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HawaiiHorndog
10-15-11, 04:49
When to Cleopatras (old Club Tahoe) a couple of times this week. The place has been remodeled and cleaned up. Has a really comfortable feeling now. The owner is Kimberly who previously ran a few other places in the Kapiolani area. She has a collection that consists of quality rather than quantity. Nice looking 30 and 40ish year olds, great food too. Place was standing room only for the UH football game, even though the game was televised for free!

Kapakahi
10-15-11, 14:29
The owner is Kimberly who previously ran a few other places in the Kapiolani area.Unknowing & naive LVBs follow her around to find their DreamKBG. Recruits smooth sharks and wolfesses in sheep's clothing; much like herself. Soon to be a legend in her own mind.

Mr Okada
10-15-11, 22:34
When to Cleopatras (old Club Tahoe) a couple of times this week. The place has been remodeled and cleaned up. Has a really comfortable feeling now. The owner is Kimberly who previously ran a few other places in the Kapiolani area. She has a collection that consists of quality rather than quantity. Nice looking 30 and 40ish year olds, great food too. Place was standing room only for the UH football game, even though the game was televised for free!I'd have to agree with the Hdog. Was shocked to see how nice it is in there now as compared to the old New Tahoe. Super packed for the UH game. Definitely had some real nice 30 somethings who know how to take care of men with conversation and playfulness. Not like the young ROB KBG's in town who just guzzle tiny shots. I saw most of the girls drinking big bottle beers. Nice. I like to see that. But what's up with the FAT local girls in there. Had to ask the bartender if they worked there or were customers. Was told they were left over from the previous owner Jade mama. I bought drinks for cuties Jae, Yune and later a wicked sexy thing named Ivy. Good food, atmosphere and was comfortable with grooving karaoke. Except for the old asian guy on the bar who frikken yells into the mic and thinks he's a good singer. What a joke. I had to chuckle to myself when no one applauded after he sang his rock songs. Probably cause we were all deaf by then. FLOL. I will definitely check this place out more often. Definitely best in Kalihi. IMO. Mama says more girls to come this month. Mama's kind of sexy too. Peace out. Mr. O

Dasearch
10-15-11, 23:07
Unknowing & naive LVBs follow her around to find their DreamKBG. Recruits smooth sharks and wolfesses in sheep's clothing; much like herself. Soon to be a legend in her own mind."Legend in her own mind" There are many KBG that fit this description and some VBG as well. That is part of the problem now days, not like before when there was $10 Nekos.

HawaiiHorndog
10-16-11, 00:20
I'd have to agree with the Hdog. Was shocked to see how nice it is in there now as compared to the old New Tahoe. Super packed for the UH game. Definitely had some real nice 30 somethings who know how to take care of men with conversation and playfulness. Not like the young ROB KBG's in town who just guzzle tiny shots. I saw most of the girls drinking big bottle beers. Nice. I like to see that. But what's up with the FAT local girls in there. Had to ask the bartender if they worked there or were customers. Was told they were left over from the previous owner Jade mama. I bought drinks for cuties Jae, Yune and later a wicked sexy thing named Ivy. Good food, atmosphere and was comfortable with grooving karaoke. Except for the old asian guy on the bar who frikken yells into the mic and thinks he's a good singer. What a joke. I had to chuckle to myself when no one applauded after he sang his rock songs. Probably cause we were all deaf by then. FLOL. I will definitely check this place out more often. Definitely best in Kalihi. IMO. Mama says more girls to come this month. Mama's kind of sexy too. Peace out. Mr. OExcuse me Mr. Okada the old asian guy sitting on the bar yelling in the mike singing karaoke was me! I was feeling good reading your post, since you seemed to enjoy the place too; but then you had to slam me. Not. Just joking! I left a few minutes after the game was over so I missed the bad rock songs from the old asian guy. You're right, everyone else that I was with, felt that the left over girls from the old Club Tahoe, were misfits. Hope Cleopatras stays that good!

Captin Crunch
10-16-11, 00:33
I'd have to agree with the Hdog. Was shocked to see how nice it is in there now as compared to the old New Tahoe. Super packed for the UH game. Definitely had some real nice 30 somethings who know how to take care of men with conversation and playfulness. Not like the young ROB KBG's in town who just guzzle tiny shots. I saw moost of the girls drinking big bottle beers. Nice. I like to see that. But what's up with the FAT local girls in there. Had to ask the bartender if they worked there or were customers. Was told they were left over from the previous owner Jade mama. I bought drinks for cuties Jae, Yune and later a wicked sexy thing named Ivy. Good food, atmosphere and was comfortable with grooving karaoke. Except for the old asian guy on the bar who frikken yells into the mic and thinks he's a good singer. What a joke. I had to chuckle to myself when no one applauded after he sang his rock songs. Probably cause we were all deaf by then. FLOL. I will definitely check this place.

Out more often. Definitely best in Kalihi. IMO. Mama says more girls to come this month. Mama's kind of sexy too. Peace out. Mr. OThe guy you're talking about is known to sing in most bars in Kalihi. He can be seen sitting with the mic on the bar with no hands snd singing into the mic. The 1st time you hear him sing, he sounds good, but becomes irritating the more you see and hear him. I don't see him singing in the bar that his wife works at. She probably tells him to go other bars to sing.

H Mobius
10-16-11, 09:41
Saw Rose (formerly of Camelot) there; now goes by Christina. She may also go to Napa after 2. Kendra and Danbi (originally from D' Amour but also tried their luck at other area bars) were also there.

There were also a couple of average girls in their mid to late 20's whom I did not recognize, and when I left I looked towards Camelot and saw some curvy hostesses escorting guys back to their cars. I didn't bother to check but body-wise they looked really good from a distance.

Evergreen was packed so I went to Johnny's side of SP3 and it was busy. Had a young skinny local cosmo girl dancing, with an aerobics butt and a kind of large tattoo by the breastbone area. It was obscured by her big C's. Sat with Sandy for a bit then left when she went up on stage; got some T & A play but mostly just cruised (she showed me camera phone photos of her hometown and parents, who look like nice people especially her mom, so I felt bad and took my paws off of her even though she didn't mind). In my experience so far, all the Viet dancers I've met there are very nice women; basically the opposite of the hostesses at vbars. If they were in an AMP I would be happy with any of them.

Lenlow6
10-18-11, 04:02
Folks,

Anyone got any FYI on the weekend bartenders at Club Business? Uh, female bartenders.

Blade82
10-18-11, 07:21
I heard next week tues-thurs or something, Evergreen will have theme nights. I only know of two as thats all the girl remembered; nightgown and school girl. A little too tame for my blood to go out on a weekday.

Kapakahi
10-18-11, 13:57
I heard next week tues-thurs or something, Evergreen will have theme nights.It's just amazing that the KBs use gimmicks (KBGs) to rustle-up business; it's just a desperate method to mask failure. Look, pabos, it all begins with the basics of customer satisfaction (service) and customer appreciation; not the opposite, which has been happening for much too long (KBs & KBGs think they're the customers; LVBs and pabos (dummies) establish that mentality).

Anyway, what do you expect from "legends?"

Jehuty
10-18-11, 18:56
Are fricken retarded unless its lingerie. At least you can see them somewhat nekkid and you don't have to lift up their skirts to see what kind panty they wearing for the night. Schoolgirl / Prom gettup is lame.

Johnny14
10-19-11, 14:38
Are fricken retarded unless its lingerie. At least you can see them somewhat nekkid and you don't have to lift up their skirts to see what kind panty they wearing for the night. Schoolgirl / Prom gettup is lame.Maybe they should make a "Sniff her panty" night where the customer is blindfolded and guess whose it belongs to. The winner gets a drink and some action in the booth if he guesses right. Bet the one with the stinkest fouling smelling one would win hands down, but some dude would probably get turned on by some panty that reeks?

Jehuty
10-19-11, 19:25
Maybe they should make a "Sniff her panty" night where the customer is blindfolded and guess whose it belongs to. The winner gets a drink and some action in the booth if he guesses right. Bet the one with the stinkest fouling smelling one would win hands down, but some dude would probably get turned on by some panty that reeks?Should have rub and sniff just like the scratch and sniff stickers.

Hehe

Warriors808
10-20-11, 16:06
Heard that New Casino will be opening again very soon. Not sure when, but maybe early November. Julie will again be mama and her partner will be Lisa, from Kalihi. Club Chocolate. But then again just could be another rumor.

Hypo Luxa
10-20-11, 21:36
Should have rub and sniff just like the scratch and sniff stickers.

HeheHave a taste test!

Kapakahi
10-21-11, 11:23
Heard that New Casino will be opening again very soon. But then again just could be another rumor.Kapiolani needs a shot in the ass especially after Monaco's debacle and Evergreen's (Maya's) ppffft opening. Maybe they won't be greedy this time? Not!

Pors997
10-21-11, 13:29
I heard Napa is for sale. This should be interesting since it has a 4am liquor license.

Gargoyles69
10-22-11, 01:21
Decided to try and go to a more quieter, local bar so dropped by here for the Monday night Football game. The place was pretty dead. I'm actually surprised how empty is was, especially for game night. But luckily enough I sat with a local Korean girl named Lei. I'd say she's mid 20s, decent looks and a big bootie. Girls working here aren't dolled up as the ones over at Camelot or anything but I guess this is how local bars are? Not sure since this was my first one but it was cool. It definitely is a plus when the bg speaks fluent English. You can make jokes and be all sarcastic and they get it. Bought her a few drinks (it was only. 1 each!) and just talked story for a couple hours. Not sure if play is to be had but she's very friendly and kind of flirty so I think catching her later on in the evening when there's more liquor consumed would lead to great dividends.

Does anyone know of younger, local girls that play? Or is it just accepted that they don't and I'd have to stick with the FOBs to get any action?Yea ther is Play over there. Hmmm the mama is Suji. Nice person I give her credit cause she been around to a couple of bars trying to open.

Jehuty
10-22-11, 13:14
Where is Hibiscus?

Lowlys One
10-22-11, 19:10
Yea ther is Play over there. Hmmm the mama is Suji. Nice person I give her credit cause she been around to a couple of bars trying to open.Had to work last night and on the way home about 11:45 pm I happened to drive past Hibiscus, the place appeared packed as people were standing outside the bar on the sidewalk and in through the doorway. Maybe a party or something, never seen it like that when I was a regular at R. M. 's.

LocalGuy808
10-23-11, 00:05
Did some barhopping in Kalihi Friday. Started at Illusions. Nothing real special, the hot bartendress was looking fine. I don't know, but I think the male Korean bar back is banging her. I got this fornication vibe when they interacted. Lucky bastard! Kelly was looking kinda hot, maybe because she wasn't wearing those damn sunglasses on her head. Thought about taking her to a booth but then said nah. The chunky big breasted day time bartrendress was working the floor. Chunky, but she looks hot all dolled up. There was this loud older dude buying shots for every girl there. Must have had some deep pockets. I booked over to Islander where I had been earlier in the day. There is a mid 30s KBG that is usually there early. She looks sexy. Seems to have alot of customers. I mean, when one left, another showed up. She takes them straight to the booths, never stays sitting at the bar. I never had a chance to say Hi as she was real busy. There is at least one or two new young girls there, think they came from spotlight. One is real hot with great legs.

Checked out Piscies, there are several girls in there now not just Ellie. A couple came over from black stallion. I wouldn't mind banging Diane mama, I've drank with her before. Didn't go spotlight as I'm avoiding someone there. Booked over to Sakura Jin and that barplex. Wasn't a place to sit in sakura jin so booked to lilac. I spent a couple hours and five ladies drinks with my friend there. Had a good time, singing and talking story with her. Was real chill. The mama there is the original owner, she is kinda hot but I can't remember her name. The usual hags was there too.

Booked over to one 2 go and was dead. Skinny Jenny was there looking fine. Was waiting for her to finish customer and drink with her, as she gets pretty touchy feeley when she's had a few. But Jessie was sitting a couple of stools over and we started rapping. Bought about 4 beers for her and had good time talking story. She was looking damn hot too. Has anyone ever tapped that? I wanted to mention this to you guys as this happened to me at one 2 go a few weeks ago. I ordered a beer, she pops the cap, and it's half full. I said WTF! She quickly gives me another. I'm now convinced that the bars are re-capping and serving us someone elses backwash. I mean other than demand to inspect the bottle before capped open, how you going to know. I don't peticularly like the taste of beer so not sure if I know what a stale one tasts like. But I may now start demanding to inspect the bottle.

Hypo Luxa
10-23-11, 00:50
I'm now convinced that the bars are re-capping and serving us someone elses backwash.Holy SHIT! I never thought about that concept! Only ordering sodas or well drinks now!

Werd0001
10-23-11, 02:45
Checked out Piscies, there are several girls in there now not just Ellie. A couple came over from black stallion. I wouldn't mind banging Diane mama, I've drank with her before. Didn't go spotlight as I'm avoiding someone there. Booked over to Sakura Jin and that barplex. Wasn't a place to sit in sakura jin so booked to lilac. I spent a couple hours and five ladies drinks with my friend there. Had a good time, singing and talking story with her. Was real chill. The mama there is the original owner, she is kinda hot but I can't remember her name. The usual hags was there too.Is there any play or take out with elle?

Kapakahi
10-23-11, 03:30
Holy SHIT! I never thought about that concept! Only ordering sodas or well drinks now!Have witnessed illegal transfer of hard liquor (fill an empty bottle with another larger, fuller bottle) ; recap beer bottle after filling with another similar bottle; reuse "mistakes" hidden under the bar counter; have already discussed reused peanuts, chips, candies, etc. ; the soda gun is filthy (they no clean the thing and it accumulates thick gunk). But when it comes to them or alike, they demand fresh and clean. Customer service, sanitation, with care, KBG-style.

Hell, KBGs even cycle themselves with others for business so I guess there's no big deal.

I0000I
10-23-11, 05:20
Holy SHIT! I never thought about that concept! Only ordering sodas or well drinks now!Thats why I don't do bottle beer anymore.

Illusions and CS was busy Saturday night.

H Mobius
10-23-11, 08:19
I ordered a beer, she pops the cap, and it's half full. I said WTF! She quickly gives me another. I'm now convinced that the bars are re-capping and serving us someone elses backwash. I mean other than demand to inspect the bottle before capped open, how you going to know.Unsatisfactory. I wonder if there is a Liquor Commission or Department of Health rule that addresses this.

On another note, there were lots of beautiful girls at Camelot, some of whom have fantastic legs. They tend to sit in the lounge area and be engrossed in their phones waiting to be dispatched, so it is a bit like seeing a lineup in an AMP.

Yuka is back at Evergreen and so is Candy, who seems to be aging fast.

Lowlys One
10-23-11, 17:04
Where is Hibiscus?Its on Ward ave. Across from The Sports Authority, same building as Roppongi and Golden Queen AMP's, but on the street level.

