Bareback Providers

[GoaThillBilly]

I wasn't hobbling in 2010 so I don't know what it was like back then, but I can certainly attest to the fact that It is the P's who tell the girls no bare. It's the rules. They would literally 10 x there income overnight if they let the girl decide. I love it when these ****** want to lecture us on STD's like they are holier then thou! It's absolutely hysterical when a SW starts to try and lecture me about safe sex. These woman are so annoying. Everybody takes their own risks in life. Half these girls are on something and are in no position to lecture us on anything.

Well, I am not wanting to give away money to a "Safety Girl", and I don't want to go in not knowing their menu and plus many of them even if they do offer more, they likely will upsell you for it. The only way around it is to share information, so PM's welcome, especially for an AA Provider, not into the Big Uns though, LOL.

[DrtyHarry]

Posting here as she has been mentioned on this thread. Even if it is YMMV. I have time setup with her.

I noticed this review of hers on the other board: https://www.tnaboard.com/community/t...r-ale.3230051/#post-15116857.

Can someone with experience / knowledge please let me know (either here or PM) if this review is accurate and what her restrictions are.

I have a limited budget to hobby and definitely do not want to waste my time if I do not get what I am looking for.

Thanks in advance.

[BigDumper]

Back when I joined the other board in 2010, it was not difficult to find an $80 date with a GFE provider, that equates to about $120 today, adjusting for inflation. There were a lot of ads for a $150 HH rates which would be about $220 today. But that's not the case, most are at least $300 and up and the worst part is that menus are now more restricted over-all. Plus there is the trend for managers to not allow certain menu items and yet the providers actually do allow them. I find that very disturbing and weird, back when I first joined, managers were all about making money and menus were pretty open. I agree with what others have said here in that the main issue is there are enough 'men' that are willing to play the inflated rates even with the restricted menu. That makes things more difficult for their fellow hobbyists. It also seems that many providers base their rates on what others are charging, monkey see, monkey do.

I wasn't hobbling in 2010 so I don't know what it was like back then, but I can certainly attest to the fact that It is the P's who tell the girls no bare. It's the rules. They would literally 10 x there income overnight if they let the girl decide. I love it when these ****** want to lecture us on STD's like they are holier then thou! It's absolutely hysterical when a SW starts to try and lecture me about safe sex. These woman are so annoying. Everybody takes their own risks in life. Half these girls are on something and are in no position to lecture us on anything.

[GoaThillBilly]

Back when I joined the other board in 2010, it was not difficult to find an $80 date with a GFE provider, that equates to about $120 today, adjusting for inflation. There were a lot of ads for a $150 HH rates which would be about $220 today. But that's not the case, most are at least $300 and up and the worst part is that menus are now more restricted over-all. Plus there is the trend for managers to not allow certain menu items and yet the providers actually do allow them. I find that very disturbing and weird, back when I first joined, managers were all about making money and menus were pretty open. I agree with what others have said here in that the main issue is there are enough 'men' that are willing to play the inflated rates even with the restricted menu. That makes things more difficult for their fellow hobbyists. It also seems that many providers base their rates on what others are charging, monkey see, monkey do.

[TheRealSG]

There is an entitlement attitude in Portland and Seattle among the sex worker community that has really warped the market. They are killing drmand and think that the solution to lost income is to raise prices for the customers that remain. The GPS board exemplifies this problem but was not the source. I don't know if it is feminism or what, but I have seen for at least 10 years a very concerted effort by strippers and 8-ish years by escorts to jack up rates relentlessly. All the while complaining that its slow in the clubs or on the boards. Covid certainly didn't help. Strippers charging crazy amounts for lap dances. Escorts charging crazy amounts to fuck. The diversification of SW into things like baristas making money making coffee in skimpy outfits (and online SW has given girls more options. But the problem started before those became much of a thing.

There are a few that can command the higher rstes.

Most do not.

[SeattleB]

If you are participating in this topic, you are taking on some risk.

