I was hoping she was in a hotel in Dover. That wasn't the main issue. He was the issue. No cousin's. Just him. I forgot to mention that when I asked her about her other number. She told me it's her bfs account but also told me he smashed her phone. He's going to be a problem for anyone trying to see her. Glad I was able to smash when I did because I have a feeling I won't be seeing her again.
I did hit Elsa up about two months ago. Not long after I seen the ad that she was in Marydel. Chatted with her a few times. She gave me an address but I never tried to hookup. The last number I remember she had ended in four 0 six six. She changes numbers like the weather. I didn't have any problems the one time I seen her in Wilmington. Looks like things are different with her now.
I was hoping she was in a hotel in Dover. That wasn't the main issue. He was the issue. No cousin's. Just him. I forgot to mention that when I asked her about her other number. She told me it's her bfs account but also told me he smashed her phone. He's going to be a problem for anyone trying to see her. Glad I was able to smash when I did because I have a feeling I won't be seeing her again.
Let's see. Dude is banging on the window to control her date timing, he smashed her phone, he's involved in her dating?
Sounds like a case for the Task Force, no? Stopping a girl from being manipulated and forced to date is the whole point isn't it, rather than shutting down the AMPs? I guess they don't get any press out of the single dudes coercing girls, so they just ignore this stuff?
But a prime example why, when there is a dude involved in the situation, one should carefully consider the risks. Usually exceeds comfort level for this chair.
Appreciate AgedGeek's response and further insights as to his experiences. He has some good points. So once again, not looking to offend him, I'll use his post as a tool to provide some insight and methods others could use. Hope I don't offend and education overall is the intent.
I would like to say that although I was new to Jaydah, I've been in the lifestyle for more years than she's been out of Elementary School. I've had both great and horrible interactions. My experience with Jaydah, while not horrible, was definitely not what I've come to expect as the norm. We had been texting for a few minutes to set things up when she went silent for 30 minutes. One does not usually have to wait for the address after a date has been set.
Yeah sounds reasonable. Things like that either set off my Spidey Senses or make me roll my eyes over the way some operate. (hooker time).
Unless I have a special request, I've never had to explicitly detail what I wanted over text. In fact, explicit texting is usually discouraged and can be a deal breaker.
You are right! Many girls are wary of talking details before the date. For me that is a deal breaker. I'm not going to waste my time traveling to a girl, and finding out something key is not on the menu. Most guys I guess just fold and go ahead with things. I learned long ago to walk when things don't match or go south. I think those girls who won't talk details up front usually state such in their adverts. But also I have found I can ask politely what is out of bounds for a girl that usually doesn't offend. Oh yeah, on occasion there is a girl too inexperienced that rejects that convoy or the ones who 'blow up" on me for asking. I always figure that if they do either, I am happy as I'd rather have that happen than before meeting, not during. NEXT!
Also, I would think it is more dangerous for a dude to walk into a date, with money in hand and start talking about services. That sounds like a scenario for a set-up to me, get the dude to say things that make the encounter a crime. I mean if LE has the time and resources to Subpoena your phone for a misdemeanor crime, so be it. I don't take my phone into a massage with a new girl. Fwiw.
Dropping the money the moment you enter the room is a great way to get robbed. Believe me, I've had it happen!
I've had that happen too! So I know where you are coming from. So for me it comes down to technique at that point. A) Show you have the funds to pay for the massage. She grabs for it, could be a red flag. B) I offer to place the fee on a table, dresser of wherever that is away from the massage table and keep myself between the fee and the girl until she starts the massage. Usually, I have found that the rip-off artists are going to go for the funds right away, and setting it aside, they will go for it.
Also, she recently posted that you shouldn't start asking questions as soon as you get in the room. I didn't. After "Hi" I spoke only in response to her, so I don't know what that's about.
I'm guessing that, based on what your report, that there are two different dudes and you, being the one that posted here, got the flak. So the other dude was the chatty Cathy and got booted for it. Just shows what making assumptions can do.
All I'm saying here is that I did everything she asked me to do, and I still had my time and gas wasted. So I shared my experience, and here's the kicker; my post was accurate in every detail! I stand by it!
Yup, every provider has the absolute right to pick & choose clientele. Likewise, when I have a bad experience, I'm going to share it. I wish I was one of the guys who could report on her great attitude, but as it's always said, YMMV. Mine certainly did.