Hayn69
10-24-11, 21:47
Haven't heard much about the evil twins Yuri and Yujin. Are they sill around the Kalihi area? If anybody knows what bar they are working at.

Very playful girls but dangerous back in the day.

Sports Night
10-25-11, 01:30
Yea ther is Play over there. Hmmm the mama is Suji. Nice person I give her credit cause she been around to a couple of bars trying to open.Interested in identifying play areas. Last time I was in there, too brightly lit, no real private tables so are we going.

For it in the open? Request some additional details and names (pm if you wish).

LocalGuy808
10-25-11, 03:20
Is there any play or take out with elle?I've seen guys feel her up. Not sure if any play more than that. I've never tried.

LocalGuy808
10-25-11, 03:28
Haven't heard much about the evil twins Yuri and Yujin. Are they sill around the Kalihi area? If anybody knows what bar they are working at.

Very playful girls but dangerous back in the day.hadn't seen them in the dillingham barplex as of late. Probably in korea working in iteawon. I normally avoid them though.

Captin Crunch
10-25-11, 03:47
hadn't seen them in the dillingham barplex as of late. Probably in korea working in iteawon. I normally avoid them though.A few weeks ago, I seen both of them at Carnival in Kalihi.

Member 69
10-25-11, 05:20
I ordered a beer, she pops the cap, and it's half full. I said WTF! She quickly gives me another. I'm now convinced that the bars are re-capping and serving us someone elses backwash. I mean other than demand to inspect the bottle before capped open, how you going to know. I don't peticularly like the taste of beer so not sure if I know what a stale one tasts like. But I may now start demanding to inspect the bottle.Doesn't surprise me. If the girl or waiter or waitress mixes up the beer order and returns it back to the bar they usually put it back on ice in the sink to give to someone else. I saw that once before, the customer started pouring the drink before he realized that it wasn't the beer he ordered. The girl took the bottle back and they put it back in the sink, putting the cap back on even though the bottle wasn't full.

Like the other posters mentioned, we all see the old switcheroo with the bottles of soju, they use the empty bottles, fill it with a little soju and the rest ice tea and then recaps the bottle for the next suck, er customer to give to his bar girl. Make sure, if you buy the girl a bottle, make sure and open the soju bottle yourself. More than one occasion I have opened the bottle without the sound you hear when they open it. I asked them to bring a real bottle of soju and won't pay unless it was a real soju.

Kalani69
10-25-11, 17:08
A few weeks ago, I seen both of them at Carnival in Kalihi.Month or so ago, I sat with both of them. Got plenty HJ and offer of BJ in room but declined because they still drink too fast.

Pursuer
10-25-11, 18:01
Month or so ago, I sat with both of them. Got plenty HJ and offer of BJ in room but declined because they still drink too fast.They are starting to show their age. Both look older and haggard, especially Yujin. I also saw them a few weeks ago at Carnival.

NinjaLurker
10-25-11, 20:48
Doesn't surprise me. If the girl or waiter or waitress mixes up the beer order and returns it back to the bar they usually put it back on ice in the sink to give to someone else. I saw that once before, the customer started pouring the drink before he realized that it wasn't the beer he ordered. The girl took the bottle back and they put it back in the sink, putting the cap back on even though the bottle wasn't full.

Like the other posters mentioned, we all see the old switcheroo with the bottles of soju, they use the empty bottles, fill it with a little soju and the rest ice tea and then recaps the bottle for the next suck, er customer to give to his bar girl. Make sure, if you buy the girl a bottle, make sure and open the soju bottle yourself. More than one occasion I have opened the bottle without the sound you hear when they open it. I asked them to bring a real bottle of soju and won't pay unless it was a real soju.I drink beer at kb's thinking that it's the safest. No can tamper like watering down scotch or dirty glasses to drink from. Now not even beer is safe?

What is this world coming to? LOL.

I've been warned to not eat the dry snacks because they pour them back in the bag when the customer leaves. Ugh.

The last time I went to Kool's, I was ono for boiled peanuts. Went to the store next door but was closed. Just so happened, the bartender had. Was one sealed bag that she cut open for me. I gave her a $10 bill to buy her a drink. She took it and put in the tip jar. Whateva.

Blade82
10-25-11, 21:37
I ordered a beer, she pops the cap, and it's half full. I said WTF! She quickly gives me another. I'm now convinced that the bars are re-capping and serving us someone elses backwash. I mean other than demand to inspect the bottle before capped open, how you going to know.In my opinion unless you really have a virgin tongue for beer you'll know something doesn't taste right. Although it could be a little tricky if they just opened not too long before your order. For me if the beer wasn't tampered with then I don't mind taking the mistake, but that could just be me. If the bartender opens directly in front of you and you have sharp ears, there will also be a difference in sound. Just somethings you pick up after drinking beer long enough. On another note, they most likely won't be able to do this with imports since those aren't twist offs. Personally I think everyone is making a big deal out of nothing. Has it ever crossed anyone that perhaps it actually was a distributer mistake? It happens. Even if it was the bars doing I'm pretty certain that bottle wasn't meant for Moon, but for the girls. Girls drinks is another issue and no secret. Not trying to defend bars ways but it seems we are becoming like ESPN, making stories out of nothing.

Hypo Luxa
10-25-11, 21:54
In my opinion unless you really have a virgin tongue for beer you'll know something doesn't taste right. Although it could be a little tricky if they just opened not too long before your order. For me if the beer wasn't tampered with then I don't mind taking the mistake, but that could just be me. If the bartender opens directly in front of you and you have sharp ears, there will also be a difference in sound. Just somethings you pick up after drinking beer long enough. On another note, they most likely won't be able to do this with imports since those aren't twist offs. Personally I think everyone is making a big deal out of nothing. Has it ever crossed anyone that perhaps it actually was a distributer mistake? It happens. Even if it was the bars doing I'm pretty certain that bottle wasn't meant for Moon, but for the girls. Girls drinks is another issue and no secret. Not trying to defend bars ways but it seems we are becoming like ESPN, making stories out of nothing.Blade, the thing that concerns me is taking unfinished beers and combining them. Rumor or not, I have worked in the food / restaurant industry, and I have seen things that made my head spin. And this was at the reputable establishments.

From now on, I may start ordering bottled water at these places now.

Pursuer
10-26-11, 01:41
I, like many old bastids, drink my beer in a bucket of ice. On several occasions I have seen pieces of crap in the ice, mainly insect parts. On a couple of times, I have discovered the additional flavoring after I've quaffed more than half the glass.

Ewabeachguy
10-26-11, 02:05
Went to Cheers Station with some friends last night for MNF and sat with Michelle. One of my friends said he went in the room with her for HJ so I wanted to try that out. She is a 5'3" Korean MILF with some bolt ons, I think, and nice shapely legs. She was quite friendly although her English skills were not so good. Anyways, after 3 drinks, I suggested that we go to the room for some privacy, but she said she does not go to room and that she never has. I just bought her 2 more drinks and seeing that there was no action, I left early. Does anyone know if play is available with her?

Supraman
10-26-11, 02:12
Any 411 on the girls Nicky and Stef that used to work at green tea?

Supraman
10-26-11, 02:26
Any info of Nicky from spotlight?

Punsai69
10-26-11, 02:57
Went to Cheers Station with some friends last night for MNF and sat with Michelle. One of my friends said he went in the room with her for HJ so I wanted to try that out. She is a 5'3" Korean MILF with some bolt ons, I think, and nice shapely legs. She was quite friendly although her English skills were not so good. Anyways, after 3 drinks, I suggested that we go to the room for some privacy, but she said she does not go to room and that she never has. I just bought her 2 more drinks and seeing that there was no action, I left early. Does anyone know if play is available with her?Either your friend or Michelle is bullshitting

Captin Crunch
10-26-11, 03:55
Either your friend or Michelle is bullshittingMichelle does not play after 4 pm. She gives BBBJ in the ewa back corner booth. As far as I know, she does not do FS.

H Mobius
10-26-11, 06:32
Went to Cheers Station with some friends last night for MNF and sat with Michelle. One of my friends said he went in the room with her for HJ so I wanted to try that out. She is a 5'3" Korean MILF with some bolt ons, I think, and nice shapely legs. She was quite friendly although her English skills were not so good. Anyways, after 3 drinks, I suggested that we go to the room for some privacy, but she said she does not go to room and that she never has. I just bought her 2 more drinks and seeing that there was no action, I left early. Does anyone know if play is available with her?Was that your first time with her? It seems not many girls play right away for reasons I won't get into. As Mogo Master said, play can be had in the ewa section.

Them are popular tables; whenever I go they are occupied for extended periods. Made me think of Club My House from back in the day, where back table turnover was high because the girl would burn through the guy's wallet as quickly as possible since there were only like 2 booths.

Blade82
10-26-11, 09:51
Blade, the thing that concerns me is taking unfinished beers and combining them. Rumor or not, I have worked in the food / restaurant industry, and I have seen things that made my head spin. And this was at the reputable establishments.

From now on, I may start ordering bottled water at these places now.Bingo, you're right these kinds things can happen anywhere. Difference though is I doubt this was meant to be for him. You know the tricks of the trade, and it sounds like the bottle was a girls bottle. On the otherhand things that goes on in the kitchen is done on purpose. I got yet to see bottled water being sold, but if you want the safest beverage get can tea.

Wn5912
10-26-11, 14:11
Went to Cheers Station with some friends last night for MNF and sat with Michelle. One of my friends said he went in the room with her for HJ so I wanted to try that out. She is a 5'3" Korean MILF with some bolt ons, I think, and nice shapely legs. She was quite friendly although her English skills were not so good. Anyways, after 3 drinks, I suggested that we go to the room for some privacy, but she said she does not go to room and that she never has. I just bought her 2 more drinks and seeing that there was no action, I left early. Does anyone know if play is available with her?I use to see her quite a lot LY but stopped as she can break your wallet. Best is to see her early and get her undivided attention. I've had her in the back booth BBBJ and FIV and also in the back room. I may have been one of the lucky ones to taste her sweet nani. She let me DATY her more than a few times. Her pussy is small, clean slippery and light color compared to typical Korean milfs. She also gets aroused and cums quickly. She would be a sweet fuck but no way she would do FS as far I know. I tried.

Tiredguy
10-26-11, 17:25
Interested in identifying play areas. Last time I was in there, too brightly lit, no real private tables so are we going.

For it in the open? Request some additional details and names (pm if you wish).got to agree. Went to Hibiscus for the first time (after visiting the 3-plex). New mama is very nice. She said she has been there 8 months. Scanned the room and checked out the pool table area. I don't see any space for play.

Suji and I talked about other bars (she was thinking of buying a strip bar before settling on Hibiscus) and I was going to ask her "What type of bar do you want this to be?" but there were too many Korean-speaking guys around, so she couldn't really talk openly.

Basically, I see that place as the lounge before or after the upstairs adventures. Not really "competition".

SlimeBoy808
10-26-11, 17:59
Stopped by last night. Kyong was not there. Had the gothic looking one, Michele, and Wendy (the big boob Filipino). I know Michele plays but don't know if Wendy still does.

Stay True
10-27-11, 16:35
Lot of new beautiful girls, come join us!

And.

Halloween costume party Saturday night 7pm-2am.

Two Pump Cum
10-28-11, 00:45
They are starting to show their age. Both look older and haggard, especially Yujin. I also saw them a few weeks ago at Carnival.Yuri said they are now working at Club Jasmine. Haven't been able to confirm that or who the mama is. TPC

Doc Wayne
10-28-11, 04:57
Yuri said they are now working at Club Jasmine. Haven't been able to confirm that or who the mama is. TPCWhere's that?

H Mobius
10-28-11, 08:32
Where's that?I could be mistaken but is it the old Michelle's on Sheridan Street, next to the defunct Monaco?

Kiddo2
10-28-11, 09:22
Soyong? The youngest there? Is a Very Hot "Ready To Go" Korean BG who is a Great Kisser, Better BBBJ, and was tight. Bring her into the room (make sure already had a few drinks and it'll be less costly) and a bottle of soju. Natural "C" and nicely trimed. SHe moans so make sure the Karaoke is on. Comes very vocal and gets very wet so bring enough napkins. Doesn't care if BB or covered. She even will swallow if you can get it out in time. As I said, she comes Very hard and its not easy to pull out in time. Have fun. I had her twice this week and she may be not as tight (9+) but they recupt fast. ENJOY!

Jake1213
10-28-11, 17:00
Lot of new beautiful girls, come join us!

And.

Halloween costume party Saturday night 7pm-2am.This is the place where they water down the drinks. Two months ago it hapened to a frind of mine and I warned him about it, but no he know better and he learned the hard way. We will get back at the bar back there and make amends for all the crap that hey pull there. Especially that big good for nothing guy there. Go on you guys be a fool but beware.

Blade82
10-28-11, 19:06
This is the place where they water down the drinks. Two months ago it hapened to a frind of mine and I warned him about it, but no he know better and he learned the hard way. We will get back at the bar back there and make amends for all the crap that hey pull there. Especially that big good for nothing guy there. Go on you guys be a fool but beware.And what KB bar doesn't waterdown the girls drinks?

LocalGuy808
10-28-11, 22:56
Soyong? The youngest there? Is a Very Hot "Ready To Go" Korean BG who is a Great Kisser, Better BBBJ, and was tight. Bring her into the room (make sure already had a few drinks and it'll be less costly) and a bottle of soju. Natural "C" and nicely trimed. SHe moans so make sure the Karaoke is on. Comes very vocal and gets very wet so bring enough napkins. Doesn't care if BB or covered. She even will swallow if you can get it out in time. As I said, she comes Very hard and its not easy to pull out in time. Have fun. I had her twice this week and she may be not as tight (9+) but they recupt fast. ENJOY!In kalihi? How much for the room? Can you give a description of hed?

Kiddo2
10-28-11, 23:29
Went there and apparently I got the names wrong. Asked Mama and she said that "Suyong" was fired. There is another Su Yong but that's a different one. Got to look around Kalihi to try and find her again.

Member 69
10-29-11, 04:30
I, like many old bastids, drink my beer in a bucket of ice. On several occasions I have seen pieces of crap in the ice, mainly insect parts. On a couple of times, I have discovered the additional flavoring after I've quaffed more than half the glass.You need to check the ice out all the time. Normally most bars put the ice in the sink near where the girls pick up their drinks. They also put in bottles of the popular beers in it. But they still fill up your bucket of ice from that same area. Unfortunately they don't really rinse the bottles before they put them in so it is possible that the insect parts could have come from the beer cases and when they put the beer in the ice it also came along. Maybe better to use the ice that is in the ice chests. You see it at the popular bars, cumalot, maya's, butterfly, etc.

Unfortunately it could also have come from the ice machines since we don't know how clean they are.

