General Reports

[TheIceGuy]

Howdy! Just my 2 cents on the scene, first, it's a felony to pay for sex here, so don't pay for sex. Paying for their time I think is ok. Welcome to NC! This law is still new, so we are all figuring out how it shakes down, just an FYI. As far as AMPs go, most are Asian, and there are a lot of them. There is also a good bit of "American" spas, as in they typically have black, white, Latinas, and some Asians. Standard half hour rate is 60 and 80 for the hour. The hour gets you the shower and a longer rubdown (incase yalls AMPs are different in Boston? HAHA). For me, I'm not going to an Asian AMP for a HJ, its typically for other things. That can run you from 140-200 depending, if you want upgrades such as BBFS / rimming etc then add on more. The age range used to be late 30's-50's, but now there is a shift with the newer spas and younger ladies are showing up. The American AMPs are widely different and as varied as the women, some are run down, some are expensive, and some are middle of the road (and yes I mean both the ladies AND the buildings). Standard half hour / hour apply, 60/80. FS is an option at some spas but not others, I won't go into a breakdown of them now though, the above should get you started.

Also, as an FYI, this board is not as friendly as it used to be (and for good reasons). I would say, read the posts going back for at least 2-3 months, that should get you some good intel and a sense of the mongers on here, answer a lot of your questions, and keep you from asking questions that will cause the board to reply with RTFF. Report your experiences (with as little / much detail as you feel comfortable with) and build some cred then the mongers will open up to you.

Haha yea for sure. Boston is not much different regarding the forum, so I was a bit nervous to even ask. I assume it's fairly similar everywhere as a lot of new people come in and ask for spots but don't contribute and such. I understand totally. I appreciate you taking the time out to answer my questions.

Regarding a few things, definitely no paying for anything like that Just paying for a massage or company.

I do have a follow up, though. You mention showers. Is that common? I'd love to find a place that does a nice luxury spa treatment with full blown shower / table shower, and with soap and stuff that sounds amazing. Up here, you can find the occasional place that claims table shower but I've literally never seen one and have visited at least 25 different spots. So if that is a common thing down there, it may convince me to move for that alone (with or without extras haha. Sometimes a dude wants to be pampered once in a while).

[Bouinage]

Hey guys, not sure where this should go, so slapping it in general!

I am outside of Boston right now but strongly considering moving to the area (just outside of Charlotte). I was just wondering, how is the overall scene here?

Here are a few questions hopefully you all can help with!

- I see massage parlor forum is pretty active. I'm going to assume that's like everywhere else and mostly AMP?

- If so, what are rough ballpark rates? Here it's $40 for hhr session (sometimes $60) and a standard finish can be $40-$60 as well. Some haggle for higher.

- Is FS fairly common or a rare thing? Again, here it's hit or miss depending on the area. Busier areas tend to be more competitive and offer more. If so, prices scale normally or do they get crazy with FS rates (ie we looking at like $- or are they insane?

- How is the non Asian scene?

Alright I won't overload with questions, just basics to try and get a feel before moving down.

Howdy! Just my 2 cents on the scene, first, it's a felony to pay for sex here, so don't pay for sex. Paying for their time I think is ok. Welcome to NC! This law is still new, so we are all figuring out how it shakes down, just an FYI. As far as AMPs go, most are Asian, and there are a lot of them. There is also a good bit of "American" spas, as in they typically have black, white, Latinas, and some Asians. Standard half hour rate is 60 and 80 for the hour. The hour gets you the shower and a longer rubdown (incase yalls AMPs are different in Boston? HAHA). For me, I'm not going to an Asian AMP for a HJ, its typically for other things. That can run you from 140-200 depending, if you want upgrades such as BBFS / rimming etc then add on more. The age range used to be late 30's-50's, but now there is a shift with the newer spas and younger ladies are showing up. The American AMPs are widely different and as varied as the women, some are run down, some are expensive, and some are middle of the road (and yes I mean both the ladies AND the buildings). Standard half hour / hour apply, 60/80. FS is an option at some spas but not others, I won't go into a breakdown of them now though, the above should get you started.

Also, as an FYI, this board is not as friendly as it used to be (and for good reasons). I would say, read the posts going back for at least 2-3 months, that should get you some good intel and a sense of the mongers on here, answer a lot of your questions, and keep you from asking questions that will cause the board to reply with RTFF. Report your experiences (with as little / much detail as you feel comfortable with) and build some cred then the mongers will open up to you.

