Escort Reports

[JxFactor]

Didn't realize we had a number of Economists in the group! I agree with you all. Stop overpaying! I have a top limit for the 1st meet and negotiate as well. Definitely works better after the 1st visit and you've established yourself as a good and proven client. Love the Bird in the hand negotiation tactic for the 1st meet. Will definitely be using that going forward.

Thanks for everyone's insight!

Yup, when I first started I paid whatever to try out different providers and see what I like / don't like etc. I only do Qvs so my max is $120 for the PERFECT provider, BBBJ is required. Real easy to say no once you've experienced all the bs these women will put you through if you allow them.

[Sugar Daddy PDX]

Did a search and returned nothing.

Anyone got any Intel on this one? Posts a lot, looks TGTBT. All holes open, no condom. Normally a sign of a SCAM or a Nympho.

Wanting to try to pull the trigger, but doing homework 1st!

https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/6563332531/1

Johnnie Cox, from across the Bay in St Pete.

Every thing about this ad has red flags all over it. No doubt its a scammer. A few texts, and you'll likely get the "Send $40 to confirm appointment. " nonsense.

[Slim3118]

My most reliable, hottest, and affordable provider is a Latina. However, there is no "chase" with her. I can contact her anytime and she'll be ready to host within 30 minutes of me contacting. A lot of us guys like the thrill of the hunt. Perhaps Cards8 was just thrilled to have finally make a date with her. Kat has been on the radar of many as well but nearly impossible to nail down.

A lot of the Latina ones are usually the worst. And when they counter high prices and are resistant to lowering, I'll tell them good luck with that.

[StpaMonger]

The "all holes open BBFS bbj greek" etc all feels like a scam. Not uncle but a "givr me $50 to confirm " low grade nonsense. I suppose shoot a message and see what she ("she") says. Could be legit but it's too transparent to be legit in my eyes.

Did a search and returned nothing.

Anyone got any Intel on this one? Posts a lot, looks TGTBT. All holes open, no condom. Normally a sign of a SCAM or a Nympho.

Wanting to try to pull the trigger, but doing homework 1st!

https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/6563332531/1

Johnnie Cox, from across the Bay in St Pete.

[FeedEmNutz]

If anyone recognizes this one can you let me know if she took a trip to see her uncle? Please DM me. Thanks.

[FeedEmNutz]

Excellent points. Her being sick probably ruined the mood more than anything.

Man I'm sure her being sick played a part, but what I'm guessing is you through out roses for an experience that didn't meet your expectations. I'm nobody fella, but my experience has been that my best dates usually are with providers that I'm not flowering out the pedals for. These are steamy dates based on two people that know and trust each other and over time have developed a bond that includes a certain level of chemistry. I've had very few one hitter quit its that make my top 20. If a chic digs you, based on you or your garden offerings (her motive doesn't matter), you are going to get increasingly better service. Once the relationship is established, the flowerly rate doesn't usually change regardless of services provided.

Again. So many layers to this subject matter, but while playing the game I always stand firm on what I believe to be a fair donation and also do my best to be a decent human being during encounters (don't go asking my ex's). Standing on principle has undoubtedly cost me some experiences I'm sure I would have enjoyed. It's also has likely spared me some buyer's remorse which ultimately impacts one's overall mood toward the game and the providers that sub in and out of it. There have been 123 rose experiences that I was meh about based on a first date that I was willing to give a second chance to and I'm glad that I made that choice. If I dropped 456 on a date when my comfy spot was 123 and left disappointed there likely would have been no round 2 because I'd have been pissed based on the fact I stepped out of my range. I hope that makes sense.

Welcome to the forum bro. It can be more than just contact info and reviews. I've learned a lot from forum participants that has extended beyond getting my sick ducked. Continue to be a productive contributor and it pays for itself. Those of us that "know" know. It's different forum for active productive participants. Cheers my dude.

[Smitty Qbert]

. Others result in shitty responses suggesting I learn how to read (eye roll).

I hate this one.

Usually the ones that do this to me is when I ask if BBBJ is allowed. Ad might say no bb but many allow BBBJ but not BBFS.

Even when I try to explain that, some get pissy.

[Tantra6969]

Well said. All valid points. What I've learned in the trade is to establish a baseline for what you are willing to donate based on who you are getting and what services will be provided. In the event any of those traits are unknown, I stick with a standard offer which is a qv up to my internal max set rate. How I feel about that experience drives my relationship with that provider going forward, if at all.

This all ties in to what I believe to be some incredible insight from Josefk, SmittyQ, and some others regarding market rates and monger response to "established" rates. At the end of the day, what I've learned over time is that I'm ok being disappointed if I stick to my principles. It's when I step outside of my comfort zone, knowing better, that I kick myself. I won't haggle. I also feel no kind of way, regardless of what's in an ad, throwing a text out laying out what I want and what I'm willing to donate. Some of those messages get ignored. Others result in shitty responses suggesting I learn how to read (eye roll). Plenty end up in negotiation where the first meet doesn't meet anyone's hopes and dreams, but establishes comfort, trust, and a path forward to a mutually beneficial relationship. For both monger and provider, trust, whatever that looks like, is important and will drive future rates. It's why its so difficult to answer questions about rates and service expectations. Through reviews and DMs, I often see a disparity between services and rates provided to different mongers. It previously annoyed me when I read reviews of other experiences (Kaci comes directly to mind) with certain providers. A few minutes in the game, I understand that all of it is relationship based.

