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Thread: Hot Young Asian Girls in OC

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  1. #3571
    If you don't like to read, it's summarized as: S-Tier can be premium, A-Tier can upcharge, B-Tier can bb-special, and C-Tier cannot last long once people have seen her one time (she is welcome for 1-2 weeks). Premium should really be 400 or 450 HR max, because we have alternatives.

    When a girl is about 15% over-priced (400 if she should be 350), interest falls off a cliff. It's too obvious past 15%, even guys who like her notice because there are other girls they like. You can skip the rest, it just explains pricing dynamic and how many people judge Value.

    Quote Originally Posted by RockItAllNite  [View Original Post]
    The provider and her BOSS. Most newbies go with the boss's recommendation. The bosses are always pushing for higher pricing.
    Some bosses push for lower pricing, some bosses push for higher pricing. It is largely the former. People notice when girls are overpriced, so it rarely works. But, there are also valid reasons for higher prices.

    Three Pricing Rules
    A better girl can charge more, but they're rare. They are allowed to charge more as the only way to bring them over in the first place. In a majority of cases, those girls were never normal priced. So it's not like they are trying to take mid girls and turn them premium.

    When tracking the same girl within a year, I have seen as many price drops as price rises. People just don't notice about the price drops as much or feel anything about them. So a person might complain about price rises for girls they won't see - but when another girl drops her prices they won't see her either! They are sitting on the sidelines while other people are busy picking girls.

    Between years, if rent, living expense, travel, or other basic costs go up, there may be a yearly bump in prices. Typically 10-30 lately. A girl would actually make less money if she were to charge the same rate as last year. It's the same with restaurants now. Most would be unprofitable if they rolled back prices and would close and leave town.

    Fixing Wrong Prices
    Of course, we are talking about the average girl or restuarant. One way to fix prices, is for girls and restaurants that are overpriced to close and leave. Higher standards.

    Another way is for overpriced girls to notice and drop prices. At the premium level this year, just as many girls dropped their price as those who raised it. But spending has dropped so much, I expect price drops to be more common in the future. Just today I pointed out another price drop for LA. Even if you don't see her, it indirectly benefits you. It is a slow process.

    We pay indirectly for problem customers and natural disasters alike. Boner was pointing out the Palisades fire as an example, and it is just one example factor. I'll point out that 50% of price increases happened on one day in January (a 10-30 bump).

    Two Kinds of Girls
    There are certain girls who are long-time locals and can charge less, because they have way fewer costs and urgency. But for the very same reasons, most of them don't need to work a lot either. Most girls are not like that, they have costs and limited time. There are two kinds of girls.

    Advanced Pricing Rules
    Generally, new girls can price higher than if they were long-tour veterans. They are by definition priced higher than girls who are better than them. So a brand new B-Tier girl is worth a long-tour A-Tier girl. You've already seen the A-Tier many times, so you pick the B-Tier girl on purpose. But then after seeing that B-Tier girl, she is worth just B-Tier now and you go back to your ATF. Almost all of us care about new to some degree.

    All things equal, a new A-Tier girl would be priced higher than an old A-Tier girl for that reason. It's possible for a new girl to price normally and get fully booked. In fact, that is the correct strategy if she can handle it. But, most new girls can't. That's the final reason why some girls are priced higher than they seem. It's because they can't take full bookings.

    People Know Value
    A-Tier upcharge girls and B-Tier bb special girls do very well because they are a step up from the rest. They set the standard, and a girl can't survive long if she's too far behind them. In an Intel rich environment, that is called The Draft.

    A girl who is "hotter than her price" gets fully booked. It doesn't matter if her price is low or high. A C-Tier girl charging 150 bb special would be fully booked. Maybe not by you, but she would. "Hotter than her price" is what I meant by "green pricing", as shown:
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...9&d=1785136433 Top 35

    Green Pricing
    Every girl with a green rate is priced for repeat to me. Since everyone has a different ATF list and a different order, each guy has a different list of "green priced" girls. But there is a ton of overlap in people's taste. We're not that blind. So the Draft happens as a result.

