage, nice nude covered french finish. Door plus 100. Nice girl, nice time.

Not Dead Yet
02-20-17, 19:31
If I looked like I was at 20 and had that kind of energy at my present age of 65 I wouldn't need to pay for the young ones! But still agree it's all in the attitude. Be clean, smell decent and be respectful as respect is given. Set something up and follow thru w / it and don't be cheap if the service was there show your appreciation. Body size imo has nothing to do with all of this. As said many times with these gurls it's not just about the money it's ALL about the money. I read a review of a petite provider that I track because she travels. Anyway she was originally out of new orleans. Can't be more than 5'3" 105 lbs. Does the sexy lingerie, heels, etc. Massages, dom & fetish, FS. Not too pricey. Anyway I read a review of a baker in new orleans that used her service and admitted he was huge like 300-350 lbs! He said he had a great time with her! I mean really she had to be bouncing around on the guy like a waterbed but still he was cool and respectful and of course paid well or she would have just said no way! So s**t, shower, shave and use mouthwash and don't have any prior odors, pay well and you will leave a happy camper!All that, plus, if a table shower is available, I always take advantage of it, even if it costs 10 extra, even if I just got out of the shower. This way she knows for sure that you are clean "all over". Not to mention that I really enjoy having a young lady slowly sliding her slippery hands all over my body!

Also, if I'm considering a place and don't like what I'm seeing, I'll ask if they have a table shower and use that as my excuse to leave rather than stay.

Lokkin4
02-21-17, 15:08
Had COCO. Decent looking and petite. She offered a great massage but asked way to much for HE. Settled for the standard. I may return to see who else is there. Place is nameless as of now. It's west off cicero off Irving.

Pickles13
02-22-17, 10:36
I think people of all sizes, ages, and shapes can visit am AMP and not offend the therapist.

(1) Hygiene is far more important than your age or physical size. Make sure you are clean, and make sure no swamp ass. A bad smell is probably the easiest way to turn off your therapist.

(2) Be a friendly person. Relax and smile. Show a genuine interest and concern for your therapist. Treat her as a person and she will return the favor.

(3) For the most part, this is a business transaction. Not a date. I mean maybe you want a relationship, but I will assume that's not your goal.

(4) Having said all that, nothing is more important than your physical health. Not just to please the women, but just to stay alive.

I'm 64 and about 10 pounds over my target weight. Had diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and ED, so four years ago I lost 30 pounds in 3 months and got rid of the diabetes and ED exercising 30-40 minutes twice a day. Weight lifting, walking and strength training. Changed to a low carb / Mediterranean type diet.Bob, are you doing 30-40 minutes a day, total, or are you doing that twice a day, for a total of 60-80 minutes?

What kind of strength training? Like dumbbells, pushups, etc?

MikeHuntSweat
02-22-17, 10:50
I know Stacey has been discussed before, I took the plunge for HH at 140. She is stunning, pics are accurate.

Full menu available, for a hefty price. MHS.

Lebruno
02-22-17, 11:51
FB app on the phone of late has become a lot more intrusive of your privacy. By default it grants itself a lot of permissions such as turning on geo location, looking into your contacts, shopping pattern, etc. Be sure to check your settings and make sure FB and any other App for that matter has permission to only those things you are comfortable sharing. For this reason I have deleted the FB app on the phone. If I need to be on FB I only log in and log out thru the browser and thereby leave no tracks.


After a trip to a massage parlor yesterday I had 3 friend suggestions pop up on Facebook of girls who work there. I didn't call or give anyone my number. Paid cash, phone was with me at all times, and my location services were turned off. How the hell does Facebook link me with this place!? Is Facebook linking you with people that you are just around?

E2304
02-22-17, 12:49
FB app on the phone of late has become a lot more intrusive of your privacy. By default it grants itself a lot of permissions such as turning on geo location, looking into your contacts, shopping pattern, etc. Be sure to check your settings and make sure FB and any other App for that matter has permission to only those things you are comfortable sharing. For this reason I have deleted the FB app on the phone. If I need to be on FB I only log in and log out thru the browser and thereby leave no tracks.I checked the security settings in my iPhone. Facebook is. It listed as requesting location. Perhaps one wiser can chime in. Android is very different environment. Permission is taken by apps en mass.

LazyRon
02-22-17, 16:15
Any intel on their new location by addison / pulaski??

Phone number shows two identical location both 4006 Archer and Addison.

Shorty58
02-22-17, 19:04
Went this afternoon. Door 70 for an hour, older masseuse, good massage, flip was no haggle went right to work on shorty, offered to lose shirt for a little extra, had nice boobs and decent figure. Nice job, nice ending, 60 tip. Very friendly but not a young spinner.

http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-sport-massage-773-799-7071/50373732

Lurker01
02-23-17, 00:06
I checked the security settings in my iPhone. Facebook is. It listed as requesting location. Perhaps one wiser can chime in. Android is very different environment. Permission is taken by apps en mass.Actually, it's the other way around. When you install on iOS, you get whatever permissions Apple approved. With Android, you see a list of exactly which permissions will be compromised on install of each and every app. You can also deny specific permissions.

Bob521
02-23-17, 03:07
When I was in full workout mode. When I lost 30 pounds in three months. Every day: I walked half an hour in the morning, (speed walk), then at lunch I did about 15 minute of yoga. Which was 10 poses, each pose about 30 seconds. A routine called Yoga for diabetics. Tree pose. Warrior pose. Boat pose. Plank. Downward dog, child pose. Couple others I can't remember, I threw in some push ups and leg lifts and spread leg lifts. All this stuff strengthened the core. Then at 5:30 pm I spent about 40 minutes at the gym. That would include 15 minutes on the eliptical machine. Interval training (about 60 seconds sprint, heart rate to 160 or until I saw flashes of light in my head / 60 seconds slow) repeating the fast slow cycle maybe 5 times. Then I did a circuit on the weight machine, 10 reps on each of ten machines at the heaviest weight I could manage. I got up to 300 pounds on the leg press. Finish with a ten minute steam bath.

Now, unfortunately, (or fortunately) I'm spending all that quality time with L. So I probably only exercise 30 minutes a day. No longer go to the gym. Gained about 10 pounds in the last 12 months. I'm still relatively active, and L cooks super healthy Chinese food. I'm trying to replace the gym workout with room calisthenics.


Bob, are you doing 30-40 minutes a day, total, or are you doing that twice a day, for a total of 60-80 minutes?

What kind of strength training? Like dumbbells, pushups, etc?

HeadFirst80
02-23-17, 08:33
I know Stacey has been discussed before, I took the plunge for HH at 140. She is stunning, pics are accurate.

Full menu available, for a hefty price. MHS.Are you referring to Bike room Stacey? How did you get hold of her? I thought she was very unreliable in keeping appointments!

Layne123
02-23-17, 08:54
I'm 6' 6" in my 40's and overweight. I don't fit on some tables and portable folding table showers are always risky for me. I always feel like they're going to collapse.

That said I shower before I goto places that have no shower or a crappy one (Belmont) and I always get a table shower when available so MT knows I'm clean.

I also understand it's a business transaction and I tip more than a younger thinner man because of my size for a good session. More work deserves more pay in my opinion.

I have yet to have any issues and the MTs usually remember me and seem appreciative of the extra cash.


I am getting back in after a long absence. I frequented the Belvidere places many times a decade or more ago. My question is this, I am out of shape, meaning I'm older and on the fat side. Is this frowned upon by MPs? I'm not looking to go several times only to get shut out because of my physical shape and not know it. Any help would be appreciated, as I've kind of already RTFF and this question doesn't come up. Thanks.

MikeHuntSweat
02-23-17, 09:17
Are you referring to Bike room Stacey? How did you get hold of her? I thought she was very unreliable in keeping appointments!Sorry Bike Room fans, I saw Stacey from Impulse on Montrose ave. Nice girl, killer body, beautiful face. I would love to get her on a bed, instead of a massage table. MHS.

ComTech42
02-23-17, 12:04
I am a visitor from Atlanta and I will reciprocate. Seeking recommendations for a couple good AMPs in the Lombard area.

Fat Fred
02-24-17, 00:34
Went to Happy Feet Asian Spa on 88th in Tinley Park this evening. Got there around 8 but the lady at the door said all therapists were busy and I should call and make an appointment for tomorrow.

Tomorrow doesn't fit my schedule so I dreamt I drove over to Crystal in Matteson. Crystal is open and thriving but prices are higher than I remember from October. Price now is. 8 for up to 45 minutes, no half hour or hour rates posted.

Drew Lili who has been there 3 weeks now. Actually quite cute, maybe 7 or 8 on my AMP scale, mid 20's, and slim build with nice B cups. Wore a sexy polka-dotted dress which accentuated her killer legs and tight little ass.

So-so massage but teased and moaned while rubbing my back putting me in the mood for more. On the flip made the international sign she was hungry and wanted to put something in her mouth. Dreamt she mumbled something like "hunted dolla" but my wallet was a little thin. Opted for a nice slow, skillful HE for. 7 and dreamt she dropped the party dress and was totally naked for the finale.

Sexy girl, decent finish and great body. Suggest you bring more as $$ all in, including the door fee, would have gotten you most anything.

BTW, upon leaving I saw Uncle LEO had 4 of his cars at Pepe's right next door. My assumption is that there may have been some sort of altercation at margarita night. Regardless, I don't care to see my uncles anywhere near my dreams. Be careful.

Fred.

Sbuc322
02-24-17, 01:05
I went to Amari energy worx the other day. I meet with the girl I always have her name is Gabby. This girl is not only beautiful but very intelligent. Talking with her as I received the massage was like talking to an old friend. Just so Pleasant. Her massage was off the charts. The ending was juicy and toe curling. She knows just how to rub you the right way. I can't wait for an opportunity to go see her again. Just think about her has things stirring in certain places. Take advantage of an chance to go see her what a peach of a young lady. Make sure you talk to her and everything will be happy.

Lebruno
02-24-17, 01:43
I really like your routine and anyone could adapt and put it to good use. Also, I notice that the bulk of your exercises are LISS (low-intensity steady state) based which maintains at 60 - 70% of Max Heart Rate. This is in strong contrast to HITT (High-intensity interval training) which typically works out at 80-90% of MHR with brief rest periods. While the pros and cons of each of these exercise approaches are very debatable recent research shows that LISS exercisers consistently scored better in one area. In the bedroom. Apparently low intensity workouts, obviously, have a more positive effect on the libido as compared to high intensity workouts which can make things get very sore and dampen libido. LOL.


When I was in full workout mode. When I lost 30 pounds in three months. Every day: I walked half an hour in the morning, (speed walk), then at lunch I did about 15 minute of yoga. Which was 10 poses, each pose about 30 seconds. A routine called Yoga for diabetics. Tree pose. Warrior pose. Boat pose. Plank. Downward dog, child pose. Couple others I can't remember, I threw in some push ups and leg lifts and spread leg lifts. All this stuff strengthened the core. Then at 5:30 pm I spent about 40 minutes at the gym. That would include 15 minutes on the eliptical machine. Interval training (about 60 seconds sprint, heart rate to 160 or until I saw flashes of light in my head / 60 seconds slow) repeating the fast slow cycle maybe 5 times. Then I did a circuit on the weight machine, 10 reps on each of ten machines at the heaviest weight I could manage. I got up to 300 pounds on the leg press. Finish with a ten minute steam bath.

Now, unfortunately, (or fortunately) I'm spending all that quality time with L. So I probably only exercise 30 minutes a day. No longer go to the gym. Gained about 10 pounds in the last 12 months. I'm still relatively active, and L cooks super healthy Chinese food. I'm trying to replace the gym workout with room calisthenics.

Lothar22
02-24-17, 01:51
Had COCO. Decent looking and petite. She offered a great massage but asked way to much for HE. Settled for the standard. I may return to see who else is there. Place is nameless as of now. It's west off cicero off Irving.What was the damage?

Whamster123
02-24-17, 14:21
Anyone been to Lilly Spa on Belmont? I usually go there when Belmont spa is busy, but it seems like only 1 girl works there who is much older. Massage is okay but extras offered.

BenBeck
02-24-17, 16:03
Anyone been to Lilly Spa on Belmont? I usually go there when Belmont spa is busy, but it seems like only 1 girl works there who is much older. Massage is okay but extras offered.There are two regulars there, the one you know, one younger, and an alternate on weekends, also young.

The older one is very accommodating, others are limited, YMMV, each good in her own way.

PM for any details.

DaJeezy
02-24-17, 18:59
So previously I wrote a review on Gina at a massage parlor off Montrose period she is amazing and she still is. I also saw Melissa from the same place and she is equally has great. Today I had The Misfortune to see one of their new latina girls, Letty. I come in and I'm a bit disappointed at how she looks. She has a fairly chubby figure and chubby face. Overall I would say a 4 out of 10. But I said okay I don't want to jeopardize my relationship with the booker so I'll go along with it. Plus she must make up for it in her service right? So so wrong.

I undress lay down and she immediately starts with what has to be the fastest massage I've ever gotten in my entire life. I didn't even realize someone that size could move that fast (I kid. She's not that big but I'm fairly annoyed right now). She was rubbing her hands all over my back meanwhile squirting a ridiculous amount of oil all over it. It was very very obvious that she was in some sort of hurry. Or that maybe she just did not want to be there.

On top of that the massage itself was terrible. It was like a person would hit a piece of steak after taking a ton of cocaine. I turned my head twice to see if she was having a seizure or something. Anyway silver lining, she did not continue her warp speed massage for too long. After about 3 minutes of this high speed robotic "massage" she asked me to turn over. I was supposed to be there for an hour. HA.

She continues dousing me in oil after turn as if she were getting ready to baste me for Thanksgiving before attempting to give me a HE. Total time into the session 5 minutes. 5 F ING minutes. The song that was playing hadn't even ended yet. She starts tugging like she's trying to string out unpaid child support from it before I end it. I can't do it anymore. I tell her that's enough and just leave. She's not nice to look at (bit mean but the truth. Especially compared to the other girls there who are smoking sexy). But her service is somehow even worse. She was literally the WORST session I've ever had to endure. 312 995 - is the number to the place.

