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  1. #1350

    Time to move on

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianGod6  [View Original Post]
    So it seems there's certain reviewers that get early access to new girls, who are not in rotation, and they post a review on the behalf of MMS.

    This would brings into light of the credibility of these reviews and how much of it is influenced by the spa itself.

    I texted Butterfly this afternoon, and I got a different lineup compared to what's posted on review recently.

    It looks like someone has a little deal going on with the MMS and isn't honest about cost and overly exaggerated descriptions / services.
    You sound consistently very unhappy with Butterfly. Instead of returning, over and over, I would go somewhere else. I vote with my feet and my wallet. There are 100's of places to choose from.

  2. #1349

    Multiple Pops / Squirt Show / Creampie Anal w / Honey at Leisure

    Prologue:

    The rumors are true. If you want to get in the most legendary session of your life, Honey will do absolutely anything and everything for the right price, the right attitude, and peak sexual stamina.

    She's exactly how most of you described. %100 stacked, pink lemonade blonde hair, big ass titties with some huge perky pink nipples, ass like J Lo's, and a raging sexual appetite like a gloryhole dominatrix ****.

    Welcome to Leisure Massage Spa:

    I came in on a slow Monday, midday afternoon. It seemed like a couple of cars parked in the lot, but a good amount of customers just had left. I buzz in the side door, Zoey a petite, sexy ass body with a fuckable cute face lets me in. Leisure is surprisingly a small spa. You already see the tne room once you enter, and then a couple of rooms maybe three after that. The exit of the spa, which is the front facing the street, is less than 12 steps away.

    Anyways, Zoey leads me in the first room, and begins DFKing me with her snake-like tongue going straight down my throat. She unzips my pants and pulls out my cock. Without even giving a single dollar yet, she BBBJ with a lot of DT, and slobbers out the words "How long do you want, baby?

    Of course, I took my time to answer while I was busy fucking the walls in the back of her throat. "I want a full hour baby. " I say casually. LOL.

    I took out the 60 and placed it in between the cleavage of her tits like a stripper. While she continued to gag my cock, I had to stop her because "Actually baby, I wanted to know if Honey is available."

    She smiled. "Of course, baby. Let me go get her for you." We DFK and she was off.

    While I was in the middle of taking off my clothes, the legendary Honey walks through the door and pushes me against the wall. She's very rough.

    ROUND 1, Honey is in control, not you.

    We LFK at first and I wanted to stick my tongue down her throat, but she was like, "I don't French kiss without swallowing your cum first, baby. " Say less, she unwraps my towel and GOES TO TOWN on my cock. She props me on the edge of the bed and spreads my legs, as if I was a girl and she was eating my pussy. But she was having a buffet of anything and everything. My balls, she's sniffing, licking, lightly bitting, and sucking them off my skin. My asshole, she's rimming like nobody's business, and I can feel her tongue / fingers digging into my ass, I literally almost shat on her face. But she could care less. It's like this is a sport to her and she wants my cum almost immediately. Her BBBJ with her luscious big lips are like fucking the pussy itself. She's nasty- messy, and does not give a fuck what you want. BUT YOU WANT it!

    She tells me, "I only cum in missionary style, baby. You fuck me, now!" As she grabs my cock like a leash and yanks me around. Not sure how a condom got there, but it was some David Blaine type of shit.

    She's the DOM in this session for sure, and I'm just her fucktoy. When I mounted her, she wraps her legs around you and squeezes you violently back and forth. I know I was pumping her, but it definitely wasn't in my rhythm, it was all her rocking my body into that wet pussy. I tried giving her DFK while fucking her mish, but she kept on pushing me away. At some point she grabbed my throat and said, "No, I don't kiss with tongue until your cum is down my throat!" The way she dirty talks and slows the pace down so I can penetrate her more deeper, hitting the pussy walls was such a turn on. Finally, she pushes me back and tells me get on the bed. She blows on a rubber and finally mounts me for a RCG.

    The way she rides you isn't like any other provider out there, ever. Because the way she inserts your cock in her pussy, isn't completely insert all the way. It's like she inserts it halfway while standing up slightly in a squat, and does a kegel squeeze on your cock. She definitely has a voluptuous plump ass, like a fit Latina doing salsa, and the way she arches it. GYAT damn! My God what a sight! She bounces in her own rhythm. She goes fast so you can grab her hips, spank that ass and watch it jiggle. And if she feels like your cock is twitching and about to cum, it's like she edges you by going real slowly and body rolls her ass into your cock even more.