Again, sorry for your bad experience, wasted time and resources! But yes, not everyone is going to be a match and those YMMV experiences are important to have out in the open. All info, both + or. Is helpful to dudes who do a history search and evaluate what went on. So yes, anyone should share. Thanks for sharing. It gets 'strange" when all one sees are glowing reports.
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A2.
Not to step on A2's toes. Some clarification from my experience and open to corrections if needed. Seems like a few newbies could find this useful?
Yes, fighting is not permitted in the threads. Differences of opinion are normal, just DO NOT make it personal such that it comes off as an attack.
But A2 in their wisdom recognizes that boys will be boys and the occasional fight will break out, that is why they allow "Fight Threads" where one can attack others. Just don't be a douche and threaten physical violence or out anybody, nor violate any of the other rules around here. (I know, its a pain to read the rules. But it can save you from moderation / banishment).
The main "Fight Thread" for DE is the Delaware Douchebaggery! forum under the General Topics Section (user created, below blue line) Also Admin added a fight thread in the Wilmington Section called Rants and Stupid shit in Wilmington where one can fight with others. Again, follow the rules.
I'd prefer if we kept things civil and report different experiences, rather than assuming that someone else is wrong and needs to be "set straight". It's when you make assumptions and cast aspersions on others, making your post personal to the OP that things get testy. Keep that stuff out of the main threads and save it, (IF you must do it) for the Fight Threads.
I visited her house in Marydel twice: First visit was good. Her cousins were at home and she wanted me to wait in car till her cousins left the home. I waited in car for 20 minutes and her cousin girls left. For second visit, we started our session (again had to wait for cousins to leave) and suddenly her cousins (females) returned to home and knocked the door. They created scene and they shouted to her that they will be calling her mom and cops. She managed to convince them there was no one in her room and asked me to hide in her closet. So they never saw me, but they were aware someone was in the home. Somehow I managed to reach my car (which was parked couple of houses away) and left the place. What I noticed is she advised me to park the car couple of houses away for both visits. That means the other girls staying in her house don't want her to use the place for dates.
I don't want to visit her home again and risk myself. I noticed the house had ring door bells installed. So if her cousin girls wanted to monitor/capture pics of who is visiting the house, they can do that and call cops / friends etc and create a scene. Instead , I would wait for incall in a hotel room .
I was hoping she was in a hotel in Dover. That wasn't the main issue. He was the issue. No cousin's. Just him. I forgot to mention that when I asked her about her other number. She told me it's her bfs account but also told me he smashed her phone. He's going to be a problem for anyone trying to see her. Glad I was able to smash when I did because I have a feeling I won't be seeing her again.
Idk what her bf from two years ago looked like. This one was medium height. Maybe 5'7 or 5'8. Not a real big bro. Had braids that looked like they been in for a while. He wasn't dark skinned but not real light skinned either. I got a good look at him. When I was leaving. He was in the front yard. Then was standing on the side of the house as I was getting in my car. Im just happy I was able to slam her without any theater. I don't think I'll be seeing her again. Still haven't heard from her and probly won't. I didn't slam her hard. But i did lay it on her good.
I visited her house in Marydel twice: First visit was good. Her cousins were at home and she wanted me to wait in car till her cousins left the home. I waited in car for 20 minutes and her cousin girls left. For second visit, we started our session (again had to wait for cousins to leave) and suddenly her cousins (females) returned to home and knocked the door. They created scene and they shouted to her that they will be calling her mom and cops. She managed to convince them there was no one in her room and asked me to hide in her closet. So they never saw me, but they were aware someone was in the home. Somehow I managed to reach my car (which was parked couple of houses away) and left the place. What I noticed is she advised me to park the car couple of houses away for both visits. That means the other girls staying in her house don't want her to use the place for dates.
I don't want to visit her home again and risk myself. I noticed the house had ring door bells installed. So if her cousin girls wanted to monitor/capture pics of who is visiting the house, they can do that and call cops / friends etc and create a scene. Instead , I would wait for incall in a hotel room .
Elsa had a bf when I seen her. But he was cool. I didn't have any drama with him. But that was two years ago and she may have a different bf now. I was able to meet up with Jaydah earlier in the week. She was very friendly, talkative and made me feel very comfortable. Looks just like her pics. Nice little tight body. I didn't have far to go because I was up North that day. She was a good time from start to finish. And I most definitely will repeat. Even if I have to come from home. Her rates are the best out there.
