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[Grail47]

LOL It's LA county. For me it'd be about a 70 min drive since I'm in NELA. But I'm good. Try to keep my girls closer nowadays.

For real! The one time I made an exception and drive to San Bernardino to meet an SB, I regretted it later for many reasons beyond just the awful traffic there and back!

[Lexx1]

Geez, I had to Google where the F this place is and it's a 90 minute drive away from LA city proper. I wouldn't even consider it in the city limits of LA!

LOL It's LA county. For me it'd be about a 70 min drive since I'm in NELA. But I'm good. Try to keep my girls closer nowadays.

[Grail47]

Hey everyone, new fun SLN girl in Quartz Hill, her name is Emily and she is 19. So she says she is not into anal or rough play, but she did like the sound of being f*cked in doggy with her ass spanked and her hair pulled, and she certainly has the perfect ass for that. She also likes affection and soft kisses. She likes giving head, but doesn't like to swallow and would rather have her face blasted. She doesn't like girls but liked the idea of a girl licking her pussy while she was being f*cked. She has also never done MFM but might be into it. BBFS is ok with recent testing. She is asking for a mid to high PPM allowance, but possibly able to get lower.

https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/petitefantacy/

Giving free membership time today for the first 10 to sign up and PM me their username.

Geez, I had to Google where the F this place is and it's a 90 minute drive away from LA city proper. I wouldn't even consider it in the city limits of LA!

[SugarLifeNow]

Hey everyone, new fun SLN girl in Quartz Hill, her name is Emily and she is 19. So she says she is not into anal or rough play, but she did like the sound of being f*cked in doggy with her ass spanked and her hair pulled, and she certainly has the perfect ass for that. She also likes affection and soft kisses. She likes giving head, but doesn't like to swallow and would rather have her face blasted. She doesn't like girls but liked the idea of a girl licking her pussy while she was being f*cked. She has also never done MFM but might be into it. BBFS is ok with recent testing. She is asking for a mid to high PPM allowance, but possibly able to get lower.

https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/petitefantacy/

Giving free membership time today for the first 10 to sign up and PM me their username.

[Lexx1]

If I recall, I think you can read responses from Lexx below regarding that SB site and how it's a waste of time. Also, I read SB threads here all around the country and from what I gather, it's full of bots and automated messages that force you to pay to respond. I hate that it seems to nickel and dime you just to message back and forth. SDM is so much in this regard with a flat sub fee that allows you message who you want to, whenever.

Yup. I've tried Secret Benefits and sugardaddy.com. They're basically the same site. Same buy credits method and the same girls on both sites. Just a different site entry point. There's also a third called Luxury Date, which I haven't tried. But a reddit review says it's also the same as Secret Benefits. I tried Sugardaddy.com once after Secret Benefits. And noticed it operated the same as SB and the same girls. Secret Benefits I had given a second try and same bad experience as the first time. Just burning through credits and maybe a girl responds once and you never hear from her again. Not ever going back to a site that uses credits to communicate. Even though I don't use SA anymore as pricy as it is and no longer a true sugar site. I'd rather recommend that because you get unlimited messaging to as many girls as possible. Which in the long run would probably be cheaper still than constantly buying credits that go to waste.

[Grail47]

What about secretbenefits? I read different things about it. Some areas, guys rave. In others, they are certain it is a scam, w / fake profiles, and getting messages from the site that girls claim not to have sent. And then I am having an impossible time paying for membership with a prepaid debit card. I was told by the payment processor this was because I had a protonmail email address, and if I switched to a more 'normal' address, it might work.

If I recall, I think you can read responses from Lexx below regarding that SB site and how it's a waste of time. Also, I read SB threads here all around the country and from what I gather, it's full of bots and automated messages that force you to pay to respond. I hate that it seems to nickel and dime you just to message back and forth. SDM is so much in this regard with a flat sub fee that allows you message who you want to, whenever.