[TheIceGuy]

Hey guys, not sure where this should go, so slapping it in general!

I am outside of Boston right now but strongly considering moving to the area (just outside of Charlotte). I was just wondering, how is the overall scene here?

Here are a few questions hopefully you all can help with!

- I see massage parlor forum is pretty active. I'm going to assume that's like everywhere else and mostly AMP?

- If so, what are rough ballpark rates? Here it's $40 for hhr session (sometimes $60) and a standard finish can be $40-$60 as well. Some haggle for higher.

- Is FS fairly common or a rare thing? Again, here it's hit or miss depending on the area. Busier areas tend to be more competitive and offer more. If so, prices scale normally or do they get crazy with FS rates (ie we looking at like $- or are they insane?

- How is the non Asian scene?

Alright I won't overload with questions, just basics to try and get a feel before moving down.

[Bouinage]

And tell me a girl who actually, ACTUALLY, likes doing this so much so they really get off on it. Most just lay there till you're done then they rush you out the door.

I think that there are a very few who do, but as always with the hobby, YMMV. Some people vibe and others don't.

[Make Em Come]

And tell me a girl who actually, ACTUALLY, likes doing this so much so they really get off on it. Most just lay there till you're done then they rush you out the door.

I feel like there's quite a few who enjoy sex. It's lovely when you get your breathing in sync with the provider during the act. Lead with your heart, not your head.

If there is no click move on. Either way end of the day yes, get your clothes on and go home lolol.

[FourthTwin]

I feel ya, but I think you answered your own question! Alot of these girls ARE on drugs, that's why they can do this. Very few approach it as a professional. I think they are charging that because they can fet away with it. I still see ladies that offer 40,80, 120 services. Are they hot 20 somethings, no LOL. Average for me is 200 now, but more and more see it going to 300 especially if you want something special. When I start to feel they way you do, I take a break from mongering or go monger in a foreign country. I recognize that you're blowing off steam, and feel your pain. I've also decided to cut back on the amount of ladies I see and save up to see higher end ladies. Recently saw a regular, who also raised her rates, and her kitty smelled like burnt rubber. Between the new law, hygiene and the communication issues, takes the fun out of the hobby.

And tell me a girl who actually, ACTUALLY, likes doing this so much so they really get off on it. Most just lay there till you're done then they rush you out the door.

[FourthTwin]

I guess their pharmacy needs are more expensive today? When you say 3 digits I guess you mean 4? It is hard to get anything under 100 anymore.

Actually, there are some providers who will do less than $100 but those are the ones who are either old or fat. Your candy habit is not my problem so if you have to see 5 clients a day to get your required amt for your fix so be it. But don't jack your price up so that you only have to see 1 client a day to get your fix. And these girls think their stuff is the best in town. I've dated a number of girls in my life and I've seen enough providers. I have yet to meet anyone who's cooch is laced with gold or platinum or has fireworks shooting out of it. So yours isn't that special. It's just different from what most guys are getting.

[Bouinage]

I've been a long time monger for years but in the past few years I've noticed a trend with a lot of these girls. Is it me or are many of you noticing that a lot of these girls are charging more and more but are now doing less and less? It use to be years ago that you could get everything you wanted for like $. 8. And that meant everything, BBFSCIP. I guess even then I'd not be happy paying that much but you knew the girls would work for that fee. Yeah, I know the cost of everything has gone up but does that also mean the cost of descent cooch? Most girls these days won't even talk to you if you have less than 3 digits and then when they do you end up with some very over weight girl or someone too old to still be doing this. I guess there's still a market for the older sect but I'm not interested in anyone my age much less older. I want something young and firm. Again, years ago you log into any of the regular sites and the girls were always new and updated. Now, I am seeing the same ones day after day, week after week. And the new ones you see appear to be fake ads to me. And as far as price goes let me say this. To the guys who are overpaying these girls to jump to the head of the line, STOP IT! I've contacted a lot of girls in the past few days and the majority of them want $100+ to do full covered everything. No BBBJ, no DATY, nothing. If you have the funds to spend more than the going rate consider that once you give a girl $120+ or more then she feels that she is now worth that much. No sweetie, that guy just offered and paid you that much so you would select him first and not go with another monger. And I've mentioned this before, if a girl wants 3+ digits and she doesn't have a room OR she's in some of the rattiest, nastiest, hotels or areas of town stay away. You runt he risk of getting jumped, robbed, or set up. And please, if a girl wants 3+ digits and can only do carplay re-evaluate that decision. And my last pet peeve is when you hit up a girl, no, I don't expect immediate response but I do expect a response THAT DAY. Yeah, I know these girls are probably getting texts back to back but what bothers me is when they reply, they stop replying for like an hour or two. I've hit some providers up one day and we exchange a few msgs then crickets. A lot of the the time theyh'll hit me up the next day or even the day after that like I'm still looking to meet up with them. After a day if I've not heard from you I delete that text chain and keep it pushing. When you hit a guy up the next day and he asks for a pic cause he doesn't remember you it ticks me off when they either won't send one or they charge you for it. Look, you posted multiple pics on your ad to get noticed, I don't think it's going to hurt you to send just one of the pics from your ad.