Idk what her bf from two years ago looked like. This one was medium height. Maybe 5'7 or 5'8. Not a real big bro. Had braids that looked like they been in for a while. He wasn't dark skinned but not real light skinned either. I got a good look at him. When I was leaving. He was in the front yard. Then was standing on the side of the house as I was getting in my car. Im just happy I was able to slam her without any theater. I don't think I'll be seeing her again. Still haven't heard from her and probly won't. I didn't slam her hard. But i did lay it on her good.
Finally met Elsa. Been trying to hookup with her back when she was in Wilmington. But it was either no response or long response times in between comms. Thought she was in Dover which is what her ad says. She's in Marydel. That's where she's from. Gave me the address to a mobile home in a nice residential community. Met me at the door and took me to her bedroom. She is small and petite just like her pics. Her hair is different. Shorter and reddish. It was a hot time even with everything covered. Which I didn't have a problem with. Her BJ was good and the kitty was really wet tight and felt really good. I'm not a small guy. So I did go easy on her. Not wanting to hurt her. Back in my high school days I would slam them hard. Thinking they would like it. There are some that don't mind. But there are a lot of them that really don't get any pleasure out of that. So I've learned to hold back. Stayed in doggie. I blew in the bag really hard. She came all over her bed. The only issue I had is her bf started knocking on her bedroom window. We were done. But what if we weren't. Elsa has a really bubbly personality and was a good time. But I doubt I'll see her again if he's going to be around. I know she had a different number when I hit her up before. She told me it's his account. So if it's HIS account. Then that tells me its HIS phone. I'd like to see her again but not if he's around. It sux because she's a really fun and hot time. So if anyone gets with her. They'll have to deal with him. Smh. It only took me 45 min to get there so that wasn't bad. At first she told me her mom was there. She may have been there. But so was he. I'm still glad I got to meet her even though she wasn't in Dover like I hoped. But I figured i better get her because there may not be another chance. Especially with the bf in the mix. I have reached out to her just to see if i would hear from her. I ain't heard nothing. Haven't seen a recent ad posted by her either.
Elsa had a bf when I seen her. But he was cool. I didn't have any drama with him. But that was two years ago and she may have a different bf now. I was able to meet up with Jaydah earlier in the week. She was very friendly, talkative and made me feel very comfortable. Looks just like her pics. Nice little tight body. I didn't have far to go because I was up North that day. She was a good time from start to finish. And I most definitely will repeat. Even if I have to come from home. Her rates are the best out there.
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Thanks for the insight, Shampoo55. You're observations are well thought out and something to consider. I would like to say that although I was new to Jaydah, I've been in the lifestyle for more years than she's been out of Elementary School. I've had both great and horrible interactions. My experience with Jaydah, while not horrible, was definitely not what I've come to expect as the norm. We had been texting for a few minutes to set things up when she went silent for 30 minutes. One does not usually have to wait for the address after a date has been set. Unless I have a special request, I've never had to explicitly detail what I wanted over text. In fact, explicit texting is usually discouraged and can be a deal breaker. Dropping the money the moment you enter the room is a great way to get robbed. Believe me, I've had it happen! Also, she recently posted that you shouldn't start asking questions as soon as you get in the room. I didn't. After "Hi" I spoke only in response to her, so I don't know what that's about.
All I'm saying here is that I did everything she asked me to do, and I still had my time and gas wasted. So I shared my experience, and here's the kicker; my post was accurate in every detail! I stand by it!
Yup, every provider has the absolute right to pick & choose clientele. Likewise, when I have a bad experience, I'm going to share it. I wish I was one of the guys who could report on her great attitude, but as it's always said, YMMV. Mine certainly did.
Sorry for your less than stellar experience! It stinks when one is all keyed up and looking to cross the finish line and get mission aborted! Not sure if it's any consolation but it has happened to me several times too. Appreciate you sharing the experience, as, as you point out YMMV! So many of the "less than perfect' experiences never get posted, so it takes guts to stand up and report as you did. Especially with someone as reviewed and popular around here.
But the whole experience got me thinking and hope me sharing some thoughts doesn't offend!. I don't know what exactly is going on here, so all I can do is reckless speculation, fwiw. Please no offense intended. Just hope it helps someone out there.
First off I had to learn / remember any girl has the right to see whomever she wishes and reject anyone she choses. Just because she is escorting doesn't mean she's 'less than' nor that she's necessarily desperate and has to see anybody. Desperation is often what one finds with the street girl and drugs. If there is no indication that a girl is on drugs or has a habit, then likely she's NOT desperate.
