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  1. #21510
    https://skipthegames.com/posts/cleve...s/851772312279

    WTF is this shit. Is she off her meds or something. Wasn't the whole situation with her she was on hormones or something? Peeked my interest but remember that being said.

  2. #21509
    Quote Originally Posted by Bikjik69  [View Original Post]
    Dude not to start an argument but you tipped over 30% for only a BBBJ to a drug addict that was willing to do BBFS but you decided against it due to the state she was in. So what did she do with that tip? Buy things to help with her personal hygiene? Maybe food? Help her family out? Or maybe cleaning supplies for her apartment? No, it's safe to say she bought more drugs. Please guys, I know it's rough out there but don't overpay and never, ever, ever, send a deposit. I personally feel the sad state of affairs we are in is our own doing.
    Yeah, but she needed it. He was worried about her being tired. Her infected leg worried him. He was worried that she didn't like being a provider. It was the care and concern of one human being for another. I am quite sure she wanted to know he was oktoo.

  3. #21508
    Quote Originally Posted by Lancelot6969  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, I gave her a tip. Maybe I should have kept that part to myself. Maybe I have too much money or not enough mongering. Sorry to mess you guys up.
    I am glad to hear you have more money than brain cells. Do you find it a coincidence that her new price is her old price plus your tip? Do you think the next monger who pays her new price and gives a tip will cause her to consider raising her price again? This is the road to over-pricing, worse service and diminution of menu.

    For providers this is a business transaction. They aren't looking for boyfriends or "cool"guys to hang out with. All they want is the money. They would not spend time with you otherwise. They live chaotic lives and need money for different reasons, many reasons are not good reasons. They don't need the money to support themselves or kids, that is what welfare is for. They want the money for their lifestyle and recreational purposes.

    Respectful and polite behavior is not out of place in business, so those who are saying "these are women not pieces of meat" are just trying to rationalize their suckerdom.

    What does tipping get you besides nothing? Do you want the provider to be impressed by you and like you? Are you trying to date the provider? Do you think tipping gets you better service? If you want more than sex from these providers than you need to reevaluate your life and get the appropriate help.

    To the "I tip because I can afford it crowd" I wish to give a little advice on becoming a millionaire. Step 1: Be a billionaire. Step 2: Tip generously because you can afford it. Keeping money is harder than getting money. People who have money keep it because they are careful with how they spend it.

    In summary, tipping is bad for mongers and providers. Tipping leads to higher prices and poorer service for mongers. For providers it leads to pricing themselves out of the market depriving them of money they could have otherwise earned honestly. We all know providers cannot emotionally lower their prices once they find a weak-minded monger to pay higher prices. So, remember, you are out there seeking sex, not love, be strong and don't tip.

  4. #21507

    Crazy

    Quote Originally Posted by QVsOnly  [View Original Post]
    This is basically giving in to the idea of being a provider. Men feel the need to take care of women and provide for them. It has been said that women will charge what the market will bear. Well if a woman feels one person will give them an extra 50 bucks, she will definitely ask the next man to do the same. That's because the first person proved that the market will bear the extra 50. I know this is true because I knew a woman who raised her prices significantly. Why? Because she could get it. It's not what she initially wanted or felt she was worth, it's what someone told her she could get for it. So paying extra does definitely kill the hobby for some.

    As far as treating women like a piece of meat to fuck, I can say that these women only treat us like a source of income. There's no feelings, no loyalty, no nothing. You are only money and that's all. You may believe you gain their favor, but they will turn their back on you in a minute for money. I personally seen this numerous times. So why treat them any better than they are willing to treat me? I pay them what they ask for the service and nothing more. When I had paid extra, I gained nothing. When I hire anyone else to do a service, be at a contractor or mechanic or whatever, I don't tip them. My tip to a contractor, mechanic or an escort is repeat service. I don't give them extra because they did a good job. I expect them to do a good job. The reward for that is me coming back again. My boss doesn't pay me extra for doing a good job. He expects me to do a good job. They hired me to do a good job. My reward for doing what I'm paid to do is that I get to continue to do it and someone else doesn't get my spot.
    Yeah, tipping her an extra 50 is crazy. Because when I saw her and turned her down because she looked dirty and messy, she was going to blow me for $40 LOL. Even at that rate, I didn't want to do it. Don't go crazy on the price. This is what causes the inflation and the egos that we have now.

  5. #21506

    Tailfins

    Quote Originally Posted by Lancelot6969  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the words of agreement. To be clear, I may have a low post count but I'm not new to the hobby. Been around since the Tailfins and **** days. My favs were Dana and Samantha. Remember those days and the get- togethers? Fun times.
    Do you remember Starinthesky? Little tiny thing with a huge rack.

  6. #21505

    Overpaid Sasha

    Quote Originally Posted by Lancelot6969  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the words of agreement. To be clear, I may have a low post count but I'm not new to the hobby. Been around since the Tailfins and **** days. My favs were Dana and Samantha. Remember those days and the get- togethers? Fun times.
    Dude not to start an argument but you tipped over 30% for only a BBBJ to a drug addict that was willing to do BBFS but you decided against it due to the state she was in. So what did she do with that tip? Buy things to help with her personal hygiene? Maybe food? Help her family out? Or maybe cleaning supplies for her apartment? No, it's safe to say she bought more drugs. Please guys, I know it's rough out there but don't overpay and never, ever, ever, send a deposit. I personally feel the sad state of affairs we are in is our own doing.

