Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

[JMirage]

Just got back from Japan and I always hate coming back and realizing the shitty service we get for high prices.

In Japan I get charged higher than the locals as a foreigner, but even at that, my last experience before I left was $55 for a cute 22 yo to give me a BBBJ for 45 minutes. She chats with me, brings me tea and cookies. Asks if she can please start sucking on my, and gives a genuine thank you when I say yes. Take off my pants and boxers and she cleans me up, and she says please when you cum, cum in my mouth. Again, she thanks me, and tells me to instruct me if I want it faster, slower, harder, and what I want her to do with my balls. I do, and she is non-stop for 40 minutes, no speeding up like they do here to try and get you to cum as quick as possible half the time. I bust my nut, and she slows WAY down, the best CIM I have had, she knew exactly how to suck it so the sensitivity didn't get to me. Thanks me profusely for the cum and cumming in her mouth. Goes and spits and mouth washes, comes back and let me know I have 5 more minutes and wanted to know if I wanted to talk, leave, or could she suck me for the last 5 minutes. Thanks me again so much for letting her suck me for the last 5 minutes and hoped to see me again. All of her thanking was believable as any other business thanking me for patronage. All this for $55.

Every single bit of service I got over there did not disappoint from any perspective. There were many different type, but those pink bars were something else! $25 for a 20min BJ from a clean hotty that gets nekkid... Funny that some reviews say they have old girls at some of the places and their idea of old was like 30 lol.

Now I get to come back to the land where they'll try and get more out of you when you offer $60 tip for a bad HE.

It almost makes me want set aside my play money when I'm planning on going out for service, just rubbing one out myself, then taking that to cover flights / service abroad every so often. I'd probably be money ahead and get a vacation, even though I know I never will.

[Morgan Creamin]

Anyone else having issues searching on here? Looking for names I know have been discussed and getting zero results.

[Potent]

It's the 30th. It used to be the deal day. The day where most workers couldn't come up with their rents so they'd do whatever days. Days you'd get texts like "ok fine 150 works too".

Now go check all the sites. Barely any posts. No one answers nothing. It's a ghost town. What happened? What went wrong? What happened to our values!?

[Jimmysixxx7]

It blows my mind how many former providers become super religious when they get their shit together. Like they didn't like religion at all before but now it's all Jesus this and Jesus that. They are still beholden to something. It's like religion becomes their new addiction and they judge others for not believing. These are people I've blown at least 20 loads into, many of them more. I'm grateful they improved their lives but they still can't seem to think for themselves. I always thought stopping providing and dealing with their addictions would be freeing. Yet they choose a path that is pre thought out.

[Meorme]

I have a hypothetical story about another idiot. He brings fake money in an envelope and briefly shows it and puts it back in. Then he tries to rush the woman so that she'll forget to check the envelope before the session.

I swear some of these broke men should just buy a $12 pocket pussy (I might even consider starting a charity for giving out free pocket pussy if these guys promise to leave these women alone) and fuck it all day to solve their horniness instead of ruining lives of these women who just want to make a buck and buy a house or support their family.

I don't think too many of these guys have really thunked ahead about how easy it would be for a shop to have security, on call, with a 1 hour response time, walking into the room before they have a chance to get dressed.

[Manager9]

Assume this is a completely hypothetical situation involving multiple local massage stores that are reviewed in this thread, Everett, and FedWay massage stores threads.

Let's assume you stay in touch with at least a dozen or so store managers in the area, mostly socially, but sometimes professionally. Assume these multiple owners have their own private discussion channels, and lately one problematic customer has become the topic of their recent discussions to the point that many of these owners contact you to complain about him and ask for advice. Assume he's a Chinese guy in his 30's who has 12 posts here. Again, this is all hypothetical, of course.

Assume this hypothetical Chinese customer has been visiting stores along the I5 corridor over the past few months. Let's also assume that he makes appointments at these stores, shows up, pays the minimim 30 minute house fee, gets his massage, and then starts insisting on extended services without tipping. Assume some of these services are ones that the girls make clear to him are not on offer and when they inform him of this he gets verbally pushy and tells them that instead of a tip, he'll write them a review on USAG, where apparently he's a "big deal. " And if they refuse, he'll write them a bad review.