So that said, IF a girl gets to choose who she sees, then one needs to be on their best behavior. So a girl who has been posted all over this forum is likely VERY popular and has lots of inquires. I wouldn't be surprised if she gets 50-100 texts / calls in a day, and if so, IF you wish to see her then one needs to find a way stand out from the pack, in a good way. Me thinks one does that by being polite and a gentleman.
Second, I never expect a girl to respond the instant I text her. She could be dating someone else, at a dentist appointment, getting her beauty rest or something else. These girls have lives too and aren't always sitting there waiting for a text from me. It happens to me all of the time, don't get a response for hours or the next day. That just tells me she is busy and perhaps something in my note put me to the back of the line as far as she is concerned. If I think that's the case, then I look to sharpen up my approach.
Now I'll say this, catching an attitude with these girls because she didn't respond fast enough doesn't get me anywhere. In fact, a few times I believe doing that got me blacklisted with her circle of friends. But it sure didn't lead to a successful date, or perhaps she added a "premium" to the meet up price, because of my attitude? So I have found a bit of patience is helpful too. In fact, I had my Doc write me a script so I could get a booster dose at the Pharmacy!
I am interested to see a girl have you park in front of one unit and come to her in another unit. (doing that is IMHO kind counter to the rules, fwiw) That suggests to me she is being careful and from that perhaps her spidey senses are tingling to start with. I see nothing wrong with her approach from that perspective. She's being safe. Perhaps she has a room with a roommate and uses the other room for meetings? Is it irritating- Sure. Is it necessarily a red flag, don't think so. Again, if I let these things get to me and that effects the way I approach the girl, then that can work against me.
One thing I have learned with time is to get an understanding of the menu UPFRONT. If I were traveling 10-minutes and it wasn't a big expenditure of time if things go south, then maybe not so detailed. But if I was traveling a far piece, I'd want to make sure we were on the same page before heading out. Showing up as an unknown and then wanting to talk about menu puts me very close to an illegal act. Talking money and sex. So if the menu is clear before hand, no need for discussions. Also, IF something I desire is not on her menu, then I get to decide if that is fatal to meeting, or whether I am flexible to let one thing go. IF a girl has been clear in her posts as to the donation for her time / massage / companionship, then there is no need for in person discussion.
I agree with what Paul said about money on meeting. Girls are always wary of guys who play and dip. So to put them at ease, I make sure I show them I have the money for the massage within a min or two of meeting. One can place it on a counter, dresser or night stand away from the massage table, but her seeing it and being able to tell it's real and the correct amount puts her at ease. I have found that leads to a better massage experience.
But from what was reported sounds like she does have some form of security around. Which is a good thing. I'm always supportive of girls being safe!
Also, how one presents themself I have found can be important. Who would a girl rather see? A dude who shows up with shirt and pants he's had on for days, is disheveled, has body odor, bad breath OR the dude who is freshly showered, clean clothes, nice cologne, brushed teeth with minty fresh breath? (not saying this is OP, just general comment from girls' perspective).
Finally, in this hobby we are dealing with people and it took me a while to understand that not everyone is going to hit it off or be compatible, no matter what the needs are on each side. I have found no amount of money can change attitudes on some things. So I plan for that each time I see someone new. I always have some 'no thank you' money set aside. So in a case where a girl has to go help her Dad, I'd toss her a Jackson and politely excuse myself. Yeah, I don't like giving away money, but doing that is a great gesture of goodwill and perhaps will soften her stance and the next time she'll be willing to see me?
I dunno, all of the above is just general advice & observations. Again, likely none of it applies to OP, but it is often helpful to review some of the things that go on so we can adjust our approach and have happy outcomes.
Just some thoughts and hopefully they are helpful to some one out there?
Sorry again for the experience. Appreciate the heads up!
