OPSEC. Operattional Security

**CollegeParkBoy** · Yesterday 13:14

Originally Posted by JmSuttr [View Original Post]

One noteworthy thing about the DMV is the large number of people who possess some level of security clearance. With most (all?) federal agencies currently doing, or moving toward, continuous vetting, I wonder if the information from Flock cameras might come into play at some point? Whether or not it becomes a routine thing would probably depend on cost. But, with the increasing use of AI tools, it wouldn't surprise me to see it used in certain situations. I'm not an expert but, from information I've read, with the right data points in a query it can essentially assemble a map and timeline of a person's movements and routines.

Also, include federal contractors along with federal agencies. Just another "Big Brother" scenario to consider. Damn!

I'm pretty sure they already know what you're (and mongers) doing regardless. Flock cameras have been around way before they just weren't called that. And with the whole spying through your phone stuff I'm betting they know what is going on out here. Whether they decide to fully pursue is another question.

**FarFarAway** · Yesterday 12:41

Originally Posted by RogerOver [View Original Post]

Personally, I won't do it. As you mentioned, they can record or get a snapshot of your face, and run it through an image search engine. Personally, I've worked in a field where I did a lot of public speaking. I can plug my picture into those search engines and it will pop out with my real pic, name, and all the goodies.

I suppose it all depends on your own risk profile and tolerance.

I recommend you take one of the photos you usually supply to POTs and run it through the 3 main sites. Once it finds the real you, you can put in a request to the site to delete your search results.

Also keep in mind, the girl not only needs to find your pic online by facial rec, she needs to pay the fee for facial rec to get to the actual page w / your pic.

**RogerOver** · Yesterday 12:24

Originally Posted by JSenti [View Original Post]

I had an indie girl ask to video verify with me. That was the only verification she requested. I had already told her my age, race, etc. I declined but the more I thought about it, the more curious I became.

I understand why as customers we would want to video verify the provider, because of how often they lie about their looks, age, etc. Or we could be walking into a setup.

But what would a provider gain from a video verification? Is it purely to look at your face and decide if she feels like getting intimate with you?

Is it so she can grab a screenshot of your face in case something winds up happening to her, she has a picture of you on her phone?

Is it for some other reasons I haven't thought of?

I am not inclined to do it because it seems like it could be used against you in a bust or even just the threat of blackmail.

What are your opinions on this? If you're someone like me who won't send IDs, will you video verify? Why or why not?

Personally, I won't do it. As you mentioned, they can record or get a snapshot of your face, and run it through an image search engine. Personally, I've worked in a field where I did a lot of public speaking. I can plug my picture into those search engines and it will pop out with my real pic, name, and all the goodies.

I suppose it all depends on your own risk profile and tolerance.

**JSenti** · 09-19-26 23:29

I had an indie girl ask to video verify with me. That was the only verification she requested. I had already told her my age, race, etc. I declined but the more I thought about it, the more curious I became.

I understand why as customers we would want to video verify the provider, because of how often they lie about their looks, age, etc. Or we could be walking into a setup.

But what would a provider gain from a video verification? Is it purely to look at your face and decide if she feels like getting intimate with you?

Is it so she can grab a screenshot of your face in case something winds up happening to her, she has a picture of you on her phone?

Is it for some other reasons I haven't thought of?

I am not inclined to do it because it seems like it could be used against you in a bust or even just the threat of blackmail.

What are your opinions on this? If you're someone like me who won't send IDs, will you video verify? Why or why not?

**JmSuttr** · 09-19-26 21:55

One noteworthy thing about the DMV is the large number of people who possess some level of security clearance. With most (all?) federal agencies currently doing, or moving toward, continuous vetting, I wonder if the information from Flock cameras might come into play at some point? Whether or not it becomes a routine thing would probably depend on cost. But, with the increasing use of AI tools, it wouldn't surprise me to see it used in certain situations. I'm not an expert but, from information I've read, with the right data points in a query it can essentially assemble a map and timeline of a person's movements and routines.

Also, include federal contractors along with federal agencies. Just another "Big Brother" scenario to consider. Damn!

**Tom McAn** · 09-19-26 14:38

Originally Posted by Stroon78 [View Original Post]

I recently got into watch collecting and purchased my first "luxury" watch. I love wearing it and have taken it with me to several sessions. However, I thought about the possibility of it getting stolen. I guess, the fear stems not from the provider but from a potential customer breaking in and taking it. Maybe I'm over thinking it. Prior to my watch collecting, I was wearing an iPhone Ultra so I would bring that and my phone to a session. I guess, I could just leave it in the car or at home but I got into watches because I like wearing them out over the Ultra. Thoughts?

I'd leave any expensive watches at home if you're going to see a provider. If you must wear a watch, wear something cheap and put it in your pants pocket while you're busy. The $12 watch I bought at Walmart tells time just as well as the fancy watch I inherited from a deceased relative some years ago.

Having been robbed previously by a couple of providers, I strongly recommend not bringing any valuables with you. Just bring your car keys if driving and the cash you need for your visit. Dressing discretely in nondescript clothing is also a good idea.