I've never been a streetwalker person for fear of getting caught up in a sting or something like that but I've seriously been thinking about giving that a try. I just don't like riding around cruising an area multiple times with the hopes of trying to get someone's attention. Yeah, I know what areas there are but I haven't worked up the nerve yet to even approach a girl and ask her if she needs a ride or anything. For those who do partake in that realm tell me the best way to do it without coming across like a perv.

Is it just me?

I feel ya, but I think you answered your own question! Alot of these girls ARE on drugs, that's why they can do this. Very few approach it as a professional. I think they are charging that because they can fet away with it. I still see ladies that offer 40,80, 120 services. Are they hot 20 somethings, no LOL. Average for me is 200 now, but more and more see it going to 300 especially if you want something special. When I start to feel they way you do, I take a break from mongering or go monger in a foreign country. I recognize that you're blowing off steam, and feel your pain. I've also decided to cut back on the amount of ladies I see and save up to see higher end ladies. Recently saw a regular, who also raised her rates, and her kitty smelled like burnt rubber. Between the new law, hygiene and the communication issues, takes the fun out of the hobby.

[NC Transplant]

I guess their pharmacy needs are more expensive today? When you say 3 digits I guess you mean 4? It is hard to get anything under 100 anymore.

I find it funny, as you say, those Bill Gates guys are trolling these sites looking for cheap cooch. If they have it like that then they need to go on some of the more high class sites where there girls aren't looking to service 5 or 6 guys a day. 1 or 2 will be their quota because those are the girls making $500 if not more per client. Not everyone can afford to drop 3 digits for a 15 minute or 30 minute romp. And yeah, I understand that these girls have lives and things but if this is the line of business you choose to be in then find you a few regulars and stop posting. Only post when you don't have the funds. I know you can't respond to everyone but if you didn't respond to a text today don't just randomly hit a guy up tomorrow like he's still looking. You aren't that special. You are selling sex, pussy. You're not there to romance a guy nor are you there to date him. Your function, and if I'm wrong sue me, is to get the guy off because he paid your price. Yes, these girls go about their day with GPS like they are the only ones with a wet warm hole.

[FourthTwin]

Preach it brother. When I brought up the overpaying thing a few years ago, some of these Bill Gates guys would come back and say it was their money and they would spend it how they please. Now just about all these girls have GPS. I had one girl tell me a couple of months ago that she gets 80 texts a day. When I asked her how many of those texts she actually sees and she said 4. It is getting ridiculous these days. We need a recession so the girls need the money and the guys don't have so much to throw around.

I tried the street walker thing when I moved here 20 years ago and the girls were so dirty and nasty then I gave it up. It just seemed too dangerous to me.

I find it funny, as you say, those Bill Gates guys are trolling these sites looking for cheap cooch. If they have it like that then they need to go on some of the more high class sites where there girls aren't looking to service 5 or 6 guys a day. 1 or 2 will be their quota because those are the girls making $500 if not more per client. Not everyone can afford to drop 3 digits for a 15 minute or 30 minute romp. And yeah, I understand that these girls have lives and things but if this is the line of business you choose to be in then find you a few regulars and stop posting. Only post when you don't have the funds. I know you can't respond to everyone but if you didn't respond to a text today don't just randomly hit a guy up tomorrow like he's still looking. You aren't that special. You are selling sex, pussy. You're not there to romance a guy nor are you there to date him. Your function, and if I'm wrong sue me, is to get the guy off because he paid your price. Yes, these girls go about their day with GPS like they are the only ones with a wet warm hole.