All fair points. I can't compare to asian agencies in the USA As I have never partaken, but it is my understanding that all asian agencies use false pics. Maybe it's different. The girls are not widely known for BB so they are seen and reviewed in non-bb boards like perb.

As for being extra dirty. Perhaps, but how is that any different than a known provider of BB in any other location? Perhaps I am misunderstanding you.

[WaldoJnk]

I've never tried those agencies. I'd be worried about catching something because my fear is it'd be like being the 6th man in line at a gangbang. Just seems extra dirty. Plus skimming through those sites, all the pictures used for their ads are obviously fake which makes me even more nervous about it being a total crapshoot on whether or not you're going to think the girl is even hot or not.

All fair points. I can't compare to asian agencies in the USA As I have never partaken, but it is my understanding that all asian agencies use false pics. Maybe it's different. The girls are not widely known for BB so they are seen and reviewed in non-bb boards like perb.

As for being extra dirty. Perhaps, but how is that any different than a known provider of BB in any other location? Perhaps I am misunderstanding you.

[Joseph1955]

Dining out around here just plain sucks. Yeah there are some good exceptions. But considering the size of this market, it's pathetic. Too many of the customers with the most money have the least experience, discretion, taste, or any idea on how to evaluate and assign value to benefits. But what these guys have is the ability to casually throw a lot of money at the mediocre and not know enough to understand what they're not getting. So yeah, everything gets more expensive, the few good places are extremely overpriced, and the quality of the menus and service goes down across the board. People who even 10 years ago would never have been able to book a single diner are today booked up. There needs to be a cleansing fire of the local food providers and let the scene repopulate from grass roots.

[Brinkcam99]

Spent a lot of time in Phoenix this winter and had 3 solid MILFs on rotation. All hot, 35-40 ish, BBFS, $300 or less for 30. Zero hassles.

Hit me up if you want some recommendations.

[HelloThar]

Since Brenna Sparks is pretty much the only BBFS provider in Seattle I like, I've pretty much stopped seeing providers entirely. With how expensive it's becoming, with how shitty and small our selection is here, and because the economy is very likely to hit a major recession, this hobby just doesn't seem worth it anymore. At least not here.

One thing I wish was more common is providers just asking for recent test / vasectomy results and then offering BBFS accordingly. Ezpz, no fuss.

Instead, we see this constant stigmatization, analyzing menus, figuring out who allows it and who doesn't, etc., that likely results in people being more risky and / or testing less.

You do see some providers openly ask for results for VIP in their ads, but it's nowhere near the norm. I feel like the ones that do are gems because it just completely takes out the guessing game AND is responsible. I know some of us like the thrill of eventual access after being denied meeting someone initially, but sometimes you just get tired of the games too.

[WaldoJnk]

Don't mind the extra drive to north, care to share more details on how to to find fun in Vancouver, is there a site where we can just point and order a take out? Appreciate it.


couldn't agree more, the damn golden pussy syndrome (GPS) is killing the street and the hobby, and another problem is too many whales in skipthegame, couldn't get jr up. this is y i explore the amp scene, but wanna smth different every once in a while.

Vancouver is really good for the asian scene. Plus with the rate exchange you can do pretty well. 375 after the rate exchange can get you two rounds of cip with a hot little thing. Non-asian bare isn't as prevalent.

Good sites to know about: PrivateParadise (handler is pretty good about sharing BBFS girls), xaio-dimsum, pussycatdolls, yumikolove.

For non-BBFS reviews check out perb. Hard to find BBFS reviews up here. The review boards are pretty strict about that.

[IstlFun]

If you're willing to drive a few hours, Vancouver has a better selection of girls than Seattle does. On average prettier and slightly more attentive (not as good as LA though). Because escorting is also semi legal up there, most but not all girls are more willing to discuss menu beforehand which is nice as someone who really enjoys Greek. The exchange rate also makes it a little cheaper. The problem is though, BBFS is pretty much nonexistent up there in my experience. Just no where comes even remotely close to how good the BBFS scene is compared to Las Vegas and LA. Girls who are worth their salt are more likely to move to those cities because of the thriving scenes.

