Non Pro's

[Marko Ramius]

A good percentage (like a quarter or a third) of girls on those sites who claim they are 18 or 19 are UA. I screen by always going somewhere we can order drinks and she will get carded on a first meetup. That isn't 100 percent effective at all though, but might spread around the misery.

My preferred cutoff is 26 or older. And the best experiences have been with ones around 30 or so.

An 18 year old that looks halfway good just has to show up. Someone who is thirty who isn't a blob of lard actually knows how to take care of herself. These days that are also a lot more women in that age band who don't have kids and don't want kids so that whole issue doesn't come up at all.

[Marko Ramius]

In 2026 the real high end girls aren't on any sugar sites. And to even get access to them expect to show you have at least eight digits in your net worth.

[Brinkcam99]

What does VIP girls mean?

I don't understand that term.

Maybe your question was rhetorical or tongue in cheek, but based on the OPs posts he clearly views any girl at $1,000 or above as VIP.

Seems gullible. They charge a lot and have glammed up pics, therefore they are "high end" and VIP.

[HelloThar]

Any time my gut starts sending up red flags I listen. If it's not smooth and easy, it is definitely not worth it and weird requests or energy almost always mean it's a rob or scam.

This works amazingly well for almost any online interaction when it comes to meetups. People always give hints of red flags or suspicious interactions.

Also if it seems too good to be true, it likely is, and any time you're rushed to make a decision it's a bad sign as well.

[Nampa Boi]

I was robbed a few times in Turkey and Italy. So I can smell it now.

Both girls insisted that I must pick them up in very strange locations. They made everything too urgent.

One of them insisted that her boyfriend will meet me in the lobby of hotel which they have selected.

One of them accidentally sent me messages which was for her mob where she described details of robbing.

Another girl sent me messages at night that her boyfriend is pushing her to do this. But she is a good girl and doesn't want to rob anyone.

Girl who was trying to steal my wallet was banned from VIP agency because of these things. I'm pretty sure she is still active on SB.

VIP girls are mostly good. They love sex, they love to be dirty and do everything to please you. Success rate is 90%, because sometimes they got sick. There is a huge contrast between girls who are building reputation as reliable sex providers and amateurs who mostly don't like and want sex.

In order to find them filter girls with 1000 $+ and check their twitter.

I use only c-orgs. They are way more secure and then k-org. All of them are listed on this website.

For me SB is only for 18,19th years old babes. Usually they are just curious and it takes time to prepare them for a date.

What does VIP girls mean?

I don't understand that term.

[Morgan Creamin]

I was robbed a few times in Turkey and Italy. So I can smell it now.

Both girls insisted that I must pick them up in very strange locations. They made everything too urgent.

Any time my gut starts sending up red flags I listen. If it's not smooth and easy, it is definitely not worth it and weird requests or energy almost always mean it's a rob or scam.

[Mrnobody3455]

I was robbed a few times in Turkey and Italy. So I can smell it now.

Both girls insisted that I must pick them up in very strange locations. They made everything too urgent.

One of them insisted that her boyfriend will meet me in the lobby of hotel which they have selected.

One of them accidentally sent me messages which was for her mob where she described details of robbing.

Another girl sent me messages at night that her boyfriend is pushing her to do this. But she is a good girl and doesn't want to rob anyone.

Girl who was trying to steal my wallet was banned from VIP agency because of these things. I'm pretty sure she is still active on SB.

VIP girls are mostly good. They love sex, they love to be dirty and do everything to please you. Success rate is 90%, because sometimes they got sick. There is a huge contrast between girls who are building reputation as reliable sex providers and amateurs who mostly don't like and want sex.

In order to find them filter girls with 1000 $+ and check their twitter.

I use only c-orgs. They are way more secure and then k-org. All of them are listed on this website.

For me SB is only for 18,19th years old babes. Usually they are just curious and it takes time to prepare them for a date.

[HelloThar]

A few words about secret benefits. It doesn't require I'd verification; it.

Only needs cell phone verification. So, there are a lot of scammers who just passed text verificaton.

Now, my statistics. I've been reaching out only to girls aged 18-21 originally.

Now I'm mostly targeting 18-19 years old. I'm avoiding 27+. They are very problematic from my perspective.

1. Over the past year, I sent messages to 97 girls in 200 miles area from Seattle.

This approach has worked pretty well for young girls:

- I'm focusing on those who have verified profiles with video and.

Well-written messages.

- I emphasize that I want a real connection and good chemistry between.

Us.

2. Out of the 97 girls, 22 replied to me, so I started chatting with them.

3. Dated with physical intimacy with 6 of them. One girl tried to steal my.

Wallet. Two of these girls were absolutely gorgeous 18th years old blondes.

4. Two girls out of 22 were from professional criminal organizations operating in Seattle area. Glad that I.

Caught on. They are just robbing guys on the dates.

Overall, most of these girls just want to find someone who will give them.

Money without sex. Or to find someone who will give them money for endless things which they want.

The tactics they use:

1. Shopping parasites: They would say something like, "I'd like to have.

Sex with you, but let's do some shopping first. " I just ignore them.

2. Urgent need in money: Their grandfather is sick or their young brother.

Needs help, etc. I ignore and report these cases.