[NC Transplant]

Preach it brother. When I brought up the overpaying thing a few years ago, some of these Bill Gates guys would come back and say it was their money and they would spend it how they please. Now just about all these girls have GPS. I had one girl tell me a couple of months ago that she gets 80 texts a day. When I asked her how many of those texts she actually sees and she said 4. It is getting ridiculous these days. We need a recession so the girls need the money and the guys don't have so much to throw around.

I tried the street walker thing when I moved here 20 years ago and the girls were so dirty and nasty then I gave it up. It just seemed too dangerous to me.

I've been a long time monger for years but in the past few years I've noticed a trend with a lot of these girls. Is it me or are many of you noticing that a lot of these girls are charging more and more but are now doing less and less? It use to be years ago that you could get everything you wanted for like $. 8. And that meant everything, BBFSCIP. I guess even then I'd not be happy paying that much but you knew the girls would work for that fee. Yeah, I know the cost of everything has gone up but does that also mean the cost of descent cooch? Most girls these days won't even talk to you if you have less than 3 digits and then when they do you end up with some very over weight girl or someone too old to still be doing this. I guess there's still a market for the older sect but I'm not interested in anyone my age much less older. I want something young and firm. Again, years ago you log into any of the regular sites and the girls were always new and updated. Now, I am seeing the same ones day after day, week after week. And the new ones you see appear to be fake ads to me. And as far as price goes let me say this. To the guys who are overpaying these girls to jump to the head of the line, STOP IT! I've contacted a lot of girls in the past few days and the majority of them want $100+ to do full covered everything. No BBBJ, no DATY, nothing. If you have the funds to spend more than the going rate consider that once you give a girl $120+ or more then she feels that she is now worth that much. No sweetie, that guy just offered and paid you that much so you would select him first and not go with another monger. And I've mentioned this before, if a girl wants 3+ digits and she doesn't have a room OR she's in some of the rattiest, nastiest, hotels or areas of town stay away. You runt he risk of getting jumped, robbed, or set up. And please, if a girl wants 3+ digits and can only do carplay re-evaluate that decision. And my last pet peeve is when you hit up a girl, no, I don't expect immediate response but I do expect a response THAT DAY. Yeah, I know these girls are probably getting texts back to back but what bothers me is when they reply, they stop replying for like an hour or two. I've hit some providers up one day and we exchange a few msgs then crickets. A lot of the the time theyh'll hit me up the next day or even the day after that like I'm still looking to meet up with them. After a day if I've not heard from you I delete that text chain and keep it pushing. When you hit a guy up the next day and he asks for a pic cause he doesn't remember you it ticks me off when they either won't send one or they charge you for it. Look, you posted multiple pics on your ad to get noticed, I don't think it's going to hurt you to send just one of the pics from your ad.

I've never been a streetwalker person for fear of getting caught up in a sting or something like that but I've seriously been thinking about giving that a try. I just don't like riding around cruising an area multiple times with the hopes of trying to get someone's attention. Yeah, I know what areas there are but I haven't worked up the nerve yet to even approach a girl and ask her if she needs a ride or anything. For those who do partake in that realm tell me the best way to do it without coming across like a perv.

Is it just me?

[FourthTwin]