  7. #21504

    Tipping

    Quote Originally Posted by OhioMonger  [View Original Post]
    If you can afford it, a few extra bucks is not a huge deal and isn't going to kill the hobby for anyone. Too many guys view these woman as nothing more than piece of meat to fuck, and the idea of a kind gesture is unheard of to them. You tossed her an extra $50, which is nothing. Best case (admittedly not likely) is she remembers it and prioritizes the next time you try to schedule. Worst case, you made her day a little better for a few dollars. Don't sweat it.
    Thanks for the words of agreement. To be clear, I may have a low post count but I'm not new to the hobby. Been around since the Tailfins and **** days. My favs were Dana and Samantha. Remember those days and the get- togethers? Fun times.

  8. #21503

    Leah

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyManziel  [View Original Post]
    Which one was this. You have a pic. I feel like I knew her.
    That's Leah. She was an Akron girl so my place was too far from her hustles so she didn't make it up much. She was a sweet girl who lived a hard life.

  9. #21502

    Leah

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyManziel  [View Original Post]
    Which one was this. You have a pic. I feel like I knew her.
    That's Leah. She was an Akron girl so my place was too far from her hustles so she didn't make it up much. She was a sweet girl who lived a hard life.
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  10. #21501
    Quote Originally Posted by OhioMonger  [View Original Post]
    If you can afford it, a few extra bucks is not a huge deal and isn't going to kill the hobby for anyone. Too many guys view these woman as nothing more than piece of meat to fuck, and the idea of a kind gesture is unheard of to them. You tossed her an extra $50, which is nothing. Best case (admittedly not likely) is she remembers it and prioritizes the next time you try to schedule. Worst case, you made her day a little better for a few dollars. Don't sweat it.
    This is basically giving in to the idea of being a provider. Men feel the need to take care of women and provide for them. It has been said that women will charge what the market will bear. Well if a woman feels one person will give them an extra 50 bucks, she will definitely ask the next man to do the same. That's because the first person proved that the market will bear the extra 50. I know this is true because I knew a woman who raised her prices significantly. Why? Because she could get it. It's not what she initially wanted or felt she was worth, it's what someone told her she could get for it. So paying extra does definitely kill the hobby for some.

    As far as treating women like a piece of meat to fuck, I can say that these women only treat us like a source of income. There's no feelings, no loyalty, no nothing. You are only money and that's all. You may believe you gain their favor, but they will turn their back on you in a minute for money. I personally seen this numerous times. So why treat them any better than they are willing to treat me? I pay them what they ask for the service and nothing more. When I had paid extra, I gained nothing. When I hire anyone else to do a service, be at a contractor or mechanic or whatever, I don't tip them. My tip to a contractor, mechanic or an escort is repeat service. I don't give them extra because they did a good job. I expect them to do a good job. The reward for that is me coming back again. My boss doesn't pay me extra for doing a good job. He expects me to do a good job. They hired me to do a good job. My reward for doing what I'm paid to do is that I get to continue to do it and someone else doesn't get my spot.

  11. #21500

    Tipping

    Quote Originally Posted by Lancelot6969  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, I gave her a tip. Maybe I should have kept that part to myself. Maybe I have too much money or not enough mongering. Sorry to mess you guys up.
    Nope! When I find one I actually enjoy or fancy, I have no issues paying a little extra for quality. Given what is out here, if you find one to your liking, remember they are still a human being after all. A little gesture goes a long way. Even if it doesn't have a dollar sign attached to it. Just don't get lost in the sauce.

  12. #21499
    Quote Originally Posted by Lancelot6969  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, I gave her a tip. Maybe I should have kept that part to myself. Maybe I have too much money or not enough mongering. Sorry to mess you guys up.
    If you can afford it, a few extra bucks is not a huge deal and isn't going to kill the hobby for anyone. Too many guys view these woman as nothing more than piece of meat to fuck, and the idea of a kind gesture is unheard of to them. You tossed her an extra $50, which is nothing. Best case (admittedly not likely) is she remembers it and prioritizes the next time you try to schedule. Worst case, you made her day a little better for a few dollars. Don't sweat it.

  13. #21498

    Leah

    Quote Originally Posted by Hotrodvfr  [View Original Post]
    Allow me to digress for a moment. Your story reminded me of Leah. She'd come crash at my place for a day or two whenever things got too hard. When she got to my place it was straight to the bathroom for a bubble bath. It's be a couple hours of her bathing and doing her hair and whatnot before I really saw her. I miss her. She was a good kid. She died last year. Slowly, painfully, unnecessarily in the Summit County jail. To this day no one has been held accountable for what happened to her.

    Sorry for depressing moment. Still angry but off my soap box.
    Which one was this. You have a pic. I feel like I knew her.

  14. #21497

    Sasha

    Quote Originally Posted by LowRider69  [View Original Post]
    In the economics class I took, it also involved what a seller asks. Sounds to me like the guy who paid 200 when she only asked 150 wanted more than FS. He said she looked like she needed the extra 50. She could have accommodated just 1 more monger and had another 150.
    Yeah, I gave her a tip. Maybe I should have kept that part to myself. Maybe I have too much money or not enough mongering. Sorry to mess you guys up.

  15. #21496
    Quote Originally Posted by Hotrodvfr  [View Original Post]
    That was not me. I can't speak for the actions of others. It is however the ultimate truth of a free market the price is determined by what buyers are willing to pay.
    In the economics class I took, it also involved what a seller asks. Sounds to me like the guy who paid 200 when she only asked 150 wanted more than FS. He said she looked like she needed the extra 50. She could have accommodated just 1 more monger and had another 150.

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