Surprised, nobody posted about maya's anniversary / grand opening. They had it for 3 nights tues. Thurs. On tues the girls wore evening gowns on Thursday it was schoolgirl night, most girls were so-so with their outfits but at least some opened the front to make them sexier. Chinese girl lisa had her hair differently so almost couldn't recognize her. At least I think it was her. I missed Wednesday night, it was lingerie night, rats.

Kapakahi
10-29-11, 14:51
And what KB bar doesn't waterdown the girls drinks?Let's face it; most of the shenanigans and crappola that happens in the KBs are orders from the top. The KBGs are trained and tutored by veteran KBGs and monitored by upper management. There are renegade KBGs but they basically get their screwed-up ways from the KB training and guidance. That's why they all pull the same old shat whatever KB you go and plant. I wouldn't be surprised if the rook KBGs had a booklet to study, mock sessions, and mentors before going solo.

H Mobius
10-29-11, 20:00
You need to check the ice out all the time. Normally most bars put the ice in the sink near where the girls pick up their drinks. They also put in bottles of the popular beers in it. But they still fill up your bucket of ice from that same area. Unfortunately they don't really rinse the bottles before they put them in so it is possible that the insect parts could have come from the beer cases and when they put the beer in the ice it also came along. Maybe better to use the ice that is in the ice chests. You see it at the popular bars, cumalot, maya's, butterfly, etc.

Unfortunately it could also have come from the ice machines since we don't know how clean they are.I've never seen bug parts like Pursuer had but have seen food particles.

I quit the bucket of ice years ago. At first, the k-bartendresses looked shocked ("Just Botto?") but I guess that preference has become more common. The ice chest is a good idea, only the girls never use the scooper and forcibly scoop with the glass which can leave chips.

I didn't bother with the 'nights' at Evergreen, but the good thing about Lisa is that she's always dressed in Fungirl outfits anyway, and it isn't just for show :).

Doc Wayne
10-29-11, 20:13
In kalihi? How much for the room? Can you give a description of hed?Where's that?

Hypo Luxa
10-29-11, 20:15
WoW! I'm really not wanting to drink anything from anywhere anymore!

Kapakahi
10-30-11, 01:11
WoW! I'm really not wanting to drink anything from anywhere anymore!That's why I try to estalish some rapport with the bartenders to preclude any monkey business. Still watch them, though.

Kfisher2010
10-30-11, 07:32
Just trying to find out the scoop on Sasha from Club P.

Is she just a tease or do you just have to have the right $$$, which is normally the case with KBGs.

Any info would be helpful.

Jj6969
10-30-11, 09:24
Where's that?Maybe he's talking about Sakura Gin in the Waikamilo shopping center at the end across from Green Tea.

Jj6969
10-30-11, 09:27
You need to check the ice out all the time. Normally most bars put the ice in the sink near where the girls pick up their drinks. They also put in bottles of the popular beers in it. But they still fill up your bucket of ice from that same area. Unfortunately they don't really rinse the bottles before they put them in so it is possible that the insect parts could have come from the beer cases and when they put the beer in the ice it also came along. Maybe better to use the ice that is in the ice chests. You see it at the popular bars, cumalot, maya's, butterfly, etc.

Unfortunately it could also have come from the ice machines since we don't know how clean they are.

Surprised, nobody posted about maya's anniversary / grand opening. They had it for 3 nights tues. Thurs. On tues the girls wore evening gowns on Thursday it was schoolgirl night, most girls were so-so with their outfits but at least some opened the front to make them sexier. Chinese girl lisa had her hair differently so almost couldn't recognize her. At least I think it was her. I missed Wednesday night, it was lingerie night, rats.Putting bottles of beer in the ice bins, isn't that a health code violation? Your probably right the ice machine is long overdue for a cleaning.

H Mobius
10-30-11, 10:16
Recently decided to try Christina (not to be confused with Christine, a much younger noob of a hostess), formerly Rose who freelanced at Camelot and who once advertised as "Hawaii's Sexiest Asian Ass" on BP a while back. Her ass is getting fat and saggy but her big C's are still nice. I don't do rooms anymore but tried with her since I partook of that ad; heavy T & A play, and BBBJ.

Maybe more is available, YMMV. The junk thing was she seemed obsessed with herself and was constantly checking-out her looks, also that it was in a KB which usually one would just AMP already. But, as is plainly apparent, she's a heavy player at the regular tables and I was drunk enough so I said what-the-hay.

Ewabeachguy
10-31-11, 05:28
Recently decided to try Christina (not to be confused with Christine, a much younger noob of a hostess) , formerly Rose who freelanced at Camelot and who once advertised as "Hawaii's Sexiest Asian Ass" on BP a while back. Her ass is getting fat and saggy but her big C's are still nice. I don't do rooms anymore but tried with her since I partook of that ad; heavy T & A play, and BBBJ.

Maybe more is available, YMMV. The junk thing was she seemed obsessed with herself and was constantly checking-out her looks, also that it was in a KB which usually one would just AMP already. But, as is plainly apparent, she's a heavy player at the regular tables and I was drunk enough so I said what-the-hay.Thanks for the report. What was the damage?

Kim Chee Kane
10-31-11, 14:05
Has anyone seem Jamie (Jaime)? From Camelot? Think she was there a few years ago but haven't heard from her. She's originally from LA and Korean. She had some big boobs, too.

Who has experienced Coco (Koko)? From Splash. She looked hella cute. Approx 5'3 or 5'4? Short hair, light skin, 'and Korean.

H Mobius
10-31-11, 18:14
Thanks for the report. What was the damage?Got her down to 2; will not repeat.

Blacks
11-01-11, 06:46
Maybe he's talking about Sakura Gin in the Waikamilo shopping center at the end across from Green Tea.There's no one there by that name and no beds there. Is he talking about a AMP?

LocalGuy808
11-01-11, 08:08
Does anyone have any info on mina who works at islander? Older kbg been here around

7 mos. Pm me. Thanks

I0000I
11-02-11, 05:48
Lot of new beautiful girls, come join us!

And.

Halloween costume party Saturday night 7pm-2am.Did anyone check this place out or the other bars on Halloween night? Must have been slow.

Jan Fortifore
11-02-11, 06:12
Went there and apparently I got the names wrong. Asked Mama and she said that "Suyong" was fired. There is another Su Yong but that's a different one. Got to look around Kalihi to try and find her again.
Soyong? The youngest there? Is a Very Hot "Ready To Go" Korean BG who is a Great Kisser, Better BBBJ, and was tight. Bring her into the room (make sure already had a few drinks and it'll be less costly) and a bottle of soju. Natural "C" and nicely trimed. SHe moans so make sure the Karaoke is on. Comes very vocal and gets very wet so bring enough napkins. Doesn't care if BB or covered. She even will swallow if you can get it out in time. As I said, she comes Very hard and its not easy to pull out in time. Have fun. I had her twice this week and she may be not as tight (9+) but they recupt fast. ENJOY!Aloha Kiddo for the 411 and the correction about Su Yong. I'm sorry for the miscommunication, but where did you have her twice last week? Sakura Jin in Waikamilo area? Did she get fired because she was servicing guys? Do you know where she's working now? She may be a friend's fave (with whom he had lost track) , but we have to verify.

Majalooz! Laaate,

Jay Dubblefoh

Blade82
11-02-11, 14:33
Did anyone check this place out or the other bars on Halloween night? Must have been slow.On the day itself I checked out Pharoh, Evergreen, and Diamond. Diamond was really lame, it seemed like a party was supposed to happen but the employees never show. Pharoh was dead but Evergreen all the girls was dressed up. It was pretty fun seeing all of them in their outfits, one was even in a anime cosplay. When I first got there all the girls was taking pics in the back. Memorable night

Phreekstyle
11-02-11, 17:23
Went to Romantei Halloween and met Joanna who was dressed in a little Bo Peep outfit. Also met a white girl dressed in an Angel outfit her panties were so thin that you could see her nani right through her underwear (hehehe). Think her name is Christine. Post or PM me if anyone out there got anywhere with these 2 hotties.

LoserSteve
11-04-11, 03:49
My 1st stop on Monday evening was at Cheers Station where there was a Halloween dress up contest with over 20+ entries. The girls strutted around the bar with numbers attached to their chest and the customers got to vote on the the best dressed (or the least clothes which ever may apply). Mama bought champagne as a 1st prize followed by cash for the others. It was a full house and mama is anticipating another big crowd with her upcoming anniversary ticket party on Monday-Wednesday 7-9th of next week. Supposedly trips to Vegas are going to be given away and I hope its not trips to the Vegas in Kalihi.

Spotlight had but 1 lone person doing the Halloween dress up and there were only about a half a dozen customers in the bar, really sad for such a clean bar. Time to go home.

Think I'll go to town to watch the UH foorball game on Saturday, lots more eye candy!

Mr Okada
11-04-11, 15:56
My 1st stop on Monday evening was at Cheers Station where there was a Halloween dress up contest with over 20+ entries. The girls strutted around the bar with numbers attached to their chest and the customers got to vote on the the best dressed (or the least clothes which ever may apply). Mama bought champagne as a 1st prize followed by cash for the others. It was a full house and mama is anticipating another big crowd with her upcoming anniversary ticket party on Monday-Wednesday 7-9th of next week. Supposedly trips to Vegas are going to be given away and I hope its not trips to the Vegas in Kalihi.

Spotlight had but 1 lone person doing the Halloween dress up and there were only about a half a dozen customers in the bar, really sad for such a clean bar. Time to go home.

Think I'll go to town to watch the UH foorball game on Saturday, lots more eye candy!Yeah, was kinda fun at Cheer's on Monday. Mama has LOTS of girls (most of them non-attractive or older) but some diamonds in the rough. Decided to go cruise the other Kalihi bars. DEAD. Spotlight, VegasIII and even the once popular Cleopatra (really mediocre now). I think the mama lost a lot of her girls (still a couple left Ivy, J, and a pretty new girl named Rachel) but for the most part Cleopat's is only average now. Kim should hire more attractive ASIAN women. And what's with the robust local girls in there. The food was pretty good when they opened but has gone down in quality too. Maybe the kitchen mama left too. That's sad. I've known Kim for a while and I really want to visit her place but my friends don't want to go as much now. Decided to stop complaining about looking at old 40+ ladies and headed to town. Much better all over. Eye candy galore. Stopped by Evergreen and D'amour. Yes, young girls, the promised land. NOT! They just drink faster and with no intention of pleasing you. I'm a Kalihi KB boy. Pay and Play. Just drink more so the older ladies look better. LOL. Peace out. Mr. Okada

Johnny14
11-04-11, 19:42
[QUOTE=. Just drink more so the older ladies look better. LOL. Peace out. Mr. Okada[/QUOTE]


If that doesn't work, then turn off the lights and she'll be alright!

Pok Gai
11-04-11, 20:04
If that doesn't work, then turn off the lights and she'll be alright!Close your eyes and use your imagination works too!

Oldee
11-04-11, 22:11
Close your eyes and use your imagination works too!Yeah, and in worst case situations, you MIGHT have to close your nose and ears too, LOL. However, I believe you're safe if you not past waipahu.

Jehuty
11-05-11, 06:06
I stay at EG's right now and some donkey LVB bought 10 shots off the bat.

Alohaoe
11-05-11, 21:16
I stay at EG's right now and some donkey LVB bought 10 shots off the bat.Don't laugh at him he will eat some hair pie during the week. I had a girl at EG 10 shots I also had hair pie during the week.

Enjoy your McDonals burger.

Happy Mongering

Supraman
11-05-11, 23:03
Yeah, and in worst case situations, you MIGHT have to close your nose and ears too, LOL. However, I believe you're safe if you not past waipahu.The more you consume the looks becomes more attractive!

KBGmonger
11-06-11, 02:04
Casino Wii reopen undetermined the same name on 11/15/11. Hope it a jack shack.

Hello Kitty
11-06-11, 02:11
So I'm here watching the UH game 8:00. 27/7. Half time so anyone know who the the bartender in the one piece black dress?

Vernon Howell
11-06-11, 08:32
Evergreen kbg "how about you buy me drink and I sit with your friend." Friend says how I about I buy you food and you can eat with us."kbg I not hungry though" friend well I no mo money for drinks I hungry. Kbg leaves and never comeback. Now no I no one wants to serve us. Cause we no like buy drinks.

H Mobius
11-06-11, 10:57
Evergreen just hired a "Protection Specialist"; a big though not massive dude in a black shirt with that title on it. He was hanging by the sushi bar (site of a posted recent girly fight) but later roamed the club. As far as I know, that's a KB-first.

D' Amour was packed and I saw several new girls; nothing fantastic and certainly not as hot as those at Camelot, but still an improvement compared to recent months when they had mostly 40 and 50-somethings.

Kapakahi
11-06-11, 20:31
If EG needs a Protection Specialist, that further lets me know that the joint is anticipating trouble and is unsafe; something's definitely wrong. HM, thanks for the info.

Kapakahi
11-06-11, 20:40
Evergreen kbg "how about you buy me drink and I sit with your friend." Now no I no one wants to serve us. Cause we no like buy drinks.Heard that even the two thugs working there acting like KBGs; no service from Brian & Ron unless they get nekos. Sheesh, what's this island coming to?

Kapakahi
11-06-11, 23:15
D' Amour was packed and I saw several new girls; nothing fantastic and certainly not as hot as those at Camelot, but still an improvement compared to recent months when they had mostly 40 and 50-somethings.D'amour and Pharaoh both full house for the UH game; all booths and some counter seats reserved. Twilight has an "invitation only" policy and includes a buffet; maybe you high-rolling LVBs and smooth-talking NEONs can get in with your charms. Anyway, the game must have been of great interest and sadly ended in disappointment and disapproval (depending on the reasons). Be careful during APEC as various domestic and international security agents (not the EG one) are not fooling around.

GucciLove
11-07-11, 07:27
Mina the hot half J and half K chickatEG move to Business now. How sad. They only open till 2am.

All In
11-07-11, 15:29
D'amour and Pharaoh both full house for the UH game; all booths and some counter seats reserved. Twilight has an "invitation only" policy and includes a buffet; maybe you high-rolling LVBs and smooth-talking NEONs can get in with your charms. Anyway, the game must have been of great interest and sadly ended in disappointment and disapproval (depending on the reasons). Be careful during APEC as various domestic and international security agents (not the EG one) are not fooling around.Where is Twilight?

All In
11-07-11, 15:33
Evergreen just hired a "Protection Specialist"; a big though not massive dude in a black shirt with that title on it. He was hanging by the sushi bar (site of a posted recent girly fight) but later roamed the club. As far as I know, that's a KB-first.

D' Amour was packed and I saw several new girls; nothing fantastic and certainly not as hot as those at Camelot, but still an improvement compared to recent months when they had mostly 40 and 50-somethings.This bar fight by sushi bar, was it Nazly and Tina from Diamond? I remember someone posting that Nazly was fighting in EG. Nazly Fuller is bg from Diamond Club. So is Tina

Jj6969
11-07-11, 17:42
Casino Wii reopen undetermined the same name on 11/15/11. Hope it a jack shack.Hopefully it will be better than Butterfly. Noticed a mass exit of girls from Butterfly to Business. TC must be up to her crazy tantrums again.

