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  1. #25319
    Quote Originally Posted by FaslFasl  [View Original Post]
    My journey with doing this has been a learning process. After understanding the providers and how they operate, stack against each other, etc. , I have adapted my mentality and approach. A big part of doing this for me is variety. There is a thrill to sticking it in someone new, so I am always browsing the sites for something that looks good, but I've developed a sense of the type of provider they are from their ad and first interactions. Info about them on this board, when available, helps add more details. I am still picky about what I like and will pay for. For instance, I'm not going to pay for the type of woman looks wise, that I can find at any bar that would actually be happy she's going home with me. But providers are now in pretty much a 3-teir system for me. There's the regular hoe, the above average, and the upscale hoe.

    The regular hoe, which is probably 80 percent of what's on the sites, is usually this.
    Sugar sites were fun till my daughter's friends found my profile!

    Seeking was the best for me over AFF. Similar experience to FASL. Some girls are young and naive. I prefer them a bit older and a bit of experience. Lots of options, but expect more of a dating experience. Good and bad based on what you're looking for. Definitely get several hours of fun for $200-$300 plus maybe dinner, but plan to host much of the time!

    Jdog.

  2. #25318
    What sugar dating sites or apps do you use?

    Quote Originally Posted by FaslFasl  [View Original Post]
    My journey with doing this has been a learning process. After understanding the providers and how they operate, stack against each other, etc. , I have adapted my mentality and approach. A big part of doing this for me is variety. There is a thrill to sticking it in someone new, so I am always browsing the sites for something that looks good, but I've developed a sense of the type of provider they are from their ad and first interactions. Info about them on this board, when available, helps add more details. I am still picky about what I like and will pay for. For instance, I'm not going to pay for the type of woman looks wise, that I can find at any bar that would actually be happy she's going home with me. But providers are now in pretty much a 3-teir system for me.

  3. #25317
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    Posts: 105

    Kiss your $$$ goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Darwin2000  [View Original Post]
    This seems TGTBT but hope springs eternal. Has anyone seen Elizabeth? She has a 616 number.

    https://tryst.link/escort/elizabeth-69
    Give her the deposit and let us know how it goes.

  4. #25316

    Better options

    Quote Originally Posted by BeanLicker  [View Original Post]
    250 for a half hour in GR is wild. If people don't pay it they will stop charging it. Yes that includes everyone, including CJ. There are good providers who charge less maybe not your body type though. I have generally ignored spinners due to association with drug use and other issues. Paying these rates makes others think they can charge the same, they talk more than you think. Everyone is different but I haven't had problems with options paying $150 to fuck.
    My journey with doing this has been a learning process. After understanding the providers and how they operate, stack against each other, etc. , I have adapted my mentality and approach. A big part of doing this for me is variety. There is a thrill to sticking it in someone new, so I am always browsing the sites for something that looks good, but I've developed a sense of the type of provider they are from their ad and first interactions. Info about them on this board, when available, helps add more details. I am still picky about what I like and will pay for. For instance, I'm not going to pay for the type of woman looks wise, that I can find at any bar that would actually be happy she's going home with me. But providers are now in pretty much a 3-teir system for me. There's the regular hoe, the above average, and the upscale hoe.

    The regular hoe, which is probably 80 percent of what's on the sites, is usually this:

    - High volume. You're probably passing the guy before or after you, whether you know if or not.
    - Lucky if she looks close to the pictures.
    - Communication is spotty to non-existent.
    - More ghosting than Casper.
    - Probably on something and you're just her next hit.
    - Most certainly has a pimp.
    - In a different super low budget motel every time you reach out to her.
    - Probably living in the motel.
    - Usually posting and available when they wake in the afternoon until they go to sleep early the next morning.
    - Not above robbing you if she gets the chance, no matter how many times you've seen her.
    - Don't expect her to have makeup on like in her pictures.