Now the other girls there are great! Haven't seen Jordan yet but her videos look sexy. Melissa and Gina are both top notch and recommended if you're looking for a sexy girl with a sensual touch. They will leave you completely satisfied yet somehow still wanting more and I 10000% recommend them.

Also the handler offered me a discount on my next session bc I was so disappointed. I don't know if Ill ever go back but don't let this deter you from visiting. Her other girls are A+++.

But Letty will Letty you down. 0/10 recommend.

TJSterling
02-25-17, 17:55
I really have a preference for these, but I know not all AMPs have them. Any recommendations? I tried searching the forums but couldn't find anything.

Thanks!

Tijuana.

TJSterling
02-25-17, 18:14
I'm new to the scene, but saw some reviews and thought I would try this place out. I didn't catch her name, but petite, somewhat attractive, and teeth could use some work. I had to ring the doorbell a couple times before she answered. Turns out she was alone and with a client. There was a bit of a language barrier, but she asked me to wait 10 minutes. No problem. Got to the TS right away, but on the flip she had me sit up, squirted soap on my junk and hands and (I think) told me to wash myself. Bummer. Afterwards she dried me off and took me to another room for the massage. Really nothing special. Not even half way through the doorbell rang, and she had to let in another customer. After that things felt rushed. There was no offer or hint of anything extra at the end, and I wasn't sure how to ask because she said she had to go to the other customer. I'm not sure what if anything I did wrong. Maybe I need to go back to build up her trust? I'm kind of a newbie, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Tijuana.

E2304
02-25-17, 21:30
I went in to see Gina last week. They have a small parlor that is completely private. No signs outside the place and without the address, you would never find it. But inside is a decently nice typical massage parlor.

She advertises off backpage and can be found fairly easily. Pm me if you need more details.

She only works Mondays and wednesdays.

Gina is an amazing latina with fantastic curves. Man made Tits that are a bit hard but she has an ass to die for. I saw a few other ladies there but was not interested.

The massage was by far the sexiest experience of my life. She spent almost 40 minutes slowly teasing me while rubbing her nearly naked body all over. On the flip she took her time and whispered in my ear things that drove me crazy. She took my fingers and guided me to feel how wet she was. We took the entire hour.

If you want an actual massage, she's not about that. She does not apply any pressure whatsoever. But if you want that sexy body sliding all over you slowly and sensually, go see her. She's a bit pricier at $160 for the hour for the HJ finish but I finished harder than other times with actual penetration. She's a great time. The best time I've had to date with a massage provider.Several posts match BP search for Gina.

E2304
02-26-17, 13:55
Several posts match BP search for Gina.I retract my question. FML.

Any other member have a report from this provider group?

TJSterling
02-26-17, 22:49
I really have a preference for these, but I know not all AMPs have them. Any recommendations? I tried searching the forums but couldn't find anything.

Thanks!

Tijuana.Apparently my nickname is Tijuana? LOL I signed it T J (as in TeeJay) autocorrect much?

CafeRaceritali
02-27-17, 01:29
I looking to take my first trip to Macau Spa either Saturday, Sunday or Monday. Which is the best day to go and a good time to go?Just make sure you ask for vivian. She is the mamason and give great tableshowers. This place used to rock, but has been hit or miss for me lately. When I last went there, middle of the day on a weekday, Vivian was out and they tried pushing this old fat woman with the grossest mouth sore I've ever seen.

ThrillHammer
02-27-17, 13:00
I checked this place out last week. First time ever doing the apartment incall route. 2 texts and they sent the address. They give you an address a few houses down then give you the real one upon arrival. This one was tucked back off archer along I 55 and in a house. Got in and was brought upstairs where there was 2 girls, each standing in a bedroom doorway in a bra and puss covers. I picked door #2 "anna". In my opinion she was hot as hell. Awesome body, about 5 foot 4,long dark hair, and about 22 years old. I was expecting my choices to be closer to an average AMP girl, but she was a solid 7/10 on a regular scale, not AMP scale. Paid the hour, said kissing was extra. She rubded my back for a few minutes, poorly, didn't care, and then turned me over, covered me, started with oral covered, thn numerous positions. Very very enthusiastic, multiple loud orgasms, finished and offered a shower, then out the door. Seems to be even if you paid the hour and you finish before the time is up, they are quick to get you out. I really didn't care because I was done, it was late, and I wanted tacos. I'd absolutely repeat if she is there.

http://chicago.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/new-new-new-3-asian-girls-shower-together-come-and-play/49640107

MrSmartyPants
02-27-17, 16:36
Randomly stopped in there over the weekend because my regular place closed early. Hadn't read reviews.

The good: Somewhat cute masseuse with nice body (amy). Had some actual massage skill.

The bad: negotiation at the flip. Demanded 60, I foolishly agreed (but only if she'd go topless).

She didn't. Damn top stayed on. Some roaming allowed but no clothes came off. Still the finish was nice, but was rushed out of there. Once I was dressed I noticed the clock and called her out on shorting me by half an hour. The usual lame and not sincere "make it up to you next time" routine. I've heard that so many times, but can't recall a time it was ever made up to me.

I think I'd have been happy (enough) and not complained here, if I wasn't shorted half my time. That just bugs me.

E2304
02-27-17, 17:51
Randomly stopped in there over the weekend because my regular place closed early. Hadn't read reviews.

The good: Somewhat cute masseuse with nice body (amy). Had some actual massage skill.

The bad: negotiation at the flip. Demanded 60, I foolishly agreed (but only if she'd go topless).

She didn't. Damn top stayed on. Some roaming allowed but no clothes came off. Still the finish was nice, but was rushed out of there. Once I was dressed I noticed the clock and called her out on shorting me by half an hour. The usual lame and not sincere "make it up to you next time" routine. I've heard that so many times, but can't recall a time it was ever made up to me.

I think I'd have been happy (enough) and not complained here, if I wasn't shorted half my time. That just bugs me.Numerous angel (x) spa in Chicago area: north and south Ashland, oak park come to mind. Would hate to doom all of heaven's host for the misdeed of one.

Call Me Slappy
02-27-17, 18:06
Last couple of weeks have been stressful as hell. Went for some stress release last week early in the day. Went to my go to in Schaumburg near the office, drew Cindy. She has magical hands.

As soon as the massage started I was so wound up I asked the her if we could start the session off with the finish then the massage. She said no problem. I think I lasted all of 30 seconds before she got a weeks' worth of swimmers in her hand. It was pretty funny, because she kept saying "Oh gosh, look at all these babies coming out!" then getting a slightly disgusted look on her face because *there were a lot of babies* coming out. She was laughing but kind of grossed out by the volume. Yeah, work has been like that.

After the cleanup up went back to face down and fell asleep probably about 5 minutes in while getting a halfway decent massage. With 15 minutes left she woke me for the flip to do my shoulders and legs. This was probably the most relaxed I've ever walked out of an AMP. I tipped a little extra just because of the way I felt. Went back to work, it went to hell and I didn't give a shit.

Anybody else here finish first then massage? If so, just on occasion or regularly?

Walker333
02-27-17, 19:49
Just make sure you ask for vivian. She is the mamason and give great tableshowers. This place used to rock, but has been hit or miss for me lately. When I last went there, middle of the day on a weekday, Vivian was out and they tried pushing this old fat woman with the grossest mouth sore I've ever seen.IMHO a person will enjoy Macau only if he is looking for a decent massage, otherwise it's a challenge because they all are over 40 (probably late forties or early fifties) ABSOLUTELY AND DEFINITELY NOT GOOD LOOKING!

Overall all of them are nice people, but from the erotic perspective they are on the opposite side. AND YMMV in respect of leaving happy.

Walker333
02-27-17, 20:03
Last couple of weeks have been stressful as hell. Went for some stress release last week early in the day. Went to my go to in Schaumburg near the office, drew Cindy. She has magical hands.

As soon as the massage started I was so wound up I asked the her if we could start the session off with the finish then the massage. She said no problem. I think I lasted all of 30 seconds before she got a weeks' worth of swimmers in her hand. It was pretty funny, because she kept saying "Oh gosh, look at all these babies coming out!" then getting a slightly disgusted look on her face because *there were a lot of babies* coming out. She was laughing but kind of grossed out by the volume. Yeah, work has been like that.

After the cleanup up went back to face down and fell asleep probably about 5 minutes in while getting a halfway decent massage. With 15 minutes left she woke me for the flip to do my shoulders and legs. This was probably the most relaxed I've ever walked out of an AMP. I tipped a little extra just because of the way I felt. Went back to work, it went to hell and I didn't give a shit.

Anybody else here finish first then massage? If so, just on occasion or regularly?I have may times, but always had a second one at the end.

Actually first were BJs and / or FSs, on occasions just HJs.

Avg Joe
02-27-17, 20:07
I checked this place out last week. First time ever doing the apartment incall route. 2 texts and they sent the address. They give you an address a few houses down then give you the real one upon arrival. This one was tucked back off archer along I 55 and in a house. Got in and was brought upstairs where there was 2 girls, each standing in a bedroom doorway in a bra and puss covers. I picked door #2 "anna". In my opinion she was hot as hell. Awesome body, about 5 foot 4,long dark hair, and about 22 years old. I was expecting my choices to be closer to an average AMP girl, but she was a solid 7/10 on a regular scale, not AMP scale. Paid the hour, said kissing was extra. She rubded my back for a few minutes, poorly, didn't care, and then turned me over, covered me, started with oral covered, thn numerous positions. Very very enthusiastic, multiple loud orgasms, finished and offered a shower, then out the door. Seems to be even if you paid the hour and you finish before the time is up, they are quick to get you out. I really didn't care because I was done, it was late, and I wanted tacos. I'd absolutely repeat if she is there.

http://chicago.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/new-new-new-3-asian-girls-shower-together-come-and-play/49640107What were the damages?

Nice report.

Iamslobbyist
02-27-17, 21:52
I really have a preference for these, but I know not all AMPs have them. Any recommendations? I tried searching the forums but couldn't find anything.

Thanks!

Tijuana.I have gotten great table showers from Judy at Lilly Spa on Belmont.

MrSmartyPants
02-28-17, 00:16
Numerous angel (x) spa in Chicago area: north and south Ashland, oak park come to mind. Would hate to doom all of heaven's host for the misdeed of one.Definitely not Oak Park. Or anywhere remotely South. I plan never to return and have already deleted the location from my mental hard drive. Not a city dweller; lost and generally uncomfortable every time I'm driving around Chicago.

E2304
02-28-17, 01:15
Definitely not Oak Park. Or anywhere remotely South. I plan never to return and have already deleted the location from my mental hard drive. Not a city dweller; lost and generally uncomfortable every time I'm driving around Chicago.I was looking forward to a visit based upon prior reviews. Interestingly enough one of the south side places (?bamboo) was using the same cute photo as angel on and Ashland. The one with the women and the heart shaped pillow.

Hrodebert
02-28-17, 02:58
Great comment. The same guy answers the phone for at least three of them.


Numerous angel (x) spa in Chicago area: north and south Ashland, oak park come to mind. Would hate to doom all of heaven's host for the misdeed of one.

Ron M
02-28-17, 03:05
Great comment. The same guy answers the phone for at least three of them.Maybe this guy owns / runs three of these places.

Jadedone
02-28-17, 10:49
Last couple of weeks have been stressful as hell. Went for some stress release last week early in the day. Went to my go to in Schaumburg near the office, drew Cindy. She has magical hands.

As soon as the massage started I was so wound up I asked the her if we could start the session off with the finish then the massage. She said no problem. I think I lasted all of 30 seconds before she got a weeks' worth of swimmers in her hand. It was pretty funny, because she kept saying "Oh gosh, look at all these babies coming out!" then getting a slightly disgusted look on her face because *there were a lot of babies* coming out. She was laughing but kind of grossed out by the volume. Yeah, work has been like that.

After the cleanup up went back to face down and fell asleep probably about 5 minutes in while getting a halfway decent massage. With 15 minutes left she woke me for the flip to do my shoulders and legs. This was probably the most relaxed I've ever walked out of an AMP. I tipped a little extra just because of the way I felt. Went back to work, it went to hell and I didn't give a shit.

Anybody else here finish first then massage? If so, just on occasion or regularly?I've had this before too. It's actually nice because like you said, the massage is so relaxing afterwards.

StyleJt
02-28-17, 11:10
Heading to the university of Chica later in the week. I'm from Indiana and not familiar with the talent in that area. If you know of a good location with a full menu that includes a nice massage I would be happy to return the favor if you head to nwi. Thanks.

WhenInRome
02-28-17, 11:38
Any luck here?

Dave Dewers
02-28-17, 15:34
Last couple of weeks have been stressful as hell. Went for some stress release last week early in the day. Went to my go to in Schaumburg near the office, drew Cindy. She has magical hands.

As soon as the massage started I was so wound up I asked the her if we could start the session off with the finish then the massage. She said no problem. I think I lasted all of 30 seconds before she got a weeks' worth of swimmers in her hand. It was pretty funny, because she kept saying "Oh gosh, look at all these babies coming out!" then getting a slightly disgusted look on her face because *there were a lot of babies* coming out. She was laughing but kind of grossed out by the volume. Yeah, work has been like that.

After the cleanup up went back to face down and fell asleep probably about 5 minutes in while getting a halfway decent massage. With 15 minutes left she woke me for the flip to do my shoulders and legs. This was probably the most relaxed I've ever walked out of an AMP. I tipped a little extra just because of the way I felt. Went back to work, it went to hell and I didn't give a shit.

Anybody else here finish first then massage? If so, just on occasion or regularly?That's been my MO for a while now, happy start AND happy ending. I used to take the table shower first, and would flash 2 fingers while she was washing the pole. Now I usually ask before they collect the house fee, to avoid any disappointment. I just ask for "two times". Mostly get a yes, or they want some reassurance that I'll tip more. Occasionally I have to tip upfront, but not very often.

Dave.

Ron M
02-28-17, 21:25
Anybody else here finish first then massage? If so, just on occasion or regularly?I like getting a massage before playing. To me it just builds up the anticipation to play.

