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  1. #51139

    Saerom continued

    Well all these recent reviews blew up her calendar. I tried booking Saturday but she's booked already for Saturday. She'll be sore on Sunday LOL. Hmmpf. I am glad for her though.

    Quote Originally Posted by LemonPepper  [View Original Post]
    I told her as much about the boob and butt job but she just tells me a girl wants what a girl wants. Said she used to be AA and Ds was always the goal so the B cups were always going to be temporary to stretch out the skin first.

  2. #51138

    Triangle

    I would add Tifa, Mina, and Rosy to the Triangles. Not milfs yet but not the youngest ones either. Winter could have made the list too except for the aloofness when you enter. It plays some factor to the ego if you are warmly welcomed in, provided that it's a transaction.

    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]

    An ideal Balanced Girl will have a Looks-Service rating of B-A or A-B to me. Jenny K is B-A with S pricing, so she is a Triangle Girl. I wrote down A+ Service but there are times I feel she is S, and she keeps improving. Nali is A-S with A pricing, so also a Triangle Girl. I don't know where the cutoff should be, but to me even a B-B, C-A, or A-C girl is a girl I'd rush to see once. We all value novelty, so a girl is always a tier higher to me "the first time". I just might not repeat her often unless we vibe really well and it feels like repeats are going to be even better. There are a few A-A girls and I reviewed all of them. Once a girl is S Looks or S Service, there are always better word to describe them. Princess (Lizza), Dragon (Nali), GOAT (MH Cherry), Unicorn (FA Isabella).

  3. #51137

    I disagree. Service is pretty well defined by skills imo

    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    I'll sum up the two points simpler, it is key to picking the right girl and decoding reviewers. People are pointing out the hottest HYA and the highest service Service Queens because they're a bit more obvious. The same names keep coming up. But it is hard to define a girl who has a lot of both. Jenny K and Nali are popular because they have a lot of both. There are some girls who are hotter than them, but those girls mostly have much lower service. There are girls with more service than them, but they are MILFs. These gaps tend to be big, so Jenny / Nali have a higher 'total score'. That's harder to define, so I focused on identifying them too.

    The Nymphos versus Service Queen factor is more complicated. Service guys who focus on Service Queens won't understand HYA Hunters. But a lot of HYA Hunters like Nymphos and don't care about Service Queens. So, our rating of which HYA gave us good service can look backwards to them. There were some girls I could reach the next level with, I just have to bring the service. With an older lady, I'm not interested in that same experience even though her skills are good. So best I can do is lay back and let the hour pass. It's not what I'm looking for anymore.
    I disagree, service is well defined by skills and wide menu. I would say service is easily the most quantifiable out of face (extremely subjective), body (also subjective but less do than face) and attitude.

    And one imo doesn't have to like or dislike service queens to make that judgement.

    Just like one doesn't have to like hardcore porn to recognize which girl is most skilled by watching.

    I also would say Nali / Joah is neither a service queen nor a nympho in my opinion.

    But of course, it depends on thee meaning of the word nympho. I take it to be someone who actually is really into sex and enjoys the frequent sex with randos. Imo very few true nymphos out there as girls do get desensitivized. And Nali ain't that to me.

    From what I've seen, the explanation imo is simple. People who like HYAs are reluctant to give lower service grades to hya girls they like. Maybe selfish reasons to make the girl stay or whatever else, I don't know. I think all girls should be judged on the same scale when talking about service. Not the "good enough for me" scale but on a more objective, skill-based scale. After all, if not there where else do you grade a girls sex skills? I should be able to tell which girl can deep throat a 9 inch with no gag vs a girl who only gets the tip of a four inch in, off some score.

