Strip Club Reports

[CuriousJnyc]

Stopped by last Friday and saw Chloe, not my first time seeing her and as BC goes she is good service for the donation $80 and two beers later I left very happy.

[RobertABouy]

Yes, TJ = Tijuana Mexico. I try to make it every year, sometimes twice. The mongering in Zona Norte is some of the best experiences I've had, completely worth the trip.

Just got back from TJ. Was there to witness chaos from the cartel leader getting offed by the government. Was in the club that am early and was wondering where everyone was. Went outside, it was a ghost town. Saw one burned out car, but other than that, just kept my head on a swivel and got back across pretty quick in the late afternoon (figured if it was going to shit, it would happen after dark). Slow day in TJ means the ladies in Hong Kong weren't trying the $150 bs much (a couple were, but probably worth it honestly). I got a few under $100 that day and probably the hottest street girl I have ever seen there for $60. She could easily work in HK. And she was awesome in the sack.

Went back Thursday and Friday for more fun and it was back to normal. Club was packed Friday night. Zero drama on any of the trips down. Just good times.

[Mattcs1956]

I had a girl on her knees, right after we started and I'd paid up front, in middle of BBJ. I see she's got one hand in pocket of my jeans on the floor. I cut the BBJ, grabbed her hand as she tried to pull away and hide. Asked why stealing. She scream wasn't, demanded I let go. Forcefully pried her fingers open and she's got 100+ balled in her fist she'd stolen from my pocket, ON TOP OF full payment I previously handed over. She said I was robbing her LOL. I took back my cash, told her to fuck off, and told mgmt. They didn't give a shit.

THAT's the type of BS mgmt used to have no tolerance about. Everything else is fair game between us and the girls. Stealing? That's a mgmt problem.

Only carry what you need. Dance, cover, drinks and tip. Whether at a club or a provider don't give the opportunity to them, is the best way to avoid a situation like that.

[OfficeHo]

I had a girl on her knees, right after we started and I'd paid up front, in middle of BBJ. I see she's got one hand in pocket of my jeans on the floor. I cut the BBJ, grabbed her hand as she tried to pull away and hide. Asked why stealing. She scream wasn't, demanded I let go. Forcefully pried her fingers open and she's got 100+ balled in her fist she'd stolen from my pocket, ON TOP OF full payment I previously handed over. She said I was robbing her LOL. I took back my cash, told her to fuck off, and told mgmt. They didn't give a shit.

THAT's the type of BS mgmt used to have no tolerance about. Everything else is fair game between us and the girls. Stealing? That's a mgmt problem.

What do you really expect the. Management to do? It's your word against hers. They have more than enough drama to deal with. They would have no problem telling both you and the dancer to leave and don't come back. Does not matter if you are a regular customer or if the dancer is a longtime worker. They just don't need to be bothered with it. Always will be more customers and always will be another dancer. Enjoy O.

[BoltonChaser]

Bruh, I've got a little bad news for you. You can't go to management and complain that a girl promised you sex and didn't deliver. That's sort of, well, kind-of, illegal. They treat anything sexual as a customer vs girl issue because that's what it is.

I had a girl on her knees, right after we started and I'd paid up front, in middle of BBJ. I see she's got one hand in pocket of my jeans on the floor. I cut the BBJ, grabbed her hand as she tried to pull away and hide. Asked why stealing. She scream wasn't, demanded I let go. Forcefully pried her fingers open and she's got 100+ balled in her fist she'd stolen from my pocket, ON TOP OF full payment I previously handed over. She said I was robbing her LOL. I took back my cash, told her to fuck off, and told mgmt. They didn't give a shit.

THAT's the type of BS mgmt used to have no tolerance about. Everything else is fair game between us and the girls. Stealing? That's a mgmt problem.

