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  1. #2958

    Magical touch

    I went to magical touch two days ago to try out the new girl. If you didn't know magical touch has been posting lately on craigs list about this new girl that works there now. So as soon as I get there I am greeted by the mamasan and I get escorted into room A. About 2pm on a sunny afternoon, very hot. As soon as I am in the room I ask the mamasan if the new girl is available and she tells me that yes she is. So I pay what I have to pay and next thing you know the new girl walks in the room after I stripped down. Outta 1-10 she is like a 7 maybe 8. Nice rack. Decent booty. Decent face. Asked if I wanted the TS and I said of course. Tried to conversate with the new girl during the TS but she seemed mad. Like I was just another guy trying to get a nut off. She asked how old I was and then I asked her and she told me she couldn't tell me. Basically she was being a smartass/ being rude to the customer but I didn't mind at the time. After the TS I was escorted back into room A. I guess she went and grabbed a condom and came back in. Once she came back in she only took her thong off and pulled down her tanktop. She basically still had her tank onn and her skirt on which I didn't like. I like my girls nude and I asked her but she didn't wanna take the rest off. So I sat on the bed and received a decent facejob. Soon as I got my man hard she insisted on putting it in. Me of course made my move. Honestly her thing was pretty tite compared to other girls that work in AMPs. After about 30 secs she moaned COME ON BABY CUM CUM CUM! I go for awhile so I ignored her. After two more minutes she told me to stop. When I pulled out she looked at me and then her eyes rolled behind her head like she was about to pass out. Maybe I nailed her pretty good idk but I got kinda scared. Next thing you know she asked me to lay down and finished me off with a handjob. Pretty disappointed with her finish but it is what it is. Too much hype about this new girl. Would not recommmend to anyone. I wish I coulda just stuck with the mamasan but w/e. I hope you guys don't make the same mistake.

  2. #2957

    As promised I am reporting back

    Looks are better then a 5 and the attitude should be a 10.

    I saw her this evening and was very happy. Though she is not a spring chicken she did not try to deceive by lying about her age. At first she did not say but later came through. I do not know if it was because she was honest about it but I thought she looked you for her admitted age.

    She is a great therapist and actually runs a legitimate business. She is friendly and pleasant. SHe is a good conversationalist who does not worry about the payment until everything is done. She did not once ask me for the money and I just let her $$ in from of the ORIENTAL art.

    She did a very nice BBBJ (though I did not CIM) and when it came time for the sugar walls she offered to put a cover on for me. I asked her if this was necessary and being that she thought "I looked clean" she was willing to allow me to enjoy organic.

    I did not try the DATY but might have been temped on another day now that I know how sweet she is.

    The office is a normal acupressure spot and she tried to as discrete as possible.

    I give it to Bird Dropping on this one. Though he mentioned a lot of truths I think what he might have forgot to mention was that he did all that over a period of time.

    She claimed to be getting a new "therapist" this week but could not verify if she would do the same services but she said that one is about 26 but did not know any more about her.

    Worth the trip and time and will repeat in a few weeks.

    Thanks


    Quote Originally Posted by Bird Dropping
    Looks: 5/10
    Attitude: 9/10
    Service: 9/10
    Extras: 9/10

    PM for details
    Last edited by Justforme; 08-29-09 at 23:19. Reason: Adding spacing

  3. #2956

    I will read the advertisments in the Voice

    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/s...12&postcount=42

    Do you think you can get this one (Panamanian not asian to come up here). If she was a gymnast she would be a gold medelist with all those 9/9.5s across the board.

    Now you are just looking to argue after all you are compariing apples to oranges. See if you can look into a AMP an compare what they have to the AMPs here.

    I have not been to one there for a while so I do not know the changes that have been made.

    I do not know which scientific study your facts are based on but I will take your word for it but in the interest of science you should make a fact finding trip to NY, Queens that is, buy the Queens or Long Island edition of the Newsday, look in the classifieds and start calling around. When you return you will have a more complete scientific survey to base your "Facts upon".

    While you are there try to ascertain as to their legal status in the US and how much they paid or owe for the journey to the US. Impoverished as many of them might have been it would have been difficult for many to get a visa without the assistance of an agency.

    As for me and my New York days they might very well be behind me but when and if I get back to NY I will bring back a copy of the Village Voice. Being that I have not been back to the City of NY in about three years I do not have any updated information, I am just speaking from experience!