  4. #51136

    Greek with Pepsi

    I didn't hear back Pepsi's mood when I asked about it last month, so I decided to give her a try tonight for half an hour, and I had a great time. No mood issues that I could see, and I let her take charge, since it was my first time seeing her. She's not HYA, but she definitely is a service queen, and is attractive for her age at least for me. She helped me get undressed and quickly took my dick in her mouth and got him up to full staff. I tried face fucking her, but she kept it slow, so I took the hint and gave up on the face fucking. I thought I had read somewhere she did that, but I might have been wrong about that. Did some 69 before moving into doggy, missionary, then got her to the edge of the bed for standing missionary, where I told her I wanted to fuck her ass. She nodded and told me to go slow. She lubed up and guided me in. Fuck, that's a tight pop into her ass! New for me, I got to fuck her pussy after her ass! I was pumping away, got too excited, and my cock popped out, and when I tried to put it back in, my aim was slightly off and it went in her pussy. I froze, and was worried she was going to freak out, and said I was sorry, but instead of freaking out, she grabbed my ass and pulled me towards her. Holy shit, that was hot! That nearly sent me over the edge and after a few more pumps, I told her I wanted to cum in her ass, so I pulled out and she guided me back into her ass where I slammed my cock deep in her and came hard. I was so turned on by her letting me go from her ass to her pussy that my cock wasn't dying, so I kept pumping and then I pulled out and put it back in her pussy and kept going! Lasted way longer than I thought I would, but couldn't get a second nut out. By this point, we were running up against the clock, so I pulled out and we went to the shower.

    I don't know any other girl that would let me go from ass to pussy, especially without wiping! Pepsi is now absolutely at the top of my list for Greek!

  5. #51135
    Quote Originally Posted by CumberlandBlue  [View Original Post]
    https://www.rokm.ch/product-page/baby-saerom

    I agree with Mudskipper's review 100%. It was my experience as well. I had an excellent time. First pop was super easy as her head game is good- she lightly caresses you and sometimes uses a little of her nails really well to heighten the sensation- often girls just use their hands more than their mouth but she used her hands as a separate tool like a girl at an AMP who teases you during the early massage. She gave me a bad message on my arms fur a minute but seemed she would rather suck than rub and just asked if I wanted her to continue or should she blow me. Her English is very good and must have worked in an English speaking place in the past.

    She also seems down for anything and doesn't have a problem with some rough play. It's not my thing but she's down for anything outside of real pain, she said. FIA is also available and will try that next time. . She is not ready to take a dick but she is so open to everything it might be a lucky guy to get it. I told her girls charge extra and she's thirsty as she said she is not busy and might have to move.

    Looks: maybe barely just past the HYA title but closer than all the other girls I've seen from M. If she used makeup it would get her closer to HYA but I like a girl without makeup so I liked it. Her chest is nicely shaped and perky, nice big b's I think. Her butt is small but really tight. She tastes great too. She mentioned wanting a boob and butt job and that would be a shame.
    I told her as much about the boob and butt job but she just tells me a girl wants what a girl wants. Said she used to be AA and Ds was always the goal so the B cups were always going to be temporary to stretch out the skin first.

  6. #51134
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Traubert  [View Original Post]
    Honestly, didn't understand the vast majority of what you were going on about LOL. But you caught my attention with Cindy and the topic of legends.

    I saw Cindy 15 years ago when she was going by the name of Tomi. Definitely one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen in this hobby. She had a contemporary that I was even more crazy about who went by the names Keety and Fuji. God I loved her. Stunningly elegant, beautiful with a hardbody that showed she was a Jim rat. Any other old timers remember her?
    I'll sum up the two points simpler, it is key to picking the right girl and decoding reviewers. People are pointing out the hottest HYA and the highest service Service Queens because they're a bit more obvious. The same names keep coming up. But it is hard to define a girl who has a lot of both. Jenny K and Nali are popular because they have a lot of both. There are some girls who are hotter than them, but those girls mostly have much lower service. There are girls with more service than them, but they are MILFs. These gaps tend to be big, so Jenny / Nali have a higher 'total score'. That's harder to define, so I focused on identifying them too.

