Massage Parlor Reports

[Loader401]

First off, this report is late. My 1st report was with a lady named Sony. This report is with the same lady a week afterwards, so, I have no idea who is there now.

I went NSP again and found that the MMS had remembered me. That is always a great feeliing. Anyways, Sony was still there and I did as she asked, which was come in the morning time. Got to the room and the fun instantly began. She stripped me down and brought me to the TS. Lots of roaming, and giggling. We wasted no time and went back to the room for our fun again. $.8 for the experiance. I have to say, it is my new fav spot. I read some reviews about this place and it seems 50/50. I guess I have been lucky. Those who PM'd me before, I hope it worked for you. The treatment was the same if not better-a couple more things on the menu-(always hope for better on a return visit-right? ) If you want the details, you know what to do.

If you have any intel on other fun spots, please PM me. Not that I want to change my spot, it; s just that it is a little out of my ways and I would like to just have options. Somewhere along the 95 corrider!

[Dr Bombay]

There is a new place called Massage Therapy that opened last week in the Sterling area. Near Dranesville Rd and rte 7, its located in a small, ethnic strip mall behind Popeyes. It is discreetly tucked in the corner, the last shop.

I've been there twice and have been told there isn't much business so far. I'm not surprised, its pretty hidden.

Both times I've been there Mimi greeted me. Older, but extremely pleasant, she uses her elbows and knees and gives a very good massage.

Being a new place, they re very careful about draping but standard NOVA practices and prices apply. Extensive roaming is allowed. Thjis is a very nice place and doesn't get packed as Green or King (so far). They want the business so grand opening price for an hour is.7. The main drawback is there is only a standing shower because they are afraid of attracting unwanted attention.

They advertise in CL with the address you can google and phone #.

[Classy Mike]

I have been calling the number Bird gave me all week. No answer and mailbox is full - can't leave a message.

I always appreciate when the ladies do not stop what they are doing to answer the phone.

Sorry if you have not had good luck. It might be worth you time to try again; if you are interested, or try elsewhere.

[Phaik Naim]

Once again found myself by Panera in Falls Church this morning. So I went to the 2nd floor, and again saw Kelly for a half hour. Large (but somewhat saggy) rack, nice lower half. She is in shape.

I will tell you that the place gets very little traffic in the mornings. Kelly told me it was unusual to get anyone before noon, and usually less than 4 before 5pm.

I did not see MMS today, which was a shame. I hope some day she is the provider - knockout body.

This is a no TS place, so the massage began right away. Again, it was lackluster. At the flip, thee was a little front massage and then I was presented with a menu more expansive than at most NOVA places. I went middle of the road on my selection, which I thought was a deal for $.5. Usually a $.6-$.8 service in DC. While it was, again, somewhat mechanical, it was pleasant. Upstairs roaming was allowed inside, downstairs outside was permitted - didn't try to get inside. This time.

At some point I am going to order the most expensive thing on the menu, being $1. I think it could be fun, seeing as how in-shape she is.

I haven't seen much of other providers there, and I've only ever had Kelly as my provider, so I can't vouch for the rest of the staff.

But if you've got The Fever and some time to kill on a weekend morning, I would recommend. Very good value for the money.

[LexLuther]

i believe you are incorrect of you assumption that NY has more willing recipients than the DC area. I used to frequent in NY; Long Island, Manhattan and Queens areas and I can tell you the prices are clear and the same or less.

The real deal is the girls once used up (or been busted too much) on that circuit must move on. They hit Boston, some go west but when they are finally fresh here in NOVA and DC they are no longer a spring chicken (excuse the meat reference, please).

You should not blame the "cheapskates" in this area. Most of the time in NY area they are paying off their debt (in getting to the US) and once that is paid they are free to roam. By that time, they are usually in their 30s. Just think how hard is was for these K and C girls to get US a visa, do you think they could have obtained them without assistance? A lot more controls on the girls until they are older and less desired.

No, it is not cheapskates in this area the girls are just more knowing. If we got the ladies "off the boat" as NY and SF does, things would be different her; it was different 5 short years ago before my first departure from this area.

The only thing I would like people around here to understand is we can set the price but if we give in to the make-up then they will continue to do so. Previous some here published a good guideline for "tipping" and I will suggest we keep to it. would also suggest we find out who is the real "mamasan" and ask her/him to please bring up some younger action.