    Notice that the reason some people go to Thailand, Japan, or some other countries is because there exist "gold price" girls. The coloring is done by formula. Once you go to 50th to 100th place, green price becomes uncommon. This is known as "one and done" pricing.

    There are no 150 bb special C-Tier girls, because prices do follow a pattern. So the data shows me that S-Tier can be premium, A-Tier can upcharge, B-Tier can bb-special, and C-Tier cannot last long once people realize and have seen her one time. I've shown elsewhere how a C-Tier girl is really anywhere from an A through E to another guy based on taste. That plus the new girl advantage means they are more than welcome to visit for two weeks, and some people are very happy to meet them. But they can't stay.

    Even if I never reviewed or said a word, it would still happen. Reviews and Intel just speed it up. The best motivation for reviews is they increase the chance someone goes straight for their ATF and dodge a girl who is opposite of their type. Don't waste time or money. People who win tend to review too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    When I scroll down to the 50-100 place, the 'worth repeating' green mark is more and more infrequent. The top 25% of kgirls are well-priced, while the remaining 75% are overpriced. It is a different list of girls for each guy, but almost every guy sees it that way to some extent.
    Everyone's ranked list looks different, but everyone has the concept of green pricing. The result is guys of all types will repeat their #1 girl a lot more than their #2 or #3, and then more than the rest.

    When Premium Hunters use their scale to calculate their Limit numbers (S = 8 Points), some of the Premium girls turn green. But each Premium Hunter has a different opinion on ATFs. It's quite important that Premium girls lower their prices a bit accordingly. They'll make a lot more money. But, some of them aren't looking to make money through appointments. That's not why they work. I wrote it out clearly in The Professionals and The Doom.

    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    Extended Commentary
    Me: S = 6.3, A = 4.5, B = 3, C = 2, D = 1, E = Fail, F = Please pay me instead.
    BB Yoda Value Hunters: S: 4.5, A: 4, B: 3, C: 2, D: 1
    Premium Hunters are S: 8, A: 5, B: 3, C: 1, D: 0.

    We have a different way to scale how much we're willing to pay for a better girl. You can see Yoda has the same strict minimum standards as everyone, but he can't justify premiums. It would mean he'd have to go a week without a girl instead. Whereas Premium Hunters ignore the mid girls and look for top tier.
    The rest is not hard to figure out. We each have different criteria, and Premium girls have limited appeal. They know they'd make way more money charging a bit less. A few of them actually lowered prices by 50 or 100. Others won't.

  2. #3570
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaamper  [View Original Post]
    Hwasa is not HYA. She is a respectable MILF, but not worth her recently added +$100 for BBFSCIP. IMO, you'll get a similar experience for $100 less with someone like Hanie or Danica or Divine. Save the upcharge for true HYA.
    I noticed her increase too. Perhaps she thought her new pics would serve as a siren's song.

  3. #3569

    Imo

    Quote Originally Posted by KdocBar  [View Original Post]
    Haven't found any reports for the following three that got my attention. Willing to tofftt but appreciate if anyone can confirm if these are HYA.

    - Sana J.

    - cherry.

    - Hwasa.
    Hwasa is not HYA. She is a respectable MILF, but not worth her recently added +$100 for BBFSCIP. IMO, you'll get a similar experience for $100 less with someone like Hanie or Danica or Divine. Save the upcharge for true HYA.

  4. #3568
    Quote Originally Posted by BigZhangMang  [View Original Post]
    The provider sets their pricing and menu.
    The provider and her BOSS. Most newbies go with the boss's recommendation. The bosses are always pushing for higher pricing.

  5. #3567
    Haven't found any reports for the following three that got my attention. Willing to tofftt but appreciate if anyone can confirm if these are HYA.

    - Sana J.

    - cherry.

    - Hwasa.

  6. #3566

    Baby Cheney x3

    Baby Cheney x3.

    TLDR: Submissive bring your own service CYA / HYA that can be unlocked and will remain in OC if business is good.