3. Money before the date: She says she wants a good date and therefore.

Needs money for makeup, clothes, and other stuff because she thinks of you.

All the time. It's fake; you won't see her after she gets as much money as it possible from you.

4. Canceling dates in the evening before the actual date: She cancels due.

To some emergency involving her grandfather, asking for money for a trip.

Etc. I just block them.

Alternatives: Agency and VIP girls are much better options. I've dated.

Many VIP girls aged 21+ who were gorgeous. From my perspective, there's absolutely no point in.

Dating non-professional girls of girls 21+; they're more problematic and.

Not as attractive as VIP girls. I use secret benefits only for girls aged 18-19.

How were they robbing you middate before you caught on? Unless you listed how right after.

I've definitely had my share of similar scammers when on seeking. As the saying goes, never give a deposit and most won't be an issue.

I'd probably be checking IDs too. Your approximately 6% success rate is sadly what I figured it would be for anyone in the game, even dating.

[DilzParty]

I really do wonder what percentage of men in the sugar game would go after a girl like that? Personally I wouldn't go near anything like that even if she would see me for free.

The funny part is she favorited me after I looked LOL.

I'd be very down, queer alt kinky girls are the best lay if there is even a little bit of a connection. At the moment I'm not looking for the pro vibes she is putting off so I haven't messaged her but if I was looking for an expensive one-off I'd be all over it based on looks.

[MilfHunter66]

Seriously, WTF is this supposed to be? To each their own, but when you're looking to be a SB I can't help but think you're seriously limiting your potential market of SDs with this level of body mods. For me this is completely unattractive and my hand looks a lot more inviting.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...6-fe1806bef7f8

I really do wonder what percentage of men in the sugar game would go after a girl like that? Personally I wouldn't go near anything like that even if she would see me for free.

The funny part is she favorited me after I looked LOL.

[WaldoJnk]

Good luck, BBFS is not a very open topic here, and all the agencies have bookers that will say no. YMMV when you are with the lady, but certainly not guaranteed.

Thanks for this. Up north, you get banned from forums just for bringing it up in a post. So much worse up here.

[CuriosityKat]

Seriously, WTF is this supposed to be? To each their own, but when you're looking to be a SB I can't help but think you're seriously limiting your potential market of SDs with this level of body mods. For me this is completely unattractive and my hand looks a lot more inviting.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...6-fe1806bef7f8

I got hepatitis just looking at those photos.

[3Putt]

Not from the area and traveling in. I usually go with SB because it's easier to get bare from an SB then from an agency or even independent Pro (at least where I come from). So do you have recommendations for a VIP or Agency that provides the VIP experience? Thanks in advance!!

Good luck, BBFS is not a very open topic here, and all the agencies have bookers that will say no. YMMV when you are with the lady, but certainly not guaranteed.

[WaldoJnk]

A few words about secret benefits. It doesn't require I'd verification; it.

Only needs cell phone verification. So, there are a lot of scammers who just passed text verificaton.

Now, my statistics. I've been reaching out only to girls aged 18-21 originally.

Now I'm mostly targeting 18-19 years old. I'm avoiding 27+. They are very problematic from my perspective.

1. Over the past year, I sent messages to 97 girls in 200 miles area from Seattle.

This approach has worked pretty well for young girls:

- I'm focusing on those who have verified profiles with video and.

Well-written messages.

- I emphasize that I want a real connection and good chemistry between.

Us.

2. Out of the 97 girls, 22 replied to me, so I started chatting with them.

3. Dated with physical intimacy with 6 of them. One girl tried to steal my.

Wallet. Two of these girls were absolutely gorgeous 18th years old blondes.

4. Two girls out of 22 were from professional criminal organizations operating in Seattle area. Glad that I.

Caught on. They are just robbing guys on the dates.

Overall, most of these girls just want to find someone who will give them.

Money without sex. Or to find someone who will give them money for endless things which they want.

The tactics they use:

1. Shopping parasites: They would say something like, "I'd like to have.

Sex with you, but let's do some shopping first. " I just ignore them.

2. Urgent need in money: Their grandfather is sick or their young brother.

Needs help, etc. I ignore and report these cases.

3. Money before the date: She says she wants a good date and therefore.

Needs money for makeup, clothes, and other stuff because she thinks of you.

All the time. It's fake; you won't see her after she gets as much money as it possible from you.

4. Canceling dates in the evening before the actual date: She cancels due.

To some emergency involving her grandfather, asking for money for a trip.

Etc. I just block them.

Alternatives: Agency and VIP girls are much better options. I've dated.

Many VIP girls aged 21+ who were gorgeous. From my perspective, there's absolutely no point in.

Dating non-professional girls of girls 21+; they're more problematic and.

Not as attractive as VIP girls. I use secret benefits only for girls aged 18-19.

Not from the area and traveling in. I usually go with SB because it's easier to get bare from an SB then from an agency or even independent Pro (at least where I come from). So do you have recommendations for a VIP or Agency that provides the VIP experience? Thanks in advance!!

[Morgan Creamin]

Seriously, WTF is this supposed to be? To each their own, but when you're looking to be a SB I can't help but think you're seriously limiting your potential market of SDs with this level of body mods. For me this is completely unattractive and my hand looks a lot more inviting.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...6-fe1806bef7f8