[FarFarAway]

Hmmm, I'm intrigued to explore Sugarbook, although SDM is still a mostly winning site for me. Thanks for the heads up!

What about secretbenefits? I read different things about it. Some areas, guys rave. In others, they are certain it is a scam, w / fake profiles, and getting messages from the site that girls claim not to have sent. And then I am having an impossible time paying for membership with a prepaid debit card. I was told by the payment processor this was because I had a protonmail email address, and if I switched to a more 'normal' address, it might work.

[Lexx1]

Hmmm, I'm intrigued to explore Sugarbook, although SDM is still a mostly winning site for me. Thanks for the heads up!

SDM for me too man. I gave Sugarbook a try. Got a couple girls but took time. They have a weekly sub available but monthly is a better value. Site was just to slow for me at the end so I didn't re-sub. But worth a quick look.

[Grail47]

What have I been saying? You SA guys sure are gluttons for punishment for staying and returning to that site. Good luck with the larger sample size. You may want to look into Sugarbook as an alternative. It functions pretty close to what Seeking was when it was still Seeking Arrangement. It has the PPM, Allowances, Friends with benefits, etc bubbles on profiles and some I don't think I remember on SA like DTF. Monthly sub is close to SAs old price under a 100. Works better under desktop view than mobile view so better on a laptop than phone. Only thing that sucks is the site is slooooow and no real downloadble app.

Hmmm, I'm intrigued to explore Sugarbook, although SDM is still a mostly winning site for me. Thanks for the heads up!

[Midlifecrisis9]

Thanks alot, I actually went through that in detail after making my post. Wow so much to read! But I learned a lot.

Here's my summary of the "answers" to my questions, based on all that reading, and the other comments Lexx and Grail left. (thank you very much both of you).

Meet and Greet. Either video call or quick in person meeting (coffee / drink) is ok. Worse case, phone call. Preferably no meals.

Agreeing on payment. Some people like to figure it out ahead of time, some people delay discussion as long as possible; it's also best to know their limits sexually.

When to find out what they will do sexually. At the same time payment amount is agreed upon (if that discussion happens at all).

All right. It's probably time to dive into this soon, as you can only learn so much from forums. Now the question remains, SDM or Seeking. Hmmm I'll check them both out.

Don't forget this exists.

https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...-Index-and-FAQ

[Lexx1]

After reading the last 18 months of posts here, I still have a few "rookie" questions before I dive into this.

Assuming I'm trying to find a reasonably priced non-pro, pay per meetup.

- If they don't ask for a M&G, do you all prefer doing M&G or a video call? If a M&G, I assume just drink or coffee, not a meal, right? (I read some girls just want a free meal).

- When is the best time to bring up the "payment", do you always wait for them to bring it up? How does one negotiate a lower rate, just ask them what they want and counter?

- how & when do you bring up when they will do in bed? (BB, CIM, BBBJ).

Thanks so much in advance!

First you brought up the term non-pro which I preferred for many years instead of a full blown sugarbaby. I still do. And to clarify simply what a non-pro is. A starter casual sugarbaby. You made an arrangement with a non-pro just like a sugarbaby. But non-pros usually aren't found directly on sugar sites. Once they join a sugar site they are now sugarbabies. Non-pros were mainly found through the personals section through Craigslist. But the personals section doesn't exist anymore since 2018. Shutdown because of the FOSTA-SESTA bill. Now having cleared that up. Let's proceed.

As Grail mentioned if they don't press for a M&G. Then a video call is ok. I've rarely done M&G. If it's a simple M&G then ok. But some girls are looking for free dinners. I usually like to negotiate everything before actually meeting up. And the meet up is either getting straight to bed fun or sometimes car fun.