I've been a long time monger for years but in the past few years I've noticed a trend with a lot of these girls. Is it me or are many of you noticing that a lot of these girls are charging more and more but are now doing less and less? It use to be years ago that you could get everything you wanted for like $. 8. And that meant everything, BBFSCIP. I guess even then I'd not be happy paying that much but you knew the girls would work for that fee. Yeah, I know the cost of everything has gone up but does that also mean the cost of descent cooch? Most girls these days won't even talk to you if you have less than 3 digits and then when they do you end up with some very over weight girl or someone too old to still be doing this. I guess there's still a market for the older sect but I'm not interested in anyone my age much less older. I want something young and firm. Again, years ago you log into any of the regular sites and the girls were always new and updated. Now, I am seeing the same ones day after day, week after week. And the new ones you see appear to be fake ads to me. And as far as price goes let me say this. To the guys who are overpaying these girls to jump to the head of the line, STOP IT! I've contacted a lot of girls in the past few days and the majority of them want $100+ to do full covered everything. No BBBJ, no DATY, nothing. If you have the funds to spend more than the going rate consider that once you give a girl $120+ or more then she feels that she is now worth that much. No sweetie, that guy just offered and paid you that much so you would select him first and not go with another monger. And I've mentioned this before, if a girl wants 3+ digits and she doesn't have a room OR she's in some of the rattiest, nastiest, hotels or areas of town stay away. You runt he risk of getting jumped, robbed, or set up. And please, if a girl wants 3+ digits and can only do carplay re-evaluate that decision. And my last pet peeve is when you hit up a girl, no, I don't expect immediate response but I do expect a response THAT DAY. Yeah, I know these girls are probably getting texts back to back but what bothers me is when they reply, they stop replying for like an hour or two. I've hit some providers up one day and we exchange a few msgs then crickets. A lot of the the time theyh'll hit me up the next day or even the day after that like I'm still looking to meet up with them. After a day if I've not heard from you I delete that text chain and keep it pushing. When you hit a guy up the next day and he asks for a pic cause he doesn't remember you it ticks me off when they either won't send one or they charge you for it. Look, you posted multiple pics on your ad to get noticed, I don't think it's going to hurt you to send just one of the pics from your ad.

I've never been a streetwalker person for fear of getting caught up in a sting or something like that but I've seriously been thinking about giving that a try. I just don't like riding around cruising an area multiple times with the hopes of trying to get someone's attention. Yeah, I know what areas there are but I haven't worked up the nerve yet to even approach a girl and ask her if she needs a ride or anything. For those who do partake in that realm tell me the best way to do it without coming across like a perv.

Is it just me?

[Samiam6969]

When did the age verification "can't go past go" site filters disappear? Went to dbl x next and got through to see what I used to see. Did those thumpers get put out of office or overturned as the sites were losing too much ad revenues?

[Bouinage]

Maybe I'm looking at this completely wrong so sue me if I am. But if I make an arrangement to link up with you and you tell me where you are I immediately re-evaluate what I want to pay you. I am a born and raised Charlottean so I'm familiar with that various areas of this city. There are some areas I have no problem going into and there are some areas when you tell me I immediately think, "naw, never mind. " One such place is that run down hotel on Lucky Penny Street right off Freedom Drive. When I contact a girl and that's the address she gives me I immediately think run down girl, run down service, crack head looks, etc. You feel me? 99% of the time when I go there and pick up the girl the way she looks then is nowhere near what her pics were on her ad. Yeah, I know not every girl looks made up to the 9's when you go see them. Many have on bonnets, house shoes, probably hasn't showered since the last client or they're already strung out on something. Yeah, pussy is pussyy but let's face it. You chat with a girl and the pics on her ad make her look like Beyonce when when they open the door they look like Whoopie Goldberg you're not going to want to pay what you agreed upon, at least I'm not.

Here's my point. The other day I was chatting with a girl and she sent me a few cute pics of herself and told me she was at that very place right off Freedom Dr. What originally was going to be an outcall to my place she changed and said we could do it at the hotel. When I get there and text her I was there she then said that we couldn't do it at her place but she was still cool coming back to my place. Ok, fine. I park and tell her I'm outside. I look up at the hotel and I see a pudgy looking girl walking with what looked like an arm full of clothes. I assume that person was just going to do their laundry at the laundromat across the street. This person walks downstairs and right the the passenger side door of my truck. She looked nothing like the pics she sent me. Yeah, I should have drove off but I didn't. She gets in and we go back to my place. 5 minutes into the drive her head is laid on my window and she's sound asleep. I start feeling on her which she said was fine but she slept pretty much the entire ride back to my house. We get to my house and she leaves all her clothes and things in my truck and we go inside. This girl looks like she's been up all night seeing clients or just getting high. When she takes off her clothes and gets naked it was a bunch of flabby skin like she had lost a lot of weight recently. Breasts looked like pancakes and she literally had nothing but a flabby ass. We conduct business and I offered her a little more for BBFSCIP which she accepted. Business conducted, I take her back to the motel but she had me drop her off on the back side of it. Today I figured I'd hit her up again, already knowing what to expect, and see if I could get the same for a better negotiated price. She responds but said she would go no lower than $. 8 with no CIP. Stop me if I'm wrong but with her looks she should be happy any guy would want to hit her up and offer her anything, much less $. 8. She then tells me that she really needed her pussy ate and I countered with since you want to get ate, if I get you off and you get me off I'd do $. 6 She said no.