    I do know from being down here for three years if you ask most of the girls/ladies where they have worked most will say they started out in Flushing (Queen, NY). Ask you will see. Keep a running tally; I have yet to meet that did not (including the one I met this evening). Include this in your future surveys to "facts"


    Quote Originally Posted by Xsham
    The conversation has gotten pretty off-track. My only point was that money talks and if you don't believe that to be true than look at the trends:

    Fact- you can't name even 3 therapists under 30 at the AMPs/AAMPs in this area (excluding those here for a month or less). Hell, most of you couldn't even name 1 or 2.
    Fact- when a therapist realizes she is being cheaped out she moves or she goes to Eros.

    Don't sit here and argue that you're some expert about NYC when these forums clearly illustrate that NYC standard AMP rates for younger and good looking providers are 180-220. That's what hobbyists on these forums and I have paid and that is what it costs to maintain at least a semblance of what things were like back between 1998-2002 when things weren't so miserable. The same rates apply to good locations in Phoenix, San Fran, L.A., San Diego, Miami, San Jose, Seattle or several other major hubs and that's why you can still find young therapists there. I've never been one to mince words, even if it makes me a pariah among some seniors. I know I am right so please don't argue with me.***

    If you come across a therapist and she is cute (a 7.5 or well above average across most posters rating scales) and/or is under age 30 (and looks it very clearly) and you are paying the flat rate of $.6 then you are asking her to leave and may as well buy her the ticket out of town.

    There is a difference between "paying for less" and "paying less leading to less." The latter is what has happened in D.C./Maryland and Virginia. Prove me wrong, though. Show me where the D.C. flat rate advocated on these forums has made the scene better in any way. I'll be waiting with bated breath.


    *** Rates for younger therapists in NYC

    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=884
    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=876
    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=874
    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=854
    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...2&postcount=42

    On the West Coast, if you want a R&T from a younger therapist you will be charged at minimum 120 and at most 175. Think Kacy from NoVA who now advertises on Eros (surprise surprise).
    Last edited by Justforme; 08-29-09 at 23:44. Reason: Addition

  4. #2955

    I am not an expert on anything

    but I do have experiences.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xsham
    The conversation has gotten pretty off-track. My only point was that money talks and if you don't believe that to be true than look at the trends:

    Fact- you can't name even 3 therapists under 30 at the AMPs/AAMPs in this area (excluding those here for a month or less). Hell, most of you couldn't even name 1 or 2.
    Fact- when a therapist realizes she is being cheaped out she moves or she goes to Eros.

    Don't sit here and argue that you're some expert about NYC when these forums clearly illustrate that NYC standard AMP rates for younger and good looking providers are 180-220. That's what hobbyists on these forums and I have paid and that is what it costs to maintain at least a semblance of what things were like back between 1998-2002 when things weren't so miserable. The same rates apply to good locations in Phoenix, San Fran, L.A., San Diego, Miami, San Jose, Seattle or several other major hubs and that's why you can still find young therapists there. I've never been one to mince words, even if it makes me a pariah among some seniors. I know I am right so please don't argue with me.***

    If you come across a therapist and she is cute (a 7.5 or well above average across most posters rating scales) and/or is under age 30 (and looks it very clearly) and you are paying the flat rate of $.6 then you are asking her to leave and may as well buy her the ticket out of town.

    There is a difference between "paying for less" and "paying less leading to less." The latter is what has happened in D.C./Maryland and Virginia. Prove me wrong, though. Show me where the D.C. flat rate advocated on these forums has made the scene better in any way. I'll be waiting with bated breath.


    *** Rates for younger therapists in NYC

    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=884
    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=876
    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=874
    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=854
    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...2&postcount=42

    On the West Coast, if you want a R&T from a younger therapist you will be charged at minimum 120 and at most 175. Think Kacy from NoVA who now advertises on Eros (surprise surprise).

  5. #2954

    Sakura

    Quote Originally Posted by Seva Lurker
    Well for the first time in a couple of years, I have reason to spend some time in the NOVA area next weekend. When I routinely visited on work, I kept track of the AMP situation. My favorite being Sakura.

    So trying to read through the forum for a year or so is rough.

    So my question. Which AMP is offering the best service and what are the going rates? Looks like .6 to .8 for the door fee and $ for extras. The $ got FS at Sakura, but like I said it's been a while.

    Answer either on the board or PM.

    Thanks guys.

