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  1. #6299

    How to check

    Quote Originally Posted by Vevor12  [View Original Post]
    Just curious how is that not clear on visual if she is one? Is the surgery that good now that the plumbing is that surreal?
    If there is no clear visual cue, do the ol' "nut check".

    If she flinches she's a man.

    Anyhow, this is the fittest chick I have ever been with (attached). She might have been maybe 19%ish. Body was banging, no sag anywhere, her abs and ass were hard as rocks. I'd consider her very fit.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Screenshot 2026-07-14 174117.jpg‎  

  2. #6298
    Quote Originally Posted by JackShackHuntr  [View Original Post]
    Pushing 40 and body isn't as tight as the pics suggest, but still attractive with great service and a very sex positive girl. Price feels inflatedlikely for the white girl tax.
    Thanks for the Intel.

    Pricing is tricky because a higher rate is what attracts girls, even though that same higher rate makes them a lot less money unless they are also young and hot. It is just very competitive. But, since she is White she does get the White girl tax because it makes some guys looking for that very happy. Same way a girl with very good Tits will make some guys very happy even if she is missing many other things. So, it's enough to point out how a girl is so true fans show up. Everyone gets more value when they pick their type of girl.

    There are new girls coming in at bb-special (0 or 50 bb), and they'll be popular because they are some level of young and hot. Plus some very hot GFE girls that are arguably underpriced and underrated. It is hard to break it to the older girls that they need to match or beat these rates. If things were hard last week, they are going to harder this and next week with more cheap and beautiful girls coming in. Every city has the same problem - too many girls. Every city. A small price drop would help, but you can't really persuade girls to. Instead, what you can do is simply pick the better priced girls. The result speaks for itself.

    People are learning over time that a higher price doesn't mean hotter or younger. Some girls are just priced more and nobody knows why. There is nothing we can do other than not see them. It's usually only a 50 or 100 price difference for the mid girls who would be worth seeing if cheaper, in combo with matchmaking. The one good thing about a higher priced girl is that she's not busy and that is sometimes nice. But that advantage only goes so far.

    Sometimes a higher price makes sense and we'll point it out. But the other side of that is people are risk adverse to higher priced girls, and the lack of reliable Intel actually confirms what people already suspect. It's not even that people see them and don't like them - even the booker is not going to persuade many people to see them. So less and less people see them over time. Only real Intel will make a girl more and more popular over time. People have learned the difference. So, honesty in feedback and reports matters. We do have our biases, but it's not like if I praise a jgirl she is going to turn out to be an auntie who has no Looks. I would still caution non-jgirl fans not to see jgirls though, since it is hard to vibe if you aren't into them.

    The booker has three types of girls: Popular girls who are superstars on Looks and/or Service, decent girls that some guys like, and then girls that don't stand out. Most bookers will immediately recommend the first girls until they run out, then the second group. They might never get to the third group. They'll offer them as options, but if asked they aren't going to hype a girl who people aren't giving good feedback on. As long as they have the first or second group available, there is no incentive to push the third list of girls at all.

    The irony is some of the superstars might not be your type. She might be very beautiful and hot, but low service - so HYA Hunters are praising her but she's not for the Service Guys. Vice versa. Whereas the third tier girl might be a perfect fit for some guy if only someone would describe her pros and cons accurately. For example, if she was a thick girl with civvie vibe, then guys who want exactly that should rush in and win. Or maybe she is "Tits only" or a certain race or look. But, such girls need to price correctly because the only people who will see them are the rare guys who have big budgets and have already seen other girls. There are first tier girls who also have the exact same things. Some for literally the same price or lower.

    There are many girls who I had fun seeing and other people had fun seeing, but we can't even recommend them to others due to their pricing. They are borderline backup girls when your girl cancels. Sometimes, the best I could do is say if you like A and B and C you should see her. Which is a very narrow appeal. There were other top HYA where I could say if you liked X or Y or Z you can see them. That's way more people for an OR than for an AND. Higher pricing turns OR recs into AND recs.

  3. #6297
    Quote Originally Posted by LuvBoba  [View Original Post]
    Anyone tried? Must be Kazak girl, but I like her look. 400/ GFE only is steep but if pics are real and close, I think I'd give her a try. She's already been here a week or so, somebody here must have tried her. I don't mind toftt, I do a lot but just curious first if anyone can give feedback?
    Pushing 40 and body isn't as tight as the pics suggest, but still attractive with great service and a very sex positive girl. Price feels inflated—likely for the white girl tax.

  4. #6296

    Sara-are?

    Anyone tried? Must be Kazak girl, but I like her look. 400/ GFE only is steep but if pics are real and close, I think I'd give her a try. She's already been here a week or so, somebody here must have tried her. I don't mind toftt, I do a lot but just curious first if anyone can give feedback?