Assume that some of these girls, afraid of scaring off a customer and angering the manager, agree to his "offer" and give him a finish normally reserved for tipping customers. Then assume after he leaves, he starts messaging the owners / managers in Chinese, both on WeChat and text, to tell them how valuable his USAG reviews are, and then offers to the owner that he will write additional reviews on USAG in the future for $20 per post. Assume you've seen screen captures of this language from multiple owners across multiple stores.

Hypothetically speaking, what would you think of the aforementioned hypothetical customer and what, if anything, would you do about it? Sorry if this belongs in Rants and Raves, but because this dealt directly with shops reviewed in the massage sections, I decided to post it in one of the massage sections. Where hypothetically the hypothetical customer could hypothetically see it and hypothetically realize that maybe selling USAG reviews is not the right move.

Hypothetically, of course.

I have a hypothetical story about another idiot. He brings fake money in an envelope and briefly shows it and puts it back in. Then he tries to rush the woman so that she'll forget to check the envelope before the session.

I swear some of these broke men should just buy a $12 pocket pussy (I might even consider starting a charity for giving out free pocket pussy if these guys promise to leave these women alone) and fuck it all day to solve their horniness instead of ruining lives of these women who just want to make a buck and buy a house or support their family.

[Meorme]

A security cam photo of his face goes on the wall and door like at the SBBBJ shops and add him to the blacklist of scum they have (or should have if they don't).

Twice in the last month (at different shops) I was waiting in one of the rooms and could overhear some "discussion" in the adjacent room, offering a certain amount for "10 minutes".

I don't get it. 10 Minutes? TF? For like, half the price I'd hand them for an hour, without any discussion. And it'd go back and forth a couple times with some explicit questions. I think both time a distraction appeared and I didn't catch what conslusions they came to, if any.

Sad to see the kinda stupid shit they have to put up with sometimes, and easy to see why I'm treated so nicely for just being reasonable with them.

[StuntDriver]

Hypothetically we should kick his ass! We should fight fire with fire. What if his picture ended up on USAG and his behavior and we all condemn it?

Pics and doxxing are against the rules here, and for good reason. I'm not even mentioning his username. I'm hoping seeing this is enough to convince him to chill. Hypothetically.

Just tip the girls, dude. Some of the stores no longer accept Chinese clients because of these types of issues.

[MaybeThisTime]

A security cam photo of his face goes on the wall and door like at the SBBBJ shops and add him to the blacklist of scum they have (or should have if they don't).

Assume this is a completely hypothetical situation involving multiple local massage stores that are reviewed in this thread, Everett, and FedWay massage stores threads.

Let's assume you stay in touch with at least a dozen or so store managers in the area, mostly socially, but sometimes professionally. Assume these multiple owners have their own private discussion channels, and lately one problematic customer has become the topic of their recent discussions to the point that many of these owners contact you to complain about him and ask for advice. Assume he's a Chinese guy in his 30's who has 12 posts here. Again, this is all hypothetical, of course.

Assume this hypothetical Chinese customer has been visiting stores along the I5 corridor over the past few months. Let's also assume that he makes appointments at these stores, shows up, pays the minimim 30 minute house fee, gets his massage, and then starts insisting on extended services without tipping. Assume some of these services are ones that the girls make clear to him are not on offer and when they inform him of this he gets verbally pushy and tells them that instead of a tip, he'll write them a review on USAG, where apparently he's a "big deal. " And if they refuse, he'll write them a bad review.

Assume that some of these girls, afraid of scaring off a customer and angering the manager, agree to his "offer" and give him a finish normally reserved for tipping customers. Then assume after he leaves, he starts messaging the owners / managers in Chinese, both on WeChat and text, to tell them how valuable his USAG reviews are, and then offers to the owner that he will write additional reviews on USAG in the future for $20 per post. Assume you've seen screen captures of this language from multiple owners across multiple stores.

Hypothetically speaking, what would you think of the aforementioned hypothetical customer and what, if anything, would you do about it? Sorry if this belongs in Rants and Raves, but because this dealt directly with shops reviewed in the massage sections, I decided to post it in one of the massage sections. Where hypothetically the hypothetical customer could hypothetically see it and hypothetically realize that maybe selling USAG reviews is not the right move.

Hypothetically, of course.

[CuriousCurt]

Well that hypothetically explains the hypothetical picture of a 30's-ish Chinese guy that was hypothetically posted at an MP that I hypothetically visited recently. Pretty sure that the MPs are already policing this guy. Hypothetically speaking of course.