    Stay away from Sakura. Since their bust awhile ago it's been in the PD's spotlight since opening back up. Along with Lily's in Manassas/Centreville. Most AMP's in PWC are strictly HJ spots now and wont dare doing FS. PWC posts your full name and sometimes pictures if you get caught. Stay in Fairfax or more north (Alexandria)

  6. #2953
    Well for the first time in a couple of years, I have reason to spend some time in the NOVA area next weekend. When I routinely visited on work, I kept track of the AMP situation. My favorite being Sakura.

    So trying to read through the forum for a year or so is rough.

    So my question. Which AMP is offering the best service and what are the going rates? Looks like .6 to .8 for the door fee and $ for extras. The $ got FS at Sakura, but like I said it's been a while.

    Answer either on the board or PM.

    Thanks guys.

  7. #2952
    You're absolutely right the younger girls there going where the money is. If you're an owner do you want a girl 41-45 who looks 30 or do you want a 29-year-old who looks 19 or 20. The owner wants the same thing as the customer this just raises the income. There going where the money is!

  8. #2951
    The conversation has gotten pretty off-track. My only point was that money talks and if you don't believe that to be true than look at the trends:

    Fact- you can't name even 3 therapists under 30 at the AMPs/AAMPs in this area (excluding those here for a month or less). Hell, most of you couldn't even name 1 or 2.
    Fact- when a therapist realizes she is being cheaped out she moves or she goes to Eros.

    Don't sit here and argue that you're some expert about NYC when these forums clearly illustrate that NYC standard AMP rates for younger and good looking providers are 180-220. That's what hobbyists on these forums and I have paid and that is what it costs to maintain at least a semblance of what things were like back between 1998-2002 when things weren't so miserable. The same rates apply to good locations in Phoenix, San Fran, L.A., San Diego, Miami, San Jose, Seattle or several other major hubs and that's why you can still find young therapists there. I've never been one to mince words, even if it makes me a pariah among some seniors. I know I am right so please don't argue with me.***

    If you come across a therapist and she is cute (a 7.5 or well above average across most posters rating scales) and/or is under age 30 (and looks it very clearly) and you are paying the flat rate of $.6 then you are asking her to leave and may as well buy her the ticket out of town.

    There is a difference between "paying for less" and "paying less leading to less." The latter is what has happened in D.C./Maryland and Virginia. Prove me wrong, though. Show me where the D.C. flat rate advocated on these forums has made the scene better in any way. I'll be waiting with bated breath.


    *** Rates for younger therapists in NYC

    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=884
    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=876
    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=874
    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=854
    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...2&postcount=42

    On the West Coast, if you want a R&T from a younger therapist you will be charged at minimum 120 and at most 175. Think Kacy from NoVA who now advertises on Eros (surprise surprise).

  9. #2950

    NSP Again!

    First off, this report is late. My 1st report was with a lady named Sony. This report is with the same lady a week afterwards, so, I have no idea who is there now.

    I went NSP again and found that the MMS had remembered me. That is always a great feeliing. Anyways, Sony was still there and I did as she asked, which was come in the morning time. Got to the room and the fun instantly began. She stripped me down and brought me to the TS. Lots of roaming, and giggling. We wasted no time and went back to the room for our fun again. $.8 for the experiance. I have to say, it is my new fav spot. I read some reviews about this place and it seems 50/50. I guess I have been lucky. Those who PM'd me before, I hope it worked for you. The treatment was the same if not better-a couple more things on the menu-(always hope for better on a return visit-right? ) If you want the details, you know what to do.

    If you have any intel on other fun spots, please PM me. Not that I want to change my spot, it; s just that it is a little out of my ways and I would like to just have options. Somewhere along the 95 corrider!

  10. #2949

    Massage Therapy

    There is a new place called Massage Therapy that opened last week in the Sterling area. Near Dranesville Rd and rte 7, its located in a small, ethnic strip mall behind Popeyes. It is discreetly tucked in the corner, the last shop.

    I've been there twice and have been told there isn't much business so far. I'm not surprised, its pretty hidden.

    Both times I've been there Mimi greeted me. Older, but extremely pleasant, she uses her elbows and knees and gives a very good massage.

    Being a new place, they re very careful about draping but standard NOVA practices and prices apply. Extensive roaming is allowed. Thjis is a very nice place and doesn't get packed as Green or King (so far). They want the business so grand opening price for an hour is.7. The main drawback is there is only a standing shower because they are afraid of attracting unwanted attention.

    They advertise in CL with the address you can google and phone #.