Jehuty
11-07-11, 19:27
If EG needs a Protection Specialist, that further lets me know that the joint is anticipating trouble and is unsafe; something's definitely wrong. HM, thanks for the info.Get trouble there. I seen young guys get punchy and try for start fights a couple times on different occasions.

Member 69
11-08-11, 01:52
Heard that even the two thugs working there acting like KBGs; no service from Brian & Ron unless they get nekos. Sheesh, what's this island coming to?I thought I was the only one not getting served. I waited right in front and the *sshole bartenders just ignored me. They helped all the girls with their drinks but ignored the guy customers unless they knew him. Maybe they need the bouncers to prevent the customers from kicking their *sses. Maya should fire these two guys. It's all right with me, I'll just sit at the table and not buy any drinks.

On another note, I was at business during the UH game Lots of new girls, I counted 4 girls from evergreen working there now. A girl or two from butterfly. Not sure what's going on. New mama at business also, maybe the old mama is going to take over napa valley? Just heard the rumor, not sure how true it is.

H Mobius
11-08-11, 07:09
This bar fight by sushi bar, was it Nazly and Tina from Diamond? I remember someone posting that Nazly was fighting in EG. Nazly Fuller is bg from Diamond Club. So is TinaI don't remember names being named in that report. Someone else chimed in; that report might have names but I did not search.

All In: Twilight (formerly Hello Eve) is just Diamond Head of Evergreen and faces Kapiolani Boulevard. They are right next to the parking lot exit for Romantei and Sandy's Place.

H Mobius
11-08-11, 07:18
Get trouble there. I seen young guys get punchy and try for start fights a couple times on different occasions.That's true. What these young dummies need to realize is that a lot of guys (especially older guys) are well-connected, potentially leading to unfortunate consequences.

Kapakahi
11-08-11, 11:00
•EG seems to have various problems up the ying yang: avoid the joint until fighting, service, security, safety, & attitude concerns are resolved, IMO; last thing you want is a meaningless confrontation causing injury (ies) ; •Exodus to Business will be short-lived; KBGs gravitate to whomever will promise them the best deals (promises don't last long in a KB) ; •KBGs and KBGuys only see the hard, bottom line; can't blame them but conversely, everybody can spot greed a mile away. •Slowly, but surely, everything always plays itself out and in the end "it was just a dream." •Lastly, contrary to opinion, boycotts, protests, and NEONs do work in subtle, subsurface ways.

Jehuty
11-08-11, 13:17
Ron that guy make like. I thought he was cool we talk story one time and had a good conversation. Before I left he tell me "no make stranger eh" next time I come. I come one other time. I see him outside EG and tell him hey hows it and the monkey give me the "who you" kind act. Whatevers I go for the eye candy not the dudes anyway.

Blade82
11-08-11, 14:24
I thought I was the only one not getting served. I waited right in front and the *sshole bartenders just ignored me. They helped all the girls with their drinks but ignored the guy customers unless they knew him. Maybe they need the bouncers to prevent the customers from kicking their *sses. Maya should fire these two guys. It's all right with me, I'll just sit at the table and not buy any drinksThe weekday bartender Brian has a rep to be an ass. There have been various reports about him in fact some believe he is a member on THIS forum.

Blade82
11-08-11, 14:33
Get trouble there. I seen young guys get punchy and try for start fights a couple times on different occasions.Yeah I myself was part of an incident there back when Miki was running things. The thing that pissed me off was the bartenders saw what was going on and various people around the bar advised to cut their drinks. Well long story short they didn't and the rest is history. The guys dug as soon as the cops came and Miki tried to suck up to them so they would leave peacefully. Was pretty pathetic

Lumpia808
11-08-11, 22:31
Anybody seen that girl Rachel at EG? She wears a big bowtie in her hair. Damn haven't seen a cute bg like that in a while.

As far as fights at EG I had a moke guy call out my friend for no reason. Guy just comes up to our table and ask my friend if he train (as in MMA) Must of came from Triple D.

I noticed more foot traffic from the younger crowd lately at EG. When I started out 2 years ago I hardly ever saw people of my age, maybe back then they were scared of the vultures that used to be by kapiolani side entrance. I know I was LOL.

Jehuty
11-09-11, 00:48
I've seen her and she is hot. She high in demand though I can see why. Ha, sometimes it looks like she being put to work cause I've seen Mama N jack her from one customer to give to a "baller" customer. Her bowtie is her trademark because I hear the other girls refer to her as the bowtie girl. Even had one of the other girls try for copy cat sporting the bow too one time.

Blade82
11-09-11, 08:17
Anybody seen that girl Rachel at EG? She wears a big bowtie in her hair. Damn haven't seen a cute bg like that in a while.

As far as fights at EG I had a moke guy call out my friend for no reason. Guy just comes up to our table and ask my friend if he train (as in MMA) Must of came from Triple D.

I noticed more foot traffic from the younger crowd lately at EG. When I started out 2 years ago I hardly ever saw people of my age, maybe back then they were scared of the vultures that used to be by kapiolani side entrance. I know I was LOL.During the beginning of the Miki years there use to be a lot of young dudes. Back when you had to get there by1:30 am or else you wouldn't get a seat. But we all know what happened to that place, leading to people not going. Now Maya is in, and I guess word is going around that EG is the hotspot again. I know it sounds weird but it seems like the busier it is, less chance on crap breaking out. Thats just based on what I've seen in the past, and I seen too much crap there.

Dvs808
11-09-11, 18:26
Heard that even the two thugs working there acting like KBGs; no service from Brian & Ron unless they get nekos. Sheesh, what's this island coming to?You are so right about Brian & Ron. If you don't buy them drinks. They don't even give you the time of day. Must be the name. It seem all Brians' are a-holes.

Blade82
11-10-11, 08:34
You are so right about Brian & Ron. If you don't buy them drinks. They don't even give you the time of day. Must be the name. It seem all Brians' are a-holes.To this day I still don't understand how Ron survives. He not even a bartender or waiter, but a male host. When people buy him drinks, it seems like he just with the guys. Shit maybe I should start doing his job. But I can understand why he wouldn't serve if no drinks, Brian on the otherhand should really get his crap straight. Thank god he don't work on weekends.

Kapakahi
11-10-11, 11:46
To this day I still don't understand how Ron survives. He not even a bartender or waiter, but a male host. When people buy him drinks, it seems like he just with the guys. Shit maybe I should start doing his job. But I can understand why he wouldn't serve if no drinks, Brian on the otherhand should really get his crap straight. Thank god he don't work on weekends.Ron's getting progressively worse from the time he first started being a day bartender at Napa Valley. At the beginning he was a barback who did the food prep, cooking, and service. Sadly, he has evolved into a KBGuy, pilut, and KBG-like morph. Brian (Curtis) used to follow Maya (amongst others) around the KBs. He's a crappy wannabee gambler and broke-ass cook in a hospital. He has always had an attitude problem about being a thug but is actually a coward if he is confronted; also rumored to be married to Maya, so he has evolved into a fat ho. A KBG-like drunkard and a wannabee fat gambler man ho in one place. Pricelass. Have mercy on them.

Speaking of Napa Valley. Spoke to Candy briefly and she appears ready to retire although we didn't talk about such. No longer cares about her appearance and seems to have quit on a number of fronts. Too bad because I like her from the old Blue Ribbon days which was part of the now BMW / Bug Eye dealership.

Warriors808
11-10-11, 12:52
Ron's getting progressively worse from the time he first started being a day bartender at Napa Valley. At the beginning he was a barback who did the food prep, cooking, and service. Sadly, he has evolved into a KBGuy, pilut, and KBG-like morph. Brian (Curtis) used to follow Maya (amongst others) around the KBs. He's a crappy wannabee gambler and broke-ass cook in a hospital. He has always had an attitude problem about being a thug but is actually a coward if he is confronted; also rumored to be married to Maya, so he has evolved into a fat ho. A KBG-like drunkard and a wannabee fat gambler man ho in one place. Pricelass. Have mercy on them.Brian is married to a former KBG. She used to work for Maya as a daytime bartendress. Used to be partners with Yuri. The current daytime bartendress on Tues. & Wed. Brian just had a baby recently. Yea, also heard the rumor that Brian used to be Maya's BF. Heard it from another KBG mama who was very close to Maya.

Add to the list of KBG-like morh. Brian of Camelot. I guess both are called Brian because both of them has no "Brains".

Blade82
11-10-11, 18:59
Ron's getting progressively worse from the time he first started being a day bartender at Napa Valley. At the beginning he was a barback who did the food prep, cooking, and service. Sadly, he has evolved into a KBGuy, pilut, and KBG-like morph. Brian (Curtis) used to follow Maya (amongst others) around the KBs. He's a crappy wannabee gambler and broke-ass cook in a hospital. He has always had an attitude problem about being a thug but is actually a coward if he is confronted; also rumored to be married to Maya, so he has evolved into a fat ho. A KBG-like drunkard and a wannabee fat gambler man ho in one place. Pricelass. Have mercy on them.

Speaking of Napa Valley. Spoke to Candy briefly and she appears ready to retire although we didn't talk about such. No longer cares about her appearance and seems to have quit on a number of fronts. Too bad because I like her from the old Blue Ribbon days which was part of the now BMW / Bug Eye dealership.WTF Brian is his alias? Who the hell would care who he really is? Does Ron play for the other team? If you know what I mean. I can't understand why he would be a KBGuy in a hostess club.

Kapakahi
11-11-11, 05:05
WTF Brian is his alias? Who the hell would care who he really is? Does Ron play for the other team? If you know what I mean. I can't understand why he would be a KBGuy in a hostess club.EG "Brian" is the bar name Curtis uses for whatever reason (s) ; maybe he has something to hide or needs a stage name because he's a celebrity. Ron used to be employed elsewhere but has totally transformed into a KBGuy; where else can you get drunk and make money daily? He may not be employable in his present condition and has gone over to the darkside many years ago. The KB World is a subculture full of goings on.

Jehuty
11-11-11, 18:56
During APEC week? I know no more parking town side.

Uki Eater
11-12-11, 03:09
During APEC week? I know no more parking town side.Yeah. I notice on Makaloa Street, had signs that can't park from 5-8pm. Would be nuts if APEC was Asias Prettiest Exotic Chicks and 20, 000 fine ass Asian women were coming down. Damn!

Stoner1
11-12-11, 06:26
Brian is married to a former KBG. She used to work for Maya as a daytime bartendress. Used to be partners with Yuri. The current daytime bartendress on Tues. & Wed. Brian just had a baby recently. Yea, also heard the rumor that Brian used to be Maya's BF. Heard it from another KBG mama who was very close to Maya.

Add to the list of KBG-like morh. Brian of Camelot. I guess both are called Brian because both of them has no "Brains".Just wondering. WTF is Cameltoes Brian's problem? Maybe he used to get beat-up in his highschool days? Receding hairline? (so is mine) Boyfriend cum too fast?

Kapakahi
11-12-11, 12:39
Just wondering. WTF is Cameltoes Brian's problem? Maybe he used to get beat-up in his highschool days? Receding hairline? (so is mine) Boyfriend cum too fast?Cammy Brian actually one decent guy and not that bad; very loyal to Patty, trying to be a good soldier. His style is too much for me but it's the persona he chooses to survive all these years, I guess. The other Brian (Curtis) at EG is a true asso who needs to go to school and be taught some lessons. He's thaaat (=) close.

TheLegend33
11-12-11, 19:08
Just wondering. WTF is Cameltoes Brian's problem? Maybe he used to get beat-up in his highschool days? Receding hairline? (so is mine) Boyfriend cum too fast?Whose the second Brian. Not Camelot Brian?

TheLegend33
11-12-11, 19:26
All barbacks soon get "climatized" by the bar environment (lies, rubbing noses, etc.). I agree with everyone that "Brian" at EG only is friendly to you if you buy him a drink, and snubs you if you're a cheapass. Now, whose Candy? Is she the cutie that started working again?


WTF Brian is his alias? Who the hell would care who he really is? Does Ron play for the other team? If you know what I mean. I can't understand why he would be a KBGuy in a hostess club.

TheLegend33
11-12-11, 19:37
Mina is hot, but will only give you the time of the day if she feels you're a cash cow. One drinkie guy, not going to cut it. I will just look and enjoy and not spend the money. You're better off.


Mina the hot half J and half K chickatEG move to Business now. How sad. They only open till 2am.

H Mobius
11-12-11, 20:18
Just wondering. WTF is Cameltoes Brian's problem? Maybe he used to get beat-up in his highschool days? Receding hairline? (so is mine) Boyfriend cum too fast?I don't know but he's cranky as hell. One night I almost snapped at him for giving me attitude, back when he was bartending at Evergreen. I basically never go to Camelot unless 'dragged along', but when I order a drink he looks so pissed and tosses the change onto the mat. A reliable source as well as posts from other members claim he is just that way; IMHO then he shouldn't be dealing with the public especially in an area known for street violence.

H Mobius
11-12-11, 20:35
During APEC week? I know no more parking town side.Yup. For a Friday, lots of spaces on the Kapiolani, Sheridan and Makaloa Street bar block. Traffic was light on Kapiolani too; usually it's a slow-down expecially near 24-Hour Fitness.

Warriors808
11-12-11, 21:46
I don't know but he's cranky as hell. One night I almost snapped at him for giving me attitude, back when he was bartending at Evergreen. I basically never go to Camelot unless 'dragged along', but when I order a drink he looks so pissed and tosses the change onto the mat. A reliable source as well as posts from other members claim he is just that way; IMHO then he shouldn't be dealing with the public especially in an area known for street violence.HM. He's just a legend in his on mind. I guess he isn't getting any from his green card marriage from the KBG from Moonflower. Hope he is reading this.

Peckerwood
11-12-11, 22:02
My drinking buddies know him pretty well. One time I got there late, no chair available at the bar so I stood on the side of one of my friends, he kept ignoring me even though he saw me walk in and I didn't get my first beer until one of them said that I was a friend of theirs. What a fkn d__k

Pors997
11-12-11, 22:57
HM. He's just a legend in his on mind. I guess he isn't getting any from his green card marriage from the KBG from Moonflower. Hope he is reading this.I heard he is being investigated by Feds. He just got divorced and it is his fourth divorce with KBG. His latest ex works at Cameltoes.

Tiredguy
11-15-11, 01:44
[QUOTE=Kapakahi; 1314995]Ron's getting progressively worse from the time he first started being a day bartender at Napa Valley. At the beginning he was a barback who did the food prep, cooking, and service. Sadly, he has evolved into a KBGuy, pilut, and KBG-like morph. Brian (Curtis) used to follow Maya (amongst others) around the KBs. He's a crappy wannabee gambler and broke-ass cook in a hospital. He has always had an attitude problem about being a thug but is actually a coward if he is confronted; also rumored to be married to Maya, so he has evolved into a fat ho. A KBG-like drunkard and a wannabee fat gambler man ho in one place. Pricelass. Have mercy on them.