  5. #6295
    Quote Originally Posted by ResilientJohn  [View Original Post]
    I wouldn't categorically make that statement. Amy V has had her ups and down with weight gain / loss. As for the recent past girls like Nali, Heaven K, Rainy, Evian (before her weight gain), Baby see you, Baby Eve, etc. Are easily fit with low body fat. Then you had past champs like Lyn, Flynn, Viet Tien, Hana, and others that had that physique. One that really left an impression for me for Sunlight (at leaast I think that was her name). She was tall and shaped like a pro Volleyball player.
    Yeah. I over generalized. The underlying point is fit is not the norm. I don't care about previous Amy. We're talking about Amy V now and we see her IG. She's fit. Rainy is not fit. Skinny low body fat is not the same as fit low body fat. There's a difference. Same with Heaven K. She's into nutrition and yoga but I would still place her on the side of just being skinny than fit. That said, OP just said low body fat. Since he's into fitness, I made the mistake of adding fit to it. Just considering low body fat, you're right with more options.

  6. #6294

    Stigma

    Quote Originally Posted by ResilientJohn  [View Original Post]
    I think a lot of it had to do with the association of pretty Thai girl = possible ladyboy. Also, she had a relatively deep husky voice. But most people, like myself, dismiss this mischaracterization. Mainly because if you are in this business you would cover up that obvious trait by speaking in a higher pitch. Secondly, anyone who has been exposed to a bunch of girls will know that there are girls with naturally deep voice and vice versa guys with high pitched voices.
    By that logic, then I don't know for sure. There are many AMP girls on my visits that got that husky voice like Dr g / f from venture brothers. I go with the plumbing focus route, just because they have a lower voice box tone doesn't automatically makes them a tranny or ladyboiz. Very much with you with that mischaracterization with this stigma there buddy.

  7. #6293
    The Legend of Wooju
    Long ago, I tried to see Wooju who is now Skye K in OC. I like variety, and I don't mind a bit thick. I care about Vibe. But, she was off that day so I lost my appointment. It happens maybe 5% to 10% of the time, so have a backup plan in case. This was 2 years ago, andt hey gave me Naye instead. Naye gave me next level submissive service, it might not be for other guys but it was a perfect fit for me. At the time, Naye was still very new. Even better! Now, Naye has much more skills and she even leveled up her looks. Like a maid cafe girl.

    I don't know how Wooju / Skye is except from what other people who told me in private. When I do a search, these are the recent reviews I could find:
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...ye#post7663815
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7655906
    https://cakdolls.com/escort/Skye%20K/ Skye K

    I know people who liked her more in private, plus others who were at least were happy seeing her one time. The pattern I found was that they didn't mind a bit thick, they didn't mind tattoos, and they liked her Vibe. So Vibe is probably her strongest point since many people mentioned it. I got the impression that she was mature in a way that added to her Vibe. The people who liked her the most were reluctant to review because they knew they were minority opinion. It is a practical dilemma - they don't want to confuse or disappoint people with different taste. I'd try to see her myself, but there are other girls I already like and need to repeat first.

    I suppose if the right people like and see her, she'll stay OC. People have to pick girls by type, and the more a person's taste is in the minority the more they should review to help other people with that same taste. But accuracy is hard to convey. It's best done by listing pros and cons, Dealbrakers, and estimating who the girl is and isn't for. In that sense and for other reasons, Wooju is important for OC. People who liked Wooju tended to like FA Ms Angel too, who might be back to OC next week. A few more details on her in this thread:
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7669628 OC Lookalikes

    With the lookalike models, I hope I could convey Ms Angel's level of thickness so guys have a sense of where it is. Best I can do.

    I haven't seen Wooju myself, but several others mentioned this ad photo gives an idea of her Face. Pre-MILF, good Vibe.

    Someday, Thanos may start collecting the Infinity Stones again. Until then, we'll have to do it ourselves.
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...7&d=1782371216 Pre-MILF Thanos
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...8&d=1782371216 HYA Hunter Thanos

    Improves on Repeats
    Vibe Hunters tend to be HYA Hunters. They tend to unlock even better service on 2nd visits through compatibility. They do it through the Lizza guide through good hygene, good manners, good foreplay. Start slow and work your way up, watch the girl's reactions and see what they like.
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7602094 The Lizza Guide (middle of post)

    Some HYA really look forward to it. Rayne is a good example. Other girls truly unlock on repeats, but I noticed opinions are very divided. I felt it was true for Subin, Ms Angel, and Danbi for example. Asuka and Olivia as well, but they have hard appeal for full Spinner Hunters (I assume any Spinner Hunter would consider them unicorns).
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Skye K aka Wooju.jpg‎  

  8. #6292

    Roomates. Rosy and Baby Joe at SKparadise / 6 get9 gil

    I went on a business trip to orange county and had half the day free so saw Rosy and Baby Joe on the same day. My days of back to back are over so I spaced the sessions out over a span of a few hours.

