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  1. #16118

    Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by Ineedtostop9  [View Original Post]
    Wanted to try out of Asians.

    https://evianfungiver.com/

    Pics are very good. Not sure how legit.

    If there are any other similar providers, recommendations would be help full.

    I have experienced all the Asian places, Cora and Lefi where the top tier providers.

    They enjoy their work and doing their best to keep us happy. Now they set our expectations too high.

    Had a lot of fun with double and singles sessions. Yeah lots of $ damage in a single month. But felt safe and professional.
    TER reviews shows that Evian is a scam.

  2. #16117
    Quote Originally Posted by Paradigm71  [View Original Post]
    I think you might be surprised at the actual money involved, even at a legit massage only Asian shop. The overhead is very low. I would venture to say at least 95% are here legally at a legit shop, maybe that drops to 75% for a L1, but your L3 places are much more likely to be way less and a lot more likely to be part of human trafficking as we would think of it. Of course, this may just be Ohio and the percentages all drop a lot when you get closer to NYC. As for the pay, most of the shops have a 50/50 or maybe 60/40 split with the ladies on the house fee for L1 and they keep their own tips. For the L3 shops the HF may go entirely to the owner. I KNOW how much even a provider in a legit no HE etc. Shop makes. You are looking at 75 k-100 k working 6 days a week. Now your L1 workers might make a little more a year, but may also now work as many days per week and might take more time off. I would be surprised if any of the ladies at a L1 are making less than 100 k each and the shop is probably clearing 150-200 k. Let's not forget a lot of that money is cash so no need to report it all either.
    Thank P71, your got the connections. All I know is they make more in USA, than at a China apple factory.

  3. #16116

    Have anyone been with her

    Wanted to try out of Asians.

    https://evianfungiver.com/

    Pics are very good. Not sure how legit.

    If there are any other similar providers, recommendations would be help full.

    I have experienced all the Asian places, Cora and Lefi where the top tier providers.

    They enjoy their work and doing their best to keep us happy. Now they set our expectations too high.

    Had a lot of fun with double and singles sessions. Yeah lots of $ damage in a single month. But felt safe and professional.

  4. #16115

    Not necessarily

    Quote Originally Posted by TimeForFun1982  [View Original Post]
    I mean, let's think this through. Yes, if they were actually good at their job and gave a massage that made regular people want to go there, sure. But we buy the massage to get the HE(this is where someone will claim they go for the massage too, anyone who has ever been rubbed by a real, licensed masseuse knows these asian girls don't actually know what they're doing for the most part), take away the HE and the place stays empty and they make nothing for "L1". AMPs are there for the mongers, period, full stop. They aren't making "Big bucks" either. The owner takes the house fee, the girls get their tips, and I wouldn't be surprised if in many cases they lose most of those too to pay for their room and board since none of them are here legally.
    I think you might be surprised at the actual money involved, even at a legit massage only Asian shop. The overhead is very low. I would venture to say at least 95% are here legally at a legit shop, maybe that drops to 75% for a L1, but your L3 places are much more likely to be way less and a lot more likely to be part of human trafficking as we would think of it. Of course, this may just be Ohio and the percentages all drop a lot when you get closer to NYC. As for the pay, most of the shops have a 50/50 or maybe 60/40 split with the ladies on the house fee for L1 and they keep their own tips. For the L3 shops the HF may go entirely to the owner. I KNOW how much even a provider in a legit no HE etc. Shop makes. You are looking at 75 k-100 k working 6 days a week. Now your L1 workers might make a little more a year, but may also now work as many days per week and might take more time off. I would be surprised if any of the ladies at a L1 are making less than 100 k each and the shop is probably clearing 150-200 k. Let's not forget a lot of that money is cash so no need to report it all either.

  5. #16114
    Quote Originally Posted by Bdirect  [View Original Post]
    If the girls can get big bucks for L1 massage, so why should they give L2 or 3 for just a little bit more money. same way at a job.. why work harder is you get the same pay (I hope this doesn't sound confusing )
    I mean, let's think this through. Yes, if they were actually good at their job and gave a massage that made regular people want to go there, sure. But we buy the massage to get the HE(this is where someone will claim they go for the massage too, anyone who has ever been rubbed by a real, licensed masseuse knows these asian girls don't actually know what they're doing for the most part), take away the HE and the place stays empty and they make nothing for "L1". AMPs are there for the mongers, period, full stop. They aren't making "Big bucks" either. The owner takes the house fee, the girls get their tips, and I wouldn't be surprised if in many cases they lose most of those too to pay for their room and board since none of them are here legally.