    The Nymphos versus Service Queen factor is more complicated. Service guys who focus on Service Queens won't understand HYA Hunters. But a lot of HYA Hunters like Nymphos and don't care about Service Queens. So, our rating of which HYA gave us good service can look backwards to them. There were some girls I could reach the next level with, I just have to bring the service. With an older lady, I'm not interested in that same experience even though her skills are good. So best I can do is lay back and let the hour pass. It's not what I'm looking for anymore.

    As one person said, once you've done this a long time you don't want to remember and older woman. You want to meet some young women before you retire. I don't regret seeing any MILFs in the past, it's just not what I'm looking for anymore.That is why some of us transition into being HYA Hunters.

    The distinction between Nympho vs Service Queen matters because it's not possible to rate Service on one universal scale. Best you can do is rate it from your POV and say which kind of reviewer you are.

    Yes, Tomi is a Legend. She was a top tier beauty and is still beautiful to me. Others talked about girls from that era, but most of them have retired. As the best ones retired, it led to some of us focusing on either Looks or Service rather than expecting both.

  7. #51133
    Kbliss hoecall.

    Prema Shelly Sharon Keily playa vista. Maya Yami ktwn Kona Seoah in oc.

  8. #51132

    Great time with Baby Saerom

    https://www.rokm.ch/product-page/baby-saerom

    I agree with Mudskipper's review 100%. It was my experience as well. I had an excellent time. First pop was super easy as her head game is good- she lightly caresses you and sometimes uses a little of her nails really well to heighten the sensation- often girls just use their hands more than their mouth but she used her hands as a separate tool like a girl at an AMP who teases you during the early massage. She gave me a bad message on my arms fur a minute but seemed she would rather suck than rub and just asked if I wanted her to continue or should she blow me. Her English is very good and must have worked in an English speaking place in the past.

    She also seems down for anything and doesn't have a problem with some rough play. It's not my thing but she's down for anything outside of real pain, she said. FIA is also available and will try that next time. . She is not ready to take a dick but she is so open to everything it might be a lucky guy to get it. I told her girls charge extra and she's thirsty as she said she is not busy and might have to move.

    Looks: maybe barely just past the HYA title but closer than all the other girls I've seen from M. If she used makeup it would get her closer to HYA but I like a girl without makeup so I liked it. Her chest is nicely shaped and perky, nice big b's I think. Her butt is small but really tight. She tastes great too. She mentioned wanting a boob and butt job and that would be a shame.

    Her bb add on is going to slow her down as many may not need to pay the upgrade. I avoid the upgrade girls but the girls I wanted to see were off. I have a hard time buying the filet mignon upgrade when I'm happy with a great sirloin, but I am glad I did. I was planning to play again this weekend, so I will repeat with her, which I rarely do. I enjoyed her vibe.

    My only complaint is that it is a bit dark in the room and I like to see what I am eating but it was too dark.

    Quote Originally Posted by MudSkipper26  [View Original Post]
    Had an appointment today with her. She's definitely not baby and some mongers maybe see her as HYA but I would definitely put her somewhere in between and she is for sure CYA. Easy parking in the garage in K town went up to the penthouse floor knocked on the door and she was wearing a really nice two-piece lingerie set that showed off her B cup tits a nice ass. Immediate DFK as soon as I walked in and took off my shoes and we stood at the door for like like four or five minutes and she took my hands and put them on her breast and started feeling my cock. She grabbed my hand and took me into the bedroom. She's got a really pretty body and nice personality and again she's very cute and bubbly.

    We kept the DFK kissing and then she asked me if I wanted to shower, which I did. She asked me for the paper which was no problem and she's 340/100 I gave her 500. She looked at it and says oh honey thank you so much and I said I hope you bring your service and she says just wait honey. After that we went into the bathroom did the blue toast jumped in the shower and she scrubbed me from head to toe paying special attention to my ass. I read another review where she asked the monger if he wanted rim and he said no, so I thought this was going to be fun. She nelt down for a preview BBBJ and it was fantastic and this was went on for probably at least five minutes..