[Choir Boy]

Going rates for skip, tryst are stagnant or dropping. The clubs just don't offer the value they used to, the talent is a skeleton of what it used to be, and management has let their girls run wild. It used to be getting out of line got a girl booted from the club, now mgmt treats like a customer vs girl issue we have to work out. No thanks. I'll take my cash elsewhere.

Bruh, I've got a little bad news for you. You can't go to management and complain that a girl promised you sex and didn't deliver. That's sort of, well, kind-of, illegal. They treat anything sexual as a customer vs girl issue because that's what it is.

[James1]

"Long long ago I established a zero tolerance rule for dancer bullshit. If possible I would have asked for the 80 back as soon as she took it. Told her you changed your mind and walked out and grabbed another. I have done it more than once. Enjoy O. ".

Ditto. Always, per-negotiate the $80. Any BS just walk.

[AvgUSA]

Guessing TJ is Tijuana.

Yes, TJ = Tijuana Mexico. I try to make it every year, sometimes twice. The mongering in Zona Norte is some of the best experiences I've had, completely worth the trip.

[Willy O]

New to the area, what's TJ? I also went to BC and walked out almost immediately after paying the $5 cover, the talent was so bad. Everyone was quite old in my opinion and didn't even look good. I went to PM too but it was so crowded, I could barely move around. Left quickly too. Looking for other options. Thanks!

Guessing TJ is Tijuana.

[Jimbo72]

New to the area, what's TJ? I also went to BC and walked out almost immediately after paying the $5 cover, the talent was so bad. Everyone was quite old in my opinion and didn't even look good. I went to PM too but it was so crowded, I could barely move around. Left quickly too. Looking for other options. Thanks!

Tijuana Mexico.

[OfficeHo]

Let me preface this with a couple facts. Last time I went to PM, I stayed for a couple drinks and closed my tab without taking anyone to the back because the girls I talked to were cold, all about business and didn't want to have any fun or even give me the time of day unless I was taking them for a ride. Not my preferred way to start negotiations. I have been doing this for close to 20 years, have been studying Spanish for 7, and have been to TJ close to a dozen times.

I treat PM as my TJ pre-game spot. Brush up on my spanish, and treat negotiations the same way. Spend the first 5 minutes breaking the ice (Name, where are you from, how long have you been here, flirty type shit). If I'm interested, I'll buy a drink and see how far they'll go in the club and if there is one thing I've learned its to be explicit in what you want in the back, so there is no confusion or upsell.

Since I'm headed back to TJ first weekend of March, I decided to go Sat night. About 30-40 chicas working the floor, a couple 9's, but mostly 6-7's (no pun intended). First girl talked to me for about 2 minutes before grabbing my arm and leading me to the line for the back. I was talking to her in line, and she wouldn't give an inch. Everything covered, 3 songs, $100. Finally told her that I wasn't feeling it and split. She was pissed, oh well.

Second girl was the same story, didn't even make it past negotiations.

3rd girl I saw on stage (said her name was Saturn. A little thick, maybe 5-4, 140, C-D cup, great ass, from Colombia), pulled up a chair and tipped her at the rail, and let her know I wanted to talk to her when she was done. She came off stage and sat next to me, we chatted, had a drink, and she agreed to BBBJ, GFE, 20 minutes for $80 (this is the rate that I am used to getting here). We go to the line (which was fairly long), start talking. She's agreeable to take out and gives me her number. We get into the room (the curtains suck by the way, but at least they did away with the stools) and I pull $80 out of my pocket along with a cover and I place the $80 under my cup and place it on top of the bench. I tell her "por despues" which means "for after", but she immediately reaches for the $80 and puts it in her purse. I have never had a latina ignore "despues", not here, not in TJ. As soon as its in her purse she starts with the hard upsell "papi, you say $100 in line", "I need $10 for the room". Etc. Etc.