Gerkin Jerkin
03-01-17, 19:28
I checked this place out last week. First time ever doing the apartment incall route. 2 texts and they sent the address. They give you an address a few houses down then give you the real one upon arrival. This one was tucked back off archer along I 55 and in a house. Got in and was brought upstairs where there was 2 girls, each standing in a bedroom doorway in a bra and puss covers. I picked door #2 "anna". In my opinion she was hot as hell. Awesome body, about 5 foot 4,long dark hair, and about 22 years old. I was expecting my choices to be closer to an average AMP girl, but she was a solid 7/10 on a regular scale, not AMP scale. Paid the hour, said kissing was extra. She rubded my back for a few minutes, poorly, didn't care, and then turned me over, covered me, started with oral covered, thn numerous positions. Very very enthusiastic, multiple loud orgasms, finished and offered a shower, then out the door. Seems to be even if you paid the hour and you finish before the time is up, they are quick to get you out. I really didn't care because I was done, it was late, and I wanted tacos. I'd absolutely repeat if she is there.

http://chicago.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/new-new-new-3-asian-girls-shower-together-come-and-play/49640107I used this service yesterday. 130 for hhr. You have to call then they texted an address on Archer. Called when I got there and texted the real address across the street. Dark sad little apartment. I did not get a choice. I got the lady who answered the door. A solid 5 - brown hair and pale skin. Tiny boobs and huge nips. I asked for a massage which seemed to surprise her. The massage was a 3. Flipped and got CBJ. She has a procedure to follow and does not deviate from it. CFS. The only english she spoke was "wow. ".

On the way out, there was a young, thin, black haired beauty lounging on the couch. DAMN! I would probably go back to check out the young hotty. Otherwise, I prefer the thai and latina girls.

E2304
03-02-17, 00:15
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/6025139383.html

Earlier ad had only two day shift ladies. This is Mary / Maria. Photo is different and I can't tell if it's the same lady. Perhaps a dreamer can chime in.

Snowmadics
03-02-17, 16:19
Bad dream.

I dreamt I went to a place on wabash downtown chicago. In this Saran Wrap dream her lips were around my member.

I dreamt the next day I was itching. I had a bad dream and found out it was gonnorhea. Saran Wrap is not safe.

Bob521
03-02-17, 16:57
I knew a guy, who, back in the day, would get about 10 minutes massage, then give her 15 minutes, then play 30 minutes, then 10 minutes massage to wind-down. Sometimes I miss that guy. On the other hand now he spends much more quality time, hours, in fact, every day with a woman he adores. I guess he's pretty lucky.


I like getting a massage before playing. To me it just builds up the anticipation to play.

Ron M
03-02-17, 17:25
I knew a guy, who, back in the day, would get about 10 minutes massage, then give her 15 minutes, then play 30 minutes, then 10 minutes massage to wind-down. Sometimes I miss that guy. On the other hand now he spends much more quality time, hours, in fact, every day with a woman he adores. I guess he's pretty lucky.Bob this lucky guy sounds like you.

MikeHuntSweat
03-02-17, 23:24
Bodywise is one of my favorite legit massages, I'm ok with that, just curious if anyone has cracked that nut. Please PM me.

MHS.

SmileySam
03-03-17, 09:25
Bad dream.

I dreamt I went to a place on wabash downtown chicago. In this Saran Wrap dream her lips were around my member.

I dreamt the next day I was itching. I had a bad dream and found out it was gonnorhea. Saran Wrap is not safe.Got an std from BJ? Ouch! That is why the most I ever do is a handshake. Just think, these massage parlors have many many clients so the opportunity to catch something is very real.

E2304
03-03-17, 12:27
[Deleted by Admin]

There is a thread for STD information and advice.

A2

NotThatGuy77
03-03-17, 13:35
Got an std from BJ? Ouch! That is why the most I ever do is a handshake. Just think, these massage parlors have many many clients so the opportunity to catch something is very real.Was that your only recent encounter? Incubation period is usually a few days.

E2304
03-03-17, 17:13
Bad dream.

I dreamt I went to a place on wabash downtown chicago. In this Saran Wrap dream her lips were around my member.

I dreamt the next day I was itching. I had a bad dream and found out it was gonnorhea. Saran Wrap is not safe.FYI wabash searches to several locations, including a Massage school.

Walker333
03-03-17, 17:55
Maybe this guy owns / runs three of these places.Went on Belmont, I usually see Michelle there, but she was busy (although I called and made an appointment with her).

The new girl Lina was my mt. Probably late 20, very chubby, but giggly.

The room was filthy and very cold. Massage was weak and unprofessional. Shorted 20 min. A few times she massaged me using just one hand because her second hand was busy texting. Practically no teasing.

HJ mechanical.

I paid standard, but she demanded extra 20. For some, unclear to me reasons I could not say "No".

I used Belmont only as last resort, but now I'm going to terminate my appearances there completely.

Pedorro
03-03-17, 20:34
Bad dream.

I dreamt I went to a place on wabash downtown chicago. In this Saran Wrap dream her lips were around my member.

I dreamt the next day I was itching. I had a bad dream and found out it was gonnorhea. Saran Wrap is not safe.They have been know to recycle everything!.

Castlerae
03-03-17, 21:28
Bad dream.

I dreamt I went to a place on wabash downtown chicago. In this Saran Wrap dream her lips were around my member.

I dreamt the next day I was itching. I had a bad dream and found out it was gonnorhea. Saran Wrap is not safe.I've been to too many AMP's to not take my own hat. Spares you the excuse of "No condom, no sex. ", and you never have to wonder if the one the provider whips out has been recycled or not.

DMichaels69
03-03-17, 22:00
Yea, I would think one day would be to soon.


Was that your only recent encounter? Incubation period is usually a few days.

LpMonger
03-04-17, 13:08
Hi, I am a long time lurker first time poster. Please let me know if my post can be amended to be more helpful. This is the info on 3 dreams I had this week and hen I have a question for the seasoned vets.

First dream was to a place on broadway. I used to frequent this place because there was a great provider here who took good care of me. However this time I got a different lady who was older and not very attractive. Massage was terrible, on the flip she asked for money and put her chubby tits on my face, decent HE, total damage. 6 at the door and. 4 at the end (before you say that's too much, . 6 and then. 4 is my standard, I don't have an issue paying it for good service and in reality what does. 2 difference matter).

Second dream was to Belmont spot. This place was great, therapist was prob late 20's had on short shorts and freshly shave legs, lots of roaming. Massage and he both great, I will be back. Same thing. 6 plus. 4. She wanted the other. 2 I had and she almost got it but I said next time. Very cute gal. Now leaving this place I walked past another place that I had read about and saw one of the therapists leaving and said to myslef I HAVE to try this place, the girl was a 9 on non AMP scale.

So this 3rd dream. I did not get the girl I saw but another almost as attractive young girl, Latina maybe early 20's. Place bills itself as a spa, was a great soapy table shower, her in short black shorts and a tank top. Great finish on the flip, very friendly lots of roaming allowed, hand in shorts etc. Fee here is $ so I just did that plus. 2. Honestly with the quality of these beauties I think it's worth it. I will say the floors in the rooms aren't going to last long, obviously aren't meant to take all that water haha.

Now for my question. A few years back I called this girl from BP on a whim, pics were indiscreet but for some reason I got the vibe it was a new amateur. So she shows up and sure enough she's was prob 19, great body, skinny with beutiful tight bottom and amazing chest, was wearing sexiest thing under her tight ass pants. Name was Anna, said she was studying nursing. Was so tight she couldn't take all of me and there was lots of kissing. I tired calling her again but number was dosconnected, guessing it was a burner she bought for that purpose. Wondering if anyone knows her. Thanks.

NewManL
03-04-17, 18:52
Long time lurker, occasional poster. Still haven't tried my hand at the AMP as works been filling up most of my time. Fairly nervous and IMO would feel much more at ease with an older masseuse then one around my age (early 20's). Is it possible to request a Mamasan to massage you?

Starks
03-04-17, 20:26
Long time lurker, occasional poster. Still haven't tried my hand at the AMP as works been filling up most of my time. Fairly nervous and IMO would feel much more at ease with an older masseuse then one around my age (early 20's). Is it possible to request a Mamasan to massage you?Try out Lane Spa in Lombard or Macau Spa in China Town. I think just about all of the ladies at those two will suit your taste.

BonerLander
03-05-17, 14:01
Macau Spa in China Town.Their youngest at Macau is probably late 40's.

BonerLander
03-05-17, 14:15
First dream was to a place on broadway.


Now for my question. A few years back I called this girl from BP on a whim, pics were indiscreet but for some reason I got the vibe it was a new amateur. So she shows up and sure enough she's was prob 19, great body, skinny with beutiful tight bottom and amazing chest, was wearing sexiest thing under her tight ass pants. Name was Anna, said she was studying nursing. Was so tight she couldn't take all of me and there was lots of kissing. I tired calling her again but number was dosconnected, guessing it was a burner she bought for that purpose. Wondering if anyone knows her. Thanks.If it is the place in Buena Park, they opened 3 or 4 years ago, had a great girl named Michelle. She left, then I always got stuck with a girl with big tits and a gut who would only let you jack yourself. After several times I decided that it wasn't worth the location and stopped going.

For your question, keep your eyes open on BP and see if she puts, might be different local. If you have her old posting pics you can try to reverse image search and see if she's listed elsewhere, though it is always possible somebody stole her pics.

Avg Joe
03-06-17, 08:17
Try out Lane Spa in Lombard or Macau Spa in China Town. I think just about all of the ladies at those two will suit your taste.Save your money and don't even bother with Lane's in Lombard.

As I and several others have reported in the Lombard thread, Lane's is probably the worst place in Chicago. Macau does have older girls but they are better than anything Lane's has ever had to offer going back 20 years or so.

AJ.

Walker333
03-06-17, 11:53
Save your money and don't even bother with Lane's in Lombard.

As I and several others have reported in the Lombard thread, Lane's is probably the worst place in Chicago. Macau does have older girls but they are better than anything Lane's has ever had to offer going back 20 years or so.

AJ.In Macau YMMV, providers are not sexy and old, just friendly.

BluCottonCandy
03-06-17, 12:29
A week ago I found myself north of the border in Wi, I checked out racine kenosha backpage and was not disappointed in the 2 places I went. I never popped twice before, not only did I, I was encouraged from the start. 65 door 50 tip, will return to both.

39th ave.

22nd street.

Avg Joe
03-06-17, 12:54
In Macau YMMV, providers are not sexy and old, just friendly.Macau is friendly, yes. Sometimes they get a younger one but not too often.

I see one from time to time who is in her mid 50's, does not dress sexy and while working has her hair pulled back. If you walked into an MP you would not think much of her. However, once in the room when the hair comes down and the clothes come off she is pretty, has a rockin body and knows how to use it. Originally met her at the flower shop but we keep in contact since she has moved on.

AJ.

FngrBngr
03-06-17, 14:10
IMHO a person will enjoy Macau only if he is looking for a decent massage, otherwise it's a challenge because they all are over 40 (probably late forties or early fifties) ABSOLUTELY AND DEFINITELY NOT GOOD LOOKING!

Overall all of them are nice people, but from the erotic perspective they are on the opposite side. AND YMMV in respect of leaving happy.Not sure if I'm my own with this one but I've always enjoyed an old asian grandma jerking me off for dear life with her finger in my ass. I think its hysterical!

Finger.

SmileySam
03-06-17, 14:15
Not sure if I'm my own with this one but I've always enjoyed an old asian grandma jerking me off for dear life with her finger in my ass. I think its hysterical!

Finger.Excuse me while I barf!

Avg Joe
03-06-17, 15:10
Not sure if I'm my own with this one but I've always enjoyed an old asian grandma jerking me off for dear life with her finger in my ass. I think its hysterical!

Finger.Now I'm going to have this mental image stuck in my head the rest of the day.

Thanks FB.

AJ.

NewManL
03-06-17, 19:56
Not sure if I'm my own with this one but I've always enjoyed an old asian grandma jerking me off for dear life with her finger in my ass. I think its hysterical!

Finger.While I'm not sure a finger in the ass will get me going, it has always been a fantasy of mine to have an older Asian woman jerk me off. Macau it is. Does anyone know if the surrounding area is a little sketchy? It's east of Armour Square and I'd be most likely taking a cab there and the train back.

CafeRaceritali
03-06-17, 23:18
Any intel on their new location by addison / pulaski??

Phone number shows two identical location both 4006 Archer and Addison.I went there last summer. Place was pretty dirty. No table shower. The girl was cute. Was a ligit massage. Likely the kind of place you have to invest some time. But the girl was really cute. Boy shorts. I love boy shorts.

Avg Joe
03-06-17, 23:39
While I'm not sure a finger in the ass will get me going, it has always been a fantasy of mine to have an older Asian woman jerk me off. Macau it is. Does anyone know if the surrounding area is a little sketchy? It's east of Armour Square and I'd be most likely taking a cab there and the train back.Wentworth Ave in Chinatown and the Red Line station there should be ok during daytime or early evening hours. After dark it does get a little sketchy. I have been there dozens of times and never had a problem.

AJ.

MWiggly2
03-07-17, 15:36
I used to be a frequent visitor but haven't been there since the bust until last week. Things were looking pretty good. I drew "Lucky" she was OK, but not exactly attractive- call her plain (with a lot of makeup) Got a decent Table shower, went to room for massage and pretty much everything fell apart. Sparing the unnecessary details, she was quick to want to get to the tipping.

She asked for $ for a HE and $. 4 for FS and that's on top of the door fee. So for $$. 20 I get an crappy massage and FS with a plain girl. Much better deals elsewhere. I declined the service and asked for only massage. I got in my car and drove off. I look at the clock and realize I was in there less than 30 minutes. I turned around and went in to ask for a refund. After a lot of bitching they gave me back 1/2 the door fee. I made it clear that I wouldn't come back.

What was really freaky was after I left, a car with 3 asian men followed me out of the lot. I made several turns before they veered off. I decided to drive back to Pine Tree and guess who was sitting in the parking lot? Yeah the same 3 guys. I can't say it was related but mamasan picked up her cell phone while I was waiting for my refund.