In this case the market can dictate. More places are opening up, if you ask for a line-up and do not like the selection, tell the management and then tell them to get someone who will not remind you of you mother and grandmother (oriental version)

My 2 cents, thank you

No offense, Justforme, but your 2 cents is worth about, well, 2 cents.

To begin with, the women who work in the massage industry do so for a plethora of reasons. But the ones who are working off debt which they incurred to come to the U.S., almost without exception, did not incur that debt by getting a visa. They are, in fact, usually un-documented. In other words, they were trafficked.

Many of these women, however, are here legally and incurred debt either from a failed business or, most often, from gambling. Others are women who got here by marrying Americans (often service men) and those marriages failed. Regardless of how they incurred debt, the ones who begin their tour of the U.S. in NYC do not stay there until they have paid off their debt. And they are not constrained from working elsewhere until they have done so. It can take a woman (especially if she is un-documented) years to pay off the debt which she owes to the snakeheads who smuggled her in.

There is simply not enough opportunity for them do so in NYC. What you don't understand is that the security which they have pledged to guarantee their loans is not their physical being. They are not even, strictly speaking, required to work in the sex industry. If they could pay off their debts by working as waitresses, they are free to do so and they could do so in any city of their choosing. What secures their debt until they are able to clear it is the family which they have left behind.

You are correct that for many of them (often the illegals), their first port of call is New York City (often Flushing/Queens). But you are incorrect that they stay there until they are used up. They are there for other reasons than what you seem to be suggesting. The reasons for their being in New York is that they have a greater support structure there. They often stay there just long enough to get somewhat acclimated to life in the U.S., learn a bit of English, and then be processed "through the system". This means finding an AMP or spa in another state which will give them a job.

And finally, you are wrong about the reason that AMP girls in places like D.C. are increasingly older. It is not because, as you suggest, that they come here after they are too old to work in the greater N.Y.C. area. It is simply because of changing demographic, social, and economic conditions in their countries of origin (mostly the Republic Of Korea and the Yanbian area of the People's Republic of China). As you may or may not be aware, South Korea and the PRC, are in the midst of an economic boom period. The societies of South Korea and China are also increasingly less male dominated than they once were. Therefore young, attractive women have economic opportunities which do not involve illegally entering the U.S. and working in the sex industry.

I don't know about everyone else, but for me, I'm sick of the dis-information and mis-information which you seem to love to post. However, I wish that if you must continue to post, you could bring yourself to try just a little harder to express yourself using correct grammar and spelling. And finally, an "oriental" is a carpet, not a person. The correct term is "Asian."

LexLuther

[Justforme]

i believe you are incorrect of you assumption that NY has more willing recipients than the DC area. I used to frequent in NY; Long Island, Manhattan and Queens areas and I can tell you the prices are clear and the same or less.

The real deal is the girls once used up (or been busted too much) on that circuit must move on. They hit Boston, some go west but when they are finally fresh here in NOVA and DC they are no longer a spring chicken (excuse the meat reference, please).

You should not blame the "cheapskates" in this area. Most of the time in NY area they are paying off their debt (in getting to the US) and once that is paid they are free to roam. By that time, they are usually in their 30s. Just think how hard is was for these K and C girls to get US a visa, do you think they could have obtained them without assistance? A lot more controls on the girls until they are older and less desired.

No, it is not cheapskates in this area the girls are just more knowing. If we got the ladies "off the boat" as NY and SF does, things would be different her; it was different 5 short years ago before my first departure from this area.

The only thing I would like people around here to understand is we can set the price but if we give in to the make-up then they will continue to do so. Previous some here published a good guideline for "tipping" and I will suggest we keep to it. would also suggest we find out who is the real "mamasan" and ask her/him to please bring up some younger action.

In this case the market can dictate. More places are opening up, if you ask for a line-up and do not like the selection, tell the management and then tell them to get someone who will not remind you of you mother and grandmother (oriental version)

My 2 cents, thank you

At some point you have to ask why there are practically zero therapists under 32 in the entire D.C./NoVA/Maryland area AMP/AAAMP scene. Some of it is going to be a product of local policies but a lot of it comes to this area being full of cheapskates. At some point you have to say that youth has some value in and of itself or else don't be upset when you're stuck with a bunch of old, tired therapists who aren't worth a $.