  11. #2948

    Redial

    Quote Originally Posted by Brdcsttech
    I have been calling the number Bird gave me all week. No answer and mailbox is full - can't leave a message.
    I always appreciate when the ladies do not stop what they are doing to answer the phone.

    Sorry if you have not had good luck. It might be worth you time to try again; if you are interested, or try elsewhere.

  12. #2947

    Place above Panera

    Once again found myself by Panera in Falls Church this morning. So I went to the 2nd floor, and again saw Kelly for a half hour. Large (but somewhat saggy) rack, nice lower half. She is in shape.

    I will tell you that the place gets very little traffic in the mornings. Kelly told me it was unusual to get anyone before noon, and usually less than 4 before 5pm.

    I did not see MMS today, which was a shame. I hope some day she is the provider - knockout body.

    This is a no TS place, so the massage began right away. Again, it was lackluster. At the flip, thee was a little front massage and then I was presented with a menu more expansive than at most NOVA places. I went middle of the road on my selection, which I thought was a deal for $.5. Usually a $.6-$.8 service in DC. While it was, again, somewhat mechanical, it was pleasant. Upstairs roaming was allowed inside, downstairs outside was permitted - didn't try to get inside. This time.

    At some point I am going to order the most expensive thing on the menu, being $1. I think it could be fun, seeing as how in-shape she is.

    I haven't seen much of other providers there, and I've only ever had Kelly as my provider, so I can't vouch for the rest of the staff.

    But if you've got The Fever and some time to kill on a weekend morning, I would recommend. Very good value for the money.

  13. #2946

    Once again, you're almost 100% wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Justforme
    i believe you are incorrect of you assumption that NY has more willing recipients than the DC area. I used to frequent in NY; Long Island, Manhattan and Queens areas and I can tell you the prices are clear and the same or less.

    The real deal is the girls once used up (or been busted too much) on that circuit must move on. They hit Boston, some go west but when they are finally fresh here in NOVA and DC they are no longer a spring chicken (excuse the meat reference, please).

    You should not blame the "cheapskates" in this area. Most of the time in NY area they are paying off their debt (in getting to the US) and once that is paid they are free to roam. By that time, they are usually in their 30s. Just think how hard is was for these K and C girls to get US a visa, do you think they could have obtained them without assistance? A lot more controls on the girls until they are older and less desired.

    No, it is not cheapskates in this area the girls are just more knowing. If we got the ladies "off the boat" as NY and SF does, things would be different her; it was different 5 short years ago before my first departure from this area.

    The only thing I would like people around here to understand is we can set the price but if we give in to the make-up then they will continue to do so. Previous some here published a good guideline for "tipping" and I will suggest we keep to it. would also suggest we find out who is the real "mamasan" and ask her/him to please bring up some younger action.

    In this case the market can dictate. More places are opening up, if you ask for a line-up and do not like the selection, tell the management and then tell them to get someone who will not remind you of you mother and grandmother (oriental version)

    My 2 cents, thank you
    No offense, Justforme, but your 2 cents is worth about, well, 2 cents.

    To begin with, the women who work in the massage industry do so for a plethora of reasons. But the ones who are working off debt which they incurred to come to the U.S., almost without exception, did not incur that debt by getting a visa. They are, in fact, usually un-documented. In other words, they were trafficked.

    Many of these women, however, are here legally and incurred debt either from a failed business or, most often, from gambling. Others are women who got here by marrying Americans (often service men) and those marriages failed. Regardless of how they incurred debt, the ones who begin their tour of the U.S. in NYC do not stay there until they have paid off their debt. And they are not constrained from working elsewhere until they have done so. It can take a woman (especially if she is un-documented) years to pay off the debt which she owes to the snakeheads who smuggled her in.

    There is simply not enough opportunity for them do so in NYC. What you don't understand is that the security which they have pledged to guarantee their loans is not their physical being. They are not even, strictly speaking, required to work in the sex industry. If they could pay off their debts by working as waitresses, they are free to do so and they could do so in any city of their choosing. What secures their debt until they are able to clear it is the family which they have left behind.

    You are correct that for many of them (often the illegals), their first port of call is New York City (often Flushing/Queens). But you are incorrect that they stay there until they are used up. They are there for other reasons than what you seem to be suggesting. The reasons for their being in New York is that they have a greater support structure there. They often stay there just long enough to get somewhat acclimated to life in the U.S., learn a bit of English, and then be processed "through the system". This means finding an AMP or spa in another state which will give them a job.