Edited to add: regarding cash, bring only the cash you need for your visit. Leave the rest locked up in your car or leave it at home. Don't bring check, credit, or debit cards with you. You shouldn't see any providers who demand deposits or advance payment and won't accept cash at the time services are rendered.

**BMoreDog69** · 09-18-26 23:08

Don't take anything you aren't planning to give her, or aren't willing to lose.

Originally Posted by Stroon78 [View Original Post]

I recently got into watch collecting and purchased my first "luxury" watch. I love wearing it and have taken it with me to several sessions. However, I thought about the possibility of it getting stolen. I guess, the fear stems not from the provider but from a potential customer breaking in and taking it. Maybe I'm over thinking it. Prior to my watch collecting, I was wearing an iPhone Ultra so I would bring that and my phone to a session. I guess, I could just leave it in the car or at home but I got into watches because I like wearing them out over the Ultra. Thoughts?

**Blarghonk** · 09-18-26 23:00

Originally Posted by Brainless [View Original Post]

With flock cameras now being a thing the personal vehicle is an additional layer of risk.

Just drive a company vehicle, problem solved! : D

**FarFarAway** · 09-18-26 15:07

Originally Posted by Dunnit [View Original Post]

I leave my watch at home, wallet and excess cash in the car and my phone in the car unless there is information I need, like door access codes that I don't think I would remember.

Standard practice just as if you were seeing an escort, unless you get into a LTR w / a sugar, and then you don't need our advice.

I get my SB to get a room at a DayUse hotel. The only thing I take in is car keys, an envelope w / allowance, cash for the room (so she can freely know she has that covered), and whatever sex equipment. Food / drink, toys, lube, etc. Sometimes I even get the SB to get some of that. As there's a warden at my house, it helps if I don't have to track stuff down on my way to the FC. Sometimes I take in a bouquet of grocery store flowers, it is worth the investment if you think you want to see the girl again.

**JmSuttr** · 09-18-26 14:51

A cautionary tale:

https://www.breitbart.com/pre-viral/...-pricey-rolex/

Stay safe out there!

**Dunnit** · 09-18-26 09:13

Originally Posted by Stroon78 [View Original Post]

I recently got into watch collecting and purchased my first "luxury" watch. I love wearing it and have taken it with me to several sessions. However, I thought about the possibility of it getting stolen. I guess, the fear stems not from the provider but from a potential customer breaking in and taking it. Maybe I'm over thinking it. Prior to my watch collecting, I was wearing an iPhone Ultra so I would bring that and my phone to a session. I guess, I could just leave it in the car or at home but I got into watches because I like wearing them out over the Ultra. Thoughts?

I leave my watch at home, wallet and excess cash in the car and my phone in the car unless there is information I need, like door access codes that I don't think I would remember.

**Brainless** · 09-18-26 08:49

Originally Posted by Stroon78 [View Original Post]

I recently got into watch collecting and purchased my first "luxury" watch. I love wearing it and have taken it with me to several sessions. However, I thought about the possibility of it getting stolen. I guess, the fear stems not from the provider but from a potential customer breaking in and taking it. Maybe I'm over thinking it. Prior to my watch collecting, I was wearing an iPhone Ultra so I would bring that and my phone to a session. I guess, I could just leave it in the car or at home but I got into watches because I like wearing them out over the Ultra. Thoughts?

The hobby comes with inherent risks because it's a situation where people are hesitant to involve law enforcement. As a general rule, I think it's good sense to prepare as if you will be robbed, or picked up and to minimize attention. So I leave the flashy clothes, accessories, and excess cash at home. Valuable electronics that can be stolen or have tracking I also try not to bring.

Minor inconvenience if nothing happens, great. But if your watch does get stolen during a visit? You going to call the cops?

With flock cameras now being a thing the personal vehicle is an additional layer of risk.

**Stroon78** · 09-18-26 08:19

I recently got into watch collecting and purchased my first "luxury" watch. I love wearing it and have taken it with me to several sessions. However, I thought about the possibility of it getting stolen. I guess, the fear stems not from the provider but from a potential customer breaking in and taking it. Maybe I'm over thinking it. Prior to my watch collecting, I was wearing an iPhone Ultra so I would bring that and my phone to a session. I guess, I could just leave it in the car or at home but I got into watches because I like wearing them out over the Ultra. Thoughts?

**FarFarAway** · 07-22-26 14:54

Originally Posted by MrNiubility [View Original Post]

I have been puzzled about discrete online payment (cash equivalent) for the hobby. Doesn't paypal / cashapp / venmo require your real name / address and linked to your real banking in order to fund? How would you send these payment when f2 f cash transaction is not possible (allowance to sb, deposit (not that I want to do it, still good to know)?

Thanks a lot.

A common topic of posts. Also covered in the Archive of sugar posts for the Richmond thread, which used to be the de facto national thread for sugar.

People are using prepaid debit cards, many of which fail, actually.

**MrNiubility** · 07-17-26 16:39

I have been puzzled about discrete online payment (cash equivalent) for the hobby. Doesn't paypal / cashapp / venmo require your real name / address and linked to your real banking in order to fund? How would you send these payment when f2 f cash transaction is not possible (allowance to sb, deposit (not that I want to do it, still good to know)?

Thanks a lot.