I am not surprised at all that One Spa, Kim's, Eastern 216, JS, Silk, TTT, NSP, Lily's, Palm, the Ballston hair place, Vermont etc. all lost their under 30 providers within one year. If it were me, I would have moved to CA, Florida, AZ, Washington or New York in less than half the time. At those places just mentioned $$ isn't an unusual standard for youth, even if you aren't getting some hyper-spiritual mong experience of the ages.

It's not just the state of the economy causing the scene to be the worst it has ever been, but the fact that the standard prices in the D.C. area are too low and hobbyists insist on paying a flat rate even when it is not reasonable to do so. You get what you pay for.

[Xsham]

At some point you have to ask why there are practically zero therapists under 32 in the entire D.C./NoVA/Maryland area AMP/AAAMP scene. Some of it is going to be a product of local policies but a lot of it comes to this area being full of cheapskates. At some point you have to say that youth has some value in and of itself or else don't be upset when you're stuck with a bunch of old, tired therapists who aren't worth a $.

I am not surprised at all that One Spa, Kim's, Eastern 216, JS, Silk, TTT, NSP, Lily's, Palm, the Ballston hair place, Vermont etc. all lost their under 30 providers within one year. If it were me, I would have moved to CA, Florida, AZ, Washington or New York in less than half the time. At those places just mentioned $$ isn't an unusual standard for youth, even if you aren't getting some hyper-spiritual mong experience of the ages.

It's not just the state of the economy causing the scene to be the worst it has ever been, but the fact that the standard prices in the D.C. area are too low and hobbyists insist on paying a flat rate even when it is not reasonable to do so. You get what you pay for.

[Justforme]

I remember my first trip to Green's and the young (about 28) asking for $$ for the sweet sugar walls. She claimed she was younger the most and therefore I was getting so much better.

Then I stuck to $ and she gave in. Some realize it is better to have something (fair) then nothing at all.
I have had other times were they did not come to my price and I offered to leave with nothing, she tried to complained when I did not tip for the massage and my response was as they always say in the AMP business "So sorry, maybe next time". Yes, if any give exceptional service she would be entitled to more. TIP is just that a thank you for going beyond the usual mechanical experience. Making someone feel welcome and not just a payment is exceptional service is not usually translate here.

My main concern is finding a cuie that even provides true service. I remember back in 2003, when I came to the area for my first interview. I picked from the phone book and arranged with what promised to be an FS deal. When she got to the hotel room and received the funs this is when she said she is an escort so where would I like her to escort me. At 2 am in NOVA not much to pay for. Of course, I called the service to complain but not much can be done; would anyone be willing to put up a fight in a public hotel.

You live, you learn.

This is why I stay with the AMP but they too have deteriorated in their services over the years. Going back to 2003/2004 many flavors available and the quality was usually nice. The scene has lagged since but appears to be picking up at time but you have to be ready to settle for old and wiser but this does not always translate into a more experienced massage…
Just an old man recollecting; thanks for your time.

Dude, I hate to say it, but she was probably more justified in demanding her price rather than you in sticking to yours. You don't sit down in a restaurant and finish a steak dinner without knowing the price up-front. Even if the steak weren't tender, you tacitly accepted their price when you ordered and began eating.

It's the same way with a gal at an AMP: You partook before knowing her price, so you were kinda obligated to pay her. (Granted, $.5 is high, but it's not out of range for FS. Now, if she demanded 1k$ or something like that, then you might have been justified in saying "No." But, as it stands, she deserved to be paid. You were at fault for not enquiring up-front as to her price. (If you had done that, her price might have been a bit lower. But who knows?)

Just my two Liras' worth

RR

[Roamin Roman]

I told her I brought a cover, she held out her hand, took it and began to strip. Nice 34C-26-34 shape (confirmed). Afterwards, she demanded $.5 which was WAY out of line. We went back and forth for about 5 minuted haggeling. She was not going to budge and neither was I. I have been around and I do not pay $.5 uinless everything is exceptional and nothing in NOVA has been exceptional. Tops is $. At best she was a 6 and was a bit rushed.

Dude, I hate to say it, but she was probably more justified in demanding her price rather than you in sticking to yours. You don't sit down in a restaurant and finish a steak dinner without knowing the price up-front. Even if the steak weren't tender, you tacitly accepted their price when you ordered and began eating.

It's the same way with a gal at an AMP: You partook before knowing her price, so you were kinda obligated to pay her. (Granted, $.5 is high, but it's not out of range for FS. Now, if she demanded 1k$ or something like that, then you might have been justified in saying "No." But, as it stands, she deserved to be paid. You were at fault for not enquiring up-front as to her price. If you had done that, her price might have been a bit lower. But who knows?)