    Before I knew it, she swivels on my cock and switches to ACG. It's exactly like her RCG but a little bit more intense. This crazy ***** loves to be in control! If she wants to slap you, she will slap the shit out of you. "Cum in my mouth, now!" As her thrusts and my pumping underneath are building a lot of momentum. She switches the pace and slows down. She can feel the cock twitching again. She wants to edge me. She arches forward and lifts my head off the pillow, and makes me watch my cock go in and out of her pussy, while she does her kegel squeeze and my hands are all over her J Lo ass. I wanted to kiss, but she pulls away.

    "I said I only kiss after I tasted your cum. " She grabs my hair, whispers violently in my ear with her tongue trying to find it's way inside. My cock twitches again, and she goes back into this masturbating up and down pace on my cock using her pussy to do it. It felt so good that I yelled, "Babe, I'm about to fucking cum!

    She unmounts, rips the condom and throws that fucker against the wall, then DT me until I unloaded a milkshake down her throat. Not once did she let the cum drip out, she remained like that until every drop was out and I'm twitching with like I'm having a fucking seizure. She showed me the back of her tongue to ensure to me that every drop was swallowed. She then sticks that same tongue down my mouth DFK-ing the shit out of me while stroking my blown cock. It gets more intense from here on out.

    ROUND 2, Spit, Squirt, Cum, Repeat.

    Even though that in itself is enough to be legendary, Round 2 is where the real action is at. While she makes out on top of me, she positions my cock in between her legs and lets me rubs it against her pussy so she could masturbate with it. She likes to spit in your mouth from time after time, so be prepared for that if you're ready. While I'm masturbating her using my blown cock, she grabs the initial towel and props it around my head. She tells me "For now on, I'm your Master. ".

    Yes, Master.

    She grabs my neck and tells me, I'm going to squirt all over that face of yours. She grabs my cock masturbates her pussy with it. She even inserts it bare into that **** trying to stimulate that g spot even more. Like I said she doesn't give a fuck!

    This goes on for a bit UNTIL she stands up in front of me, props her pussy on my face and squirted all over my mouth and eyes. I've never experienced this before, but it was getting me rock hard again. She wipes my face off with my towel and licks off the residue.

    She blows another condom on. And tells me to fuck her doggie. We get on the bed and I was ready to mount into her pussy, but her hand grabs my cock and guides it a little bit higher. She said, "Put it in Master's ass!

    No lube, but I spat on my rubber cock and shoved it in there. Her ass feels like heaven. It was tight, but she arches more into a downward dog, and uses both hands to spread the ass cheeks wider. As payback for the way she fucked me earlier being a little bit elevated standing up on the bed, I did the same thing to her, but I made sure I mounted my entire cock slowly in her ass and controlled the pace. "Fuck me harder, baby!

    At this point, I doing some Olympic yoga shit while I was in that ass. Sideways. Spooning. Piledriver. Reversing the other way, like both of our asses touching as I aim my cock downward and plowing that shit like I want to strike oil. She tells me, she's about to squirt again. I unmounted and kept her in that reverse position, then positioned my face on her pussy while my asshole is in her face rimming it with her nasty tongue. While she screams loudly, I'm using my two fingers to gyrate her g-spot to make her erupt into a fountain of squirt that got all over my face and body, her tits and body.

    From here on out, I think the hour I paid, turned into a 1. 5 hour session where we just kept on DFK, spitting in each others mouths, 69 ing, facefucking (I do it to her on the edge of the table bare, and she does it to me on the edge of the table with her pussy, and of course she squirts on my face) At some point, we did another ANAL round and I pulled out, removed the cover, and came all over her back. She just ignored it gave me another BBBJ, 69 again, but I was tongue fucking her asshole.

    Honestly it was all a blur towards the end, because I believed with started fucking bare. And I wasn't sure if I was in her pussy or ass. But we were DFK and pumping each other like carnal demons. But I do remember I creampied something and she squirted another fountain when we finished.

    250 for her tip. Don't wait, see her now. An experience you will not forget.
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  3. #1348
    Quote Originally Posted by OldDude19  [View Original Post]
    MMS playing favorites is nothing new and it is smart business. They are always looking for customers that have money to make repeat visits and who get along with the girls. It is a way they can cultivate a list of customers that are reliable spenders who aren't assholes. It's a pretty rationale decision for any business owner. Most of these places also have a wall of shame (you think those cameras are just for show) where pictures of undesirable customers are posted to warn providers not to provide service.

    It's all part of the game. It took me a few visits to TA to get on Mina's and Jojo's good side. I knew they had their favorites, you just have to play the game. If not other options across the city to try and curry favor with the MMS.
    A sensible answer.

  4. #1347
    Hey.

    Any chance you can share the details?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad949  [View Original Post]
    Chinese Medical. Pretty much everyone there fits your requirements and everything is available.