    P: Not her. Face pics don't really do a good job representing her face, but the selfie with the face blocked off is very representative of her body.

    L: Her posted stats match her. I consider her CYA / HYA. Her face balances on the edge of east asian Korean and light skinned southeast asian favoring the former most of the time. She is mid 20's at best, likely late 20's to very early 30's, and at worst mid 30's. 5'5"-5'6" with MM Cs that feel real. She's gorgeous IMO. Long black hair. Not a fat or perfect booty, but an incredibly well shaped and soft one that has more than enough to grab. You really don't get it until you feel it with both hands, do whatever you want with them, while your mouth is sucking on one of her milkers or your firing backshots. Her mid section has no fat and it's one of her best qualities. Makes me rock hard every time I see it, as it's the cherry on top. If she exercised she could be a 10/10.

    E: Very little. She knows enough to get by on simple exchanges but if you want deep conversations use a translator. She drops Korean often when trying to speak English to fill in for words she doesn't know.

    A: On the friendlier spectrum in the context of HYA but she started off cold. We both joke with each other and laugh together.

    S: She is 100% bring your own service CYA / HYA so be prepared. Based on her other reviews if you let her lead you will probably have a bad session with the impression she is mechanical and detached. My sessions did not go that way. I think she has a routine, as the first two times after the typical kgirl hygiene ritual where she provided no preview, she told me to get on the bed. Both times I ignored her soft spoken demand and assertively made the session my own. She complied immediately, and my third visit she knew how it would go. She is submissive and that makes her all the more sexy. I can confirm she closes her eyes during the deed but that doesn't bother me. Gets extremely wet with DATY and you can taste the change, full DFK whenever I initiated and she never cut it short, in the 90th percentile of BBBJ skills (I literally cannot forget the suction she is capable of and pairs it with audible slurping), went through all the positions I wanted and BBBJ in between when I wanted. She never complained once. The only thing she didn't like was DATO so I could only slide / hover over that part, but she recoiled every time. BBFSCIP finish every time because I can't resist but for the CIM enjoyers I bet that finish would be top considering her mouth skills.

    E: 350/ HR, +100/ BB, +50/ MSOG.

    Are: Yes. I've seen her 3 x. Once in LA after the booker highly recommended her when she first arrived and twice in OC. After the first session I asked booker when she will be arriving in OC, and she replied if she slows down in LA. It appears she has and her decision to stay here is likely based on the same. She reminds me a bit of Victoria from a while ago, but Cheney's service is better if you can bring your game. YMMV.

  7. #3565
    This is Baby Cheney.

    Quote Originally Posted by SoloAdventure  [View Original Post]
    Been here a week and crickets. Copying gate smasher LemonPepper's review from the LA thread. This was my experience too.

    I had concerns booking her from the lukewarm reviews on her personality. She's not GFE and she will not pretend to be. If you're okay with that, she'll be a great time. Give her a minute to warm up, lay a little charm. She's super friendly, funny, good vibes. Loud laugh. This is how a non-GFE like - more transactional provider should be. Sex is a FB kind of thing.

    The pink selfie with her face blocked, that could be her. That's basically her body shape. Rest are fake pics. That ass. It's a sleeper ass. You're not going to notice anything at first. Then she gets on all fours and that ass just plumps up. Big and squishy. Same with prone. Ass is beautiful. May not be good for magnums.

    She said she's leaving if things are slow so I'm sharing this with you lurkers. LOL.

  8. #3564
    Quote Originally Posted by LemonPepper  [View Original Post]
    P: Face not her. Body pics generally representative.

    L: 5'6". About 30. B-/ B face, A+ body. MM Cs that are firm at the base but soft otherwise. Slim but not skinny with a phat ass that doesn't reveal its full potential until doggy / prone bone. Light tanned skinned with one tattoo down her spine and another small one on her bottom right foot. Body lowkey gave me taller meatier aqua vibes but not fat.

    E: Good enough for light conversation.

    A: Friendly and a little clumsy, laughs at herself and at you a decent amount.