Assume this is a completely hypothetical situation involving multiple local massage stores that are reviewed in this thread, Everett, and FedWay massage stores threads.

Let's assume you stay in touch with at least a dozen or so store managers in the area, mostly socially, but sometimes professionally. Assume these multiple owners have their own private discussion channels, and lately one problematic customer has become the topic of their recent discussions to the point that many of these owners contact you to complain about him and ask for advice. Assume he's a Chinese guy in his 30's who has 12 posts here. Again, this is all hypothetical, of course.

Assume this hypothetical Chinese customer has been visiting stores along the I5 corridor over the past few months. Let's also assume that he makes appointments at these stores, shows up, pays the minimim 30 minute house fee, gets his massage, and then starts insisting on extended services without tipping. Assume some of these services are ones that the girls make clear to him are not on offer and when they inform him of this he gets verbally pushy and tells them that instead of a tip, he'll write them a review on USAG, where apparently he's a "big deal. " And if they refuse, he'll write them a bad review..

[Tasman63]

Assume this is a completely hypothetical situation involving multiple local massage stores that are reviewed in this thread, Everett, and FedWay massage stores threads.

Let's assume you stay in touch with at least a dozen or so store managers in the area, mostly socially, but sometimes professionally. Assume these multiple owners have their own private discussion channels, and lately one problematic customer has become the topic of their recent discussions to the point that many of these owners contact you to complain about him and ask for advice. Assume he's a Chinese guy in his 30's who has 12 posts here. Again, this is all hypothetical, of course.

Assume this hypothetical Chinese customer has been visiting stores along the I5 corridor over the past few months. Let's also assume that he makes appointments at these stores, shows up, pays the minimim 30 minute house fee, gets his massage, and then starts insisting on extended services without tipping. Assume some of these services are ones that the girls make clear to him are not on offer and when they inform him of this he gets verbally pushy and tells them that instead of a tip, he'll write them a review on USAG, where apparently he's a "big deal. " And if they refuse, he'll write them a bad review.

Assume that some of these girls, afraid of scaring off a customer and angering the manager, agree to his "offer" and give him a finish normally reserved for tipping customers. Then assume after he leaves, he starts messaging the owners / managers in Chinese, both on WeChat and text, to tell them how valuable his USAG reviews are, and then offers to the owner that he will write additional reviews on USAG in the future for $20 per post. Assume you've seen screen captures of this language from multiple owners across multiple stores.

Hypothetically speaking, what would you think of the aforementioned hypothetical customer and what, if anything, would you do about it? Sorry if this belongs in Rants and Raves, but because this dealt directly with shops reviewed in the massage sections, I decided to post it in one of the massage sections. Where hypothetically the hypothetical customer could hypothetically see it and hypothetically realize that maybe selling USAG reviews is not the right move.

Hypothetically, of course.

Hypothetically we should kick his ass! We should fight fire with fire. What if his picture ended up on USAG and his behavior and we all condemn it?

[KrDoggy-shill]

Hypothetically of course. Selling reviews is for fuckwits.

Assume this is a completely hypothetical situation involving multiple local massage stores that are reviewed in this thread, Everett, and FedWay massage stores threads.

Let's assume you stay in touch with at least a dozen or so store managers in the area, mostly socially, but sometimes professionally. Assume these multiple owners have their own private discussion channels, and lately one problematic customer has become the topic of their recent discussions to the point that many of these owners contact you to complain about him and ask for advice. Assume he's a Chinese guy in his 30's who has 12 posts here. Again, this is all hypothetical, of course.

Assume this hypothetical Chinese customer has been visiting stores along the I5 corridor over the past few months. Let's also assume that he makes appointments at these stores, shows up, pays the minimim 30 minute house fee, gets his massage, and then starts insisting on extended services without tipping. Assume some of these services are ones that the girls make clear to him are not on offer and when they inform him of this he gets verbally pushy and tells them that instead of a tip, he'll write them a review on USAG, where apparently he's a "big deal. " And if they refuse, he'll write them a bad review.

Assume that some of these girls, afraid of scaring off a customer and angering the manager, agree to his "offer" and give him a finish normally reserved for tipping customers. Then assume after he leaves, he starts messaging the owners / managers in Chinese, both on WeChat and text, to tell them how valuable his USAG reviews are, and then offers to the owner that he will write additional reviews on USAG in the future for $20 per post. Assume you've seen screen captures of this language from multiple owners across multiple stores.