    For these, I will look for the diamond in the rough, and I have found a few, but I will usually only do QV / SS and I'll pay 80-100,120 at the most if she seems worth it. If it doesn't work for her, next!

    These are the majority of women the guys on here are seeing and talking about and I absolutely agree they need to stop overpaying for them.

    The above average hoe:

    - Some of the woman on Mega or STG, but usually on Tryst or similar.
    - Usually independent.
    - Less volume.
    - Pictures are more accurate.
    - Communication is better and appointments honored more.
    - They provide a better experience, not just a hole.
    - Nicer hotels, AirBNB, or private residence.
    - Usually has a life outside this and aren't going to be available at 3 AM.
    - More likely to enjoy what they do.
    - Higher chance they actually showered before seeing you and not just lying to you about being in the shower when you get there because she still has the guy before you's dick in her.
    - 50/50 chance of makeup and lingerie.

    For these, which I don't frequent as much as I use to, and I'll explain why in a minute. I'm more likely to do HHR / HR with them. I would expect to pay 150-200/200-300 for that. I have splurged up to the 400 range on this one but rarely, and for an 8-10. Women in this category is someone like CJ, or hotter Tryst girls.

    The upscale hoe:

    - Hot as fuck! Like model hot.
    - Some of the actually hotter women on Tryst, Eros, etc.
    - Independent or Agency.
    - Usually professional and accurate pictures.
    - Very low volume. It's possible you're the only person she may be seeing that day.
    - Your doctor is more likely to cancel your appointment than one of these providers.
    - Usually requires advanced booking.
    - May require real identity screening and deposits.
    - Guaranteed to have showered and put on makeup / outfit before seeing you.

    For these, I usually would expect to book at least an hour. Most of them don't do anything less. I would expect to pay 400-1000 for that hour, depending on how hot or delusional the women is. I don't do these at all. Partly because of the verification usually required, but mostly because there are better options for less money.

    So what I find myself doing now is skipping anything more than the regular hoes for the quick fix. They are good for that, keep the budget inline, and there are so many of them. If I'm looking for the higher experience, I have found that finding a few sugar babies is much better than the other 2 options I listed. Both for cost and experience. You have to weed through a little bit of the delusional sugar babies who think sane men are going to give them ridiculous amounts of money to do nothing, or the bare minimum, and actual working girls on those sites. Those are not that hard to spot. But the real sugar babies know the deal and it doesn't take a lot of effort to get something established paying them a ppm every time you meet. They are seeing a handful of guys, if not just you. They are less fake and you can make actual connections with them, which turns into better experiences. Currently, I am mainly seeing 2 women, who I go to instead of the above average hoes or the crazy high ones. I pay both of them 250. One is a nice looking fit women in her 40's who I have a very good connection with and she reaches out between meets to actually check up on me and chat about things in our lives, not just to get me to come see her. When we do meet, we're spending 2-4 passion filled hours with real GFE and letting me do pretty much whatever I want to her. She's never even hinted at me having to leave unless her kid was about to come home. I'm usually the one having to leave. It's obvious how much she enjoys it too. But once we part ways, it's until the next time we see each other. She knows the deal. The other one is a pretty little 20 something with daddy issues. You can tell she loves the dynamic because she's the one that steered me more and more into it. Pretty with a gorgeous body that she lets me use and abuse. I'm talking those SUPER sloppy blowjobs you see in porn with her gagging on it as I shove it all the way in and so much spit I have to wipe it off as she opens her mouth for more. She's a freak!

    These are experiences I would never get from the normal escorts, and definitely not for that long for that much. I just do not see the value in those other tiers anymore. For a minute, I was actually over committing myself with the sugar babies and trying to juggle how I was going to see them all. I had to cut that back, but new ones show up every day when I need to look again.

    So the moral of the story is don't overpay for shitty / basic service and experiences, and think outside the box for the other ones until they realize they need to align their offering and price better too.