Keep in mind, mamasan recognized me as a former regular. Never had issues in the past. I've been a hobbyist for 10 yrs so I know how to act when entering the spa. Definitely won't be going back.

Walker333
03-07-17, 19:08
While I'm not sure a finger in the ass will get me going, it has always been a fantasy of mine to have an older Asian woman jerk me off. Macau it is. Does anyone know if the surrounding area is a little sketchy? It's east of Armour Square and I'd be most likely taking a cab there and the train back.Be aware that Your fantasy could be ruined because mts there are not pretty, in fact just an opposite, and it's YMMV.

Bob521
03-07-17, 19:53
I can testify that Joe's advice has always been solid. Of course, I'm sure his game is sufficient to get him through ANY YMMV situation.

I always have to smile when someone says "old" ladies in their 40's. Being 64, I consider being with a 40-year-old is cradle robbing (like with my Chinese "wife" Mei ("L") who actually is a grandmother! Hopefully, we can measure our contact with a woman by more than just looks. Over the years, I've met many "older" people who are intelligent, witty, kind, awesome cooks, and incredibly sensual and sexy. You'd be very shortsighted to look down on these people. My life has been immeasurably enriched by them. Bob.


Be aware that Your fantasy could be ruined because mts there are not pretty, in fact just an opposite, and it's YMMV.

Confucius
03-07-17, 21:14
I can testify that Joe's advice has always been solid. Of course, I'm sure his game is sufficient to get him through ANY YMMV situation.

I always have to smile when someone says "old" ladies in their 40's. Being 64, I consider being with a 40-year-old is cradle robbing (like with my Chinese "wife" Mei ("L") who actually is a grandmother! Hopefully, we can measure our contact with a woman by more than just looks. Over the years, I've met many "older" people who are intelligent, witty, kind, awesome cooks, and incredibly sensual and sexy. You'd be very shortsighted to look down on these people. My life has been immeasurably enriched by them. Bob.Agree 100%.

Pilatus65
03-08-17, 12:30
Agree 100%.Posting on here is not necessarily emblematic of maturity, intellect or compassion. Those are earned-over-life commodities.

TDG55
03-08-17, 14:27
I go home every night down archer. And has always wanted to try it. Have a little overtime so if I'm going to try it nows the time. I am an African American if that makes a difference and 50+ any and all advice is welcome. Especially price. Thanks fellow mongers.

Walker333
03-08-17, 17:05
Agree 100%.I also agree with Bob, especially because provider's age is a matter of monger's taste. However, regardless of their age, current talent at Macau is not attractive.

In any case, I don't get what (+1) means.

E2304
03-08-17, 18:15
I am continuing to have difficulty finding a good intersection of massage skills: A good deep tissue massage with calming smoothness and a pleasant completion. My last two experiences were at AMPs known for Pleasant endings. The massage however was almost as if they were inexperienced with deep tissue. The quality of the massage remains my priority. Today I drove past green on Halsted but found no parking. So I stopped by elegant on grand. I called ahead for a deep tissue massage. I have previously read the forum. The off street parking previously described is gone. On the side of the building is parking reserved for pizza fans. Behind the building is fenced in.

I was greeted by three MT. A petite woman, possibly the youngest, was hunched over her phone sitting behind the desk. She never lifted her head or made eye contact with me. At the desk was the thirtyish fairly attractive lady of medium build. She verified my phone number and name for a ledger. I am presuming that this is to screen repeat business. There was a report from princess Thai about more nefarious reasons for this activity yet. I found out later that these two women were Claire who is reported as erotic but pricey, and Tina who is described as overpriced and less talented. **please chime in as to which one is Tina and Claire*.

The third woman, Grace, gave the Massage. She has a larger frame, plain face with antibiotic (stained teeth. She has not been reviewed IIRC. She was pleasant and friendly. Her Swedish / transition / Tease skills were quite good. The Finish was above average. The back walk was ungraceful and clunky. The only thing going for it was that she used her body weight to generate force. The first part of the deep tissue was clumsy as well, similar to my recently reported pricey experience with Jeanne at World. Door was 75 but don't remember getting change. (She also forgot my water so she may just be ditzy.) I tipped 60 for effort and no haggling. My exit was business like without any of the "come back soon honey" I am used to.

I think I got the "getting to know you" experience given some of the physicality during the Massage.

I would not repeat for grace but would like to hear more about Claire and how to recognize her.

E2304
03-08-17, 22:12
I was looking for change of pace. Called around noon for deep tissue. Told they were hooked up for 2 days. Olympus deferred. I hope they weren't red-lining me.

Rocket Dork
03-09-17, 01:00
Empty your inbox. Rocket Dork.

PwnLife
03-09-17, 01:42
I am continuing to have difficulty finding a good intersection of massage skills: A good deep tissue massage with calming smoothness and a pleasant completion. My last two experiences were at AMPs known for Pleasant endings. The massage however was almost as if they were inexperienced with deep tissue. The quality of the massage remains my priority. Today I drove past green on Halsted but found no parking. So I stopped by elegant on grand. I called ahead for a deep tissue massage. I have previously read the forum. The off street parking previously described is gone. On the side of the building is parking reserved for pizza fans. Behind the building is fenced in.

I was greeted by three MT. A petite woman, possibly the youngest, was hunched over her phone sitting behind the desk. She never lifted her head or made eye contact with me. At the desk was the thirtyish fairly attractive lady of medium build. She verified my phone number and name for a ledger. I am presuming that this is to screen repeat business. There was a report from princess Thai about more nefarious reasons for this activity yet. I found out later that these two women were Claire who is reported as erotic but pricey, and Tina who is described as overpriced and less talented. **please chime in as to which one is Tina and Claire*.

The third woman, Grace, gave the Massage. She has a larger frame, plain face with antibiotic (stained teeth. She has not been reviewed IIRC. She was pleasant and friendly. Her Swedish / transition / Tease skills were quite good. The Finish was above average. The back walk was ungraceful and clunky. The only thing going for it was that she used her body weight to generate force. The first part of the deep tissue was clumsy as well, similar to my recently reported pricey experience with Jeanne at World. Door was 75 but don't remember getting change. (She also forgot my water so she may just be ditzy.) I tipped 60 for effort and no haggling. My exit was business like without any of the "come back soon honey" I am used to.

I think I got the "getting to know you" experience given some of the physicality during the Massage.

I would not repeat for grace but would like to hear more about Claire and how to recognize her.Tina's the petite one. She has good backwalk, I've seen reviews of her having bad massage, but I think she's either gotten better or she maybe only does a good job on guys she likes (I think I'm in the like category).

PwnLife
03-09-17, 01:51
I go home every night down archer. And has always wanted to try it. Have a little overtime so if I'm going to try it nows the time. I am an African American if that makes a difference and 50+ any and all advice is welcome. Especially price. Thanks fellow mongers.Most of the ads for places down archer and chinatown say no AA. Maybe try to find one that will take you and become a regular. Tell them up front over the phone that you're AA and see if they'll take you so you don't waste your time. 50+ shouldn't be a problem. The Asian apartments in chinatown seem to take the house fee and no need to worry about extra tipping. The regular AMPs just seem to run your standard operating procedure house-fee+tip, and YMMV.

Bob521
03-09-17, 01:51
While it is by no means 100%, many Chinese women are afraid of African American men. My "Chinese wife", "L" is not that way, but I know others, who though seemingly enlightened, still demonstrate prejudice. Not dislike, really, but fear. I spent a lot of time trying to "teach" people to respect others and to judge them on their behavior rather than the color of their skin. Maybe growing up in a homogeneous ethnic group means they did not get to know other cultures. Anyway, your best advice will come from other African American members. To the extent your therapist has any lingering fear, try put them at ease. Come early. Go to places where there are multiple workers (vs one girl alone). Dress nicely. Be friendly and relaxed. Hopefully they will also relax. Get a 60 minute massage to give you both time to relax and get to know each other. Standard tip pricing is $20 for a good 60 minute massage w / o HE, $40 for He / $60 for Oral / and $100 for FS. Oral is not particularly common in Chinese places, and as a practical matter even FS is more likely for regular customers vs first timers. Read the forum since the advice is pretty applicable for any customer. Good luck. Bob.


I go home every night down archer. And has always wanted to try it. Have a little overtime so if I'm going to try it nows the time. I am an African American if that makes a difference and 50+ any and all advice is welcome. Especially price. Thanks fellow mongers.

GunnerMagnum
03-09-17, 12:36
Good for you going back to get a refund. I think the glory days of Pine Tree have come and gone. My last few visits there were lack luster and am in no hurry to go back.


I used to be a frequent visitor but haven't been there since the bust until last week. Things were looking pretty good. I drew "Lucky" she was OK, but not exactly attractive- call her plain (with a lot of makeup) Got a decent Table shower, went to room for massage and pretty much everything fell apart. Sparing the unnecessary details, she was quick to want to get to the tipping.

She asked for $ for a HE and $. 4 for FS and that's on top of the door fee. So for $$. 20 I get an crappy massage and FS with a plain girl. Much better deals elsewhere. I declined the service and asked for only massage. I got in my car and drove off. I look at the clock and realize I was in there less than 30 minutes. I turned around and went in to ask for a refund. After a lot of bitching they gave me back 1/2 the door fee. I made it clear that I wouldn't come back.

What was really freaky was after I left, a car with 3 asian men followed me out of the lot. I made several turns before they veered off. I decided to drive back to Pine Tree and guess who was sitting in the parking lot? Yeah the same 3 guys. I can't say it was related but mamasan picked up her cell phone while I was waiting for my refund.

Keep in mind, mamasan recognized me as a former regular. Never had issues in the past. I've been a hobbyist for 10 yrs so I know how to act when entering the spa. Definitely won't be going back.

OF Charlie
03-09-17, 17:19
I also agree with Bob, especially because provider's age is a matter of monger's taste. However, regardless of their age, current talent at Macau is not attractive.

In any case, I don't get what (+1) means.+1 just means you agree with the post. +2 means the person agrees with you (the +1 person) and the original poster.

Trailer12
03-09-17, 17:22
Tried this place and you know when you fill your car up and hope for really good service with premium gas. Well I ended up filling it up my self and it was regular gas at best. Instead of regular gas being octane 87, this was mid sixties at best. Cute gal, young but completely self service. The price was of course like premium.

Good luck.

E2304
03-10-17, 17:22
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/a1massage-and-service/40215792

A1 is frequent advertiser. It has active RM activity. Hard to search here but I find no entries. Was written up as nice HE Spa on some blog a couple years back. Anything to report? UTR or DOA?

JamesNoper
03-10-17, 17:56
Went to what was formerly Elegant Massage on Grand.

Great lineup here. Walked in, 2 beautiful girls sitting down and 1 older provider working the counter who I assumed was the mamasan. Paid for 30 minutes, went back, and then in walked in old gal! I wasn't happy with this.

I asked her if either of the other 2 girls were busy and I had one of them last time I came and she was great and I wanted to repeat (figured it was an easy way to let her off the hook).

But then she lied to me, told me the other 2 girls were "busy. " Bullshit, I saw them playing with their iPad 2 seconds ago liar. So I told her that's fine, go get my money back and I'll go somewhere else. She said "OK" and huffed out. Then I got dressed, and in walks one of the two girls. Then I had to undress again.

All went perfectly after that though. Girl's name was Saki. Not the best face in the world, but beautiful petite body. Paid $. For naked old fashioned. I know some of you will balk at that, but I'm paying for the girl not the service. Sure I could have gotten Suzy Oldhands for less, but I don't mind paying a little extra for a beautiful woman.

Walker333
03-11-17, 01:03
Went to what was formerly Elegant Massage on Grand.

Great lineup here. Walked in, 2 beautiful girls sitting down and 1 older provider working the counter who I assumed was the mamasan. Paid for 30 minutes, went back, and then in walked in old gal! I wasn't happy with this.

I asked her if either of the other 2 girls were busy and I had one of them last time I came and she was great and I wanted to repeat (figured it was an easy way to let her off the hook).

But then she lied to me, told me the other 2 girls were "busy. " Bullshit, I saw them playing with their iPad 2 seconds ago liar. So I told her that's fine, go get my money back and I'll go somewhere else. She said "OK" and huffed out. Then I got dressed, and in walks one of the two girls. Then I had to undress again.

All went perfectly after that though. Girl's name was Saki. Not the best face in the world, but beautiful petite body. Paid $. For naked old fashioned. I know some of you will balk at that, but I'm paying for the girl not the service. Sure I could have gotten Suzy Oldhands for less, but I don't mind paying a little extra for a beautiful woman.I think it was correct, and overall good, right move to demand service for your money that you expected to obtaine at the time when you paid.

It's your consumer's right.

Now speakers about price, each of us pays what we believe is fair unhder circumstances.

Bob521
03-12-17, 00:12
So the predictions a few of you made were true. We brought in additional people. They just don't compare. Mei ("L") has been swamped with business. To be more accurate, everyone conspires to arrive at the same time. Mei gives 200% of the energy of the average therapist. 400% of the energy of those who pretend to be massage therapists. So 4 or 5 90 minute massages back to back with no food and she can barely stand. Seven days a week. 11 hours a day.

Mei tried introducing our best customers to the "new girl" and nobody is satisfied. Mei gives (as many of you know) a super strong traditional Chinese acupressure massage. Forum Members can add their own comments. The new one gave a weak Swedish massage. Today two people walked out on the "new girl". If any of you tried the new one, please PM me and I will give you a half price massage with Mei.

With that preamble, if you know anyone who has excellent massage skills, let me know. Must be legit. Must have transportation. We are in Buffalo Grove Deerfield and Weiland, SW corner. Here's the website: http://massage0110.wixsite.com/sunshinehealthmassag Thanks in advance. Bob.

GunnerMagnum
03-12-17, 10:16
Good luck finding one Bob. Doesn't Mei know anyone good from the other places she worked?


So the predictions a few of you made were true. We brought in additional people. They just don't compare. Mei ("L") has been swamped with business. To be more accurate, everyone conspires to arrive at the same time. Mei gives 200% of the energy of the average therapist. 400% of the energy of those who pretend to be massage therapists. So 4 or 5 90 minute massages back to back with no food and she can barely stand. Seven days a week. 11 hours a day.