  5. #1346

    It's the sad reality we live in

    Quote Originally Posted by OldDude19  [View Original Post]
    MMS playing favorites is nothing new and it is smart business. They are always looking for customers that have money to make repeat visits and who get along with the girls. It is a way they can cultivate a list of customers that are reliable spenders who aren't assholes. It's a pretty rationale decision for any business owner. Most of these places also have a wall of shame (you think those cameras are just for show) where pictures of undesirable customers are posted to warn providers not to provide service.

    It's all part of the game. It took me a few visits to TA to get on Mina's and Jojo's good side. I knew they had their favorites, you just have to play the game. If not other options across the city to try and curry favor with the MMS.
    Such a hard pill to swallow, brother. It's not like at C9, when it was still opened, that everyone had the same exact experience, rates, expectations, and etc. Kind of sucks it's got to be this way, and how MMS and spas, like this one especially that's getting traction, can manipulate the market this way.

    It is dishonest, and I feel bad for any newcomers looking into it and not getting what they expected going in.

    Again, I've been coming here for the last six months. So they do pick and choose who they give their pricing, services, and girls to.

  6. #1345

    Definition of YMMV

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianGod6  [View Original Post]
    So it seems there's certain reviewers that get early access to new girls, who are not in rotation, and they post a review on the behalf of MMS.

    This would brings into light of the credibility of these reviews and how much of it is influenced by the spa itself.

    I texted Butterfly this afternoon, and I got a different lineup compared to what's posted on review recently.

    It looks like someone has a little deal going on with the MMS and isn't honest about cost and overly exaggerated descriptions / services.
    MMS playing favorites is nothing new and it is smart business. They are always looking for customers that have money to make repeat visits and who get along with the girls. It is a way they can cultivate a list of customers that are reliable spenders who aren't assholes. It's a pretty rationale decision for any business owner. Most of these places also have a wall of shame (you think those cameras are just for show) where pictures of undesirable customers are posted to warn providers not to provide service.

    It's all part of the game. It took me a few visits to TA to get on Mina's and Jojo's good side. I knew they had their favorites, you just have to play the game. If not other options across the city to try and curry favor with the MMS.

  7. #1344

    MMS Influenced reviews, Butterfly influences it's reviews

    So it seems there's certain reviewers that get early access to new girls, who are not in rotation, and they post a review on the behalf of MMS.

    This would brings into light of the credibility of these reviews and how much of it is influenced by the spa itself.

    I texted Butterfly this afternoon, and I got a different lineup compared to what's posted on review recently.

    It looks like someone has a little deal going on with the MMS and isn't honest about cost and overly exaggerated descriptions / services.

  8. #1343

    Yomi at Happy

    Heard Yomi is back, so I called up for a last minute appointment before closing time.

    Yomi met me at the door with an eager hug and kiss. She asked if I wanted to shower and I declined as I'd showered pretty recently.

    After done paperwork, Yomi straight to her knees, cleaning me with a wipe and rubbing my dick between her soft tits. Motioned me to get on the table, which I eagerly did. She positioned herself for a BBBJ and went to work. This was an enthusiastic BBBJ. Lots of spit, lots of hand motion, lots of slobbering. Working both the shaft and the balls. She reached down and started teasing my asshole with a finger. I moved her into 69 and teased her clit which she seemed very responsive to. Did not do DATY as she has a trimmed Bush and it was late night (You know what I means but her pussy has no smell which is good).

    She went back to work with her BJ and eventually told me she wanted me to fuck her. She put the raincoat on me and climbed on. Couldn't really find our rhythm in CG so I switched to mish. After a little while of that, she asked for doggy and I happily obliged and eventually moved into prone. The whole time, I wanted to go back into her mouth and so I asked her to suck and she picked right back up where she had left off. After a few minutes of this, I handed her another condom and we repeated the CG, but this time RCG and ACG. I was bottoming out and it felt really damn good, but it made me worried if the condom had broken. After a quick check, she went right back into ACG and I finally popped in the bag.

    She cleaned me up and gave me a nice massage in the rest time. I always wonder if these girls enjoy what they're doing and she definitely seem to enjoy what she was doing as she told me she felt so good and told me she will have a good sleep to. I would go back to see her again if I have time this weekend.

  9. #1342
    Chinese Medical. Pretty much everyone there fits your requirements and everything is available.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tae1010  [View Original Post]
    Looking for older 50+ asian or other for massage, older is better and looks don't matter, can be mamasan or whoever.

    Please pm or reply.

    Thank you!

  10. #1341

    Want older lady

    Looking for older 50+ asian or other for massage, older is better and looks don't matter, can be mamasan or whoever.

    Please pm or reply.

    Thank you!