Don't mind the extra drive to north, care to share more details on how to to find fun in Vancouver, is there a site where we can just point and order a take out? Appreciate it.

There is an entitlement attitude in Portland and Seattle among the sex worker community that has really warped the market. They are killing drmand and think that the solution to lost income is to raise prices for the customers that remain. The GPS board exemplifies this problem but was not the source. I don't know if it is feminism or what, but I have seen for at least 10 years a very concerted effort by strippers and 8-ish years by escorts to jack up rates relentlessly. All the while complaining that its slow in the clubs or on the boards. Covid certainly didn't help. Strippers charging crazy amounts for lap dances. Escorts charging crazy amounts to fuck. The diversification of SW into things like baristas making money making coffee in skimpy outfits (and online SW has given girls more options. But the problem started before those became much of a thing.

couldn't agree more, the damn golden pussy syndrome (GPS) is killing the street and the hobby, and another problem is too many whales in skipthegame, couldn't get jr up. this is y i explore the amp scene, but wanna smth different every once in a while.

[HelloThar]

I'd argue that Seattle has had this problem, in one form or another, for like forty years.

There are lots of little cliques here and a lot of girls don't play outside those cliques. So if you are on the outside looking in there is no good way to get inside.

I never realized this until I spent a winter in LA and had more pussy than I had in the previous five in Seattle. And better. Some of that is because every sort-of-hawt girl decides she needs to go to LA to be a movie star at some point and a lot of them land there and end up underemployed and often bored.

I do think the shitty civilian dating market makes the providing also shitty.

As one who has had extensive experience now in both the civilian and hobbyist scene here, I 100% believe there's a correlation with the shitty dating market and provider service.

When you have such a high number of technically savvy but soft, socially awkward guys, a ton of entitled and jaded women result that seems to permeate in all aspects of interactions and services. People here are not able to handle conflicts nor communicate well at all so ghosting and flaking is normalized. I've also read so many stories of women showing much more intention with dating literally anywhere other than the PNW. I firmly believe many here wouldn't even need to be in the hobby scene if living elsewhere due to options (though a few of you would get your kicks still).

Unfortunately I don't think any of this will change anytime soon unless there's a massive culture / demographic shift.

So rates will continue to rise until providers price themselves out completely and have to find alternate employment.

[Bobby ShafToe]

There is an entitlement attitude in Portland and Seattle among the sex worker community that has really warped the market. They are killing drmand and think that the solution to lost income is to raise prices for the customers that remain. The GPS board exemplifies this problem but was not the source. I don't know if it is feminism or what, but I have seen for at least 10 years a very concerted effort by strippers and 8-ish years by escorts to jack up rates relentlessly. All the while complaining that its slow in the clubs or on the boards. Covid certainly didn't help. Strippers charging crazy amounts for lap dances. Escorts charging crazy amounts to fuck. The diversification of SW into things like baristas making money making coffee in skimpy outfits (and online SW has given girls more options. But the problem started before those became much of a thing.

[AkFishGuy]

I'd argue that Seattle has had this problem, in one form or another, for like forty years.

There are lots of little cliques here and a lot of girls don't play outside those cliques. So if you are on the outside looking in there is no good way to get inside.

I never realized this until I spent a winter in LA and had more pussy than I had in the previous five in Seattle. And better. Some of that is because every sort-of-hawt girl decides she needs to go to LA to be a movie star at some point and a lot of them land there and end up underemployed and often bored.

I do think the shitty civilian dating market makes the providing also shitty.

I completely agree and believe it has to do with the Seattle freeze. No idea why people around here feel so entitled but anytime I leave town I can actually have a decent conversation with a woman, whether I'm wanting to hook up with them or not. Around here it's almost impossible to just have a decent conversation.