Mei tried introducing our best customers to the "new girl" and nobody is satisfied. Mei gives (as many of you know) a super strong traditional Chinese acupressure massage. Forum Members can add their own comments. The new one gave a weak Swedish massage. Today two people walked out on the "new girl". If any of you tried the new one, please PM me and I will give you a half price massage with Mei.

With that preamble, if you know anyone who has excellent massage skills, let me know. Must be legit. Must have transportation. We are in Buffalo Grove Deerfield and Weiland, SW corner. Here's the website: http://massage0110.wixsite.com/sunshinehealthmassag Thanks in advance. Bob.

Lurker01
03-12-17, 15:32
Bob.

If she's that good, raise prices. Do the math and determine how much to charge to make the same daily rate with one fewer massage. Then build in buffer time between clients. This will not only reduce her fatigue, but also weed out the chaff that are just using her up. If she's that busy, then a standard supply / demand equation is the solution. If a 2nd girl isn't as good, charge normal rates for her and premium rates for Mei. This gives incentive for cheapskates to give the 2nd girl business and incentive for the 2nd girl to improve enough to charge the premium rate. I've been to hair salons where the owner charged more, because he was simply that much better.


So the predictions a few of you made were true. We brought in additional people. They just don't compare. Mei ("L") has been swamped with business. To be more accurate, everyone conspires to arrive at the same time. Mei gives 200% of the energy of the average therapist. 400% of the energy of those who pretend to be massage therapists. So 4 or 5 90 minute massages back to back with no food and she can barely stand. Seven days a week. 11 hours a day.

Mei tried introducing our best customers to the "new girl" and nobody is satisfied. Mei gives (as many of you know) a super strong traditional Chinese acupressure massage. Forum Members can add their own comments. The new one gave a weak Swedish massage. Today two people walked out on the "new girl". If any of you tried the new one, please PM me and I will give you a half price massage with Mei.

With that preamble, if you know anyone who has excellent massage skills, let me know. Must be legit. Must have transportation. We are in Buffalo Grove Deerfield and Weiland, SW corner. Here's the website: http://massage0110.wixsite.com/sunshinehealthmassag Thanks in advance. Bob.

SmileySam
03-12-17, 15:48
So the predictions a few of you made were true. We brought in additional people. They just don't compare. Mei ("L") has been swamped with business. To be more accurate, everyone conspires to arrive at the same time. Mei gives 200% of the energy of the average therapist. 400% of the energy of those who pretend to be massage therapists. So 4 or 5 90 minute massages back to back with no food and she can barely stand. Seven days a week. 11 hours a day.Sounds like Mei is working very very hard. 7 days a week & 11 hours a day giving legit intense massages. Wow that must be brutal! She's going to burn out at that rate.

I would highly recommend she raise her rates. Her clientele should understand. Also maybe she can focus more on 30 min and 45 min massages and have breaks in between each massage.

Good luck!

GunnerMagnum
03-12-17, 15:49
I don't believe raising prices right now is the solution. The solution is to find a MP as good as Mei so Mei gets a break. I assume as time has went on and goes on the dik beaters / crotch grabbing clowns have been / will be weeded out.


Bob.

If she's that good, raise prices. Do the math and determine how much to charge to make the same daily rate with one fewer massage. Then build in buffer time between clients. This will not only reduce her fatigue, but also weed out the chaff that are just using her up. If she's that busy, then a standard supply / demand equation is the solution. If a 2nd girl isn't as good, charge normal rates for her and premium rates for Mei. This gives incentive for cheapskates to give the 2nd girl business and incentive for the 2nd girl to improve enough to charge the premium rate. I've been to hair salons where the owner charged more, because he was simply that much better.

E2304
03-12-17, 16:00
Sounds like Mei is working very very hard. 7 days a week & 11 hours a day giving legit intense massages. Wow that must be brutal! She's going to burn out at that rate.

I would highly recommend she raise her rates. Her clientele should understand. Also maybe she can focus more on 30 min and 45 min massages and have breaks in between each massage.

Good luck!First three rules of Medicine: eat, sleep, excrete. You cannot take care of patient if you don't take care of yourself.

I prefer my 90 minute with Mei. Very beneficial.

ReadyForRub
03-12-17, 16:54
So the predictions a few of you made were true. We brought in additional people. They just don't compare. Mei ("L") has been swamped with business. To be more accurate, everyone conspires to arrive at the same time. Mei gives 200% of the energy of the average therapist. 400% of the energy of those who pretend to be massage therapists. So 4 or 5 90 minute massages back to back with no food and she can barely stand. Seven days a week. 11 hours a day.

Mei tried introducing our best customers to the "new girl" and nobody is satisfied. Mei gives (as many of you know) a super strong traditional Chinese acupressure massage. Forum Members can add their own comments. The new one gave a weak Swedish massage. Today two people walked out on the "new girl". If any of you tried the new one, please PM me and I will give you a half price massage with Mei.

With that preamble, if you know anyone who has excellent massage skills, let me know. Must be legit. Must have transportation. We are in Buffalo Grove Deerfield and Weiland, SW corner. Here's the website: http://massage0110.wixsite.com/sunshinehealthmassag Thanks in advance. Bob.I don't know a legit MT, but your pricing doesn't look right.

90 minutes $79.95 $10.00 too low.

60 minutes $49.95 $10.00 too low.

30 minutes $29.95 30 minutes shouldn't be offered. Legit needs some time. All 30 minutes will do is get you off at a discount.

The $0. 95 pricing might fool 'them at the discount stores, but people looking for a legit massage know they are NOT going to get $0. 05 in change.

Bob521
03-12-17, 19:03
Pricing:

Mei and I deliberately set the price $10 below market to get people "in the door" to build up a customer base. At some point we will change pricing. Maybe some legacy deals for our long-term customers. I started advertising in January and it had a major impact on business. CL, BP, FB, Google, and Yelp. Also a loyalty card. I was nervous about advertising until I had more people to fill in the gaps. Part of the problem is the "lumpy" flow of business. Yesterday (Saturday) we had 8 customers for Mei and another woman. Today, nobody has come in at all (yet). Maybe I should have "rush hour pricing" or a $60 "walk in" vs a $50 "appointment rate". Appointments help us manage the business and the staffing, plus I can add clients to the contact database. I also want to continue to give a good price to our loyal customers. A final observation is that most of our regulars give Mei a good tip, thus equalizing the apparent low price. I agree 30 minutes is too short for a real massage. Actually, Mei's idea of 30 minutes is 40 minutes. 60 minutes is 70 minutes. And 90 minutes is 100 minutes. I keep telling her to stick to the actual time and she will help herself. I'm not worried about $49.95 and of course everybody understands. Exxon does it also. LOL.

We have a man who is excellent and helps the female clients and a woman who is also excellent but has limited time. Hence the need for a new worker who can fill in for Mei. She needs rest and also a day off each week.


Sounds like Mei is working very very hard. 7 days a week & 11 hours a day giving legit intense massages. Wow that must be brutal! She's going to burn out at that rate.

I would highly recommend she raise her rates. Her clientele should understand. Also maybe she can focus more on 30 min and 45 min massages and have breaks in between each massage.

Good luck!

Lurker01
03-14-17, 09:47
So you are overworking your best CMT while undercharging to ensure the pace does not lighten?

You are eating your seed corn.


Pricing:

Mei and I deliberately set the price $10 below market to get people "in the door" to build up a customer base. At some point we will change pricing. Maybe some legacy deals for our long-term customers. I started advertising in January and it had a major impact on business. CL, BP, FB, Google, and Yelp. Also a loyalty card. I was nervous about advertising until I had more people to fill in the gaps. Part of the problem is the "lumpy" flow of business. Yesterday (Saturday) we had 8 customers for Mei and another woman. Today, nobody has come in at all (yet). Maybe I should have "rush hour pricing" or a $60 "walk in" vs a $50 "appointment rate". Appointments help us manage the business and the staffing, plus I can add clients to the contact database. I also want to continue to give a good price to our loyal customers. A final observation is that most of our regulars give Mei a good tip, thus equalizing the apparent low price. I agree 30 minutes is too short for a real massage. Actually, Mei's idea of 30 minutes is 40 minutes. 60 minutes is 70 minutes. And 90 minutes is 100 minutes. I keep telling her to stick to the actual time and she will help herself. I'm not worried about $49.95 and of course everybody understands. Exxon does it also. LOL.

We have a man who is excellent and helps the female clients and a woman who is also excellent but has limited time. Hence the need for a new worker who can fill in for Mei. She needs rest and also a day off each week.

GunnerMagnum
03-14-17, 09:54
That's why I said find another MT. I think the price is an introductory rate and would go to "normal" price structure at some point. Bob, the task master, LOL.


So you are overworking your best CMT while undercharging to ensure the pace does not lighten?

You are eating your seed corn.

E2304
03-14-17, 10:27
So you are overworking your best CMT while undercharging to ensure the pace does not lighten?

You are eating your seed corn.Mei is proud, honest, strong and independent. Change takes time. This is a start up with growing pains. They are also looking for another 4-leaf clover to hire. Not an easy thing. This is Mei's business. Burnout is a concern.

Bob: feed the girl please.

"Pigs get fat. Hogs get slaughtered. ".

- proverb.

E2304
03-14-17, 10:47
Had a lovely deep tissue Massage on the north side by a hard working MT who worked up a sweat by the end. While working on my back she paused, took a cleansing breath, and told me that I smell wonderfully. (I showered the night before and use deodorant appropriately.) she made a disgusted sound and told me of her other client. On my way out I saw a monger in the foyer hunched over in his parka. It was 30' outside and sunny. He looked like a homeless Jerry Garcia.

As mentioned by others it doesn't take much for us to be presentable. Clean, Polite, pay. We expect much. We should be deserving.

End of rant.

Bob521
03-14-17, 10:55
We've got to do something. That's why I reached out to the forum. Not that it matters, but I'm trying to get her to take time off, reduce hours, etc. We had hoped the other worker would help, but she was simply not a good enough MT. I don't know how to get Mei to keep a 60 minute massage at 60 instead of 70 minutes. There are a couple Chinese LMTs we could use, but Mei is not satisfied with them. I do think a price increase is due. It was always our intent to make it a temporary introductory price. I'm really considering the existing price for appointments and the increased price for walk-ins. But that could backfire and piss people off. Other ideas are welcome, of course. Bob.


So you are overworking your best CMT while undercharging to ensure the pace does not lighten?

You are eating your seed corn.

OF Charlie
03-14-17, 18:17
We've got to do something. That's why I reached out to the forum. Not that it matters, but I'm trying to get her to take time off, reduce hours, etc. We had hoped the other worker would help, but she was simply not a good enough MT. I don't know how to get Mei to keep a 60 minute massage at 60 instead of 70 minutes. There are a couple Chinese LMTs we could use, but Mei is not satisfied with them. I do think a price increase is due. It was always our intent to make it a temporary introductory price. I'm really considering the existing price for appointments and the increased price for walk-ins. But that could backfire and piss people off. Other ideas are welcome, of course. Bob.I don't have solution for you Bob since you already know that the solution is to get more capable LMTs. Just a couple of comments.

1) I would not price discriminate between people who make appt vs walk ins. Once people know that, no one is going to do walk in. While it might help with appt scheduling, it does not solve your underlying issue of Mei getting burned out.

2) Maybe stop advertising for a couple of weeks as it sounds like you have enough business for now anyway.

3) Add a referral program. For each new client a guy sends, he gets $10 off on his next visit. Each quarter, the guy who sends the most people wins a prize. My dentist does this and it's very effective.

GunnerMagnum
03-14-17, 19:41
Good advice!


I don't have solution for you Bob since you already know that the solution is to get more capable LMTs. Just a couple of comments.

1) I would not price discriminate between people who make appt vs walk ins. Once people know that, no one is going to do walk in. While it might help with appt scheduling, it does not solve your underlying issue of Mei getting burned out.

2) Maybe stop advertising for a couple of weeks as it sounds like you have enough business for now anyway.

3) Add a referral program. For each new client a guy sends, he gets $10 off on his next visit. Each quarter, the guy who sends the most people wins a prize. My dentist does this and it's very effective.

BonerLander
03-14-17, 21:09
Had a lovely deep tissue Massage on the north side by a hard working MT who worked up a sweat by the end. While working on my back she paused, took a cleansing breath, and told me that I smell wonderfully. (I showered the night before and use deodorant appropriately.) she made a disgusted sound and told me of her other client. On my way out I saw a monger in the foyer hunched over in his parka. It was 30' outside and sunny. He looked like a homeless Jerry Garcia.

As mentioned by others it doesn't take much for us to be presentable. Clean, Polite, pay. We expect much. We should be deserving.

End of rant.Hell, I make sure I've shaved, put on cologne and make sure I'm fresh as possible. If I've sweat between leaving the house and the massage, I'll either get the table shower upfront or ask to use the shower first.

Bob521
03-14-17, 22:11
That's very sound advice. I will follow it. We do have a part time American woman who is very capable. An American man, also part time, who is also good (for women) and we will meet somebody new on Saturday.

I also meant to follow up on something Lurker said: Eating my own seed corn. Perhaps Mei is eating the corn since she won't take time off. But I'm not eating. I gave her the store and do various accounting, legal, marketing and handyman tasks. I take no share of any profits. It was never about money for me. I just want her to have a good life. Bob.


I don't have solution for you Bob since you already know that the solution is to get more capable LMTs. Just a couple of comments.

1) I would not price discriminate between people who make appt vs walk ins. Once people know that, no one is going to do walk in. While it might help with appt scheduling, it does not solve your underlying issue of Mei getting burned out.

2) Maybe stop advertising for a couple of weeks as it sounds like you have enough business for now anyway.

3) Add a referral program. For each new client a guy sends, he gets $10 off on his next visit. Each quarter, the guy who sends the most people wins a prize. My dentist does this and it's very effective.

MrSmartyPants
03-14-17, 23:37
I don't know a legit MT, but your pricing doesn't look right.

90 minutes $79.95 $10.00 too low.