  9. #51131

    Legends

    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    Baby Saerom
    Girls with a combo of looks and service are underrated, because it's much easier to rank girls by just one or the other. It's why I've been refining a rating scale that works for me. If people review Balanced girls who have good looks and good service, more will come. It is the subject of the 5th Law of Kgirls as well as Divine Judgement.

    About Nympho vs Service Queen, the difference won't matter to someone who likes both - and many people do. Among MILFs, I only like them if they are Nymphos with at least a certain level of hotness. So that distinction is the only thing that matters. I really don't like many Service Queens as a result, even though I can highly recommend them by default to beginners who don't yet know what they want. Beginners should start with MILF Service Queens and understand all the possibilities, then decide for themselves if it's for them

    This is why I've repeated Cindy so much, it's for her Looks and how well we get along in the action. My criteria on Service is dtf, nympho, performance in bed.
    Honestly, didn't understand the vast majority of what you were going on about LOL. But you caught my attention with Cindy and the topic of legends.

    I saw Cindy 15 years ago when she was going by the name of Tomi. Definitely one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen in this hobby. She had a contemporary that I was even more crazy about who went by the names Keety and Fuji. God I loved her. Stunningly elegant, beautiful with a hardbody that showed she was a Jim rat. Any other old timers remember her?

  10. #51130

    Maya is back in LA!

    Speaking of nymphos, I consider Maya a nympho / service queen, and I was super happy to hear that she was back in LA, and in K-town, which is nice for me, since where she was before in PV was pretty far for me. Hew new location in K-town is new to me (farther southeast than the usual K-town spots I'm used to, near Olympic and Vermont, rather than the cluster of spots closer to Wilshire and Normandie.

    Anyways, her new place has a nice big bedroom, and she has the bedroom kitted out with all sorts of LED lights. I love her slender body, and after a blue toast and a quick shower, went to the bedroom, where I had her lay down so I could DATY. I love how she moans and squirms, and I got rock hard from seeing, hearing, and tasting her. After a couple minutes, I needed to feel her mouth, so I suggested 69. She happily climbed on top of my face and worked her tongue and lips around my cock. We stayed like this for what felt like a long but wonderful time, and then she turned around to put my cock in her pussy. We started making out, both tasting her juices, as she worked her hips around, up, and down my cock. She started getting that look in her eye like she was getting close to cumming, so I let her take control, and she grabbed my chest with her hands as she really started working her pussy on my cock. I love how her eyes start to roll back and she gets that guttural moaning. She came pretty hard and collapsed on my chest. I kept slowly thrusting my cock in and out and flipped her over to missionary and kept working my cock slowly in and out until she came back to reality. I could tell she could use a break so I told her I would do all the work. She smiled and nodded, and I kept pumping nice and slow.

    Stayed here for a while before I had her flip over to lazy doggy where I kept it slow for as long as I could, but not for too long, since it had been over half an hour since I had arrived and I was ready to cum. Couldn't resist the urge much longer, so I started really fucking her before unloading several days worth of cum in her pussy. Pulled out after a bit and collapsed next to her on the bed. We made out for a bit before heading to the shower. Having a sexy K-girl wash you while you're in a post-cum daze is awesome. I've definitely gotten spoiled by this! Sometimes I'll fuck a civilian, and then I realize that I have to wash myself and laugh in my head at how I've gotten used to K-girl showers.

    https://www.rokm.ch/product-page/maya

    https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/maya

  11. #51129
    Quote Originally Posted by ANon  [View Original Post]
    Just got back from seeing b saerom and I'd put her in the nympho category. Willing to please and def much better service than the typical hya. I'd peg her at early 30's so may have just aged out of hya but feels wrong to label her a MILF too. Felt like a slightly older less intense nali to me, but I haven't been able to get in and see nali for over a year. I don't really see service queen milfs, and haven't seen one for years so guess I can't really say how they compare but her service was basically what I remember getting from service queens. Even though she's slightly older than the typical babies, I think her level of service puts her in that sweet spot of young enough and great service. Will write a pleaser. She says she likes LA but isn't getting customers. I will admit I am shilling for her right now because of it but I honestly enjoyed my visit and want her to stay but everything I write is my honest opinion.
    She's def nympho and if you match her freak she will go harder. I legit think she wants the sex as much as the money when she says she wants to be busier. She tells me that she can't believe there's a job like this where she can make money and get off at the same time. I was curious about comp to Nali so thanks for bringing it up because first time I saw Saerom was after Nali canceled on me and the thought crossed my mind since she gave me a great time and like you said not hya but young and cute ish enough for me with that kind of service. Her face prob not for everyone but last time I saw her she said she wanted to get some work done on her face and upgrade to Ds so maybe if she sticks around and gets busier she'll improve her looks LOL.