Finally met Elsa. Been trying to hookup with her back when she was in Wilmington. But it was either no response or long response times in between comms. Thought she was in Dover which is what her ad says. She's in Marydel. That's where she's from. Gave me the address to a mobile home in a nice residential community. Met me at the door and took me to her bedroom. She is small and petite just like her pics. Her hair is different. Shorter and reddish. It was a hot time even with everything covered. Which I didn't have a problem with. Her BJ was good and the kitty was really wet tight and felt really good. I'm not a small guy. So I did go easy on her. Not wanting to hurt her. Back in my high school days I would slam them hard. Thinking they would like it. There are some that don't mind. But there are a lot of them that really don't get any pleasure out of that. So I've learned to hold back. Stayed in doggie. I blew in the bag really hard. She came all over her bed. The only issue I had is her bf started knocking on her bedroom window. We were done. But what if we weren't. Elsa has a really bubbly personality and was a good time. But I doubt I'll see her again if he's going to be around. I know she had a different number when I hit her up before. She told me it's his account. So if it's HIS account. Then that tells me its HIS phone. I'd like to see her again but not if he's around. It sux because she's a really fun and hot time. So if anyone gets with her. They'll have to deal with him. Smh. It only took me 45 min to get there so that wasn't bad. At first she told me her mom was there. She may have been there. But so was he. I'm still glad I got to meet her even though she wasn't in Dover like I hoped. But I figured i better get her because there may not be another chance. Especially with the bf in the mix. I have reached out to her just to see if i would hear from her. I ain't heard nothing. Haven't seen a recent ad posted by her either.
Well said and on point. His first mistake was not talking about what he wanted ahead of time. Once he was in the room is not the time to talk about what he expects. His second mistake was not showing the money at all once he was in the room. Smh. You aint smashing no booty until you show the looty. Common knowledge. Even at my young age. It leaves the impression that he was trying to pull a fast one by not showing the loot. Whether that was the case or not. Most ladies are not going to waste a lot of time talking about anything if they ain't seen the loot yet. And your right that she has the right and the choice to turn down anyone she's not comfortable with. She doesn't have to see every single guy who hits her up. Trust me. I know. She's doing well.
From a recent post/advert by Jaydah:
Please make sure you make it known what you like when contacting me. And if your fortunate enough to meet me. Dont come in my room and start talking and asking a bunch of questions. Especially if you havent shown the donation guys. Thats a no go and it will get you kicked out. I value my time. But I value my safety even more.
Sorry for your less than stellar experience! It stinks when one is all keyed up and looking to cross the finish line and get mission aborted! Not sure if it's any consolation but it has happened to me several times too. Appreciate you sharing the experience, as, as you point out YMMV! So many of the "less than perfect' experiences never get posted, so it takes guts to stand up and report as you did. Especially with someone as reviewed and popular around here.
But the whole experience got me thinking and hope me sharing some thoughts doesn't offend!. I don't know what exactly is going on here, so all I can do is reckless speculation, fwiw. Please no offense intended. Just hope it helps someone out there.
First off I had to learn / remember any girl has the right to see whomever she wishes and reject anyone she choses. Just because she is escorting doesn't mean she's 'less than' nor that she's necessarily desperate and has to see anybody. Desperation is often what one finds with the street girl and drugs. If there is no indication that a girl is on drugs or has a habit, then likely she's NOT desperate.
So that said, IF a girl gets to choose who she sees, then one needs to be on their best behavior. So a girl who has been posted all over this forum is likely VERY popular and has lots of inquires. I wouldn't be surprised if she gets 50-100 texts / calls in a day, and if so, IF you wish to see her then one needs to find a way stand out from the pack, in a good way. Me thinks one does that by being polite and a gentleman.
Second, I never expect a girl to respond the instant I text her. She could be dating someone else, at a dentist appointment, getting her beauty rest or something else. These girls have lives too and aren't always sitting there waiting for a text from me. It happens to me all of the time, don't get a response for hours or the next day. That just tells me she is busy and perhaps something in my note put me to the back of the line as far as she is concerned. If I think that's the case, then I look to sharpen up my approach.
Now I'll say this, catching an attitude with these girls because she didn't respond fast enough doesn't get me anywhere. In fact, a few times I believe doing that got me blacklisted with her circle of friends. But it sure didn't lead to a successful date, or perhaps she added a "premium" to the meet up price, because of my attitude? So I have found a bit of patience is helpful too. In fact, I had my Doc write me a script so I could get a booster dose at the Pharmacy!
I am interested to see a girl have you park in front of one unit and come to her in another unit. (doing that is IMHO kind counter to the rules, fwiw) That suggests to me she is being careful and from that perhaps her spidey senses are tingling to start with. I see nothing wrong with her approach from that perspective. She's being safe. Perhaps she has a room with a roommate and uses the other room for meetings? Is it irritating- Sure. Is it necessarily a red flag, don't think so. Again, if I let these things get to me and that effects the way I approach the girl, then that can work against me.