  6. #16113
    Quote Originally Posted by TimeForFun1982  [View Original Post]
    I start at 40, if they try to haggle me up, I will usually pass but sometimes go up to 50 if the shirt is at least going to come off and there's utc below or if the massage was areally good (it never is), then never return to that location. Guys overpaying for standard service is why some of these women think they can haggle instead of being content with what the going rate should be. Same thing happens with the apartment asians, SWs, and escorts. One guy thinks he will get special service if he overpays because he's too stupid to realize he's made himself a mark, then the girl thinks she is actually worth that much.
    If the girls can get big bucks for L1 massage, so why should they give L2 or 3 for just a little bit more money. same way at a job.. why work harder is you get the same pay (I hope this doesn't sound confusing )

  7. #16112
    Quote Originally Posted by MC999  [View Original Post]
    How much are you guys tipping for HJ only? Anyone try more than 1 girl and who do you recommend?
    I start at 40, if they try to haggle me up, I will usually pass but sometimes go up to 50 if the shirt is at least going to come off and there's utc below or if the massage was areally good (it never is), then never return to that location. Guys overpaying for standard service is why some of these women think they can haggle instead of being content with what the going rate should be. Same thing happens with the apartment asians, SWs, and escorts. One guy thinks he will get special service if he overpays because he's too stupid to realize he's made himself a mark, then the girl thinks she is actually worth that much.

  8. #16111

    NewMessage1 more

    Was in that area recently and swung in for a visit. Not busy around 6 pm.

    I got Amini or something, maybe 40's, nice natural rack, in shorts.

    Good massage on the back, on the flip haggle for tip. Tits out, allowed OTC roaming bottom, finish is decent. 65/ hr + tip.

  9. #16110

    Angel. CiCi

    Had a weeknight dream around 6 pm at Angel's. Thanks for all the ones that posted Intel. Their business is in an office building complex and where I parked there were no signs.

    3 girls were hanging out in the lobby area. I asked for CiCi and the 2 other girls and CiCi talked to me for a while. They were average looking and CiCi was the thinner and most attractive girl.

    The girls were very chatty and pleasant. I actually asked to start the massage because I was not sure if ask this chitchat was taking away from hr massage. It didn't.

    I think I was the only monger there but I heard the doorbell ring twice while I was getting an hr session. I don't remember seeing a doorbell LOL.

    As mentioned, CiCi's massage was unorthodox. I asked for a hard massage and there were times when it was a bit too hard. That's what she said LOL.

    On the flip there was no mention of HJ or BJ, she just went for the HJ. Was hoping for a BBBJCIM and wanted to see her gorgeous face taking me in but no mention of it. I did get some light kissing but no GFE or dfk.

    YMMV and I may have better luck next time with another girl. Damage was 65 for hr and I tipped 40. Cici did a great HJ and cleanup.

    How much are you guys tipping for HJ only? Anyone try more than 1 girl and who do you recommend?

  10. #16109

    Good to know

    I figured this place was TGTBT. Thanks to those of you who responded with intel.

    Quote Originally Posted by CountryBoy419  [View Original Post]
    Completely not worth the time of day. Lainey or however she spells it. A manager with TT and her girls post on sites like the Sugar sites and gets fellas to think one thing and deliver a totally subpar legit visit. If you can find her real name you can see on the book of faces the real image.
    .

  11. #16108
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedForFeet  [View Original Post]
    So I've gone back quite a ways, and found very little about this place. It's been popping on my FB and TT and the girls look amazing. Past intel says strictly legit. I'm ok with that to some extent. A great massage isn't always a bad thing. Just wondered if anyone had been there recently. I'm intrigued by the bikini massage as well. Seems like they are at least trying to get your motor running.
    Completely not worth the time of day. Lainey or however she spells it. A manager with TT and her girls post on sites like the Sugar sites and gets fellas to think one thing and deliver a totally subpar legit visit. If you can find her real name you can see on the book of faces the real image.

  12. #16107
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedForFeet  [View Original Post]
    So I've gone back quite a ways, and found very little about this place. It's been popping on my FB and TT and the girls look amazing. Past intel says strictly legit. I'm ok with that to some extent. A great massage isn't always a bad thing. Just wondered if anyone had been there recently. I'm intrigued by the bikini massage as well. Seems like they are at least trying to get your motor running.
    Bad massage, all legit other than the bikinis. May as well go to a strip club and get a private dance, you'll get more action there.

  13. #16106
    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestDude  [View Original Post]
    That is no where near "pricey". What do you get for that?
    You're not new here. You know that's pricey when tip is still expected and only HE is available. If there was at least a BJ or DATY then sure. But for what will end up being at least $150. Just go walk into any AMP and save the money.

  14. #16105

    Pricey

    Quote Originally Posted by OhioPolock  [View Original Post]
    He stated this was before the tip so I assume it is just for the massage. And I too would say 90 for 60 min is pricey.
    Definitely pricey especially when it's before tip and for HE only, and I say that as someone who thinks Lynn has excellent massage skills and technique. Not worth it at the upgraded prices imo. It would be funny if us hyping her up led to these higher prices haha.

  15. #16104

    Pricey

    He stated this was before the tip so I assume it is just for the massage. And I too would say 90 for 60 min is pricey.

    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestDude  [View Original Post]
    That is no where near "pricey". What do you get for that?

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