  12. #51128
    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcan1009  [View Original Post]
    Who are your nympho providers? For me, most of them now days were service queens, those HYA that were all inclusive and also service princess are gone. Sigh.
    For me, I use nympho in the sense of the term nymphomaniac, so it's a woman who has an almost uncontrollable and insatiable sexual desire. The kind of woman that loves cumming and doesn't mind cumming over and over, all day long. And like with all providers, it's the feeling, the sense, that they give you, that matters. Most of these women would not pick most of us mongers to have sex with, if we weren't paying them. But the good ones give us the impression that they enjoy being with us, and the best ones give us the impression that they really want us. So it is kind of a YMMV situation, since different women like different mongers differently.

    Maya is the first one that pops into my head, when I think of a provider that enjoys sex and actually likes the job (for the most part; there are always asshole customers that ruin sessions for her, of course). Yami is another one for me.

    To me, a service queen is someone who provides excellent service, sometimes at their expense, but doesn't necessarily chase their own orgasm at every opportunity nor are they sex fiends. Pepsi and Collette are like that, for me. Same with Lily K, Sunny, Jaehee, and others that I have regularly seen or regularly see. But some of the ones I've mentioned have gotten bad reviews, so there are mongers who didn't click with them, for whatever reason.

  13. #51127
    Quote Originally Posted by ANon  [View Original Post]
    Just got back from seeing b saerom and I'd put her in the nympho category. Willing to please and def much better service than the typical hya. I'd peg her at early 30's so may have just aged out of hya but feels wrong to label her a MILF too. Felt like a slightly older less intense nali to me, but I haven't been able to get in and see nali for over a year. I don't really see service queen milfs, and haven't seen one for years so guess I can't really say how they compare but her service was basically what I remember getting from service queens. Even though she's slightly older than the typical babies, I think her level of service puts her in that sweet spot of young enough and great service. Will write a pleaser. She says she likes LA but isn't getting customers. I will admit I am shilling for her right now because of it but I honestly enjoyed my visit and want her to stay but everything I write is my honest opinion.
    Multiple reviews of her have all been positive. Might give her a try. Curious about Baby Lacey and Baby Dayeon though haven't seen any reviews yet. Will review if I TOFTT.

  14. #51126
    Baby Saerom
    Quote Originally Posted by ANon  [View Original Post]
    Just got back from seeing b saerom and I'd put her in the nympho category. Willing to please and def much better service than the typical hya. I'd peg her at early 30's so may have just aged out of hya but feels wrong to label her a MILF too. Felt like a slightly older less intense nali to me, but I haven't been able to get in and see nali for over a year. I don't really see service queen milfs, and haven't seen one for years so guess I can't really say how they compare but her service was basically what I remember getting from service queens. Even though she's slightly older than the typical babies, I think her level of service puts her in that sweet spot of young enough and great service. Will write a pleaser. She says she likes LA but isn't getting customers. I will admit I am shilling for her right now because of it but I honestly enjoyed my visit and want her to stay but everything I write is my honest opinion.
    Girls with a combo of looks and service are underrated, because it's much easier to rank girls by just one or the other. It's why I've been refining a rating scale that works for me. If people review Balanced girls who have good looks and good service, more will come. It is the subject of the 5th Law of Kgirls as well as Divine Judgement. Whereas if LA doesn't like a girl, it is fair enough she goes another city which might like her more. The same way LA tends to like spinners and attracts more of them than other cities. That is a good thing for everyone.