One thing I have learned with time is to get an understanding of the menu UPFRONT. If I were traveling 10-minutes and it wasn't a big expenditure of time if things go south, then maybe not so detailed. But if I was traveling a far piece, I'd want to make sure we were on the same page before heading out. Showing up as an unknown and then wanting to talk about menu puts me very close to an illegal act. Talking money and sex. So if the menu is clear before hand, no need for discussions. Also, IF something I desire is not on her menu, then I get to decide if that is fatal to meeting, or whether I am flexible to let one thing go. IF a girl has been clear in her posts as to the donation for her time / massage / companionship, then there is no need for in person discussion.
I agree with what Paul said about money on meeting. Girls are always wary of guys who play and dip. So to put them at ease, I make sure I show them I have the money for the massage within a min or two of meeting. One can place it on a counter, dresser or night stand away from the massage table, but her seeing it and being able to tell it's real and the correct amount puts her at ease. I have found that leads to a better massage experience.
But from what was reported sounds like she does have some form of security around. Which is a good thing. I'm always supportive of girls being safe!
Also, how one presents themself I have found can be important. Who would a girl rather see? A dude who shows up with shirt and pants he's had on for days, is disheveled, has body odor, bad breath OR the dude who is freshly showered, clean clothes, nice cologne, brushed teeth with minty fresh breath? (not saying this is OP, just general comment from girls' perspective).
Finally, in this hobby we are dealing with people and it took me a while to understand that not everyone is going to hit it off or be compatible, no matter what the needs are on each side. I have found no amount of money can change attitudes on some things. So I plan for that each time I see someone new. I always have some 'no thank you' money set aside. So in a case where a girl has to go help her Dad, I'd toss her a Jackson and politely excuse myself. Yeah, I don't like giving away money, but doing that is a great gesture of goodwill and perhaps will soften her stance and the next time she'll be willing to see me?
I dunno, all of the above is just general advice & observations. Again, likely none of it applies to OP, but it is often helpful to review some of the things that go on so we can adjust our approach and have happy outcomes.
Just some thoughts and hopefully they are helpful to some one out there?
Sorry again for the experience. Appreciate the heads up!
Well said and on point. His first mistake was not talking about what he wanted ahead of time. Once he was in the room is not the time to talk about what he expects. His second mistake was not showing the money at all once he was in the room. Smh. You aint smashing no booty until you show the looty. Common knowledge. Even at my young age. It leaves the impression that he was trying to pull a fast one by not showing the loot. Whether that was the case or not. Most ladies are not going to waste a lot of time talking about anything if they ain't seen the loot yet. And your right that she has the right and the choice to turn down anyone she's not comfortable with. She doesn't have to see every single guy who hits her up. Trust me. I know. She's doing well.
Sorry for your less than stellar experience! It stinks when one is all keyed up and looking to cross the finish line and get mission aborted! Not sure if it's any consolation but it has happened to me several times too. Appreciate you sharing the experience, as, as you point out YMMV! So many of the "less than perfect' experiences never get posted, so it takes guts to stand up and report as you did. Especially with someone as reviewed and popular around here.
But the whole experience got me thinking and hope me sharing some thoughts doesn't offend!. I don't know what exactly is going on here, so all I can do is reckless speculation, fwiw. Please no offense intended. Just hope it helps someone out there.
First off I had to learn / remember any girl has the right to see whomever she wishes and reject anyone she choses. Just because she is escorting doesn't mean she's 'less than' nor that she's necessarily desperate and has to see anybody. Desperation is often what one finds with the street girl and drugs. If there is no indication that a girl is on drugs or has a habit, then likely she's NOT desperate.
So that said, IF a girl gets to choose who she sees, then one needs to be on their best behavior. So a girl who has been posted all over this forum is likely VERY popular and has lots of inquires. I wouldn't be surprised if she gets 50-100 texts / calls in a day, and if so, IF you wish to see her then one needs to find a way stand out from the pack, in a good way. Me thinks one does that by being polite and a gentleman.
Second, I never expect a girl to respond the instant I text her. She could be dating someone else, at a dentist appointment, getting her beauty rest or something else. These girls have lives too and aren't always sitting there waiting for a text from me. It happens to me all of the time, don't get a response for hours or the next day. That just tells me she is busy and perhaps something in my note put me to the back of the line as far as she is concerned. If I think that's the case, then I look to sharpen up my approach.
