"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**Harley32** · 02-13-26 16:33

Originally Posted by Viktor213 [View Original Post]

Never the less, ain't no talking if the SB doesn't have "John's" real name, real number, or socials.

I have NEVER given anyone my real name, number or any other traceable information. Of course, if they know my car, they can take a pic of the license plate, etc. But they're going to have to go through some trouble to identify me and I doubt many are willing to do that.

**CuriousVaMan** · 02-13-26 14:57

There's a pretty good OPSEC thread in the Northern Virginia Board. FYI.

Originally Posted by Viktor213 [View Original Post]

Married guys with something to lose (hopefully) don't move like single guys. Married guys have doctored pics, burner phones, secret bank cards and cash stashes, carefully planned calendars, and all kinds of James Bond spy shit to hide his real name and address from the SB. Hopefully that means the properly compensated SB doesn't ask a lot of questions, doesn't require public dates or outings, can be at the hotel when scheduled on a tight window, provides good service, and has to wait for contact from the married guy cause he ain't checking the burner every day. This does support the idea of the slightly more mature 30-year old SB cause she's been a side check before and is all about the bread but I digress.

Never the less, ain't no talking if the SB doesn't have "John's" real name, real number, or socials.

**Harley32** · 02-13-26 14:30

Not sure what's going on today but I just got hit with what I consider ridiculous support requests, $3-3. 5 k.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...e-bc0f8eb34d0d

Wants $3. 5 to pay her rent & car.

Tete in Atl wants $3 k. She blocked me right away so no link. Attractive but out of my comfort zone. I'll attach a pic.

**IAmHereForFun** · 02-13-26 13:53

Originally Posted by 2me4Looking2 [View Original Post]

She moves around from hotel to hotel. Others have said she isn't a pro, but that's definitely not normal.

Her ad says 43 but I'm guessing at least 53 judging by the photos? For real anyone know?

**2me4Looking2** · 02-13-26 12:08

Originally Posted by Rican2323 [View Original Post]

Yeah, I reached out to her a week ago or so. She told me that whatever hotel she was at stole all of her things and toys. So I am not sure if she is living in hotels. If she does that's a red flag for me!

She moves around from hotel to hotel. Others have said she isn't a pro, but that's definitely not normal.

**Rican2323** · 02-13-26 09:13

Originally Posted by Airmantroy [View Original Post]

She absolutly loves it. And she has toys to prove it. For a bargain ppm if you play it right.

Yeah, I reached out to her a week ago or so. She told me that whatever hotel she was at stole all of her things and toys. So I am not sure if she is living in hotels. If she does that's a red flag for me!

**Airmantroy** · 02-12-26 19:17

Originally Posted by Viktor213 [View Original Post]

Prior intel mentioned this one as an option. Have chatted with her myself and think she's legit for it.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...e-f81c0d5cb623

Safe Hunting.

She absolutly loves it. And she has toys to prove it. For a bargain ppm if you play it right.

**Viktor213** · 02-12-26 15:13

Originally Posted by Rican2323 [View Original Post]

Any of you guys have any insights to local sugar babies that are into anal? Seems all the ones that I've spoken to so far have a hard no on backdoor play.

Prior intel mentioned this one as an option. Have chatted with her myself and think she's legit for it.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...e-f81c0d5cb623

Safe Hunting.

**Viktor213** · 02-12-26 15:09

Originally Posted by 2me4Looking2 [View Original Post]

We could all move on from this convo and get back to sharing actual info on girls if everyone would just realize that we all have different criteria and stop telling people they are wrong for the amount they are paying whether it's your not paying enough or you should never pay a premium for XYZ. Different people have different motives and different resources and different tastes.

Obviously, everyone doesn't "just realize" that hence the need for the discussion. Intel isn't just about the girls it's also the price paid for the girls right? But yeah, let's move on.

**Rican2323** · 02-12-26 14:36

Any of you guys have any insights to local sugar babies that are into anal? Seems all the ones that I've spoken to so far have a hard no on backdoor play.

**2me4Looking2** · 02-12-26 10:31

We could all move on from this convo and get back to sharing actual info on girls if everyone would just realize that we all have different criteria and stop telling people they are wrong for the amount they are paying whether it's your not paying enough or you should never pay a premium for XYZ. Different people have different motives and different resources and different tastes.

**Wleakr** · 02-12-26 07:39

Originally Posted by Viktor213 [View Original Post]

Married guys with something to lose (hopefully) don't move like single guys. Married guys have doctored pics, burner phones, secret bank cards and cash stashes, carefully planned calendars, and all kinds of James Bond spy shit to hide his real name and address from the SB. Hopefully that means the properly compensated SB doesn't ask a lot of questions, doesn't require public dates or outings, can be at the hotel when scheduled on a tight window, provides good service, and has to wait for contact from the married guy cause he ain't checking the burner every day. This does support the idea of the slightly more mature 30-year old SB cause she's been a side check before and is all about the bread but I digress.