I've never bought a drink for Ron. And he actually has been fairly nice to me. I always tip for the food that he brings (he offers first) , but I do wonder what the heck he is doing getting guys to buy him drinks.

Here's my own personal economic plan. Korean bars are OK for watching ball games, VB's are good when you want a little of both and AMPs are the place to go after the game. I do wish the Thai places offered the real thing.

LocalGuy808
11-15-11, 02:28
Saw an ad in the paper today for club 904 re-opening up at former CK. What is now Illusions in Kalihi I guess. Says Chong Min is back.

Who is Chong Min?

Kapakahi
11-15-11, 14:51
Here's my own personal economic plan. Korean bars are OK for watching ball games, VB's are good when you want a little of both and AMPs are the place to go after the game.A plan with priorities is a good thing to have. That way your mind is set in advance and the chances of making undisciplined mistakes are minimal. I'm not talking about a rigid, structured, and robotic plan but something like a dress rehearsal in case of a sudden KBG tsunami or earthquake.

Jake1213
11-15-11, 17:31
My drinking buddies know him pretty well. One time I got there late, no chair available at the bar so I stood on the side of one of my friends, he kept ignoring me even though he saw me walk in and I didn't get my first beer until one of them said that I was a friend of theirs. What a fkn d__kWhy even waste space on a lily such as Brian. He is afraid of his own shadow and only hits girls. Come on now enough of this girl looking like a fat guy, there is much better things to discuss. I just had to say something about this jerk. I normally do not give negative info about guys but this is an exception.

Amer Expr
11-15-11, 20:34
Saw an ad in the paper today for club 904 re-opening up at former CK. What is now Illusions in Kalihi I guess. Says Chong Min is back.

Who is Chong Min?Chong Min is the C in "C&K". Probably going to have the same girls she used to have before.

And by the way, the mama from Illusion (Sun / Sunny?) is supposed to take over Casino on Kapiolani in.

Partnership with the "old" mama from Casino. That mama was a kinda young Korean girl Julie / Julia (?).

Supposed to open Dec some time.

Amer Expr
11-16-11, 14:15
Chong Min is the C in "C&K". Probably going to have the same girls she used to have before.

And by the way, the mama from Illusion (Sun / Sunny?) is supposed to take over Casino on Kapiolani in.

Partnership with the "old" mama from Casino. That mama was a kinda young Korean girl Julie / Julia (?).

Supposed to open Dec some time.Meant the old CK Lounge, not the famous C&K duo.

Last night Kalihi was dead. Paradise looks like it's on its last leg. Walked in, didn't see any women, maybe all in booths.

Clique was slow. Had only few customers on the bar, ladies playing machines.

Islander was dead.

Club 904 light was on, walked in."not open for business yet, come back tomorrow", but mama gave me a free beer anyway!

Hope all these ladies in Kalihi got sugar daddies!

Drink safely.

Mushi
11-16-11, 14:20
Sun said they open December 1st. Doing renovation now.

KBGmonger
11-16-11, 15:38
Went in for a drink last night. The place was loaded with hotties. Three were with customers and about 8 more sitting at the table. All hot. I was just on a recon for when I have more time. I was pleasantly surprised.

Captin Crunch
11-17-11, 01:33
I heard Islander got broken into and thefts got away with all the money in the video machines.

I0000I
11-17-11, 04:59
HM. He's just a legend in his on mind. I guess he isn't getting any from his green card marriage from the KBG from Moonflower. Hope he is reading this.Wife Beater!

I0000I
11-17-11, 05:05
Club 904 light was on, walked in."not open for business yet, come back tomorrow", but mama gave me a free beer anyway!

Hope all these ladies in Kalihi got sugar daddies!

Drink safely.Thats the mama who is married to cop right? Was there Tuesday night. Only group of guys in the booth.

I0000I
11-17-11, 05:06
I heard Islander got broken into and thefts got away with all the money in the video machines.Splash got hit on Monday night.

Kapakahi
11-17-11, 15:19
I heard Islander got broken into and thefts got away with all the money in the video machines.Splash, Twilight, etc. The recession of '76-78 produced thieves who would wait until the bars closed and huli the bags of KBGs walking through the parking lot. There were cases of KBGs who were robbed at their building parking lots and rooms. ROBs got robbed by thieves.

Those machines carry upwards of $three grand per, so it may seem worth the risk; if you get caught it won't be by HPD.

Blacks
11-18-11, 21:52
Just heard a girl I used to see passed away this year. Was wondering what happen to her. Hana had cancer and passed away in Korea with her family. Her Mother and sister too her bad earlier this year. She a quite, attractive woman. She it drink alot, lived alone in Saltlake. Her friend bought her black Ponitac. I sure some of you kalihi bar hopper knew her. RIP Hana, will miss your sexy smile!

Stoner1
11-18-11, 23:11
Splash, Twilight, etc. The recession of '76-78 produced thieves who would wait until the bars closed and huli the bags of KBGs walking through the parking lot. There were cases of KBGs who were robbed at their building parking lots and rooms. ROBs got robbed by thieves.

Those machines carry upwards of $three grand per, so it may seem worth the risk; if you get caught it won't be by HPD.ROBs getting robbed. I guess what goes around.

John Ross
11-19-11, 02:18
Just heard a girl I used to see passed away this year. Was wondering what happen to her. Hana had cancer and passed away in Korea with her family. Her Mother and sister too her bad earlier this year. She a quite, attractive woman. She it drink alot, lived alone in Saltlake. Her friend bought her black Ponitac. I sure some of you kalihi bar hopper knew her. RIP Hana, will miss your sexy smile!Was she from Maui and worked at the Vegas 3 location about 5 years ago and took over as mama? Tall, long hair with bolt ons that went to Las Vegas every so often?

LocalGuy808
11-19-11, 05:50
Was she from Maui and worked at the Vegas 3 location about 5 years ago and took over as mama? Tall, long hair with bolt ons that went to Las Vegas every so often?JR I am thinking of the same hana you are. If so, I had sent her a text earlier today as I hadn't seen her for some time. She had taken over the old one way lounge for a while.

Kapakahi
11-19-11, 13:57
ROBs getting robbed. I guess what goes around.Does. I don't know of a single BG who has kept, is keeping, or will keep whatever they make from their monkey business. They seem to slip in the banana peel and knock themselves out; universal justice from the heavens.

Blacks
11-19-11, 16:09
Was she from Maui and worked at the Vegas 3 location about 5 years ago and took over as mama? Tall, long hair with bolt ons that went to Las Vegas every so often?No she never was too much into the bar scene. 1st met her at the bar next to megs drive inn, about 6-years ago. She drove a black Pontiac from that time til this yr. She was about 5' 3" barefoot. Mid 40's good looking very nice smile, drank every chance she had. Moved to several bars. At least once or twice a year. Lived alone, moved here from the mainland after a divorce. No bolt ons. 100% natural.

KBGmonger
11-20-11, 02:05
There are some hotties here. One LVB a few tables away is spending a ton on food and drink getting zero play. Fool. The guy has on game or rap. The KBG is playing with her phone when she is not going for drinks.

Pursuer
11-20-11, 03:23
JR I am thinking of the same hana you are. If so, I had sent her a text earlier today as I hadn't seen her for some time. She had taken over the old one way lounge for a while.Wow. If it's the Hana who Moon and JR are talking about, she went fast. She was mama at JaKiYa (old One-Way) less than 8 or 9 months ago. But I think the one Black reported on is a different Hana. I think the Jakiya Hana drove a silver benz, looked to have store bought tits, was more like 5'6", and was mama at Vegas II about 3 years ago.

Jehuty
11-20-11, 10:43
Is back. She's at Splash if any of you used to see her before. Just giving the 411.

Lumpia808
11-20-11, 17:14
Is back. She's at Splash if any of you used to see her before. Just giving the 411.I was suprised to see her too. She was gone since March. Guess she had to work Splash since Damour got a new coco (the pornstar katsumi clone).

H Mobius
11-20-11, 18:36
I was suprised to see her too. She was gone since March. Guess she had to work Splash since Damour got a new coco (the pornstar katsumi clone).There's a jgirl named Marika at D' Amour; thick build (nice thighs/breasts) and tanned from surfing. I wouldn't be able to say which PS she resembles though :).

Johnny14
11-20-11, 21:46
Wow. If it's the Hana who Moon and JR are talking about, she went fast. She was mama at JaKiYa (old One-Way) less than 8 or 9 months ago. But I think the one Black reported on is a different Hana. I think the Jakiya Hana drove a silver benz, looked to have store bought tits, was more like 5'6", and was mama at Vegas II about 3 years ago.Post a picture

Mushi
11-21-11, 14:13
No she never was too much into the bar scene. 1st met her at the bar next to megs drive inn, about 6-years ago. She drove a black Pontiac from that time til this yr. She was about 5' 3" barefoot. Mid 40's good looking very nice smile, drank every chance she had. Moved to several bars. At least once or twice a year. Lived alone, moved here from the mainland after a divorce. No bolt ons. 100% natural.Did she have like long perm'd or wavy hair?

Oldee
11-22-11, 07:38
Seems APEC had no effect on the bar scene and just the usual musical chairs game among KBGs changing bars. Its the same ole same ole with the with LVBs still being LVBs. Although bars seem slower overall, there doesn't seem to be a shortage of sucker LVBs young and old. Regarding barbacks, almost ALL of them have ties to KBGs as being a BF or at least a LVB. Thats how they got the job! There are only a few really on our side. When I sit at the bar these days, I look around and see so few of us neon / sukebe guys compared to the pathetic LVBs kissing as. I think I need to start a LVB ANNOMOUS program and help these guys, hehe.

Blacks
11-22-11, 09:26
Did she have like long perm'd or wavy hair?Wavy yes. Long about average.

Blacks
11-22-11, 09:28
Post a pictureYour right its not the Hana mama. This Hana never was a Mama. Shorter then 5' 6" more like 5' 3".

Kapakahi
11-22-11, 12:14
.almost ALL of them have ties to KBGs as being a BF or at least a LVB. Thats how they got the job! There are only a few really on our side. When I sit at the bar these days, I look around and see so few of us neon / sukebe guys compared to the pathetic LVBs kissing as. I think I need to start a LVB ANNOMOUS program and help these guys, hehe.Not only is the service crappy (Sunny & partneratD'amour, dayshift) at KBs but the amount of KBGuy morphs are on the rise. These morphs clearly need to be watched as they are usually weak-minded, know-it-all types who are free KBG taxis and watch KDramas as though they were real; they're always right and you're always wrong; they're actually parakeets who repeat everything they hear and read but call it their own. These types are like weird cat (not animal) lovers who try to feed and water unappreciative, detached pussies. It's getting weirder out there.

Warriors808
11-22-11, 15:11
Not only is the service crappy (Sunny & partneratD'amour, dayshift) at KBs but the amount of KBGuy morphs are on the rise. These morphs clearly need to be watched as they are usually weak-minded, know-it-all types who are free KBG taxis and watch KDramas as though they were real; they're always right and you're always wrong; they're actually parakeets who repeat everything they hear and read but call it their own. These types are like weird cat (not animal) lovers who try to feed and water unappreciative, detached pussies. It's getting weirder out there.How true. They are all legends in their own mimds. Just to name a few - D'Amour.Sean, Calvin and the good morning guy (forgot his name) , Evergreen. Ron, Brian, and Tyler Butterfly. Jerry, and Camelot. Brian. Why are all of these guys in the KbG world of make believe?

Blade82
11-22-11, 18:22
How true. They are all legends in their own mimds. Just to name a few - D'Amour.Sean, Calvin and the good morning guy (forgot his name) , Evergreen. Ron, Brian, and Tyler Butterfly. Jerry, and Camelot. Brian. Why are all of these guys in the KbG world of make believe?In my personal experience Brian from Camelot can be pretty cool if you make an effort to talk to him. Sean is also ok but can seem a little snobby at times. The best are probably Daren from EG, Albert and Chad from Pharoh and Paul from Damour. All down to earth guys

Kapakahi
11-23-11, 00:45
How true. They are all legends in their own mimds. Why are all of these guys in the KbG world of make believe?They enjoy, identify with, and are a part of the underworld subculture of the KBs. Their incomes are largely untaxed and are able to engage in monkey business (if any) without many restraints; easy money with connections to the darkside. Granted, there are those who legitimately use the KBs as primary or secondary income but still hardly report the cash money. Those who choose to come "in" Wonderland need to deal with all the characters there; only to find out later that it is much more difficult to leave Oz.

John Ross
11-23-11, 06:11
Great to be back in Hawaii. Have been on deployment overseas. I am looking for Kelly Geressy who worked at Camelot. She recently changed her phone number so any help would be greatly appreciated. I still have my old number so if any of her friends see her ask her to call me. I did hear she bought a brand new red Mercedes and was seeing an HPD officer. I know she goes back and forth to Vegas and California but I will be here until January. She is half Korean and half Italian. We had a lot of fun together and although she made more in a night than I did in a week, it was worth it. I can send some photos if that would help but they are special and prefer not to. I did read some of the old postings on her but nothing recently. Support your Military. ColonelO6. Just go to Camelot and talk to Patty. She probably has "Kelly's" number and can call her in for you to see her. She has been in and out of the KB business for the past ten years, so I'm sure she will come back one day. Other than that, you can try the search sites using her real name and you should pull up some info on her.

KBGmonger
11-23-11, 22:43
ROBs getting robbed. I guess what goes around.I was walking on Amana Street a few years ago and a dude came by on a bicycle and grabbed the KBGs handbag. It was not a clean grab so the guy fell, had the girls purse, and started pedaling to beat the band. I was able to catch the guy and he hurled the purse at me and took off again. I recovered the purse so did not pursue. Never even got laid out of the deal. The KBG moved to Maui and I never saw het again. Ironically, saw her walking down Amana a couple of weeks ago and she said she would be at the all night spot on lower Koreamoku, I forgot the name. Anyway, I have not followed up. This was a brazen daylight attempt, now I wish I had never gotten back her bag. Ungrateful KBG.

Hello Kitty
11-24-11, 19:17
Ungrateful KBG.Kbg are evil people that take us for granted.

KBGmonger
11-25-11, 04:41
Went by Cumalot last night to have a drink and look at the talent. One word. Outfrikinstanding. Damn. Really a lot of hotties in there. All young and hot. I don't see much in the way of takeout potential. Really a fine stable of Wahine though. I would predict many of them have bfs.