    Edit:

    An honorable mention is the Korean/Asian agencies. I've seen a couple of girls from those in the bigger cities like L.A. and Chicago. The girls are usually on the upscale hoe hotness level, at the above average hoe price point. I will definitely continue to visit them because you get the best of 3 worlds I think. Easy, no leg work setup, Model like women, and decent price.

  5. #25315

    You missed the point

    Quote Originally Posted by JDog517  [View Original Post]
    Recently getting back in the game. Totally appreciate the board helping out with getting back in the hobby and great advice! I am definitely willing to pay $200 to $250 for a high quality provider as I am low volume as well. Quality over quantity.

    I saw Neveah a few weeks ago. Super cute face, definitely kept the focus on keeping me happy. A little baby damage, but everything felt safe and covered. She did have the clock set ahead so felt shorted on time. $$. 4 for 1 hr, will repeat.

    https://skipthegames.com/posts/allen...r/416477852618

    Saw Crystal recently as well. Really sweet lady. Good comms and great personality. Safe incall hotel. Great effort and delivered a strong performance. A bit heavier than her pictures would suggest. Really made an attempt to keep things relaxed and to keep me happy. While we clicked, it felt more friend level. Next time won't ask for GFE. Won't repeat at $$. 5 for 30 min.

    https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand...n/068110185319

    Saw Vivian Sinn and pretty sketch. Shorted on time and seemed to be tweaking on something. Might have a candy issue there. Use caution and keep things wrapped up!

    https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand...e/112977714559

    If there are some young spinners or cute latinas out there let me know!

    Jdog.
    250 for a half hour in GR is wild. If people don't pay it they will stop charging it. Yes that includes everyone, including CJ. There are good providers who charge less maybe not your body type though. I have generally ignored spinners due to association with drug use and other issues. Paying these rates makes others think they can charge the same, they talk more than you think. Everyone is different but I haven't had problems with options paying $150 to fuck.

  6. #25314

    Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkJay68  [View Original Post]
    Complete BS, sorry for the post.
    Reaching out to get more info from this one. What makes you say waste of time? Fake pics?

    Jdog.

  7. #25313

    Good help is hard to find

    Quote Originally Posted by BeanLicker  [View Original Post]
    $200 a day is 6 grand a month cash. Before anyone says well it's not every day they work and there's this and that just put it into perspective. Providers aren't rich or ahead on any bills. They are lazy and hope you will overpay so they can see less people, work less, and do less. Almost every provider raises their rates thinking they are in demand or worth it and if people pay it then it doesn't change. Many of these providers lower their rates or offer specials because they have no money and people stop coming. They aren't specials at all.

    Always good to have a go to when that little head wants to win. I see Jezebel for $150 and Mandy for $100-120 and those are the rates everyone pays. I like a little variety and hit the MP as well but having several reliable and fun providers for $150 or less tells me anyone charging more really isn't worth it.
    Recently getting back in the game. Totally appreciate the board helping out with getting back in the hobby and great advice! I am definitely willing to pay $200 to $250 for a high quality provider as I am low volume as well. Quality over quantity.

    I saw Neveah a few weeks ago. Super cute face, definitely kept the focus on keeping me happy. A little baby damage, but everything felt safe and covered. She did have the clock set ahead so felt shorted on time. $$. 4 for 1 hr, will repeat.

    https://skipthegames.com/posts/allen...r/416477852618

    Saw Crystal recently as well. Really sweet lady. Good comms and great personality. Safe incall hotel. Great effort and delivered a strong performance. A bit heavier than her pictures would suggest. Really made an attempt to keep things relaxed and to keep me happy. While we clicked, it felt more friend level. Next time won't ask for GFE. Won't repeat at $$. 5 for 30 min.

    https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand...n/068110185319

    Saw Vivian Sinn and pretty sketch. Shorted on time and seemed to be tweaking on something. Might have a candy issue there. Use caution and keep things wrapped up!

    https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand...e/112977714559

    If there are some young spinners or cute latinas out there let me know!