Now I'll say this, catching an attitude with these girls because she didn't respond fast enough doesn't get me anywhere. In fact, a few times I believe doing that got me blacklisted with her circle of friends. But it sure didn't lead to a successful date, or perhaps she added a "premium" to the meet up price, because of my attitude? So I have found a bit of patience is helpful too. In fact, I had my Doc write me a script so I could get a booster dose at the Pharmacy!
I am interested to see a girl have you park in front of one unit and come to her in another unit. (doing that is IMHO kind counter to the rules, fwiw) That suggests to me she is being careful and from that perhaps her spidey senses are tingling to start with. I see nothing wrong with her approach from that perspective. She's being safe. Perhaps she has a room with a roommate and uses the other room for meetings? Is it irritating- Sure. Is it necessarily a red flag, don't think so. Again, if I let these things get to me and that effects the way I approach the girl, then that can work against me.
One thing I have learned with time is to get an understanding of the menu UPFRONT. If I were traveling 10-minutes and it wasn't a big expenditure of time if things go south, then maybe not so detailed. But if I was traveling a far piece, I'd want to make sure we were on the same page before heading out. Showing up as an unknown and then wanting to talk about menu puts me very close to an illegal act. Talking money and sex. So if the menu is clear before hand, no need for discussions. Also, IF something I desire is not on her menu, then I get to decide if that is fatal to meeting, or whether I am flexible to let one thing go. IF a girl has been clear in her posts as to the donation for her time / massage / companionship, then there is no need for in person discussion.
I agree with what Paul said about money on meeting. Girls are always wary of guys who play and dip. So to put them at ease, I make sure I show them I have the money for the massage within a min or two of meeting. One can place it on a counter, dresser or night stand away from the massage table, but her seeing it and being able to tell it's real and the correct amount puts her at ease. I have found that leads to a better massage experience.
But from what was reported sounds like she does have some form of security around. Which is a good thing. I'm always supportive of girls being safe!
Also, how one presents themself I have found can be important. Who would a girl rather see? A dude who shows up with shirt and pants he's had on for days, is disheveled, has body odor, bad breath OR the dude who is freshly showered, clean clothes, nice cologne, brushed teeth with minty fresh breath? (not saying this is OP, just general comment from girls' perspective).
Finally, in this hobby we are dealing with people and it took me a while to understand that not everyone is going to hit it off or be compatible, no matter what the needs are on each side. I have found no amount of money can change attitudes on some things. So I plan for that each time I see someone new. I always have some 'no thank you' money set aside. So in a case where a girl has to go help her Dad, I'd toss her a Jackson and politely excuse myself. Yeah, I don't like giving away money, but doing that is a great gesture of goodwill and perhaps will soften her stance and the next time she'll be willing to see me?
I dunno, all of the above is just general advice & observations. Again, likely none of it applies to OP, but it is often helpful to review some of the things that go on so we can adjust our approach and have happy outcomes.
Just some thoughts and hopefully they are helpful to some one out there?
Sorry again for the experience. Appreciate the heads up!
After seeing a couple of good reviews on KittyAds, I decided to give this little nugget a try. This experience was the definition of YMMV. Set-up started off easy enough, until I asked for her location.
It took a half hour for her to respond. I should have dropped out right there, but was far too invested in trying her to do so. Texted her when I arrived and after a few minutes, she tells me to park in front of a specific unit, which I do. More minutes go by. She asks where I'm at, so I tell her. She tells me to go to another unit, that turns out to be hers. M'kay. Get in the room and she immediately tells me that she's been drinking. She doesn't seem drunk so, no sweat. Then she wants to know what I want. Mention I like oral; giving & receiving. That's a problem. She doesn't like having it done to her. Keep in mind, she's texting away on her phone the whole time. Then comes a knock on the door. She peek's out, I hear a guy but not what is said. She tells me that it's her dad and he needs her help, so we'll need to reschedule. Fortunately, no money was exchanged, so I left intact. I figure something put her off about the encounter, and she phoned-a-friend to bail her out. If you decide to visit her, under no circumstances should you pay her first! Again, YMMV.
Sorry for your less than stellar experience! It stinks when one is all keyed up and looking to cross the finish line and get mission aborted! Not sure if it's any consolation but it has happened to me several times too. Appreciate you sharing the experience, as, as you point out YMMV! So many of the "less than perfect' experiences never get posted, so it takes guts to stand up and report as you did. Especially with someone as reviewed and popular around here.