60 minutes $49.95 $10.00 too low.

30 minutes $29.95 30 minutes shouldn't be offered. Legit needs some time. All 30 minutes will do is get you off at a discount.

The $0. 95 pricing might fool 'them at the discount stores, but people looking for a legit massage know they are NOT going to get $0. 05 in change.Yes, (for your area anyway) you're a bit on the low side. I get most of my massages in Wisconsin (Milwaukee / Racine / Kenosha) where the rates are significantly lower than IL, especially if you know where to look. (My favorite legit place is $44/ hr, $60/90, and $74/2 hours, and most of girls are excellent, but it's almost an hour drive.) But I assume rent and taxes are way higher in IL so I don't know how feasible it is staying a little below the others.

On the other hand your slightly lower door pricing DOES get some of us in the door who might not make the drive to BG otherwise.

Wish I knew HOW my Milwaukee place keeps finding really good MT's. One of my favorites there (a young one with a too-boyish haircut) came from Las Vegas, because she WANTED to see snow. She's fantastic and mixes in a bunch of Thai moves as well.

Also agree that most tip better when door fee is lower. (& when they know the MT is Bob's girlfriend and don't want to look like a cheap schmuck.).

Oh. Yes. Drop the. 95 thing and just make it even dollars. Just because I say so, and it's a OCD oriented pet peeve of mine, LOL.

LoveDDs
03-15-17, 07:12
I've been trying for 3 days to reach the Sunny's List Asian ladies and no answer. I know they've been around a long time because there are hundreds of reviews on TER for them, but right now I can not get them on the phone. Anyone have any idea what the deal is?

Paleface
03-15-17, 17:41
Hell, I make sure I've shaved, put on cologne and make sure I'm fresh as possible. If I've sweat between leaving the house and the massage, I'll either get the table shower upfront or ask to use the shower first.I like these remarks. I would throw in some breath mints. Do your laundry. That t-shirt you've been sleeping in for week might smell okay to you, but it's not so pleasant to anyone downwind of you. Don't forget the shampoo. Your shoes stink, even if you don't know it. Forget about your socks.

We really need to be respectful of these girls. No need to state the many reasons why.

GunnerMagnum
03-15-17, 17:49
The lady at a place I was going for a while always mentioned that she appreciated how clean I was. She told me if a guy smells she gets a hot towel and cleans him up and does not mention why.


Hell, I make sure I've shaved, put on cologne and make sure I'm fresh as possible. If I've sweat between leaving the house and the massage, I'll either get the table shower upfront or ask to use the shower first.

Frogger7777
03-17-17, 10:35
Hey guys. Can anyone recommend a younger masseuse who works out of her house in or near the northwest suburbs? I've gone to Silvia. Love the setup, and she's nice enough, but she's older than I prefer (I'm in my mid-30's). Would prefer a provider near my own age. PM if you want to keep on the down low.

Magooski
03-17-17, 13:40
The lady at a place I was going for a while always mentioned that she appreciated how clean I was. She told me if a guy smells she gets a hot towel and cleans him up and does not mention why.Sylvio said it best years ago! When getting ready to visit a spa, treat it as if you're going on an actual date. Stinky unclean guys are a turn off for most ladies! If you hope to go for gold, you have to be prepared. Don't stink and don't be a jerk. It's always worked well for me!

Wenger
03-18-17, 06:52
Sylvio said it best years ago! When getting ready to visit a spa, treat it as if you're going on an actual date. Stinky unclean guys are a turn off for most ladies! If you hope to go for gold, you have to be prepared. Don't stink and don't be a jerk. It's always worked well for me!And if it's not an option to go before work, make sure to take the shower option first. And if it's a standup shower, ask them to help. Always works out best for me and sets the tone in a positive light.

-w.

Casper27
03-19-17, 15:27
Is a paid membership worth it?

Avg Joe
03-19-17, 15:33
Is a paid membership worth it?Not in my opinion.

A few years ago I was a paying member there and after visiting several reviewed establishments I found that some of the reviews were just not true. I have always found better and more reliable information here at USASG.

AJ.

Toe Knee
03-19-17, 16:10
Not in my opinion.

A few years ago I was a paying member there and after visiting several reviewed establishments I found that some of the reviews were just not true. I have always found better and more reliable information here at USASG.

AJ.Exactly. Once I discovered USASG I pretty much canceled my membership.

GunnerMagnum
03-19-17, 18:17
Absolutely not. To many clowns on there who do fake reviews. The funniest one I saw was someone went to Geneva spa and clearly stated the only parking was on the street. Anyone whose been knows the parking lot is huge. He got called out on it. The forums are even more ridiculous as they are not moderated.


Is a paid membership worth it?

Confucius
03-19-17, 18:25
Is a paid membership worth it?I was also a member for a year.

If you like fake reviews. Not all, and comedians in training who hijack your threads and impose their useless will on you and what you say, then this is the place for you.

Guys from all over the country have access to anything you say and some of them try to be humorous but are really not funny at all.

Their personalities are birth control.

I would never join that place again.

E6671
03-19-17, 19:48
Not in my opinion.

A few years ago I was a paying member there and after visiting several reviewed establishments I found that some of the reviews were just not true. I have always found better and more reliable information here at USASG.

AJ.I second that. When I first started researching to start in this hobby I also had signed up for Rub Maps. I found most of the information old and outdated. What I like most about USAG is the wealth of information here if you take the time to read. When I have decided to venture out when traveling for work I will read up on the local board for a couple weeks before. Also I have learned so much from the SUPER SENIORS here over the years. You won't get that from the other sites.

StanleyStankas
03-19-17, 20:31
I second that. When I first started researching to start in this hobby I also had signed up for Rub Maps. I found most of the information old and outdated. What I like most about USAG is the wealth of information here if you take the time to read. When I have decided to venture out when traveling for work I will read up on the local board for a couple weeks before. Also I have learned so much from the SUPER SENIORS here over the years. You won't get that from the other sites.The interaction here is key! Information extremely helpful of course, however the communication with established members is perfect-imo. Other sites like listcrawler I find non productive (even though it is a BP placement of sorts). I have left comments with questions and they just sit there w / no answers. Plus I like this site here better than eccie as well. I don't like forums where you ask a question or make a comment and the regulars are all over you for dumb sh*t like "why don't you paragraph", etc. My comment would be why don't you get a life? I have had very valid points and valued additions to certain sites but I got shot down over non paragraphing! It's an f and free forum! Thanks for all that help here. Many have connected on pm with me as well.

Jtacci
03-20-17, 17:23
So, at what pLace did you get your massage a few weeks ago?

You may PM.Can you PM your suggestions?

CafeRaceritali
03-20-17, 23:00
I took a trip out to a Thai Massage place I found on Chicago, about a block from the Brown line. Used to be Lang's Ocean massage. Anyway, went in, was asked name. The girl seemed surprised that I showed up without calling first. She took me to the massage room and I asked for a table shower. She said no table shower, then made it clear that "we ONLY offer massage. " When she told me there was no table shower, I asked for my money back and left. Was a legit place. I'm sure the massage would have been outstanding. I did not stick around to find out.

Walker333
03-21-17, 18:00
Can you PM your suggestions?IMO people here start with reporting, and not with the question in the very first tread. Moreover, I assume that philosophy behind this site is not just information exchange, but rather contribution of each member to the whole community of members.

ChicagoCat99
03-21-17, 22:50
Today, I checked massage section in backpage.

Surprisingly, most of prices are much higher than $65 an hour there.

And, then, I found one ad showing $60 for 45 minutes and set up appointment for 7:00 pm.

When I was at the address, I found covered door as if it's in construction.

When I knocked the door, one nice latina came out.

Her name was Luna and prettiest and youngers (26) therapist so far.

Her massage was hard, but my towel went away in 10 minutes.

When she massaged my hands, she put them between her breasts.

(The biggest breasts I have ever had so far.).

Then, she asked me flip over.

I put towel on my belly since it was a bit cold.

She looked at my penis, but massaged me everywhere.

Then, she whispered, "We can have some fun for $50. ".

I told her that I have $40 and she smiled "OK".

(I brought $100 total.).

She used lotion to erect my penis. Then, she used oil to play with it.

She put one breast out and I sucked all along.

(It was like my head size.).

Nice finish. She was happy since I was obedient and we had nice hug.

She had more likely white American face than latina. Definitely I will be back since 4-5 girls there as well.

P.S. :

This photo was really her.

It was rare someone looks better than photo.

Facility was not that great.

Traffic sound.

Crowded with 4-5 girls.

No covered ceiling in the room.

Like half built facility.

Dr Manhattan
03-22-17, 00:15
Hoping into my way-back machine with this question. Does anyone remember a place that may have been called "Holistic Massage," 10 minutes north of the Loop?

(This is at least 15 years ago).

Run by an Asian woman named Janet, who would hire attractive European and Latin American college students for massage. Is that place, or some incarnation of it, still around? It would be nice to get some FBSM from a college student without it being an SB / SD investment.

Walker333
03-22-17, 09:05
Today, I checked massage section in backpage.

Surprisingly, most of prices are much higher than $65 an hour there.

And, then, I found one ad showing $60 for 45 minutes and set up appointment for 7:00 pm.

When I was at the address, I found covered door as if it's in construction.

When I knocked the door, one nice latina came out.

Her name was Luna and prettiest and youngers (26) therapist so far.

Her massage was hard, but my towel went away in 10 minutes.

When she massaged my hands, she put them between her breasts.

(The biggest breasts I have ever had so far.).

Then, she asked me flip over.

I put towel on my belly since it was a bit cold.

She looked at my penis, but massaged me everywhere.

Then, she whispered, "We can have some fun for $50. ".

I told her that I have $40 and she smiled "OK".

(I brought $100 total.).

She used lotion to erect my penis. Then, she used oil to play with it.

She put one breast out and I sucked all along.

(It was like my head size.).

Nice finish. She was happy since I was obedient and we had nice hug.

She had more likely white American face than latina. Definitely I will be back since 4-5 girls there as well.

P.S. :

This photo was really her.

It was rare someone looks better than photo.

Facility was not that great.

Traffic sound.

Crowded with 4-5 girls.

No covered ceiling in the room.

Like half built facility.Is this MP or an apartment?

Stagebandman
03-23-17, 02:03
Does anyone know what happened to Denise whose website was "I Pamper You" from Bartlett? A big girl (but then, I'm a big guy), but I had a good relationship with her about 3 times a year. Then a couple of years ago she disappeared. Any clues as to where she is now?

Popcans
03-23-17, 14:06
Does anyone know what happened to Denise whose website was "I Pamper You" from Bartlett? A big girl (but then, I'm a big guy), but I had a good relationship with her about 3 times a year. Then a couple of years ago she disappeared. Any clues as to where she is now?Moved to Texas. I did find her on facebook, a year or so ago.

CougarBait
03-24-17, 14:58
Anyone been to see these ladies recently? Haven't been in years, but always had a fantastic time when I did partake.I just finished a session with Maria at Logan and my God this girl is MY total package. Maybe not everyone else's, but literally the girl of my dreams.

She came out in tight jeans and a short t-shirt with her belly exposed. Her hair is dyed an unnatural red which I absolutely love. She's got her tongue pierced as well as several other piercings on other parts of her body.

She has numerous tattoos at all sorts of different places.

She's 5'2, 115, little spinner.

She is thin but her body is a little soft and her small tits are a little droopy. So she doesn't have that banging' tight body of an 18 year old, but she's still sexy as hell.

Her face is absolutely gorgeous.

She does offer BBBJ but no CIM or COF. I did not inquire about FS.

ChicagoCat99
03-25-17, 02:06
I just finished a session with Maria at Logan and my God this girl is MY total package. Maybe not everyone else's, but literally the girl of my dreams.

She came out in tight jeans and a short t-shirt with her belly exposed. Her hair is dyed an unnatural red which I absolutely love. She's got her tongue pierced as well as several other piercings on other parts of her body.

She has numerous tattoos at all sorts of different places.

She's 5'2, 115, little spinner.

She is thin but her body is a little soft and her small tits are a little droopy. So she doesn't have that banging' tight body of an 18 year old, but she's still sexy as hell.

Her face is absolutely gorgeous.

She does offer BBBJ but no CIM or COF. I did not inquire about FS.Thank you very much for sharing.

Personally, I do not like a person with tattoo or piercing.

Let me skip logan square.

Walker333
03-25-17, 09:47
I just finished a session with Maria at Logan and my God this girl is MY total package. Maybe not everyone else's, but literally the girl of my dreams.

She came out in tight jeans and a short t-shirt with her belly exposed. Her hair is dyed an unnatural red which I absolutely love. She's got her tongue pierced as well as several other piercings on other parts of her body.

She has numerous tattoos at all sorts of different places.

She's 5'2, 115, little spinner.

She is thin but her body is a little soft and her small tits are a little droopy. So she doesn't have that banging' tight body of an 18 year old, but she's still sexy as hell.

Her face is absolutely gorgeous.

She does offer BBBJ but no CIM or COF. I did not inquire about FS.What was the damage?

Chicago2342
03-25-17, 17:02
Been busy lately, still haven't taken the full dive over to the other side, but went to Dragon this past Sunday.

It's a little north of the city. 65 door fee. I saw a more attractive mp when walking in (Emily, found out later for those trying) but she was in a session, told me to try older looking MP. She wasn't that bad looking. Massage was legit, walking on back, felt to me like it lasted a good 45.

Now what I will say about this woman was she couldn't speak much english but man. She provided the most ass play I've had without ever paying for a prostate massage. If it's not your thing, I get it. But it was a lot of fun. On flip, took direction well, at one point told me to calm down and relax while she went to work. More was avail, didn't try. Got TS added at end for 10 more. Total damage $. 35 ish. I'll probably go back to try to get Emily sometime soon.

Can any Seniors or even regs that have tried give me some detail on the youwannasee me chicks (I. E. Price / screen / service).

Thanks.