    Jdog.

  8. #25312

    $200 a day

    Quote Originally Posted by GRDiver  [View Original Post]
    QV used to be 60,80, maybe 100 but man people aren't thinking with their big heads and pay these outrageous donations.

    She's great and I don't partake in her BBFS but she does a great job with everything else so she is worth it however as a regular I am not paying anywhere close to 200.

    If you have the cash to do so more power to you but my finance brain won't let me spend that much for 15 minutes!

    I have a way better ROI with my SBs at that price point LOL.
    $200 a day is 6 grand a month cash. Before anyone says well it's not every day they work and there's this and that just put it into perspective. Providers aren't rich or ahead on any bills. They are lazy and hope you will overpay so they can see less people, work less, and do less. Almost every provider raises their rates thinking they are in demand or worth it and if people pay it then it doesn't change. Many of these providers lower their rates or offer specials because they have no money and people stop coming. They aren't specials at all.

    Always good to have a go to when that little head wants to win. I see Jezebel for $150 and Mandy for $100-120 and those are the rates everyone pays. I like a little variety and hit the MP as well but having several reliable and fun providers for $150 or less tells me anyone charging more really isn't worth it.

  9. #25311

    Sorry

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkJay68  [View Original Post]
    Looking for some intel if anyone has visited.

    https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand...t/576113824315
    Complete BS, sorry for the post.

  10. #25310
    Quote Originally Posted by BeanLicker  [View Original Post]
    BBFS maybe but a blow job idk. She quoted me much less last week problem is she is either super chatty on text or goes silent quickly. Like others she has said she doesn't really rush you out and tends to take longer than the time you paid for so I wonder if she's charging more for SS knowing it will go longer. Not a fan of pancake tits and glad she posted new ones in her ad as it saves me time and money in the future. Can't speak for all guys but there's not a soul I would pay $200 to see for a quick fuck in GR.

    https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand...i/272071432811
    QV used to be 60,80, maybe 100 but man people aren't thinking with their big heads and pay these outrageous donations.

    She's great and I don't partake in her BBFS but she does a great job with everything else so she is worth it however as a regular I am not paying anywhere close to 200.

    If you have the cash to do so more power to you but my finance brain won't let me spend that much for 15 minutes!

    I have a way better ROI with my SBs at that price point LOL.

  11. #25309
    Quote Originally Posted by WaltK  [View Original Post]
    "A Deposit is Always Required" pretty safe bet this supermodel isn't selling pussy in GR.
    Deposits are a joke and anyone who pays them are just foolish especially if they are to fake ads or out of town providers.

    Also at those price points on Tryst you're easily paying 150+ to 500+ on some of the "high end" providers. All they have to have is one sucker pay that deposit and they've made more than a minimum wage person makes in a day. Don't pay deposits!

  12. #25308

    Anyone contact her

    Looking for some intel if anyone has visited.

    https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand...t/576113824315

  13. #25307

    Minor?

    Made contact with her and she told me she is not the woman in the ad and that she is a minor. I have reported the post to admin. I won't make contact again and I wouldn't think anyone else would want that hassle either. Be safe gentleman. JK.
    https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/female-escorts/dont-contact-me-unless-you-act/525386215474

  14. #25306
    Senior Member


    Posts: 428
    Quote Originally Posted by Darwin2000  [View Original Post]
    This seems TGTBT but hope springs eternal. Has anyone seen Elizabeth? She has a 616 number.

    https://tryst.link/escort/elizabeth-69
    "A Deposit is Always Required" pretty safe bet this supermodel isn't selling pussy in GR.

  15. #25305

    Elizabeth

    Quote Originally Posted by Darwin2000  [View Original Post]
    This seems TGTBT but hope springs eternal. Has anyone seen Elizabeth? She has a 616 number.

    https://tryst.link/escort/elizabeth-69
    At $350/ hr I would consider that a damn good deal!

    Play safe!

    Shaw.

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