Never the less, ain't no talking if the SB doesn't have "John's" real name, real number, or socials.

All active high earners don't have the time to do all the spy stuff you suggest. Maybe some of it.

And if you are truly single, I'm doubtful there is even a need to be in the sugar bowl. Wasn't something I ever thought of while single because, as you mention, there's nothing to hide from.

So the only "single" guys we're speaking of are those with significant others and / or families they simply aren't legally married to.

In which case, they have some of the same things to lose as a married guy, especially if they meet the definition of common law marraige.

I do agree. Keep yourself anonymous and there's no issue.

**Viktor213** · 02-11-26 23:24

Originally Posted by Wleakr [View Original Post]

Ever hear of Stormy Daniels and those hush money payments?

Paid her gobs of money to be silent and still talked?

How much you pay, in and of itself, doesn't guarantee any peace of mind. If a chick wants to squawk and out you, she will do just that.

At any age.

Married guys with something to lose (hopefully) don't move like single guys. Married guys have doctored pics, burner phones, secret bank cards and cash stashes, carefully planned calendars, and all kinds of James Bond spy shit to hide his real name and address from the SB. Hopefully that means the properly compensated SB doesn't ask a lot of questions, doesn't require public dates or outings, can be at the hotel when scheduled on a tight window, provides good service, and has to wait for contact from the married guy cause he ain't checking the burner every day. This does support the idea of the slightly more mature 30-year old SB cause she's been a side check before and is all about the bread but I digress.

Never the less, ain't no talking if the SB doesn't have "John's" real name, real number, or socials.

**Wleakr** · 02-11-26 21:05

Originally Posted by Viktor213 [View Original Post]

If a guy is an attorney, doctor, or other high earner who is married and billing $300 to $500 per hour it's worth the premium to have an SB mature enough to understand the game, discrete, able to accommodate a flexible schedule, has a nice body, and hot in the sack. Notice I didn't say "easy to talk to" because that may or may not matter to some guys.

But high earner married guys have a fucking lot to lose if their hobby is found out. An extra $100 PPM on top of the normal $200 to $300 is worth every penny to have their cake and eat it too. A high earner will (not can, but will) lose hundreds of thousands in retirement, home equity, child support, and alimony if he gets caught because he saved a couple hundred per month using a young, hot but immature chick that outed him because he didn't return her text fast enough.

The game isn't about younger versus older. The game is really single guys who can survive being outed versus married guys that can't and they should pay the premium to prevent it. Yes, to paying the extra $100 ppm to prevent the alternative.

Safe Hunting.

Ever hear of Stormy Daniels and those hush money payments?

Paid her gobs of money to be silent and still talked?

How much you pay, in and of itself, doesn't guarantee any peace of mind. If a chick wants to squawk and out you, she will do just that.

At any age.

**Viktor213** · 02-11-26 18:19

Originally Posted by Airmantroy [View Original Post]

You and I do agree on and share a lot of info, we disagree on age being a determining factor for ppm, that's about the extent of it. I know from my convo's with SB's and with other guys that what they are willing to accept is NOT based on their age. But we have so many options to establish a "market" price. Listcrawler, Eros, Tryst, Models World. And you can occasionally find a gem on any one of those sites, but the odds are against you on the lower end of the scale. Some guys are in this for the variety without the potential for high volume, some are looking for a part time girlfriend they don't mind tossing a few bucks at, some are absolutely looking for a clock free escort. There's way too many guys with a huge difference in what they are looking for to generalize it to a specific range of numbers. My general rule is 300-400 depending on if they can host, boundaries that have been discussed, availability during the times I can escape life easily. I can determine if the girl is a wannabe escort with the title in less than 6 text messages on most encounters, I don't really care if that's what she wants, as long as there is no timer ticking down and she checks the boxes I look for.

If a guy is an attorney, doctor, or other high earner who is married and billing $300 to $500 per hour it's worth the premium to have an SB mature enough to understand the game, discrete, able to accommodate a flexible schedule, has a nice body, and hot in the sack. Notice I didn't say "easy to talk to" because that may or may not matter to some guys.

But high earner married guys have a fucking lot to lose if their hobby is found out. An extra $100 PPM on top of the normal $200 to $300 is worth every penny to have their cake and eat it too. A high earner will (not can, but will) lose hundreds of thousands in retirement, home equity, child support, and alimony if he gets caught because he saved a couple hundred per month using a young, hot but immature chick that outed him because he didn't return her text fast enough.

The game isn't about younger versus older. The game is really single guys who can survive being outed versus married guys that can't and they should pay the premium to prevent it. Yes, to paying the extra $100 ppm to prevent the alternative.

Safe Hunting.