Needless to say I do not plan to spend my money, at least not what she's asking, on her services unless she comes with a better rate. Yeah, I know these girls set their prices for what they think they're worth but they also need to understand that you're only worth what someone is willing to pay you. You're selling pussy not trading crypto currency on the stock exchange. Am I wrong here? No, I've never picked up a streetwalker but even those girls know they can't expect $. 80 or more to climb in your back seat then be in some other guy's back seat in an hour.

Am I reading this wrong or do you guys also agree that a girl's looks play a lot into what she can / should charge?

I think looks or not, if she's a player and she thinks she is giving you something other girls are not, she is going to up her price. Or, up her price if she thinks she can get more out of you. No doubt her looks play into it. I think you should pass, you can find bbfscip with other ladies, don't fall into the convenience trap. Remember its your money and your D! I have walked away from some good looking girls offering exactly what I want but just didn't want to pay THEIR price. I mean we all have our price right? RIGHT!

[FourthTwin]

Maybe I'm looking at this completely wrong so sue me if I am. But if I make an arrangement to link up with you and you tell me where you are I immediately re-evaluate what I want to pay you. I am a born and raised Charlottean so I'm familiar with that various areas of this city. There are some areas I have no problem going into and there are some areas when you tell me I immediately think, "naw, never mind. " One such place is that run down hotel on Lucky Penny Street right off Freedom Drive. When I contact a girl and that's the address she gives me I immediately think run down girl, run down service, crack head looks, etc. You feel me? 99% of the time when I go there and pick up the girl the way she looks then is nowhere near what her pics were on her ad. Yeah, I know not every girl looks made up to the 9's when you go see them. Many have on bonnets, house shoes, probably hasn't showered since the last client or they're already strung out on something. Yeah, pussy is pussyy but let's face it. You chat with a girl and the pics on her ad make her look like Beyonce when when they open the door they look like Whoopie Goldberg you're not going to want to pay what you agreed upon, at least I'm not.

Here's my point. The other day I was chatting with a girl and she sent me a few cute pics of herself and told me she was at that very place right off Freedom Dr. What originally was going to be an outcall to my place she changed and said we could do it at the hotel. When I get there and text her I was there she then said that we couldn't do it at her place but she was still cool coming back to my place. Ok, fine. I park and tell her I'm outside. I look up at the hotel and I see a pudgy looking girl walking with what looked like an arm full of clothes. I assume that person was just going to do their laundry at the laundromat across the street. This person walks downstairs and right the the passenger side door of my truck. She looked nothing like the pics she sent me. Yeah, I should have drove off but I didn't. She gets in and we go back to my place. 5 minutes into the drive her head is laid on my window and she's sound asleep. I start feeling on her which she said was fine but she slept pretty much the entire ride back to my house. We get to my house and she leaves all her clothes and things in my truck and we go inside. This girl looks like she's been up all night seeing clients or just getting high. When she takes off her clothes and gets naked it was a bunch of flabby skin like she had lost a lot of weight recently. Breasts looked like pancakes and she literally had nothing but a flabby ass. We conduct business and I offered her a little more for BBFSCIP which she accepted. Business conducted, I take her back to the motel but she had me drop her off on the back side of it. Today I figured I'd hit her up again, already knowing what to expect, and see if I could get the same for a better negotiated price. She responds but said she would go no lower than $. 8 with no CIP. Stop me if I'm wrong but with her looks she should be happy any guy would want to hit her up and offer her anything, much less $. 8. She then tells me that she really needed her pussy ate and I countered with since you want to get ate, if I get you off and you get me off I'd do $. 6 She said no.

Needless to say I do not plan to spend my money, at least not what she's asking, on her services unless she comes with a better rate. Yeah, I know these girls set their prices for what they think they're worth but they also need to understand that you're only worth what someone is willing to pay you. You're selling pussy not trading crypto currency on the stock exchange. Am I wrong here? No, I've never picked up a streetwalker but even those girls know they can't expect $. 80 or more to climb in your back seat then be in some other guy's back seat in an hour.

Am I reading this wrong or do you guys also agree that a girl's looks play a lot into what she can / should charge?