    5th law of kgirls - We get the kind of girls we review.

    https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/baby-saerom Baby Saerom

    The important caveat of that is hype doesn't help a girl. Guys just get disappointed and future reviews reflect that. Whereas if a girl has a true niche appeal, identify her appeal means guys who want exactly that will show up and be happy. Spinners are a good example, any Spinner who is decent looking with decent attitude is going to make any Spinner lover happy. No one else even has to try her.

    Nympho vs Service Queen
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Traubert  [View Original Post]
    Not sure I appreciate the distinction but Anna and Keily felt like nymphos to me. It was like turning on a light switch in DATY. Passionate DFK throughout. I would put Erin / Aria and Rosy as service queens.
    About Nympho vs Service Queen, the difference won't matter to someone who likes both - and many people do. Among MILFs, I only like them if they are Nymphos with at least a certain level of hotness. So that distinction is the only thing that matters. I really don't like many Service Queens as a result, even though I can highly recommend them by default to beginners who don't yet know what they want. Beginners should start with MILF Service Queens and understand all the possibilities, then decide for themselves if it's for them or not.

    Some of the MILF nymphos are not service queens. When I like a MILF, them being a service queen barely factors into it. I especially don't like girls who are too performative (loud, over the top, a bit too fake), even if they have top notch skills. I'll tolerate it and I do appreciate the skills, so I don't regret seeing them. But they are one and done since my target is to find new ATFs. Of course, many HYA are Nymphos but not Service Queens. That is exactly how it is - HYA have the Nympho advantage, MILFs have the Service Queen advantage. And that is exactly why I repeat many HYA.

    This is why I've repeated Cindy so much, it's for her Looks and how well we get along in the action. My criteria on Service is dtf, nympho, performance in bed. Skills only matter more to me when I don't find the girl hot. But the thing is, there are some young girls with good enough skills as a fair compromise. So that's why I tend to choose HYA even though I warn about them for Service Hunters.

    For guys who want both Looks and Service, I label those girls Balanced Girls. If that girl is also cheap for hr bb, I call her a Triangle Girl which is a higher standard relating to budget / value. If that girl is a HYA and Service Queen, I call her a Dragon. If she is a GILF or borderline GILF/MILF Service Queen, I call her an Elder Dragon.

    An ideal Balanced Girl will have a Looks-Service rating of B-A or A-B to me. Jenny K is B-A with S pricing, so she is a Triangle Girl. I wrote down A+ Service but there are times I feel she is S, and she keeps improving. Nali is A-S with A pricing, so also a Triangle Girl. I don't know where the cutoff should be, but to me even a B-B, C-A, or A-C girl is a girl I'd rush to see once. We all value novelty, so a girl is always a tier higher to me "the first time". I just might not repeat her often unless we vibe really well and it feels like repeats are going to be even better. There are a few A-A girls and I reviewed all of them. Once a girl is S Looks or S Service, there are always better word to describe them. Princess (Lizza), Dragon (Nali), GOAT (MH Cherry), Unicorn (FA Isabella).

    This is tangental, but I'll throw in this final Legend while I'm here:
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7589944 The Final Prophecy

  15. #51125
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    B saerom

    Just got back from seeing b saerom and I'd put her in the nympho category. Willing to please and def much better service than the typical hya. I'd peg her at early 30's so may have just aged out of hya but feels wrong to label her a MILF too. Felt like a slightly older less intense nali to me, but I haven't been able to get in and see nali for over a year. I don't really see service queen milfs, and haven't seen one for years so guess I can't really say how they compare but her service was basically what I remember getting from service queens. Even though she's slightly older than the typical babies, I think her level of service puts her in that sweet spot of young enough and great service. Will write a pleaser. She says she likes LA but isn't getting customers. I will admit I am shilling for her right now because of it but I honestly enjoyed my visit and want her to stay but everything I write is my honest opinion.

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