    Skparadise.

    Get9 irl.

    Rosy: pretty with a banging body. Love her tits and that ass. All out high intensity sex energy. Either our mouths were on each other lips or on each others erotic zones. I was wiped out. I barely got 2 shots out of me and she persisted with CIM. Thank you Rosy!

    Ter: 407463.

    Baby Joe: I try to see her each time in Socal. She has improved so much even though she is relatively new to the scene. Spinners delight in my book. Love her ass that claps back in K9 and her tits with nice erect nipples. Great DT and oral skills with shaft and ball licking. Another non-stop energy bunny and she gets so wet during K9 and miss. Her big eyes as she looks at you during BBBJ and mish can't be missed. So much passion. She made me feel like her boyfriend. Sex with her feels so passionate and she really gets into it. Total pleaser. I really think she likes sex.

    TER: 416459.

    Enjoy.

  9. #6291

    Mila Get9

    I saw her in the Bay in a couple months ago. I'd recommend if you like stretching out low-mileage girls with slim physiques. If that's your jam, she's a good deal for 340 bb. Can find her at TER: 415270.

  10. #6290

    Amy V

    Quote Originally Posted by Vevor12  [View Original Post]
    Just curious how is that not clear on visual if she is one? Is the surgery that good now that the plumbing is that surreal?
    I think a lot of it had to do with the association of pretty Thai girl = possible ladyboy. Also, she had a relatively deep husky voice. But most people, like myself, dismiss this mischaracterization. Mainly because if you are in this business you would cover up that obvious trait by speaking in a higher pitch. Secondly, anyone who has been exposed to a bunch of girls will know that there are girls with naturally deep voice and vice versa guys with high pitched voices.

  11. #6289
    Quote Originally Posted by SoloAdventure  [View Original Post]
    Kgirls do not work out except the older ones because they're trying to keep up. I have yet to see a Kgirl with 20% or less bf. The best I've seen was the 21-23% range and that was Amy V. Ian was pretty close too but I couldn't get a good look to make sure it was legit, dark room, but I think it was. A lot of them have lipo abs.
    I wouldn't categorically make that statement. Amy V has had her ups and down with weight gain / loss. As for the recent past girls like Nali, Heaven K, Rainy, Evian (before her weight gain), Baby see you, Baby Eve, etc. Are easily fit with low body fat. Then you had past champs like Lyn, Flynn, Viet Tien, Hana, and others that had that physique. One that really left an impression for me for Sunlight (at leaast I think that was her name). She was tall and shaped like a pro Volleyball player.

  12. #6288
    Quote Originally Posted by Goku17  [View Original Post]
    After analyzing again, you are correct. I attached a body fat chart for comparison. I didn't realize body fat percentage on a woman is different than a man. Looking at the chart, Angela is in the 25-27% body fat range I would estimate, her stomach isnt flat. I like them 20% and under, there have been many girls with abs over the years. I was thinking 10% as a man's body fat standard. Well, I learned something after 15+ years of being athletic.

    I actually never went to go see her because of the tranny talk in her early years lol. I did want to see her later on after confirmed not to be a tranny, but I didnt like how you guys said she makes us take showers solo, I enjoy the shower part. I personally clean the girl's ass and pussy myself every time.
    Kgirls do not work out except the older ones because they're trying to keep up. I have yet to see a Kgirl with 20% or less bf. The best I've seen was the 21-23% range and that was Amy V. Ian was pretty close too but I couldn't get a good look to make sure it was legit, dark room, but I think it was. A lot of them have lipo abs.

  13. #6287
    Quote Originally Posted by IAmIronman  [View Original Post]
    Damn WTF no way. She was one of my favorites also. Regret not getting her sooner I just started seeing her late last year. Only reason I didn't was cause of the whole she could be a tranny shit that was getting posted in here a while back ago.
    She was hot and one of the best experiences I have had, I been wanting to see her again. She was hot like her pics and DTF.

    Some girls say they retired and come right back for more fun.

  14. #6286
    Quote Originally Posted by IAmIronman  [View Original Post]
    Damn WTF no way. She was one of my favorites also. Regret not getting her sooner I just started seeing her late last year. Only reason I didn't was cause of the whole she could be a tranny shit that was getting posted in here a while back ago.
    Just curious how is that not clear on visual if she is one? Is the surgery that good now that the plumbing is that surreal?

  15. #6285
    Quote Originally Posted by IAmIronman  [View Original Post]
    Damn WTF no way. She was one of my favorites also. Regret not getting her sooner I just started seeing her late last year. Only reason I didn't was cause of the whole she could be a tranny shit that was getting posted in here a while back ago.
    I might have completed missed this drama otherwise I would not have seen her either.

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