Hypothetically speaking, what would you think of the aforementioned hypothetical customer and what, if anything, would you do about it? Sorry if this belongs in Rants and Raves, but because this dealt directly with shops reviewed in the massage sections, I decided to post it in one of the massage sections. Where hypothetically the hypothetical customer could hypothetically see it and hypothetically realize that maybe selling USAG reviews is not the right move.

Hypothetically, of course.

[StuntDriver]

Assume this is a completely hypothetical situation involving multiple local massage stores that are reviewed in this thread, Everett, and FedWay massage stores threads.

Let's assume you stay in touch with at least a dozen or so store managers in the area, mostly socially, but sometimes professionally. Assume these multiple owners have their own private discussion channels, and lately one problematic customer has become the topic of their recent discussions to the point that many of these owners contact you to complain about him and ask for advice. Assume he's a Chinese guy in his 30's who has 12 posts here. Again, this is all hypothetical, of course.

Assume this hypothetical Chinese customer has been visiting stores along the I5 corridor over the past few months. Let's also assume that he makes appointments at these stores, shows up, pays the minimim 30 minute house fee, gets his massage, and then starts insisting on extended services without tipping. Assume some of these services are ones that the girls make clear to him are not on offer and when they inform him of this he gets verbally pushy and tells them that instead of a tip, he'll write them a review on USAG, where apparently he's a "big deal. " And if they refuse, he'll write them a bad review.

Assume that some of these girls, afraid of scaring off a customer and angering the manager, agree to his "offer" and give him a finish normally reserved for tipping customers. Then assume after he leaves, he starts messaging the owners / managers in Chinese, both on WeChat and text, to tell them how valuable his USAG reviews are, and then offers to the owner that he will write additional reviews on USAG in the future for $20 per post. Assume you've seen screen captures of this language from multiple owners across multiple stores.

Hypothetically speaking, what would you think of the aforementioned hypothetical customer and what, if anything, would you do about it? Sorry if this belongs in Rants and Raves, but because this dealt directly with shops reviewed in the massage sections, I decided to post it in one of the massage sections. Where hypothetically the hypothetical customer could hypothetically see it and hypothetically realize that maybe selling USAG reviews is not the right move.

Hypothetically, of course.

[BaryMcCochener]

This is the one thing I can't figure out. Everytime I've been to an AMP, 90% of the time I have been the only customer. I would never see any other cars and all the rooms would be open. And during my entire session, I wouldn't hear a single soul come in. There would also be anywhere from 2 - 4 girls greeting me too. I've visited AMPs about 40 times total from 2022 - present. So my question is this, how the hell do these AMPs turn a profit? Just from my sample size, they do not seem to be pulling in alot of demand to justify so many popping up? I'm wondering if there's some other additional income source? Maybe they do outcalls on the side?

Also, another random musing. But how come we see very few indian woman sex workers or indian female massage parlors? Indians and Chinese are both 5 million in total pop of the US. So we have a lot of Chinese woman in AMPs, but I don't think I've ever seen a indian SW in america.

Vancouver BC has a solid percentage of EI SPs and they all speak perfect English. Perhaps that could be a factor? Also, the 'legality' of the industry probably plays a significant role.

[MakerMusktf]

3. I think a lot more guys are doing this now than were twenty five years ago. Probably by a factor of five or ten. Three reasons: there are an insanely large number of massage parlors compared to years past; prices sometimes seem absurdly and consistently high (especially for indy escorts); and population changes, mainly a lot of younger guys who can't seem to get laid in the dating world (again for a lot of complicated and fucked up reasons).

This is the one thing I can't figure out. Everytime I've been to an AMP, 90% of the time I have been the only customer. I would never see any other cars and all the rooms would be open. And during my entire session, I wouldn't hear a single soul come in. There would also be anywhere from 2 - 4 girls greeting me too. I've visited AMPs about 40 times total from 2022 - present. So my question is this, how the hell do these AMPs turn a profit? Just from my sample size, they do not seem to be pulling in alot of demand to justify so many popping up? I'm wondering if there's some other additional income source? Maybe they do outcalls on the side?

Also, another random musing. But how come we see very few indian woman sex workers or indian female massage parlors? Indians and Chinese are both 5 million in total pop of the US. So we have a lot of Chinese woman in AMPs, but I don't think I've ever seen a indian SW in america.