Just my two Liras' worth

RR

[Jack Bones]

After sitting out for a while decided to give things another go.

Reports lead me to believe that Crown was new, clean & had a nice staff. Reports were right. Stand-up shower not what I'm used to, but it's new, clean & right next to a sauna. First visit w/Jae (this was about a mo ago. Not sure if she's still there). Very nice, good service, attention to detail on the massage. Second visit w/Bebe. While I've read some nice reviews on her, I wasn't so impressed. When she greeted me, she asked if I had called in. I hadn't, so I'm thinking she was expecting someone & she was by herself. Sure enough, the door rang 15 mins into my hour & she was back & forth a few times trying to make everyone happy. Overall, decent, but service could have been better. I'll giver her the BOD & assume she was distracted.

Most recently, checked out Kim's. I can see why this place is a regular for so many. Nice place. Mamasan greeted at door. Took me back collected 1 hr fee & promised "nice pretty girl". Mindy followed a few minutes afterwards. Great personality, good hard massage that included a walk on my back. Standard NoVa fare, no clock watching. Even during mid-day, got a full hour. Offered a bottle of H2O & out the door. She says she'll be in the area for a few months. I'd probably see again, but still checking things out. It's great to be back!

[Justdandy]

Does anyone have any info on Maryjane &/or Julie who advertise on Backpage? I don't need details and I'm not fishing for incriminating facts - I just want to ensure it's not a rip-off, like taking your minutes for just sitting there and talking, "how-dare-you-suggest-I-do-something-like-that" type of scenario.

Maryjane's latest ad: http://washingtondc.backpage.com/Bod...Ad?oid=1933971

Julie's latest ad: http://washingtondc.backpage.com/Bod...Ad?oid=1940888

Do you see any other red flags going off? I couldn't find any TER reviews and i searched these forums under Virginia and didn't come up with anything.

Thanks all

A couple of updates on this.

There is another variant of Maryjane's add that lists a girl named Augusta and yet another variant that lists "Maryjane" and "Julie" together. The photos on Backpage tie them all together.

So this morning I tried calling the 703 # several times over the course of an hour. Sweet sounding female voice on the recording. I never got through to someone live and I chose not to leave a vmail (and I appreciate the fact they didn't call me back off caller id).

I tried Julie's 202 # once, no answer.

So I called up Sapphire Entertainment (bluegems.com) and had a very nice time with new girl, Brook.

[Vahotguy]

My last visit was about 4-5 months ago so I decided to stop in after a long visit to SpaWorld. Only one person there about 40ish with an ok shape. Since I just had a shower, we decided to wait after the masaage. The massage was good about -9 and she even gave me a good foot scrub and lotion foot massage. After talking a bit, she remembered me and chatted a while. On the flip, she said how about a light pubic trim? OK, be careful with the boys. TS then she dropped her panties and began a good wash which I helped her with. DATY? not for me. But, I am sure it is on the menu. Then back to the room for a standard NOVA finish. Total about 1-1/2hr probably because no one was else was there in the afternoon. Damages .8/.75

[Vahotguy]

I have had good results with FE. If they truely believe you have been there before, the menu is great. Nice, new, clean appearance. However, this was several weeks ago. It looks like the good guys are camping out. Heads-up

[Vahotguy]

Stopped by on a first visit based on other reports. The mamasan lead me to the room and requested the 1hr.8 fare. I asked to see the girls and she said that two were busy and she would send in Candi her best girl. She is an attractive k-girl with a nice rack. Went to the TS which was ok the back to the room. Towel on the whole time during the massage which I am not fond. I did some roaming with no refuesal. Then, I told her I brought a cover, she held out her hand, took it and began to strip. Nice 34C-26-34 shape (confirmed). Afterwards, she demanded $.5 which was WAY out of line. We went back and forth for about 5 minuted haggeling. She was not going to budge and neither was I. I have been around and I do not pay $.5 uinless everything is exceptional and nothing in NOVA has been exceptional. Tops is $. At best she was a 6 and was a bit rushed. Return? Probably not. Don't care for the staff or neighborhood.

[Aesder]

Guys, I need a reccommendation on AMP in the area. I will be staying in Alexandria for the weekend and will need some relief. I'll only have time and funds for one or two visits. I'm not against seeing a condo girl if that is where the action and spinners are.

PM me if you want to keep it private.

thx