BabyBoy2013
03-25-17, 17:12
Had a dream that I stopped off at a spa on Ashland south of Diverey. Usually asian chicks are working there but I was told a Latina was working so I gave her a try. She was cute in her 20's body was decent thick thighs still nice to look at. Massage was ok she just used too much oil. Was given the option for standard. 6 or $ for topless. Nothing else was offered. Settled on. 4. although she was friendly and cute her prices were too pricey. She's only there on the weekends, stay safe gents.

Iamslobbyist
03-25-17, 19:35
What was the damage?I had a similar positive experience with Maria. I also gave her a massage followed by DATY, FIV, and DATO. The damage was $260.00. $100.00 above the $160.00, which I think is ridiculous. It was a great experience, but too expensive. I have gotten FS and BBJ before in the past with no extra charge in the past although I did tip. Maria is hot and awesome, but there are better options out there.

E2304
03-26-17, 13:23
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/asian-touch-in-naperville/50739112

Saw this today for first time. The name is similar ("foot" added to name.) Photos and ad copy are a close imitation or emulation. Different town. With all the negative news coming from the old growth forest I wonder if this is an expansion by current management (bad news), a new place by old management (good news? Or cheap imitation. It's too far to just TOFFT.

BabyBoy2013
03-26-17, 18:50
Been busy lately, still haven't taken the full dive over to the other side, but went to Dragon this past Sunday.

It's a little north of the city. 65 door fee. I saw a more attractive mp when walking in (Emily, found out later for those trying) but she was in a session, told me to try older looking MP. She wasn't that bad looking. Massage was legit, walking on back, felt to me like it lasted a good 45.

Now what I will say about this woman was she couldn't speak much english but man. She provided the most ass play I've had without ever paying for a prostate massage. If it's not your thing, I get it. But it was a lot of fun. On flip, took direction well, at one point told me to calm down and relax while she went to work. More was avail, didn't try. Got TS added at end for 10 more. Total damage $. 35 ish. I'll probably go back to try to get Emily sometime soon.

Can any Seniors or even regs that have tried give me some detail on the youwannasee me chicks (I. E. Price / screen / service).

Thanks.Gave this place a shot and in my dream I was greeted by the older masseuse and in my opinion I preferred her to the younger girl. She had a nice slim cougar body. Good massage with some back walking. A fun time was had. Never been sprayed down with alcohol before LOL too funny. Still a decent session. Seniors pm me for more details.

HenriLeon
03-26-17, 19:40
Today, I checked massage section in backpage.

Surprisingly, most of prices are much higher than $65 an hour there.

And, then, I found one ad showing $60 for 45 minutes and set up appointment for 7:00 pm.

When I was at the address, I found covered door as if it's in construction.

When I knocked the door, one nice latina came out.

Her name was Luna and prettiest and youngers (26) therapist so far.

Her massage was hard, but my towel went away in 10 minutes.

When she massaged my hands, she put them between her breasts.

.Sounds great, do you think she was open for more if you had brought more. ?

Also where is that place?

BonerLander
03-27-17, 01:31
Is a paid membership worth it?I'll join in with the others and say no. Too many fake reviews with fake names. Also, none of them know previous spas like on here.

GogglesPizzano
03-27-17, 10:09
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/asian-touch-in-naperville/50739112

Saw this today for first time. The name is similar ("foot" added to name.) Photos and ad copy are a close imitation or emulation. Different town. With all the negative news coming from the old growth forest I wonder if this is an expansion by current management (bad news), a new place by old management (good news? Or cheap imitation. It's too far to just TOFFT.From my experience the one time I was there plus other reviews I have read, this is a legit only place. Massage was great, but that was all. Rooms are separated by a curtain between them.

Goggles.

ChgoJJ
03-27-17, 13:56
Does anyone know what happened to Denise whose website was "I Pamper You" from Bartlett? A big girl (but then, I'm a big guy), but I had a good relationship with her about 3 times a year. Then a couple of years ago she disappeared. Any clues as to where she is now?Denise moved to Texas and is now deceased.

Casper27
03-27-17, 13:59
Is there anyone who you guys would recommend at princess spa on Milwaukee Ave. Looking to get a massage with some stretching. The last time I visited I got a mediocre rub and surprised by the HJ I got on the flip.

Emiglio
03-27-17, 14:18
Denise moved to Texas and is now deceased.She was a fun, kind Lady. Bless her!!

Vern2020
03-27-17, 20:06
Been busy lately, still haven't taken the full dive over to the other side, but went to Dragon this past Sunday.

It's a little north of the city. 65 door fee. I saw a more attractive mp when walking in (Emily, found out later for those trying) but she was in a session, told me to try older looking MP. She wasn't that bad looking. Massage was legit, walking on back, felt to me like it lasted a good 45.

Now what I will say about this woman was she couldn't speak much english but man. She provided the most ass play I've had without ever paying for a prostate massage. If it's not your thing, I get it. But it was a lot of fun. On flip, took direction well, at one point told me to calm down and relax while she went to work. More was avail, didn't try. Got TS added at end for 10 more. Total damage $. 35 ish. I'll probably go back to try to get Emily sometime soon.

Can any Seniors or even regs that have tried give me some detail on the youwannasee me chicks (I. E. Price / screen / service).

Thanks.I enjoyed the older MP at Dragon, as well. Would recommend. Also, I like youwannasee. Cost runs between 180 and 240 depending on the girl. Service is always good. Maybe not the best in the world, but good value for the cost. Girls range in age from 26-40 I would say.

Lokkin4
03-28-17, 11:48
Are we talking about the one on Grand? Don't go at night cause Fugly and Ugly are working then. She made a small scene about me not tipping. 60. I told you're out of your mind and walked out. Never to return.


Went to what was formerly Elegant Massage on Grand.

Great lineup here. Walked in, 2 beautiful girls sitting down and 1 older provider working the counter who I assumed was the mamasan. Paid for 30 minutes, went back, and then in walked in old gal! I wasn't happy with this.

I asked her if either of the other 2 girls were busy and I had one of them last time I came and she was great and I wanted to repeat (figured it was an easy way to let her off the hook).

But then she lied to me, told me the other 2 girls were "busy. " Bullshit, I saw them playing with their iPad 2 seconds ago liar. So I told her that's fine, go get my money back and I'll go somewhere else. She said "OK" and huffed out. Then I got dressed, and in walks one of the two girls. Then I had to undress again.

All went perfectly after that though. Girl's name was Saki. Not the best face in the world, but beautiful petite body. Paid $. For naked old fashioned. I know some of you will balk at that, but I'm paying for the girl not the service. Sure I could have gotten Suzy Oldhands for less, but I don't mind paying a little extra for a beautiful woman.

Angai
03-28-17, 17:06
So I was at the gym working out last night and I see Pine Tree Spa in the news!

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/3-arrested-prostitution-willowbrook-pine-tree-spa-417231353.html

Captain1954
03-29-17, 13:02
She was a fun, kind Lady. Bless her!!Funny a review for her was posted on MPr a couple of days ago giving an address in Streamwood could be fake I have not checked.

ChicagoCat99
03-29-17, 13:21
https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/thp/6064676354.html

Has anyone tried this?

ChgoJJ
03-29-17, 13:39
https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/thp/6064676354.html

Has anyone tried this?BradID24 Grace is legit. Has Big Tits but you can't touch them and no extras are availabe unless she has changed in recent years.

ChicagoCat99
03-29-17, 13:47
BradID24 Grace is legit. Has Big Tits but you can't touch them and no extras are availabe unless she has changed in recent years.Thank you very much for your help.

Have you tried once?

Sometimes, they change after multiple visits.

Walker333
03-29-17, 16:25
Thank you very much for your help.

Have you tried once?

Sometimes, they change after multiple visits.IMO (and based on my experience) they all change and finally make us happy, after certain number of visits, and, if we demonstrate some friendliness and a little attention. It's just matter of time, because at the end they want repeated business. If they consider you as a good, valuable client-asset, they wouldn't want to loose you (or steady income) over a simple HE.

Sometimes we loose our interest sooner than they loose their mental virginity, but if a client is persistent and patient, eventually he will be happy.

Anyone disagree?

ReadyForRub
03-29-17, 17:20
IMO (and based on my experience) they all change and finally make us happy, after certain number of visits, and, if we demonstrate some friendliness and a little attention. It's just matter of time, because at the end they want repeated business. If they consider you as a good, valuable client-asset, they wouldn't want to loose you (or steady income) over a simple HE.

Sometimes we loose our interest sooner than they loose their mental virginity, but if a client is persistent and patient, eventually he will be happy.

Anyone disagree?Are you in it for a possible relationship, or are you simply looking for some service? If you visit a barber shop, and get a bad haircut, do you return in anticipation something will change? How much are money are you ready to invest for the opportunity to get off?

ChgoJJ
03-29-17, 18:21
IMO (and based on my experience) they all change and finally make us happy, after certain number of visits, and, if we demonstrate some friendliness and a little attention. It's just matter of time, because at the end they want repeated business. If they consider you as a good, valuable client-asset, they wouldn't want to loose you (or steady income) over a simple HE.

Sometimes we loose our interest sooner than they loose their mental virginity, but if a client is persistent and patient, eventually he will be happy.

Anyone disagree?I paid her several vists years ago and she wasn't budging for me so I took my money elsewhere.

There are too many providers that provide HE for me to waste my time and money trying to get a HE out of one who isn't willing to play.

BReyes
03-29-17, 20:42
Are you in it for a possible relationship, or are you simply looking for some service? If you visit a barber shop, and get a bad haircut, do you return in anticipation something will change? How much are money are you ready to invest for the opportunity to get off?I'm not willing to give a second chance if the first chance isn't even close but that's just me. There's too many options to reward bad behavior IMHO.

Walker333
03-29-17, 21:01
Are you in it for a possible relationship, or are you simply looking for some service? If you visit a barber shop, and get a bad haircut, do you return in anticipation something will change? How much are money are you ready to invest for the opportunity to get off?I didn't anticipat or wanted any emotional connection, just pure business. I would not compare it to a barber shop because in massage (as long as it not therapeutic) there is always presence of some level of sensuality. As we both know, men are aroused during the process even without any testing, and all mts know that.

So, basically, the mt just adds some little touch of pleasure at the end, to preserve her cash flow.

It might not happen on the first couple of sessions, and, the issue cost / benefits is always present.

I know hobbyists that completely disregard the financial aspects, because their satisfaction just is to get "it" from the mt that is known for not giving it.

Head First
03-29-17, 23:30
I know hobbyists that completely disregard the financial aspects, because their satisfaction just is to get "it" from the mt that is known for not giving it.I'm one of those guys. A while back I was going to an mt at her house. It was a nice setup downstairs that even had a shower. I could tell I wasn't her first client. Her ad didn't have any of the keywords we look for but still I made an appt.

Show up to find a very attractive 35 ish Asian MILF. Down into the room where I get under the sheet. She gave me a very legit massage with no teasing or even a hint.

Okay. No problem. Now that I know what the deal is it's up to me if I want to make another appt.

A week later I do and it's the same routine. I'm still attracted to her and the fact that her hubby was working in his home office right outside the room made me both nervous and excited. I made more appts. Gambling on the fact that she was Asian and married, and I was laying naked on her table, hoping for a hint of fun.

Nothing ever happened so eventually I stopped going.

Worst case was I still got a very relaxing massage so it wasn't hard earned down the drain.

Point is it wasn't about the HE, it was about turning good girl into bad girl. Especially with the hubby there right outside the room every time.

Sometimes you win, sometimes you learn.

Rico Forty
03-29-17, 23:43
Funny a review for her was posted on MPr a couple of days ago giving an address in Streamwood could be fake I have not checked.Definitely Fake. She used to reply to my emails but hasn't in a couple years. I can't confirm she passed away. If so RIP. She was a great lady.

ChicagoCat99
03-30-17, 01:53
IMO (and based on my experience) they all change and finally make us happy, after certain number of visits, and, if we demonstrate some friendliness and a little attention. It's just matter of time, because at the end they want repeated business. If they consider you as a good, valuable client-asset, they wouldn't want to loose you (or steady income) over a simple HE.

Sometimes we loose our interest sooner than they loose their mental virginity, but if a client is persistent and patient, eventually he will be happy.

Anyone disagree?I am sure this is the case.

Sometimes, they do it at first time when it's too obvious he is not a police or anything.

ChicagoCat99
03-30-17, 01:59
Are you in it for a possible relationship, or are you simply looking for some service? If you visit a barber shop, and get a bad haircut, do you return in anticipation something will change? How much are money are you ready to invest for the opportunity to get off?Personally, I have hypertension.

Young guys may not understand, but I started enjoying massage after I became 40.

(Especially rainy day or so.)

And, I would not mind something extra, but not looking for it desperately like before.

(I used to in 20s and 30s).

Since I have more savings, I plan to have massage once in a while.

It is possible to repeat a lady.

ChicagoCat99
03-30-17, 02:08
I paid her several vists years ago and she wasn't budging for me so I took my money elsewhere.

There are too many providers that provide HE for me to waste my time and money trying to get a HE out of one who isn't willing to play.Are you sure it was several visit?

Then, she must be legit.

Still, I want to try since it's cheaper and I prefer private residence.

By the way, I learned that it's kind of important to visit them in the evening.

Women change by mood a lot.

ChicagoCat99
03-30-17, 02:28
I'm one of those guys. A while back I was going to an mt at her house. It was a nice setup downstairs that even had a shower. I could tell I wasn't her first client. Her ad didn't have any of the keywords we look for but still I made an appt.

Show up to find a very attractive 35 ish Asian MILF. Down into the room where I get under the sheet. She gave me a very legit massage with no teasing or even a hint.

Okay. No problem. Now that I know what the deal is it's up to me if I want to make another appt.

A week later I do and it's the same routine. I'm still attracted to her and the fact that her hubby was working in his home office right outside the room made me both nervous and excited. I made more appts. Gambling on the fact that she was Asian and married, and I was laying naked on her table, hoping for a hint of fun.

Nothing ever happened so eventually I stopped going.

Worst case was I still got a very relaxing massage so it wasn't hard earned down the drain.

Point is it wasn't about the HE, it was about turning good girl into bad girl. Especially with the hubby there right outside the room every time.

Sometimes you win, sometimes you learn.Thank you very much for sharing.