Now I don't know if word got around that I was turning girls asking for $100 down, maybe, but I was already out $80 and knew service was going downhill. I told her I would tip another $10 if everything was good, but other girls had said there was no charge for the room, so you're not getting that $10 from me. After 30 seconds of fake pouting she got on with it, put the cover on and proceeded with a lackluster unenthusiastic BJ. After a maybe 90 seconds she turns me around and she hops up on the bench and slides me in. At this point I just wanted to get out of there so I pounded as fast & hard as I could, and as I was working up to a finish, she hops off and tells me to jack off to finish. What a joke. I clean up my shit, grab my cup, throw a single at her and leave ($81 total damage). $81 wasted as far as I'm concerned because it was all bait & switch.

Between tips, my bar tab, chica fees, etc I spent close to $200. With the other options around I could have gone to any reputable AMP and gotten an hour of decently good service that would have been much more fun. I've come here a lot and have had some fun times, but it has seemingly joined the list of ever growing enshittification. I don't see the value in it, and I would rather watch it die a slow death than throw my money into the pit along with it. Am I going about my negotiations wrong? Was it just a bad night? Is $100 for 10 minutes the new norm? Do I stick out because I'm a gringo -- even though I speak decent spanish and catch many of them off guard? Idk.

It will be a very long time before I return to PM, if ever.

Long long ago I established a zero tolerance rule for dancer bullshit. If possible I would have asked for the 80 back as soon as she took it. Told her you changed your mind and walked out and grabbed another. I have done it more than once. Enjoy O.

[Ish741]

Let me preface this with a couple facts. Last time I went to PM, I stayed for a couple drinks and closed my tab without taking anyone to the back because the girls I talked to were cold, all about business and didn't want to have any fun or even give me the time of day unless I was taking them for a ride. Not my preferred way to start negotiations. I have been doing this for close to 20 years, have been studying Spanish for 7, and have been to TJ close to a dozen times.

I treat PM as my TJ pre-game spot. Brush up on my spanish, and treat negotiations the same way. Spend the first 5 minutes breaking the ice (Name, where are you from, how long have you been here, flirty type shit). If I'm interested, I'll buy a drink and see how far they'll go in the club and if there is one thing I've learned its to be explicit in what you want in the back, so there is no confusion or upsell.

Since I'm headed back to TJ first weekend of March.

New to the area, what's TJ? I also went to BC and walked out almost immediately after paying the $5 cover, the talent was so bad. Everyone was quite old in my opinion and didn't even look good. I went to PM too but it was so crowded, I could barely move around. Left quickly too. Looking for other options. Thanks!

[BoltonChaser]

Between tips, my bar tab, chica fees, etc I spent close to $200. With the other options around I could have gone to any reputable AMP and gotten an hour of decently good service that would have been much more fun. I've come here a lot and have had some fun times, but it has seemingly joined the list of ever growing enshittification. I don't see the value in it, and I would rather watch it die a slow death than throw my money into the pit along with it. Am I going about my negotiations wrong? Was it just a bad night? Is $100 for 10 minutes the new norm? Do I stick out because I'm a gringo -- even though I speak decent spanish and catch many of them off guard? Idk.

It will be a very long time before I return to PM, if ever.

It's been a minute since I've visited PM or BC, between the lackluster girls, changing door fee, back room fee, curtains vs doors. Some rooms closed. BC closed entirely then reopen. Just constant changes, none of which benefit any customer, regardless the reason for your trip.

Great report! PM and BC are attractive when they undercut local talent on price, in a safe place, offering quick in-and-out, and what you order off the menu is delivered. It's the constant fucking hassling that grates on my nerves, $5 for this, $10 for that, dance fee changing once you're in the room. The "I need money for the jukebox" or "buy me a drink" and orders most expensive thing on the menu + another for her friend, or cutting dances short, playing shorter songs per dance. Everything is a grift. I put a hard stop to all that nonsense. Give them an inch, they'll take a mile. It used to be just ONE of those would happen, then became ALL of them. Based on reports, only got worse, so I haven't been back in months. Neither have friends. Guys who used to go 1-2 x / month recently asked me where the good no headaches clubs are, because they haven't been in months. That's when I know something's gone bad.