  11. #1340

    Yup, say less

    Quote Originally Posted by Ireland1988  [View Original Post]
    Have the people complaining about Butterfly reviews been there? I'm relatively new to Pasadena.

    But I've come to appreciate this place. I saw Stella and GiGi and had a great time with both. It's good value for your money, it isn't Cloud 9 in Culver or Top in Hawthorne but it's great for what it is.

    Anyone have recs on other local spots? So many in the area, are most of them are&T that should be avoided? I'm happy to TOFTT if anyone has advice.
    Yes, I can verify that I've been there a couple of times. I've seen Stella that you mentioned. Everyone is subjective to their opinion, and I'm not invalidating your experience. I was just offering an unbiased opinion about how it really is.

    PROS:

    Secluded area next to the freeway.

    Big spacious rooms. Small ass mirror next to bed. (not the best placement either) And crusty ass sofa on the side.

    Services YMMV, you get what you pay for.

    If you are feeling it, and if you can offer more (double triple of your usual tips), you could get more.

    CONS:

    No shower, it's literally a sink.

    If you're not a repeat, you get rushed within 20 minutes. (Even though I'm a repeat).

    If it's busy, they'll try to leave.

    Mostly average girls (Of course, I'm coming from the cockstars at Du Calme, Cloud 9, and Garden.).

    A ton of Cops have been circulating the area more recently, mostly in the afternoon (Of course, paranoid after the Cloud 9 raid).

  12. #1339

    Butterfly

    Have the people complaining about Butterfly reviews been there? I'm relatively new to Pasadena.

    But I've come to appreciate this place. I saw Stella and GiGi and had a great time with both. It's good value for your money, it isn't Cloud 9 in Culver or Top in Hawthorne but it's great for what it is.

    Anyone have recs on other local spots? So many in the area, are most of them are&T that should be avoided? I'm happy to TOFTT if anyone has advice.

  13. #1338

    AMP Formatting Issue, not genuine

    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelLee  [View Original Post]
    I'm not trying to convince you at all. What I mean is, an AMP is just an AMP. The reviews I write are based purely on AMP standards. I don't mix in those Asian agency escorts at all I have a completely separate judgment system for them.

    For me, I only go to an AMP when I need to relax and a quick release. It's cheap, it gets the job done, and if there are a few nice extras or highlights, that's just a bonus.

    Also, one more thing: hit or miss and YMMV are literally the most common reality in this hobby.
    You just said by AMP standards. And that's why these reviews feel a lot more shilled and botted. Which means anyone can copy and paste the same format and easily get away with a shill review that's completely influenced by MMS or a group of Mongers protecting their exclusive deal with her. How would that be an accurate representation of a place if someone was curious and interested about it?

    I'm saying that your reviews aren't immune to constructive objective criticisms of people who may have a varying opinion in the hobby itself. YMMV? Your Opinion May Vary is more accurate.

  14. #1337

    Ha

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidC27  [View Original Post]
    Damn! You definitely showed me that the few reviews I have posted are all useless and overall shitty. I won't waste more time with more details, but I will save your post & at least keep it in mind, if not re-read it again when posting future reviews.
    You're cool D. They are valuable anyway, post what you live- and see and feel, the more info the better.

    I've been on here a long ass time. I'm just saying real description adds to the review tremendously.

    The purpose of this whole site is for us to help each other find providers we want to see.

    (Bots and shills never describe details, like clit size and nipple shape, they talk in generalities- she was hot, etc, stat sheets).

    In our neck of the woods we are lucky to have the pluck of hundreds of providers, many doing the same stuff, but, each unique in looks and bodies.

    Its not like we are little boys just happy to fuck anything, many of us have detailed physical preferences when we have the choice.

    Anyway, have fun brothers.

  15. #1336
    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianGod6  [View Original Post]
    As expected, you're botting for this spot. You just admitted that the quality of these girls aren't all that great at all. We all know you get what you pay for, but don't make it sound like this place offers anything special you can't get anywhere else. BBBJ, standard nowadays, DFK standard nowadays, 69 Standard nowadays, CIM etc.

    Also, the fact that MMS texted you, and you come out with a review almost immediately is a clear indication that you are upselling for this spot. I have no bias, but I'm tired of people like you trying to convince me what I experienced wasn't the truth.
    I'm not trying to convince you at all. What I mean is, an AMP is just an AMP. The reviews I write are based purely on AMP standards. I don't mix in those Asian agency escorts at all — I have a completely separate judgment system for them.

    For me, I only go to an AMP when I need to relax and a quick release. It's cheap, it gets the job done, and if there are a few nice extras or highlights, that's just a bonus.

    Also, one more thing: hit or miss and YMMV are literally the most common reality in this hobby.

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