Payment is dynamic between you and her. And it ties to your third question. You need to clarify what you're looking for sexually. So there's no surprises when you get to bed. And you can make your offer based on what she's open to and her looks. Some girls may throw a number at you right away and it's usually high. Sometimes without even knowing what you want. That's not how it works. For me when they throw a number right away. It usually means they're experienced or taught by experienced sugarbabies and I usually try and stay away from those. I prefer fresh sugarbabies. It's up to you if you want to continue with that experienced baby and negotiate.

Back to your initial offer. She may accept or not. If there's certain things she won't do. It's up to you if you want to compromise. Or maybe offer a little more to see if she will. Some girls will keep saying no. No matter how much you offer. Then you can try lowering your offer if she's not open to certain things. But be careful here because you may lose her. One thing I can compromise on is CIP. It's not a deal breaker for me. But it does have to be bare, no rubbers. Same for head, bare. All bare. CIP is probably the touchiest request. But you can't force or expect every girl to do it. If you're a hard ass on that request. Then you can just pass. That's why I like a girl to be able to do CIM at the very least. If I can't CIP then I can CIM. And alot of girls offer that and some swallow. Not all on the CIM but alot as an alternate choice. And then there are girls that are open to anal and some that love it. Then you have another alternate for CIP, CIA which most girls will do if open to anal. Because it won't get them pregnant. The point for me being if I'm paying for it. I want to be able to cum inside you somewhere. If I wasn't directly paying for it. Like with a civie girl then you don't know what's going to happen in bed. She may or may not be open to certain things you like. And vice versa. You compromise more there or you get lucky and she's a freak in bed. So negotiations are a shifting dynamic.

[Grail47]

After reading the last 18 months of posts here, I still have a few "rookie" questions before I dive into this.

Assuming I'm trying to find a reasonably priced non-pro, pay per meetup.

- If they don't ask for a M&G, do you all prefer doing M&G or a video call? If a M&G, I assume just drink or coffee, not a meal, right? (I read some girls just want a free meal).

- When is the best time to bring up the "payment", do you always wait for them to bring it up? How does one negotiate a lower rate, just ask them what they want and counter?

- how & when do you bring up when they will do in bed? (BB, CIM, BBBJ).

Thanks so much in advance!

If the SB doesn't require a M&G, I do always offer a video call, or at the very least, a phone call, so we can each verify the other. Most SB's have been fine with a video call and it's during that call when we usually chat about the items. A recent SB that I've now met with in person preferred a phone call over Facetime, but it was still a good conversation and we made plans to meet up the next day, she came over to my place.

[FarFarAway]

Don't forget this exists.

https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...-Index-and-FAQ

[Midlifecrisis9]

After reading the last 18 months of posts here, I still have a few "rookie" questions before I dive into this.

Assuming I'm trying to find a reasonably priced non-pro, pay per meetup.

- If they don't ask for a M&G, do you all prefer doing M&G or a video call? If a M&G, I assume just drink or coffee, not a meal, right? (I read some girls just want a free meal).

- When is the best time to bring up the "payment", do you always wait for them to bring it up? How does one negotiate a lower rate, just ask them what they want and counter?

- how & when do you bring up when they will do in bed? (BB, CIM, BBBJ).

Thanks so much in advance!

[Lexx1]

And it kind of sucks.

All of the girls seem to want $800 or more and to add insult to injury, none of them are willing to get creampied. What is this madness?

I'm still freshly back at it so maybe my sample size isn't that large yet but I feel like the glory days of seeking are definitely behind it.

What have I been saying? You SA guys sure are gluttons for punishment for staying and returning to that site. Good luck with the larger sample size. You may want to look into Sugarbook as an alternative. It functions pretty close to what Seeking was when it was still Seeking Arrangement. It has the PPM, Allowances, Friends with benefits, etc bubbles on profiles and some I don't think I remember on SA like DTF. Monthly sub is close to SAs old price under a 100. Works better under desktop view than mobile view so better on a laptop than phone. Only thing that sucks is the site is slooooow and no real downloadble app.