Going rates for skip, tryst are stagnant or dropping. The clubs just don't offer the value they used to, the talent is a skeleton of what it used to be, and management has let their girls run wild. It used to be getting out of line got a girl booted from the club, now mgmt treats like a customer vs girl issue we have to work out. No thanks. I'll take my cash elsewhere.

[AvgUSA]

Let me preface this with a couple facts. Last time I went to PM, I stayed for a couple drinks and closed my tab without taking anyone to the back because the girls I talked to were cold, all about business and didn't want to have any fun or even give me the time of day unless I was taking them for a ride. Not my preferred way to start negotiations. I have been doing this for close to 20 years, have been studying Spanish for 7, and have been to TJ close to a dozen times.

I treat PM as my TJ pre-game spot. Brush up on my spanish, and treat negotiations the same way. Spend the first 5 minutes breaking the ice (Name, where are you from, how long have you been here, flirty type shit). If I'm interested, I'll buy a drink and see how far they'll go in the club and if there is one thing I've learned its to be explicit in what you want in the back, so there is no confusion or upsell.

Since I'm headed back to TJ first weekend of March, I decided to go Sat night. About 30-40 chicas working the floor, a couple 9's, but mostly 6-7's (no pun intended). First girl talked to me for about 2 minutes before grabbing my arm and leading me to the line for the back. I was talking to her in line, and she wouldn't give an inch. Everything covered, 3 songs, $100. Finally told her that I wasn't feeling it and split. She was pissed, oh well.

Second girl was the same story, didn't even make it past negotiations.

3rd girl I saw on stage (said her name was Saturn. A little thick, maybe 5-4, 140, C-D cup, great ass, from Colombia), pulled up a chair and tipped her at the rail, and let her know I wanted to talk to her when she was done. She came off stage and sat next to me, we chatted, had a drink, and she agreed to BBBJ, GFE, 20 minutes for $80 (this is the rate that I am used to getting here). We go to the line (which was fairly long), start talking. She's agreeable to take out and gives me her number. We get into the room (the curtains suck by the way, but at least they did away with the stools) and I pull $80 out of my pocket along with a cover and I place the $80 under my cup and place it on top of the bench. I tell her "por despues" which means "for after", but she immediately reaches for the $80 and puts it in her purse. I have never had a latina ignore "despues", not here, not in TJ. As soon as its in her purse she starts with the hard upsell "papi, you say $100 in line", "I need $10 for the room". Etc. Etc.

Now I don't know if word got around that I was turning girls asking for $100 down, maybe, but I was already out $80 and knew service was going downhill. I told her I would tip another $10 if everything was good, but other girls had said there was no charge for the room, so you're not getting that $10 from me. After 30 seconds of fake pouting she got on with it, put the cover on and proceeded with a lackluster unenthusiastic BJ. After a maybe 90 seconds she turns me around and she hops up on the bench and slides me in. At this point I just wanted to get out of there so I pounded as fast & hard as I could, and as I was working up to a finish, she hops off and tells me to jack off to finish. What a joke. I clean up my shit, grab my cup, throw a single at her and leave ($81 total damage). $81 wasted as far as I'm concerned because it was all bait & switch.

Between tips, my bar tab, chica fees, etc I spent close to $200. With the other options around I could have gone to any reputable AMP and gotten an hour of decently good service that would have been much more fun. I've come here a lot and have had some fun times, but it has seemingly joined the list of ever growing enshittification. I don't see the value in it, and I would rather watch it die a slow death than throw my money into the pit along with it. Am I going about my negotiations wrong? Was it just a bad night? Is $100 for 10 minutes the new norm? Do I stick out because I'm a gringo -- even though I speak decent spanish and catch many of them off guard? Idk.

It will be a very long time before I return to PM, if ever.

[SKWalker]

Is it open?

The rates are the same. You no longer have to pay for VIP. Talent wise last time I was there they had like 4 new girls.