    S: Shower no preview. LFK and DFK. Above average BBBJ with plenty of DT. Multiple positions no complaints. Doggy and prone bone are the highlight. Pussy is quite tight and gets very wet naturally. I can see the mechanical service comments when starting out but when she warms up she starts to enjoy herself.

    E: 350/ HR, +100/ BB, +50/ MSOG.

    R: Yes.
    Been here a week and crickets. Copying gate smasher LemonPepper's review from the LA thread. This was my experience too.

    I had concerns booking her from the lukewarm reviews on her personality. She's not GFE and she will not pretend to be. If you're okay with that, she'll be a great time. Give her a minute to warm up, lay a little charm. She's super friendly, funny, good vibes. Loud laugh. This is how a non-GFE like - more transactional provider should be. Sex is a FB kind of thing.

    The pink selfie with her face blocked, that could be her. That's basically her body shape. Rest are fake pics. That ass. It's a sleeper ass. You're not going to notice anything at first. Then she gets on all fours and that ass just plumps up. Big and squishy. Same with prone. Ass is beautiful. May not be good for magnums.

    She said she's leaving if things are slow so I'm sharing this with you lurkers. LOL.

  9. #3563

    Danbi

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBlackRabbit  [View Original Post]
    Earlier than expected. What did you guys do?!
    I am wondering the same. It was way too early than the planned departure date. Sad I won't get the chance to see her again but more importantly I just hope she didn't leave due to some of you.

  10. #3562

    Ms Angel did the same

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBlackRabbit  [View Original Post]
    Earlier than expected. What did you guys do?!
    Ms Angel from FA also left earlier than expected.

  11. #3561

    Danbi left

    Earlier than expected. What did you guys do?!

  12. #3560
    Quote Originally Posted by Goku17  [View Original Post]
    The booker don't know, it is up to the girl, but usually 100-150, and sometimes they won't even do it with you even if they are a BB girl, I think depends on chemistry cleanliness etc YMMV.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanntt  [View Original Post]
    Anyone has any idea? Booker say its up to the girls to discuss?

    Don't want to go there and the upcharge is $200+.

    Thanks.
    It's pretty much a gamble and if BB is a dealbreaker then just be wary. I've heard anywhere from $100-$300, super YMMV

  13. #3559
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanntt  [View Original Post]
    Anyone has any idea? Booker say its up to the girls to discuss?

    Don't want to go there and the upcharge is $200+.

    Thanks.
    The booker don't know, it is up to the girl, but usually 100-150, and sometimes they won't even do it with you even if they are a BB girl, I think depends on chemistry cleanliness etc YMMV.

  14. #3558

    OC V Girls BB rates?

    Anyone has any idea? Booker say its up to the girls to discuss?

    Don't want to go there and the upcharge is $200+.

    Thanks.

  15. #3557
    Quote Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty  [View Original Post]
    Boner lives matter too! I haven't changed my hobby tho. I can understand why business is slow. The economy, the rate, upcharges, the shills, rebrands, MILFs, lower quality service and looks, and the gate keepers all contribute to the slowdown. It might help a bit if more legit reviewers contribute. I remember seeing Download X recently said there are HYAs at 280 to 320 / hr. Who were they LOL?

    I am just less excited when too many rebrands, MILFs, and upcharge girls. I don't mind upcharge girls if they are at least CYA. But truly, I need new HYA or IOP to keep The Boner going. There are still 4 girls I want to repeat regularly, not to mention a bunch of other potentially new young girls.

    I don't look at a girl with 350/hr + 100/BB + 50/MSOG as a 500/hr girl. She's a 350/hr girl cause I ain't doing upcharges if she's not hot and young enough. I swore not to succumb to upcharge even if it was 20 for BB. TBH, if an unknown girl lowers her rate below 340, or gives BB special, I start to suspect she doesn't have the looks or youth to compete with HYAs. I don't really do BB special cause I am still looks over service type. I have no choice but to spend to unlock the gate kept girls.
    I agrre with you, there are multiple factors on why prices are too high.

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