Uki Eater
11-25-11, 18:45
Went in for a drink last night. The place was loaded with hotties. Three were with customers and about 8 more sitting at the table. All hot. I was just on a recon for when I have more time. I was pleasantly surprised.Checked out Moonflowers. Had new girls there but, I wouldn't say alot of them were hot. I seen one that looked pretty good. She's on the older side but damn she looks good. Got to be in her 30s at least. Other than that, the others look alright looking. They definitely have more girls there than before.

Dell808
11-26-11, 01:58
Not only is the service crappy (Sunny & partneratD'amour, dayshift) at KBs but the amount of KBGuy morphs are on the rise. These morphs clearly need to be watched as they are usually weak-minded, know-it-all types who are free KBG taxis and watch KDramas as though they were real; they're always right and you're always wrong; they're actually parakeets who repeat everything they hear and read but call it their own. These types are like weird cat (not animal) lovers who try to feed and water unappreciative, detached pussies. It's getting weirder out there.Are these morphs working guys at the bars? What's a LVB?

Thanks

Uki Eater
11-26-11, 02:51
Are these morphs working guys at the bars? What's a LVB?

ThanksHe's referring to the many LVB (loverboys) who cater to the BGs (bargirls) or women in general. Very typical for most of us guys to be in that mode, especially when you like a particular woman. The soft, mushy side of you comes out. You're in the unmasculine mode. Hehe.

Stoner1
11-26-11, 03:12
Or is it an acquired skill from years of wasting away in the bar. I think many already have an evil side that just manifests and infects them to the core. Every penny spent on them just makes them worse. Kinda like a crackhead. Except money is their rock.

Jj6969
11-26-11, 03:42
Or is it an acquired skill from years of wasting away in the bar. I think many already have an evil side that just manifests and infects them to the core. Every penny spent on them just makes them worse. Kinda like a crackhead. Except money is their rock.I don't think working in the KB's is a skill but a disease or a mutation that takes over a sane and good person and turns them evil. I don't think it's a Korean thing either because it makes the local people that work in the bar think the same way. It's like if you don't adapt to the bar mentality you don't survive. Money makes people do very bad things! Your only drawback is how far will you go to get what you want.

Hello Kitty
11-26-11, 06:59
Went to Bonitas lastnight but never see her. Anybody know were she went?

Kapakahi
11-26-11, 12:03
Are these morphs working guys at the bars? What's a LVB? ThanksThe morphs in question are my interpretation of regular, local guys who have somehow "morphed" into KBG-like beings whether they work in the KBs or not. They have totally assimilated into the KB lifestyle and defend the actions of KBGs as valid and necessary. Of course, IMO.

Warriors808
11-26-11, 13:18
Went to Bonitas lastnight but never see her. Anybody know were she went?She might be going to Casino when it opens Dec. 01. Just my guess since the mama from Illusion will be moving to Casino.

Hello Kitty
11-26-11, 13:51
She might be going to Casino when it opens Dec. 01. Just my guess since the mama from Illusion will be moving to Casino.Thats not really a good sign. Shit I wanted to test my new phone with flash. I guess no tittie pixs for me. Thanks Warriors808.

Kapakahi
11-26-11, 15:31
I think many already have an evil side that just manifests and infects them to the core. Every penny spent on them just makes them worse. Kinda like a crackhead. Except money is their rock.They need money for whatever expenses they have incurred. Since the need seems to be desperate in most cases it could be inferred that the reasons might be suspicious or evil. You won't get the truth from the KBGs anyway so why care? Sounds callous but self-preservation is better than filling an endless KBG money pit.

Blacks
11-26-11, 17:23
Kbg are evil people that take us for granted.Sounds like someone burned you. Or they made a promise and never kept it, you must learn not believe everything you hear.

Blacks
11-26-11, 17:27
They enjoy, identify with, and are a part of the underworld subculture of the KBs. Their incomes are largely untaxed and are able to engage in monkey business (if any) without many restraints; easy money with connections to the darkside. Granted, there are those who legitimately use the KBs as primary or secondary income but still hardly report the cash money. Those who choose to come "in" Wonderland need to deal with all the characters there; only to find out later that it is much more difficult to leave Oz.Its all part of growing up! Its like anything and evreywhere in life. Its all the same to matter were you go. You have to learn when to trust and how to build loyality. For me it has helped me in the 30+ ys. I learned very early on in my bar days. I hope you will use this to yours.

Stoner1
11-26-11, 21:17
Or is it an acquired skill from years of wasting away in the bar. I think many already have an evil side that just manifests and infects them to the core. Every penny spent on them just makes them worse. Kinda like a crackhead. Except money is their rock.. Sorry fellas I posted this in the wrong forum it was s'posed to be in 'tactics' good looking out bro Oldee.

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Hello Kitty
11-27-11, 02:34
Sounds like someone burned you. Or they made a promise and never kept it, you must learn not believe everything you hear.Thats funny cause I promise this kbg that I will never post on the internet again and quit drinking. Must have rub that shit from them.

Uki Eater
11-27-11, 04:41
Sounds callous but self-preservation is better than filling an endless KBG money pit.Good point. BGs being smart where they are thinking about self preservation vs feeling bad over some LVB customer. Why invest time / money into someone whom you think cares but doesn't give a damn? You're doing things & spending money on a BG far more than she will ever do for you in return.

YG365
11-27-11, 05:02
I actually dated a KBG before I even knew she was a KBG. It was really fun while it lasted and I got to meet a lot of KBG's outside of work here and the mainland. The age different was about 8 years with me being younger which really made it exciting I guess for both of us. I guess in the end, things just didn't work out because of her lifestyle and work plus our age gap.

While we were dating, things were really great! She treated me really well and I'm pretty sure spent more money than I in the relationship. She use to buy clothes, watches, sunglasses, etc. Without me even asking for things. I also saw the good real side of a lot of KBG's and got along with most of them.

So what I'm basically saying is, they have 2 sides to them. They make really good girlfriends and probably even wives when you get a chance. But it's really really difficult to infiltrate that side of them. At work, they sort of have a protective shell around them and they question the motive of everything you do for them because they probably got burned a time or two in the past. You could be the nicest guy in the world but if you go into a Korean Bar to see them, it raises suspicion. They'll always think something is up and you're probably not real Boyfriend material seeing as how you go to that type of place.

P. S. If you want to make one of them your gf or wife and give up the bar scene, you're going to need to be able to support them financially. They pretty much have no other job skill that is prestigious enough and pays enough for them to give up their pride and work.

Goodluck fella's!

Hello Kitty
11-27-11, 06:44
Stop at Twilight lastnight and was a little busy. Saw a skinny lady that had nice body but was bit older than saw a not bad looking girl with short brown hair. Brought bebe a drink. You can tell her age is showing or its from stress.

Cha Ja
11-27-11, 08:07
I actually dated a KBG before I even knew she was a KBG. It was really fun while it lasted and I got to meet a lot of KBG's outside of work here and the mainland. The age different was about 8 years with me being younger which really made it exciting I guess for both of us. I guess in the end, things just didn't work out because of her lifestyle and work plus our age gap.

While we were dating, things were really great! She treated me really well and I'm pretty sure spent more money than I in the relationship. She use to buy clothes, watches, sunglasses, etc. Without me even asking for things. I also saw the good real side of a lot of KBG's and got along with most of them.

So what I'm basically saying is, they have 2 sides to them. They make really good girlfriends and probably even wives when you get a chance. But it's really really difficult to infiltrate that side of them. At work, they sort of have a protective shell around them and they question the motive of everything you do for them because they probably got burned a time or two in the past. You could be the nicest guy in the world but if you go into a Korean Bar to see them, it raises suspicion. They'll always think something is up and you're probably not real Boyfriend material seeing as how you go to that type of place.

P. S. If you want to make one of them your gf or wife and give up the bar scene, you're going to need to be able to support them financially. They pretty much have no other job skill that is prestigious enough and pays enough for them to give up their pride and work.

Goodluck fella's!I second that. Meet a KBG which turned out to be my X gf (now). What he states is true (to some point, may find a needle in a hay stack). I stayed at her place, she cooked and everything, but in the end, I kind of called it off (cause of financials) , and not once said she loved me. Then later, come to find out, she was really into me. But THINGS HAPPEN FOR A REASON. I guess it was not my calling.

Gargoyles69
11-28-11, 00:47
JR I am thinking of the same hana you are. If so, I had sent her a text earlier today as I hadn't seen her for some time. She had taken over the old one way lounge for a while.That Hana Past away she used to work at One Way lounge Very Very nice woman then later she got the other bar behind Palama Market in Kalihi side. SHe was taken home back to Korea. SHe all of a sudden had Cancer so her parents came down and took her home. Her good friend works at Lilac. Heard diferent stories about her. That her boyfriend bought her the bar and later borrow money from her but never paid her back.

Ocolumbo
11-28-11, 01:36
I was never into the hostess bar scene when I was drinking. Can only think of two occassions that I went in twenty plus years in Honolulu. Now that I don't drink I doubt if I would ever go. But I am just curious. The high price that customers pay for the drinks. What percentage of that goes to the girl and what percentage goes to the house? Do these bars have a better profit margin than an average bar without the hostesses, all other factors being equal?

Thanks

Jehuty
11-28-11, 03:01
I was never into the hostess bar scene when I was drinking. Can only think of two occassions that I went in twenty plus years in Honolulu. Now that I don't drink I doubt if I would ever go. But I am just curious. The high price that customers pay for the drinks. What percentage of that goes to the girl and what percentage goes to the house? Do these bars have a better profit margin than an average bar without the hostesses, all other factors being equal?

ThanksI know some bars are 50/50 and some are 70/30. I know at EG's the girls get paid no matter what even if no customers cause they punch in / out and do get paid hourly. Got this info from a very legit source.

Shipshape
11-28-11, 03:21
I was never into the hostess bar scene when I was drinking. Can only think of two occassions that I went in twenty plus years in Honolulu. Now that I don't drink I doubt if I would ever go. But I am just curious. The high price that customers pay for the drinks. What percentage of that goes to the girl and what percentage goes to the house? Do these bars have a better profit margin than an average bar without the hostesses, all other factors being equal?

ThanksIt will cost you $20 a drink for the girl (Some try to upsell to $40). Girl gets $15 and the house gets $5 is the average. Some shift a dollar or two either way. Most hostesses are free-lancers although there are exceptions where the house actually pays the girl a small amount plus the ever important health insurance. It just depends upon the girls "quality" and customer base plus whether or not the owner wants to fly a little bit legit. I'm sure others have better info, but, that's the basics.

Ss

Keola
11-28-11, 14:22
I have dated a KBG. We broke up at least a year ago. The hardest thing for me is when they have to talk to their customers and you are with them. I have talked about this before and fellow mongers were telling me that KBG's are no good. This is their lifestyle and they know how to suck the money out of you. I went with her for almost 4 years before we broke up. I think she wanted out of the relationship because my money was running out. We fell out of touch and just started seeing her again, just on a friend basis to eat lunch and drive her around. She used to call me couple times just to pick her up at the bar because she was too drunk but I never did because I didn't hear my phone. One word of advice to all who have or are going with a KBG. Don't fall in love with one and don't get her pregnant. I did fall in love with her and probably still am but luckily she didn't get pregnant. The weird thing now is that we have lunch now and then and she doesn't even ask me to buy her things, I just drive her around. Maybe she just realizes that not too many guys would do that kind of stuff for her. Just my 2 cents worth.

Blacks
11-28-11, 16:54
That Hana Past away she used to work at One Way lounge Very Very nice woman then later she got the other bar behind Palama Market in Kalihi side. SHe was taken home back to Korea. SHe all of a sudden had Cancer so her parents came down and took her home. Her good friend works at Lilac. Heard diferent stories about her. That her boyfriend bought her the bar and later borrow money from her but never paid her back.Yes thats her. I agree she was a nice woman. I met her yrs ago at Megs.

Warriors808
11-29-11, 01:57
I've noticed that the MNF is not very busy. Certainly not as busy as in prior years. Probably there are many reasons for it, but basically it is the economy, And it will get worse next year. The KBG's are feeling the consequence of this bad economy and are getting worried and desperate. So to all the KBG's they better clean up their act and change their shitty attitudes as more and more mongers are joining the boycott.

Gargoyles69
11-29-11, 02:17
I know some bars are 50/50 and some are 70/30. I know at EG's the girls get paid no matter what even if no customers cause they punch in / out and do get paid hourly. Got this info from a very legit source.Some girls get a salary just to some don't it depends if you have alot of customers. The bartenders get pair something like $300. 00 a month that's for being bartenders. Casue they have to bring there own food for the customer House pupus and there food are totally different. Doing with the LC the girls have to punch in cause it shows that they are working over ther so they have to have a time card. If they forget to punch in and the LC comes in the mama gets fine. If you go to the bars late sometimes you see the girl punch out and then drink with you a bottle beer. SHe can cause she is not on the clock. Yes it is a LC problem not a POlice problem about the girls drinking beer. There are the new girls who get nothing but they have nothing to do anyway. They live with the mama so they don't get pay salary. They have to build up there customers before the mama even thinks about giving them a salary.

Jehuty
11-29-11, 04:45
Some girls get a salary just to some don't it depends if you have alot of customers. The bartenders get pair something like $300. 00 a month that's for being bartenders. Casue they have to bring there own food for the customer House pupus and there food are totally different. Doing with the LC the girls have to punch in cause it shows that they are working over ther so they have to have a time card. If they forget to punch in and the LC comes in the mama gets fine. If you go to the bars late sometimes you see the girl punch out and then drink with you a bottle beer. SHe can cause she is not on the clock. Yes it is a LC problem not a POlice problem about the girls drinking beer. There are the new girls who get nothing but they have nothing to do anyway. They live with the mama so they don't get pay salary. They have to build up there customers before the mama even thinks about giving them a salary.I was trolling the guy (oculumbo) because I thought his question was kinda weird. Who cares how much percentage the girls get. Why he even care for?

KBGmonger
11-29-11, 13:28
This is true. Use the economy so that we have the upper hand. Take out is easier these days. I am using the downturn to my advantage. Am getting take out I would not have considered feasible in better times.


I've noticed that the MNF is not very busy. Certainly not as busy as in prior years. Probably there are many reasons for it, but basically it is the economy, And it will get worse next year. The KBG's are feeling the consequence of this bad economy and are getting worried and desperate. So to all the KBG's they better clean up their act and change their shitty attitudes as more and more mongers are joining the boycott.

YG365
11-29-11, 14:59
It will cost you $20 a drink for the girl (Some try to upsell to $40). Girl gets $15 and the house gets $5 is the average. Some shift a dollar or two either way. Most hostesses are free-lancers although there are exceptions where the house actually pays the girl a small amount plus the ever important health insurance. It just depends upon the girls "quality" and customer base plus whether or not the owner wants to fly a little bit legit. I'm sure others have better info, but, that's the basics.

SsI hate the fact that when you're buying them a drink, it ain't alcohol. Some sort of retard tea they drink that looks like alcohol. And if they ever get a shot, I think it's watered down.