But the whole experience got me thinking and hope me sharing some thoughts doesn't offend!. I don't know what exactly is going on here, so all I can do is reckless speculation, fwiw. Please no offense intended. Just hope it helps someone out there.
First off I had to learn / remember any girl has the right to see whomever she wishes and reject anyone she choses. Just because she is escorting doesn't mean she's 'less than' nor that she's necessarily desperate and has to see anybody. Desperation is often what one finds with the street girl and drugs. If there is no indication that a girl is on drugs or has a habit, then likely she's NOT desperate.
So that said, IF a girl gets to choose who she sees, then one needs to be on their best behavior. So a girl who has been posted all over this forum is likely VERY popular and has lots of inquires. I wouldn't be surprised if she gets 50-100 texts / calls in a day, and if so, IF you wish to see her then one needs to find a way stand out from the pack, in a good way. Me thinks one does that by being polite and a gentleman.
Second, I never expect a girl to respond the instant I text her. She could be dating someone else, at a dentist appointment, getting her beauty rest or something else. These girls have lives too and aren't always sitting there waiting for a text from me. It happens to me all of the time, don't get a response for hours or the next day. That just tells me she is busy and perhaps something in my note put me to the back of the line as far as she is concerned. If I think that's the case, then I look to sharpen up my approach.
Now I'll say this, catching an attitude with these girls because she didn't respond fast enough doesn't get me anywhere. In fact, a few times I believe doing that got me blacklisted with her circle of friends. But it sure didn't lead to a successful date, or perhaps she added a "premium" to the meet up price, because of my attitude? So I have found a bit of patience is helpful too. In fact, I had my Doc write me a script so I could get a booster dose at the Pharmacy!
I am interested to see a girl have you park in front of one unit and come to her in another unit. (doing that is IMHO kind counter to the rules, fwiw) That suggests to me she is being careful and from that perhaps her spidey senses are tingling to start with. I see nothing wrong with her approach from that perspective. She's being safe. Perhaps she has a room with a roommate and uses the other room for meetings? Is it irritating- Sure. Is it necessarily a red flag, don't think so. Again, if I let these things get to me and that effects the way I approach the girl, then that can work against me.
One thing I have learned with time is to get an understanding of the menu UPFRONT. If I were traveling 10-minutes and it wasn't a big expenditure of time if things go south, then maybe not so detailed. But if I was traveling a far piece, I'd want to make sure we were on the same page before heading out. Showing up as an unknown and then wanting to talk about menu puts me very close to an illegal act. Talking money and sex. So if the menu is clear before hand, no need for discussions. Also, IF something I desire is not on her menu, then I get to decide if that is fatal to meeting, or whether I am flexible to let one thing go. IF a girl has been clear in her posts as to the donation for her time / massage / companionship, then there is no need for in person discussion.
I agree with what Paul said about money on meeting. Girls are always wary of guys who play and dip. So to put them at ease, I make sure I show them I have the money for the massage within a min or two of meeting. One can place it on a counter, dresser or night stand away from the massage table, but her seeing it and being able to tell it's real and the correct amount puts her at ease. I have found that leads to a better massage experience.
But from what was reported sounds like she does have some form of security around. Which is a good thing. I'm always supportive of girls being safe!
Also, how one presents themself I have found can be important. Who would a girl rather see? A dude who shows up with shirt and pants he's had on for days, is disheveled, has body odor, bad breath OR the dude who is freshly showered, clean clothes, nice cologne, brushed teeth with minty fresh breath? (not saying this is OP, just general comment from girls' perspective).
Finally, in this hobby we are dealing with people and it took me a while to understand that not everyone is going to hit it off or be compatible, no matter what the needs are on each side. I have found no amount of money can change attitudes on some things. So I plan for that each time I see someone new. I always have some 'no thank you' money set aside. So in a case where a girl has to go help her Dad, I'd toss her a Jackson and politely excuse myself. Yeah, I don't like giving away money, but doing that is a great gesture of goodwill and perhaps will soften her stance and the next time she'll be willing to see me?
I dunno, all of the above is just general advice & observations. Again, likely none of it applies to OP, but it is often helpful to review some of the things that go on so we can adjust our approach and have happy outcomes.
Just some thoughts and hopefully they are helpful to some one out there?
Sorry again for the experience. Appreciate the heads up!
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