Personally, I do prefer private residence, bit I would not go if there is a hubby.

I went to a Chinese girl's town house before.

Strangely, no one answered my doorbell.

A while later, I saw a man (brother or hubby) in the house picking up mails and never been there again.

And, in your case, what if the hubby installed a camera?

That guarantees nothing will ever happen.

Lurking
03-30-17, 12:14
Definitely Fake. She used to reply to my emails but hasn't in a couple years. I can't confirm she passed away. If so RIP. She was a great lady.I remember seeing a post she made a few years ago telling us that she was retiring for health reasons. She was battling the big C and was not doing well. You are right, she was a great lady.

ChgoJJ
03-30-17, 13:32
Are you sure it was several visit?

Then, she must be legit.

Still, I want to try since it's cheaper and I prefer private residence.

By the way, I learned that it's kind of important to visit them in the evening.

Women change by mood a lot.I saw here several times and different times of the day, but I still left without HE.

If you have any luck with her be sure to let us know.

ChgoJJ
03-30-17, 13:37
Funny a review for her was posted on MPr a couple of days ago giving an address in Streamwood could be fake I have not checked.I would say the review posted a couple of days ago on MPr is a fake review.

She did work out of her home in Streamwood when she was active in the business.

ChicagoCat99
03-30-17, 14:41
I saw here several times and different times of the day, but I still left without HE.

If you have any luck with her be sure to let us know.I am curious, but how was massage itself?

When I think about it, I have never repeat MT.

ChicagoCat99
03-30-17, 14:46
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/6062238651.html


Has anyone tired this lady?

Frogger7777
03-30-17, 14:53
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/6062238651.html


Has anyone tired this lady?She's been around a while and has been discussed in these forums. I think she's legit massage only.

ChicagoCat99
03-30-17, 15:06
https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/thp/6063721911.html

One last question.

How about this one?

Sorry I prefer private residence.

DuderWalter
03-30-17, 15:45
https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/thp/6063721911.html

One last question.

How about this one?

Sorry I prefer private residence.Saw her years ago. I think only legit like the others. Good massage but no hint of extras. I went 1 time and her kid and mom I think were in the kitchen. So pretty much that set the tone.

Jvaldez
03-30-17, 18:18
BradID24 Grace is legit. Has Big Tits but you can't touch them and no extras are availabe unless she has changed in recent years.I tried her a session with her in 2015. Totally legit. No extras were offered at that time.

Jvaldez
03-30-17, 18:21
Saw her years ago. I think only legit like the others. Good massage but no hint of extras. I went 1 time and her kid and mom I think were in the kitchen. So pretty much that set the tone.I had a session with her at her residence about 3 years ago. No one was home at the time and no extras were offered. I went two times and still nothing. I did like that she offered a shower. Grace does does not offer shower.

ChicagoCat99
03-30-17, 20:35
Saw her years ago. I think only legit like the others. Good massage but no hint of extras. I went 1 time and her kid and mom I think were in the kitchen. So pretty much that set the tone.Kid and mom?

Thank you very much for your info!!

ChicagoCat99
03-30-17, 20:42
https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/thp/6066947694.html

Thank you very much for your info.

Your answer saves me $100 per person.

I am not looking for something extra necessarily.

But, I was hoping something can happen in the future.

Have you tried this lady?

I typed her phone number and it seems address is archer ave.

She said she is from Caribbean.

I wonder if she is black, Indian or anyone else.

HenriLeon
03-30-17, 22:19
Today, I checked massage section in backpage.

Surprisingly, most of prices are much higher than $65 an hour there.

And, then, I found one ad showing $60 for 45 minutes and set up appointment for 7:00 pm.

When I was at the address, I found covered door as if it's in construction.

When I knocked the door, one nice latina came out.

Her name was Luna and prettiest and youngers (26) therapist so far.

Her massage was hard, but my towel went away in 10 minutes.

When she massaged my hands, she put them between her breasts.

(The biggest breasts I have ever had so far.).

Then, she asked me flip over.

I put towel on my belly since it was a bit cold.

She looked at my penis, but massaged me everywhere.

Then, she whispered, "We can have some fun for $50. ".

I told her that I have $40 and she smiled "OK".

(I brought $100 total.).

She used lotion to erect my penis. Then, she used oil to play with it.

She put one breast out and I sucked all along.

(It was like my head size.).

Nice finish. She was happy since I was obedient and we had nice hug.

She had more likely white American face than latina. Definitely I will be back since 4-5 girls there as well.

P.S. :

This photo was really her.

It was rare someone looks better than photo.

Facility was not that great.

Traffic sound.

Crowded with 4-5 girls.

No covered ceiling in the room.

Like half built facility.Yeah, man. Your story was like a great mise en bouche. ! If you could provide at least either the name of the massage place, or the original ad cause I couldn't find it on BP. ! Thanks in advance.

Shorty58
03-30-17, 22:28
I visited this one and was shut down completely. When I reached over to rub the girl's leg, she couldn't get away fast enough and told me they don't allow customers to touch them at all. Then was extremely careful with the towel to keep me completely covered. First time I've been shut down in a long time. I don't think I give a LEO vibe, I'm retired, a bit over weight, and my hair is scruffy and gray. YMMV but mine was zilch.


Today, I checked massage section in backpage.

Surprisingly, most of prices are much higher than $65 an hour there.

And, then, I found one ad showing $60 for 45 minutes and set up appointment for 7:00 pm.

When I was at the address, I found covered door as if it's in construction.

When I knocked the door, one nice latina came out.

Her name was Luna and prettiest and youngers (26) therapist so far.

Her massage was hard, but my towel went away in 10 minutes.

When she massaged my hands, she put them between her breasts.

(The biggest breasts I have ever had so far.).

Then, she asked me flip over.

I put towel on my belly since it was a bit cold.

She looked at my penis, but massaged me everywhere.

Then, she whispered, "We can have some fun for $50. ".

I told her that I have $40 and she smiled "OK".

(I brought $100 total.).

She used lotion to erect my penis. Then, she used oil to play with it.

She put one breast out and I sucked all along.

(It was like my head size.).

Nice finish. She was happy since I was obedient and we had nice hug.

She had more likely white American face than latina. Definitely I will be back since 4-5 girls there as well.

P.S. :

This photo was really her.

It was rare someone looks better than photo.

Facility was not that great.

Traffic sound.

Crowded with 4-5 girls.

No covered ceiling in the room.

Like half built facility.

CafeRaceritali
03-31-17, 01:41
So, like the title says, I had the wildest dream tonight. In it, I drove to a quiet little massage shop on Chicago Avenue. It was raining, so no one was out. It was late, 9:45, and the place was about to close. I walk in and I am greeted by three beautiful Asian women. One young, skinny one, an older woman and one in her late 30's. I was asked to take my shoes off, put on ridiculously tiny flip flops and follow the 30-year-old (Anna). I asked for the half hour and a table shower. $50 at the door. After being led to my room, I undressed and barely put on the robe awaiting me. When Anna came to fetch me, she did not seem to mind that my robe was wide-the-fuck open. She led me to the shower room. Once inside, she closed the door. She had no problem being very close to me. In fact, she moved right past me, brushing her body against my D- Once on the shower table, she used the hot shower water to clean every part of me. She giggled when I told her it tickled. She was polite, warm. She did an excellent job making sure I was clean; hot lathery soap can be magical at the end of a long day. On the flip, she stroked me with the soap, smiling, making me just firm enough to keep me aroused, but not going too far. She helped me off the table and began to dry me with a towel. I stood before her, completely naked. She stood very close to me, smiling flirtatiously. She had a loose fitting black top, wearing a bra. She used her little towel to dry my chest, my legs, my package. I turned around and she put her hands around me, drying me from behind. She made sure to dry and play with my D- and B--lls. An aside: You have not lived until you have been hand dried by a beautiful, subservient Asian woman who you know is about to use her talents to pull every drop of cum from your balls. It is a feeling reserved for emperors and kings. Back in the massage room, she locks the door. She turns down the lights. I get on the table. She begins a nice, steady massage. I tell her I'm cold, so she goes to get a towel, places it over my butt, but then immediately begins to stroke me. I get up on my knees and she begins the milking action. Finally, I turn over and She. Just. Did. Not. Stop. :) Only 6 minutes of my half hour massage have gone by. AT this point, I'm thinking, "well I'm finished, time to go. " But she continues to give me another 10 minutes of massage. Standard tip. Was great.

CafeRaceritali
03-31-17, 01:42
So, like the title says, I had the wildest dream tonight. In it, I drove to a quiet little massage shop on Chicago Avenue. It was raining, so no one was out. It was late, 9:45, and the place was about to close. I walk in and I am greeted by three beautiful Asian women. One young, skinny one, an older woman and one in her late 30's. I was asked to take my shoes off, put on ridiculously tiny flip flops and follow the 30-year-old (Anna). I asked for the half hour and a table shower. $50 at the door. After being led to my room, I undressed and barely put on the robe awaiting me. When Anna came to fetch me, she did not seem to mind that my robe was wide-the-fuck open. She led me to the shower room. Once inside, she closed the door. She had no problem being very close to me. In fact, she moved right past me, brushing her body against my D- Once on the shower table, she used the hot shower water to clean every part of me. She giggled when I told her it tickled. She was polite, warm. She did an excellent job making sure I was clean; hot lathery soap can be magical at the end of a long day. On the flip, she stroked me with the soap, smiling, making me just firm enough to keep me aroused, but not going too far. She helped me off the table and began to dry me with a towel. I stood before her, completely naked. She stood very close to me, smiling flirtatiously. She had a loose fitting black top, wearing a bra. She used her little towel to dry my chest, my legs, my package. I turned around and she put her hands around me, drying me from behind. She made sure to dry and play with my D- and B--lls. An aside: You have not lived until you have been hand dried by a beautiful, subservient Asian woman who you know is about to use her talents to pull every drop of cum from your balls. It is a feeling reserved for emperors and kings. Back in the massage room, she locks the door. She turns down the lights. I get on the table. She begins a nice, steady massage. I tell her I'm cold, so she goes to get a towel, places it over my butt, but then immediately begins to stroke me. I get up on my knees and she begins the milking action. Finally, I turn over and She. Just. Did. Not. Stop. Only 6 minutes of my half hour massage have gone by. AT this point, I'm thinking, "well I'm finished, time to go. " But she continues to give me another 10 minutes of massage. Standard tip. Was great.

Lamer12
03-31-17, 11:47
Anyone tried this before:

https://www.chicagosensualtouch.com/

Any reviews?

ChicagoCat99
03-31-17, 12:31
Yeah, man. Your story was like a great mise en bouche. ! If you could provide at least either the name of the massage place, or the original ad cause I couldn't find it on BP. ! Thanks in advance.You can go to BP massage section.

Type "Relaxing".

If the photo is latina, it's her.

ChicagoCat99
03-31-17, 12:38
I visited this one and was shut down completely. When I reached over to rub the girl's leg, she couldn't get away fast enough and told me they don't allow customers to touch them at all. Then was extremely careful with the towel to keep me completely covered. First time I've been shut down in a long time. I don't think I give a LEO vibe, I'm retired, a bit over weight, and my hair is scruffy and gray. YMMV but mine was zilch.Was the windows covered by cardboard?

Then, you can try one more time with the same lady.

She gave me a lot of hints.

She put my hands on her breasts when she massaged them.

I know it may not be legal.

But, she is a kind girl.

Besides, they did not charge crazy rate.

$60 massage and $40 tip were very reasonable.

JamesNoper
03-31-17, 14:54
So, like the title says, I had the wildest dream tonight. In it, I drove to a quiet little massage shop on Chicago Avenue. It was raining, so no one was out. It was late, 9:45, and the place was about to close. I walk in and I am greeted by three beautiful Asian women. One young, skinny one, an older woman and one in her late 30's. I was asked to take my shoes off, put on ridiculously tiny flip flops and follow the 30-year-old (Anna). I asked for the half hour and a table shower. $50 at the door. After being led to my room, I undressed and barely put on the robe awaiting me. When Anna came to fetch me, she did not seem to mind that my robe was wide-the-fuck open. She led me to the shower room. Once inside, she closed the door. She had no problem being very close to me. In fact, she moved right past me, brushing her body against my D- Once on the shower table, she used the hot shower water to clean every part of me. She giggled when I told her it tickled. She was polite, warm. She did an excellent job making sure I was clean; hot lathery soap can be magical at the end of a long day. On the flip, she stroked me with the soap, smiling, making me just firm enough to keep me aroused, but not going too far. She helped me off the table and began to dry me with a towel. I stood before her, completely naked. She stood very close to me, smiling flirtatiously. She had a loose fitting black top, wearing a bra. She used her little towel to dry my chest, my legs, my package. I turned around and she put her hands around me, drying me from behind. She made sure to dry and play with my D- and B--lls. An aside:.Good for you buddy, but this is standard service.

Walker333
03-31-17, 18:53
Was the windows covered by cardboard?Cardboard covered windows would be a some kind of a hint or a sign?

I'm sorry, I didn't get it.

Does she require more than one visit to get used to a client, to know him better?

HenriLeon
03-31-17, 19:44
You can go to BP massage section.

Type "Relaxing".

If the photo is latina, it's her.Finally found the ad thanks! I will totally feedback when we meet.

Sam Singer
03-31-17, 21:20
You can go to BP massage section.

Type "Relaxing".

If the photo is latina, it's her.You are sending us on a wild goose chase. I took your words seriously and in good faith and I could not find anything that matches your description.

If you do not want to post anything in public, please PM me.

ChicagoCat99
03-31-17, 23:41
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/%E2%80%8D-latina-massage/49420212

Vida massage On Belmont avenue.

Totally legit.

Young latina girls, but totally "bright" storefront.

I went there by the time it closes intentionally.

She did not lock the door or anything.

And, I had to get 30 minutes massage since she said I am too late.

Very unpassionate.

She did not expect any tip, but I gave her $10.

$45 for 30 minutes massage + $10 tip = $55 Total.


P.S.:

I do not understand why they hid their address again and again.

I may try there again long later.

Still, it's just too bright inside (no window cover or anything).

And, massage itself was pointless.