Blade82
11-29-11, 15:07
I know some bars are 50/50 and some are 70/30. I know at EG's the girls get paid no matter what even if no customers cause they punch in / out and do get paid hourly. Got this info from a very legit source.The timeclock system is normally for health insurance purposes.

Blade82
11-29-11, 15:12
I've noticed that the MNF is not very busy. Certainly not as busy as in prior years. Probably there are many reasons for it, but basically it is the economy, And it will get worse next year. The KBG's are feeling the consequence of this bad economy and are getting worried and desperate. So to all the KBG's they better clean up their act and change their shitty attitudes as more and more mongers are joining the boycott.Ever since the opportunity came to watch MNF live in our own homes all bars have slowed down.

Gungho
11-30-11, 13:03
I hate the fact that when you're buying them a drink, it ain't alcohol. Some sort of retard tea they drink that looks like alcohol. And if they ever get a shot, I think it's watered down.I think that depends on the bar. I was sitting with a girl from Butterfly a year ago and she was matching me shot for shot / beer for beer. One time when she wasn't looking, I switched the shots. I was getting a little suspicious of her tolerance. When I drank it, it was the same kind of watered down stuff I was drinking. Not bad, I thought myself. Then, she starts getting a pink glow after the third shot / beer. So I think it does depend on the girl and the bar. Plus, I was sitting at the bar with her. I noticed that the bartender were giving both of drinks from the same bottle poured and beers from the same fridge. This is all from my personal adventures of KB mongering.

Hello Kitty
11-30-11, 22:55
She might be going to Casino when it opens Dec. 01. Just my guess since the mama from Illusion will be moving to Casino.New carpet and new paint but I guess not going get new girls.

John Ross
12-01-11, 01:24
That Hana Past away she used to work at One Way lounge Very Very nice woman then later she got the other bar behind Palama Market in Kalihi side. SHe was taken home back to Korea. SHe all of a sudden had Cancer so her parents came down and took her home. Her good friend works at Lilac. Heard diferent stories about her. That her boyfriend bought her the bar and later borrow money from her but never paid her back.Descriptions of Hana are diverse. I remember the Hana from Maui had a Pontiac Firebird there, but she didn't have a valid driver's license. I believe she got a new license sometime in 2007. Could this be the same Hana?

Blacks
12-01-11, 08:52
Descriptions of Hana are diverse. I remember the Hana from Maui had a Pontiac Firebird there, but she didn't have a valid driver's license. I believe she got a new license sometime in 2007. Could this be the same Hana?Your thinking of a different Hana is was not a Firebird. She was shorter then the other Hana everyone is thinking about. Thick black wavy hair.

Kapakahi
12-01-11, 13:46
New carpet and new paint but I guess not going get new girls.You know that already. Probably going be recycled KBGs but without much going for the KBs nowadays, it will be sort of interesting to see who shows. KBGs coming from ewa-side of Ward Avenue and will be "new" girls for me so will give it a try and hope for the best. But I agree that KB new carpets and paint cannot distract from good service and attitude; look before you leap.

Lumpia808
12-02-11, 14:04
New carpet and new paint but I guess not going get new girls.I forget who said it here but I still laugh at the "KB MUSICAL CHAIRS" quote. Sad but true.

Blacks
12-02-11, 17:38
I forget who said it here but I still laugh at the "KB MUSICAL CHAIRS" quote. Sad but true.It's all business. They move cause the new Mama will make promises or pay them a salary. Or they are those that move hoping that a Grand Opening will mean new customers / Make New money.

Member 69
12-03-11, 04:34
I visited Casino on Thursday night. I think there was only 1 girl that was under the age of 30. The rest were retreads from other bars like cheers station. The bartenders looked pretty good compared to the other girls working. The bar looked the same as before. Same mama. Julie but she has a partner now, I'm guess that the other one is the financial backer. I can't see how the place will be any better, Julie never was a good mama and never took good care of her girls. Unless things get better it will again be a matter of time before she goes into debt again.

At least there's another place to visit again.

Kapakahi
12-03-11, 10:38
It's all business. Or they are those that move hoping that a Grand Opening will mean new customers / Make New money.Here's hoping that the competition will bring momentary Holiday Cheer in the form of better service, attitude, and play. New KB openings usually signal hit-and-run tactics by KBGs. Existing KBs in the immediate area already reacting to the Casino opening with aggressive service; the piece of the Korean pancake is already too small (and shrinking).

Oldee
12-03-11, 17:43
Havnt been drinking early for awhile and went Camelot, Moonflower, Butts, Pharoah, Damour, EG, Twilight and Tommorrow. On Wednesday, bars were a ghostown dead as some bars had no customers at all! Never seen bars THAT slow for town even tho early is normally slow, they usually have their regulars and alkies I always see but not Wednesday. Saw some oldier bgs getting Casino ready for thurs and I don't think they going do well with that kind recycled talent. Kimberly tried that when she brought Cleo to town and failed miserably. Nevertheless I hope they stay open so got more choices. Went EG another day and wondered where the girls went. Rachael came by who I've known long time and tried for 15 minutes before she gave up. Nice girl but a rob bg so watch out for her. Bought Lisa 2 drinks because she earned it, hehehe. Same night went Business and seen a few missing EG girls like Mina there. She is nice too and another rob too and specializes in older S daddy types. For some reason she likes me even tho I don't buy her more than 1 drink if I do and thats when she earns it somehow. Maybe she kisses ass because sometimes I go with high rollas which I'm not. I'm wondering how Kalihi has been as its been ages since got any reports from there. Where are you Hlock?

Memahu
12-04-11, 05:23
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/16181614/police-seek-suspect-in-pearl-city-shooting

That's why I stop going to clubs. It's like the wild wild west.

Kapakahi
12-04-11, 15:23
Saw some oldier bgs getting Casino ready for thurs and I don't think they going do well with that kind recycled talent. Kimberly tried that when she brought Cleo to town and failed miserably. Nevertheless I hope they stay open so got more choices.Looks like Casino may not be successful as predicted. Went there to watch the 4Q of last night's game and, as rumored, there was no operational cable TV; saw one customer, one bartender, and no KBGs. I'm not a TV guy but it is a basic tool in bars for the benefit of customers. Whomever the KB operators are need basic training and sense. At least it'll be easy to count the revenues from last night.

Uki Eater
12-04-11, 15:52
Decided to pass by Casinos and noticed the sign changed to Club Casino. Just looking from the outside, it didn't look good. Me and my friends didn't bother to even go in.

Lumpia808
12-04-11, 17:37
We stopped by Casino last night. It was okay. Had some pretty ones, but like someones previous report they look around the late 30s kind. We got free pupus too. And yup, seen some girls from other bars.

Warriors808
12-04-11, 20:37
Heard from the KBG network that there will be a new mama at Club Pharoah. Seems that Sin-di mama will sell. Then of course as always could be just a rumor.

Kapakahi
12-04-11, 21:38
Decided to pass by Casinos and noticed the sign changed to Club Casino. Me and my friends didn't bother to even go in.That was a good pass. Went there during 4Q of the fb game from Pharaoh. No cable service for the TVs, one customer, one bartender, and no KBGs in sight. Maybe they knew I was going there! Amateurs.

Cha Ja
12-05-11, 07:53
Heard from the KBG network that there will be a new mama at Club Pharoah. Seems that Sin-di mama will sell. Then of course as always could be just a rumor.It could be a possibility, seen Sin-di mama at D'amour on Saturday night. Not sure if she was working there or not. Plus, looks like she is putting on some #'s.

Oldee
12-05-11, 17:15
Sunday was busier for most bars with alot of weekend golfers / fb watchers etc. Camelot had couple filled tables and alot of girls came work early evening. I must have been blind or drunk past times not noticing they replaced most of their old tvs with flatsrcreens. Since when? Those young hotties look good to bang but have that slutty / evil air to them. Thats just the type I avoid altho alot of LVBs and retiree LVBs like that type. Pharoah had decent crowd and noticed the sign of dollar off drinks Dec 8. 9,10 but didn't ask why. Damour was dead. Didn't check Butts and Casino. Anyone been Kalihi lately?

Kapakahi
12-06-11, 00:46
Those young hotties look good to bang but have that slutty / evil air to them. Thats just the type I avoid altho alot of LVBs and retiree LVBs like that type. Anyone been Kalihi lately?There are basically two types of LVBs: one who was ripped and one who will be ripped by KBGs; and they still come back for more. The KB and KBG scenes are lifeless and old hat already. I'm just going for talk story with the regulars and no spend more than twenty!

Gargoyles69
12-06-11, 03:23
The timeclock system is normally for health insurance purposes.Its a LC thing. I guess the girls have to punch in and out if not the mama can get fine. They don't even get paid. Opp's I correct my self. SOme do get paid a salary if they are good and have plenty of repaet customers. The new one have to pay ther dues and buy there time. Unitl they get regular cusotmer that always come to see them.

Asstro
12-06-11, 12:44
I visited Casino on Thursday night. I think there was only 1 girl that was under the age of 30. The rest were retreads from other bars like cheers station. The bartenders looked pretty good compared to the other girls working. The bar looked the same as before. Same mama. Julie but she has a partner now, I'm guess that the other one is the financial backer. I can't see how the place will be any better, Julie never was a good mama and never took good care of her girls. Unless things get better it will again be a matter of time before she goes into debt again.Watch the video and listen to the words of the "Girls' Generation","Bring the Boys Out". 'We are hot girls, and we bring the boys out! ' Young, slender girls, long legs, sexy clothes, friendly, out to please. Never mind.

Captin Crunch
12-06-11, 15:25
Heard there might be play available at Clique in Kalihi. Can anyone confirm and with who?

H Mobius
12-06-11, 17:06
Its a LC thing. I guess the girls have to punch in and out if not the mama can get fine. They don't even get paid. Opp's I correct my self. SOme do get paid a salary if they are good and have plenty of repaet customers. The new one have to pay ther dues and buy there time. Unitl they get regular cusotmer that always come to see them.When time cards first came out, I heard bars were getting busted for having girls who weren't employees serve customers, so the time cards were the bars' way of circumventing that. At that time, bars were wising-up and making sure their girls had the proper LC and INS documentation, so employment became 'the latest thing'.

A few girls told me they were getting a salary but it was a dismal amount. The provision was that she must work as ordered (basically everyday by a certain hour, until closing) and she was to not dare try working anywhere else. So when her bar got dead and the other girls moved to where the customers were, she was stuck in the barren wasteland. They were afraid to quit, too.

Even today, I kind of take notice of girls who are 'go-getters' and follow the money; they got to do what they got to do. Personally I don't see the point of getting all dressed-up and coming to work for nothing. I think it takes at least a little moxie to go prospecting and try your luck somewhere else knowing your old ms might not welcome you back. Just my 1 cent.

Jehuty
12-07-11, 00:57
The whole time card thing was just for jerking Ocolumbo's chain. I was trolling him because he say he no go bar but how he know about this forum and why he care how much cut the girls make? Also I said I got my info from a "legit" source. Uhh what's "legit" at a KB? Nothing. Didn't know you guys were going to get into details about girls punching in / out. Honestly who cares why they do it?

Oldee
12-07-11, 02:50
Personally I don't see the point of getting all dressed-up and coming to work for nothing. I think it takes at least a little moxie to go prospecting and try your luck somewhere else knowing your old ms might not welcome you back. Just my 1 cent.Thanks for for pointing the other side of KBGs moving or not moving Mobi bro. I know a few bgirls that should move bars but don't and others that move every month or week but shouldn't. The ones that should show some sort of loyalty don't and others that show too much often get stuck with a shitty mama and bears with the situation. However, the unloyal bar changing KBG for no good reason is the majority imo. I know of 1 KBG that changed bars 4 times in a month and most was busier KBs. That type of bg doesn't have steady regular customers because of their rob style of hostessing. Then theres other KBGs that have a pretty good customer base in slow shitty bars keeping the bar at least semi alive but lose out in the chance to meet NEW customers.

Jj6969
12-07-11, 06:06
Heard there might be play available at Clique in Kalihi. Can anyone confirm and with who?I have seen the girls at Clique and the only one that looks half decent is mama.

Warriors808
12-07-11, 18:42
That was a good pass. Went there during 4Q of the fb game from Pharaoh. No cable service for the TVs, one customer, one bartender, and no KBGs in sight. Maybe they knew I was going there! Amateurs.They have brought the kalihi Bar to the Kapiolani area. The KBG's should have stayed in Kalihi. Mostly 50+ year old ladies.

Kapakahi
12-07-11, 20:37
They have brought the kalihi Bar to the Kapiolani area. The KBG's should have stayed in Kalihi. Mostly 50+ year old ladies.If that is the case then Kalihi will become the next Kapiolani; not only location, but personality and atmosphere. This concept was talked about a few years ago; Kapiolani will become too saturated with KBs and high lease rents will drive the KB business westward. Kalihi KBs are getting the feel of both locations and will be able to adapt to changes more readily. Just IMO.

Oldee
12-08-11, 05:43
If that is the case then Kalihi will become the next Kapiolani; not only location, but personality and atmosphere. This concept was talked about a few years ago; Kapiolani will become too saturated with KBs and high lease rents will drive the KB business westward. Kalihi KBs are getting the feel of both locations and will be able to adapt to changes more readily. Just IMO.When Jun Mama opened Cheers at the Splash location, she failed and wised up later knowing she had to bring better talent with Splash. Kimberly tried the same thing at the Tommorrow location and failed. Jenny did the same at Monaco and failed. When they going to learn that bringing Kalihi talent to Kapiolani doesn't work! Generally, KBGs move westward as they get older, not the other way. The writing is on the wall at Casino and even the girls know that but will temporarily stay since its 'new' just for a brief time. Now is a REALLY bad time to have opened Casino with that kind talent with even the better bars struggling these days. The economy, DUI worries and bargoers wising up to robs are putting a hurt on bars overall. I think LVBs are whats keeping most bars alive at the moment. I really do. Its interesting to see how things will play out. An interesting thought came to mind when I think about what IF at least half the bargoers read the forums, Lucky for the bars most guys don't or else youd see many bars closing, hehe. I don't want more bars to close though and hope you mamas wise up and give us customers more of what we want.

Dasearch
12-08-11, 19:23
When Jun Mama opened Cheers at the Splash location, she failed and wised up later knowing she had to bring better talent with Splash. Kimberly tried the same thing at the Tommorrow location and failed. Jenny did the same at Monaco and failed. When they going to learn that bringing Kalihi talent to Kapiolani doesn't work! Generally, KBGs move westward as they get older, not the other way. The writing is on the wall at Casino and even the girls know that but will temporarily stay since its 'new' just for a brief time. Now is a REALLY bad time to have opened Casino with that kind talent with even the better bars struggling these days. The economy, DUI worries and bargoers wising up to robs are putting a hurt on bars overall. I think LVBs are whats keeping most bars alive at the moment. I really do. Its interesting to see how things will play out. An interesting thought came to mind when I think about what IF at least half the bargoers read the forums, Lucky for the bars most guys don't or else youd see many bars closing, hehe. I don't want more bars to close though and hope you mamas wise up and give us customers more of what we want.Oldee, I could not agree with you more. When will the LVB wise up? (When they out of money or when they catch them in the act, LOL. Hopefully this forum will open their eyes.