    And finally, you are wrong about the reason that AMP girls in places like D.C. are increasingly older. It is not because, as you suggest, that they come here after they are too old to work in the greater N.Y.C. area. It is simply because of changing demographic, social, and economic conditions in their countries of origin (mostly the Republic Of Korea and the Yanbian area of the People's Republic of China). As you may or may not be aware, South Korea and the PRC, are in the midst of an economic boom period. The societies of South Korea and China are also increasingly less male dominated than they once were. Therefore young, attractive women have economic opportunities which do not involve illegally entering the U.S. and working in the sex industry.

    I don't know about everyone else, but for me, I'm sick of the dis-information and mis-information which you seem to love to post. However, I wish that if you must continue to post, you could bring yourself to try just a little harder to express yourself using correct grammar and spelling. And finally, an "oriental" is a carpet, not a person. The correct term is "Asian."

    LexLuther

  14. #2945

    Speaking from NY I am sorry to say

    i believe you are incorrect of you assumption that NY has more willing recipients than the DC area. I used to frequent in NY; Long Island, Manhattan and Queens areas and I can tell you the prices are clear and the same or less.

    The real deal is the girls once used up (or been busted too much) on that circuit must move on. They hit Boston, some go west but when they are finally fresh here in NOVA and DC they are no longer a spring chicken (excuse the meat reference, please).

    You should not blame the "cheapskates" in this area. Most of the time in NY area they are paying off their debt (in getting to the US) and once that is paid they are free to roam. By that time, they are usually in their 30s. Just think how hard is was for these K and C girls to get US a visa, do you think they could have obtained them without assistance? A lot more controls on the girls until they are older and less desired.

    No, it is not cheapskates in this area the girls are just more knowing. If we got the ladies "off the boat" as NY and SF does, things would be different her; it was different 5 short years ago before my first departure from this area.

    The only thing I would like people around here to understand is we can set the price but if we give in to the make-up then they will continue to do so. Previous some here published a good guideline for "tipping" and I will suggest we keep to it. would also suggest we find out who is the real "mamasan" and ask her/him to please bring up some younger action.

    In this case the market can dictate. More places are opening up, if you ask for a line-up and do not like the selection, tell the management and then tell them to get someone who will not remind you of you mother and grandmother (oriental version)

    My 2 cents, thank you


    Quote Originally Posted by Xsham
    At some point you have to ask why there are practically zero therapists under 32 in the entire D.C./NoVA/Maryland area AMP/AAAMP scene. Some of it is going to be a product of local policies but a lot of it comes to this area being full of cheapskates. At some point you have to say that youth has some value in and of itself or else don't be upset when you're stuck with a bunch of old, tired therapists who aren't worth a $.

    I am not surprised at all that One Spa, Kim's, Eastern 216, JS, Silk, TTT, NSP, Lily's, Palm, the Ballston hair place, Vermont etc. all lost their under 30 providers within one year. If it were me, I would have moved to CA, Florida, AZ, Washington or New York in less than half the time. At those places just mentioned $$ isn't an unusual standard for youth, even if you aren't getting some hyper-spiritual mong experience of the ages.

    It's not just the state of the economy causing the scene to be the worst it has ever been, but the fact that the standard prices in the D.C. area are too low and hobbyists insist on paying a flat rate even when it is not reasonable to do so. You get what you pay for.

  15. #2944

    Cheapskates

    At some point you have to ask why there are practically zero therapists under 32 in the entire D.C./NoVA/Maryland area AMP/AAAMP scene. Some of it is going to be a product of local policies but a lot of it comes to this area being full of cheapskates. At some point you have to say that youth has some value in and of itself or else don't be upset when you're stuck with a bunch of old, tired therapists who aren't worth a $.

    I am not surprised at all that One Spa, Kim's, Eastern 216, JS, Silk, TTT, NSP, Lily's, Palm, the Ballston hair place, Vermont etc. all lost their under 30 providers within one year. If it were me, I would have moved to CA, Florida, AZ, Washington or New York in less than half the time. At those places just mentioned $$ isn't an unusual standard for youth, even if you aren't getting some hyper-spiritual mong experience of the ages.

    It's not just the state of the economy causing the scene to be the worst it has ever been, but the fact that the standard prices in the D.C. area are too low and hobbyists insist on paying a flat rate even when it is not reasonable to do so. You get what you pay for.

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