Blade82
12-08-11, 21:26
When Jun Mama opened Cheers at the Splash location, she failed and wised up later knowing she had to bring better talent with Splash. Kimberly tried the same thing at the Tommorrow location and failed. Jenny did the same at Monaco and failed. When they going to learn that bringing Kalihi talent to Kapiolani doesn't work! Generally, KBGs move westward as they get older, not the other way. The writing is on the wall at Casino and even the girls know that but will temporarily stay since its 'new' just for a brief time. Now is a REALLY bad time to have opened Casino with that kind talent with even the better bars struggling these days. The economy, DUI worries and bargoers wising up to robs are putting a hurt on bars overall. I think LVBs are whats keeping most bars alive at the moment. I really do. Its interesting to see how things will play out. An interesting thought came to mind when I think about what IF at least half the bargoers read the forums, Lucky for the bars most guys don't or else youd see many bars closing, hehe. I don't want more bars to close though and hope you mamas wise up and give us customers more of what we want.Monaco was just messed up period. Cheers at the time was a big hotspot in Kalihi and I think could have survived in town if only they were actually on the strip. I'm assuming the mama at Casino is hoping to recruit new talent in time. I still remember when Damour and Mayas pretty much was equivalent to a Kalihi bar. Lets just hope mama actually has a plan.

Kapakahi
12-09-11, 00:45
Last day this Sat. ; closed Sun. For inventory; new operator Mon. No other info available. Anybody?

Oldee
12-09-11, 03:25
When will the LVB wise up? (When they out of money or when they catch them in the act, LOL. Hopefully this forum will open their eyes.You just gave me an idea to have forum members help just 1 LVB within the next year to see the light, hehe. It could be as simple as giving good advice to the LVB sitting next to you at the bar or talking to your LVB buddies that some members have, hehe. Helping 1 LVB is good karma guys. Ok, went Tommorrow yesterday and was not that slow although most guys sat at the bar. Then went Camelot to check the talent again. Decided to go Moonflower instead since seen mostly the same girls as other night and didn't want to be surrounded bv LVBs. Some of those girls at Moonflower pretty tall and not bad looking mid to late 30s KBGs. Called it at early night as was just doing my crazy recons that I sometimes do. Was wondering if one of the guys at Moonflower was Uki because he was explaining at length to a KBG how guys and KBGs are to a KBG, LOL. Just kidding Uki bro!

Kapakahi
12-09-11, 03:41
Kimberly tried the same thing at the Tommorrow location and failed. Jenny did the same at Monaco and failed. When they going to learn that bringing Kalihi talent to Kapiolani doesn't work. Hope you mamas wise up and give us customers more of what we want.When I was introduced to this KBG she tried to put on an air of sophistication and intelligence. I thought she was a poor actress and chuckled at this display of Follywood. Sure enough, it didn't last too long because it was all a poor charade that even a juvenile could have uncovered. Monaco was just disastrous, period. Now it's Casino.

Uki Eater
12-09-11, 06:04
Was wondering if one of the guys at Moonflower was Uki because he was explaining at length to a KBG how guys and KBGs are to a KBG, LOL. Just kidding Uki bro!Shucks. No wonder why I got stares from BGs and customers. Oh well, I guess I'm not going KB for a long time. Hehe.

Oldee
12-09-11, 06:43
Shucks. No wonder why I got stares from BGs and customers. Oh well, I guess I'm not going KB for a long time. Hehe.Seemed like she was interested in you. Handsome guy that can talk almost as good as a LVB to KBGs, LOL.

Hello Kitty
12-09-11, 09:25
Stop at New Casino first and was hoping Nara, MK, or Gina would be there but no luck. Place was alright I felt relaxed and was kind of busy. Most of the girls was in the booth so never see that much but the bartender caught my eye. I think that could be Gigi. Can anyone confrim? As I was leaving one other caught my eye. Eddy from Splash. Now have something to cameback and change to LVB mode. Next stop D'Amour, beer was good. Did my drunken walk to EG. Where all the girls you guys posting about? Found MK. Had to sober up so stop at Diamond. Seen Nazly Fuller. She was in the booth with the others and was tame as a kitten. Don't know why others post that she a crazy drunk.

Hello Kitty
12-09-11, 09:44
It could be a possibility, seen Sin-di mama at D'amour on Saturday night. Not sure if she was working there or not. Plus, looks like she is putting on some #'s.You know whats more funny is that today somone told me she is getting married.

Warriors808
12-09-11, 13:19
Last day this Sat. ; closed Sun. For inventory; new operator Mon. No other info available. Anybody?New owner will be 'Elliie" sp. Used to work with Mimi-mama at Casino and Business. Short hair. Open Dec. 12. Sindi-mama sold bar to Ellie and will be getting out of the business and she found a "sugar daddy". As usual information came from the KBG's, so whatever it's worth.

Kapakahi
12-09-11, 13:20
You just gave me an idea to have forum members help just 1 LVB within the next year to see the light, hehe. Was wondering if one of the guys at Moonflower was Uki because he was explaining at length to a KBG how guys and KBGs are to a KBG, LOL. Just kidding Uki bro!I was there, too! The KBGs were attacking two handsome and talented guys there ("I likee you; aigu!") ; too smooth, Uki and Oldee. Anyway, Save An LVB; Harpoon a KBG.

Hello Kitty
12-09-11, 15:07
Still had to sober up from drinking in town so stop at Green Tee, Lilac, and the other bar was slow. Next stop was Kool. So Su try her best to get a drink from me and I had dig out without finishing my drink. So fuck up I felt molested. Next Islander seem dead. Had pee from all the drinking so stop at Coloful. At lot of locals there. Had a one not bad looking chick there.

Uki Eater
12-09-11, 16:31
Seemed like she was interested in you. Handsome guy that can talk almost as good as a LVB to KBGs, LOL.Nah, Nah that wasn't me. But, you really got me nervous though. Hehe. I don't want that guy to have BGs looking at him or even a BG one day says: "I know who you are. You're that guy Uki Eater from the forum huh? You bastard!" LOL

Oldee
12-09-11, 16:50
New owner will be 'Elliie" sp. Used to work with Mimi-mama at Casino and Business. Short hair. Open Dec. 12.Thanks for the info Warrior bro. Its seems theres been alot bar changes recently with Monaco closing, girls doing musical chairs changing bars, security gaurd at EG, Casino reopening, and Pharoah getting new mama. Seems Camelot trying hard to claim the uncontested top spot and Business doing the same. This has been a wierd year for bars. Mostly its been slow overall compared to other years which recently also been slow but not as bad as this year. I think its going to interesting next year.

Kapakahi
12-09-11, 18:36
New owner will be 'Elliie" sp. Sindi-mama sold bar to Ellie and will be getting out of the business and she found a "sugar daddy".Yeah, she had a few guys giving her ride to Pharaoh; one with a blk. MBZ SUV, another a MBZ sedan, a golf partner, etc. HKitty called a wedding today (I guess it's part of the inventory) and a new tomorrow for KBG "Ellie." Best wishes to all, (especially us) , KB operators who wise-up, and LVBs who graduate from the adoption program.

Warriors808
12-09-11, 21:09
Thanks for the info Warrior bro. Its seems theres been alot bar changes recently with Monaco closing, girls doing musical chairs changing bars, security gaurd at EG, Casino reopening, and Pharoah getting new mama. Seems Camelot trying hard to claim the uncontested top spot and Business doing the same. This has been a wierd year for bars. Mostly its been slow overall compared to other years which recently also been slow but not as bad as this year. I think its going to interesting next year.The KB are not what they used to be. It has been real slow lately and I ithink will get worse next year. We'll shall see what happens to all the bars and the kBG's next year.

BTW Oldee, keep up your posts.very truthful and always make me LOL!

H Mobius
12-10-11, 03:59
Stop at New Casino first and was hoping Nara, MK, or Gina would be there but no luck. Place was alright I felt relaxed and was kind of busy. Most of the girls was in the booth so never see that much but the bartender caught my eye. I think that could be Gigi. Can anyone confrim? As I was leaving one other caught my eye. Eddy from Splash. Now have something to cameback and change to LVB mode. Next stop D'Amour, beer was good. Did my drunken walk to EG. Where all the girls you guys posting about? Found MK. Had to sober up so stop at Diamond. Seen Nazly Fuller. She was in the booth with the others and was tame as a kitten. Don't know why others post that she a crazy drunk.I saw an attractive bartender whose name I think was "Ji-Oh". Little to no makeup with a nice figure. I thought about how she would fit right-in at Nirvana.

Also saw a couple of girls from Moonflower, including Danbi. Overall the hostesses were younger than Kalihi, but unless they play they don't seem to have much going for them. I did not recognize most of them.

EG was empty with almost no hostesses besides Mi Ni, and it was almost midnight already. Didn't stay, and went to Johnny's side of SP3; there's a young v-dancer who resembles the late Aaliya and another taller one with tats all over her back and a kind of runway model walk. Both attract a lot of tips. You can't miss them.

Tried Tomorrow but it was dead with very few hostesses some of whom were obviously 40+; this place reminded me of Kalihi. One lady had big tits and a voluptuous build which her outfit displayed well; she'd be the queen at a place like Kison or CHM. Can't miss her, either.

Oldee
12-10-11, 06:25
Went to check Casino and saw mostly older KBGs with mostly older customers to match. For a new bar and Friday, wasnt that busy. Damour was dead so went to check Pharoah which was also dead but they had $2 beer so stayed awhile. Heard all the girls from Pharoah going move to Twilight and Ellie bringing in her own crew. Interesting. Pharoah girls not that hot imo so don't think will make that much diff for Twilight. EG hardly had any girls and moved on to Tommorrow after checking a slow Twilight which also wasnt too busy. Then went Camelot which was pretty busy at the bar but didn't see that many girls tonight, for them anyway. Brian always buys me beer so I better not talk stink about him, LOL Went home around 11 after starting at 8.

Liampark808
12-10-11, 13:14
Thought I'd stop by Casino too, just to see what it was like now. Exactly the same as before. Saw Yujin there. She looks kinda had it now. Bought Eri a good luck drink and left after. I'm pretty sure I've sat with her at D'amour before. Anyone have any info on her? She seemed pretty cool. On the way home saw that the place Michelle's used to be, right next to the old Maya's, was open. Forgot the name. Decided to stop in for one, just to check it out. Saw the cousins Yuri and Yujin from Kalihi working there. They're starting to look had it as well. Too much of the bar life I guess.

Kapakahi
12-10-11, 14:39
Brian always buys me beer so I better not talk stink about him, LOL Went home around 11 after starting at 8.Six KBs in three hours is very impressive with a good report attached; how do you do it? Holiday season, payments, and income taxes are brutal for an already tight spending scene. We all sorta know that the coming years will be just as bad; some experts predict even worse economic conditions for the next three to five years. KBs need to (according to Oldee) give us what we want; KBs need to be a one-stop-shop with stunning KBGs, drink specials, ono pupus, sports, and everything across the KB board to attract all customers. It would behoove KB operators to review and adjust their business model accordingly. But KB operators not going change because they too entrenched within themselves. No can attract customers with the current Bozo lineups; get too many pay places like Rejuve, Pink. I guess the only thing I have to look forward to is a comp drink from Cammy Brian.

Oldee
12-11-11, 06:39
Six KBs in three hours is very impressive with a good report attached; how do you do it?. I guess the only thing I have to look forward to is a comp drink from Cammy Brian.I just walked through or used the restroon at half those bars, hehe. Did it for the bros just in case they interested in those bars. Didn't check Business, Napa and Splash tho because I was lazy. BTW, Kapa, was waiting all day for your post to show up and man, was late today. Actually. I look forward to everyone's posts, especially the delayed ones. I wonder how Kalihi is? BTW, what is that blow up thing in front of Moonflower?

Uki Eater
12-11-11, 06:53
BTW, what is that blow up thing in front of Moonflower?Haha. I thought the same thing to when I passed Moonflowers. Seems like they have some machine blowing air into those Santa, Reindeer balloon figures. Geez, Moonflowers really decorate outside. Even on Halloween they had a big ass Jack o lantern in the front. Hehe. Cute though.

Kapakahi
12-11-11, 19:31
I just walked through or used the restroon at half those bars, hehe. BTW, Kapa, was waiting all day for your post to show up and man, was late today. I wonder how Kalihi is? BTW, what is that blow up thing in front of Moonflower?No wonder you can go six KBs in three hours; that's fast if you drink one beer in each place and walk to the next. I wait foe all posts; everybody has good stuff and SS's latest one was filled with humor, talent, and a lesson. Kalihi is overdue for me but not interested due to the "Kalihi Coming To Kapiolani" recent exodus and trend; besides, the Kalihi KB experts were MMaster, HKitty, KBMonger, to name a few (but hardly any Kalihi reports lately). I think Uki said that blow-up thingy in front of MFlower was one big ass condom. Anyway, may try Casino (again, after no cable TV for the UH game) , Butt, and D'am later today; by that time going be one Monday post. Later, everybody; have a good one.

Jehuty
12-12-11, 12:23
Thought I'd stop by Casino too, just to see what it was like now. Exactly the same as before. Saw Yujin there. She looks kinda had it now. Bought Eri a good luck drink and left after. I'm pretty sure I've sat with her at D'amour before. Anyone have any info on her? She seemed pretty cool. On the way home saw that the place Michelle's used to be, right next to the old Maya's, was open. Forgot the name. Decided to stop in for one, just to check it out. Saw the cousins Yuri and Yujin from Kalihi working there. They're starting to look had it as well. Too much of the bar life I guess.Yes that's Eri or how Hello, Kitty would say Eddy. And Yes she from D'amour, Splash, Maya's, Camelot, Evergreen, Napa Valley and now Casino. Man I swear she always comes up every so often on the boards. Side note anyone who used to frequent Angie from EG's, the one who used to hang with Tia is also at Casino.

Oldee
12-12-11, 15:09
Yes that's Eri or how Hello, Kitty would say Eddy. And Yes she from D'amour, Splash, Maya's, Camelot, Evergreen, Napa Valley and now Casino. Man I swear she always comes up every so often on the boards. Side note anyone who used to frequent Angie from EG's, the one who used to hang with Tia is also at Casino.Ah Eri, your typical 'nice' KBG that specialzes in LVBs, hehe. How's it going Jehuty bro, any luck in Kalihi?

Lumpia808
12-12-11, 18:28
Angie at casino, had to cancel after a few. Turned off when she started to be all princessy.