A lot of rambling, sorry. This is a good topic with good input for both seasoned and new mongers alike as well as for those providers that monitor the board.

Good talk.

Didn't realize we had a number of Economists in the group! I agree with you all. Stop overpaying! I have a top limit for the 1st meet and negotiate as well. Definitely works better after the 1st visit and you've established yourself as a good and proven client. Love the Bird in the hand negotiation tactic for the 1st meet. Will definitely be using that going forward.

Thanks for everyone's insight!

[Aimless Drifter]

My bad. I didn't notice. The first page is definitely her. The red bandana with the thick ass. The last couple of rows before you choose more pics are not her. The ass was fat for sure and she had a pretty pussy with a pretty face. What I really liked was she didn't hesitate for CIM. I asked where she wanted it and she mouthed / motioned in her mouth without stopping. We didn't negotiate that upfront. Best of luck.

Got it. Thanks and will likely give a try.

[JohnnieCox]

Did a search and returned nothing.

Anyone got any Intel on this one? Posts a lot, looks TGTBT. All holes open, no condom. Normally a sign of a SCAM or a Nympho.

Wanting to try to pull the trigger, but doing homework 1st!

https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/6563332531/1

Johnnie Cox, from across the Bay in St Pete.

[Cards8]

Excellent points. Her being sick probably ruined the mood more than anything.

Well said. All valid points. What I've learned in the trade is to establish a baseline for what you are willing to donate based on who you are getting and what services will be provided. In the event any of those traits are unknown, I stick with a standard offer which is a qv up to my internal max set rate. How I feel about that experience drives my relationship with that provider going forward, if at all.

This all ties in to what I believe to be some incredible insight from Josefk, SmittyQ, and some others regarding market rates and monger response to "established" rates. At the end of the day, what I've learned over time is that I'm ok being disappointed if I stick to my principles. It's when I step outside of my comfort zone, knowing better, that I kick myself. I won't haggle. I also feel no kind of way, regardless of what's in an ad, throwing a text out laying out what I want and what I'm willing to donate. Some of those messages get ignored. Others result in shitty responses suggesting I learn how to read (eye roll). Plenty end up in negotiation where the first meet doesn't meet anyone's hopes and dreams, but establishes comfort, trust, and a path forward to a mutually beneficial relationship. For both monger and provider, trust, whatever that looks like, is important and will drive future rates. It's why its so difficult to answer questions about rates and service expectations. Through reviews and DMs, I often see a disparity between services and rates provided to different mongers. It previously annoyed me when I read reviews of other experiences (Kaci comes directly to mind) with certain providers. A few minutes in the game, I understand that all of it is relationship based.

A lot of rambling, sorry. This is a good topic with good input for both seasoned and new mongers alike as well as for those providers that monitor the board.

Good talk.

[Themanpyp212]

100% her in her pics. She looks fantastic from top to bottom. She was nice and straight to the point but you're not going to get a girlfriend experience with her. Got her on all fours and that's when she got into it, she knows how to move her hips. The only complaint about her is she is a Time watcher. I'd give her a 6 out of 10. If you want to go to the playground with her $$ for 30 cycles and for 60 cycles $$. 50. https://aypapi.com.listcrawler.eu/po...ampa/200980577.

[FeedEmNutz]

I took the plunge and visited Rose. Her MSRP rates are $$. 5 for hhr and $$$ for the hr. With all the rave, I thought she'd be worth it. I opted for half hour since I was short on time. She was hosting from a dumpy motel on Busch. She also had a cold. I should have left when I realized she was sick. I went through with it. BBBJ was good, 69 was good, Mish was tight and good but I feel her rates are too high. My appraisal is $. 5 - $$ for half hour max. Not sure I'll repeat. But she is short and cute. It's just not cool to be sick and offering up close and personal services. I splashed myself with hand sanitizer as soon as I returned to my vehicle. I'm not sick yet, so it seemed to have worked.

Well said. All valid points. What I've learned in the trade is to establish a baseline for what you are willing to donate based on who you are getting and what services will be provided. In the event any of those traits are unknown, I stick with a standard offer which is a qv up to my internal max set rate. How I feel about that experience drives my relationship with that provider going forward, if at all.

This all ties in to what I believe to be some incredible insight from Josefk, SmittyQ, and some others regarding market rates and monger response to "established" rates. At the end of the day, what I've learned over time is that I'm ok being disappointed if I stick to my principles. It's when I step outside of my comfort zone, knowing better, that I kick myself. I won't haggle. I also feel no kind of way, regardless of what's in an ad, throwing a text out laying out what I want and what I'm willing to donate. Some of those messages get ignored. Others result in shitty responses suggesting I learn how to read (eye roll). Plenty end up in negotiation where the first meet doesn't meet anyone's hopes and dreams, but establishes comfort, trust, and a path forward to a mutually beneficial relationship. For both monger and provider, trust, whatever that looks like, is important and will drive future rates. It's why its so difficult to answer questions about rates and service expectations. Through reviews and DMs, I often see a disparity between services and rates provided to different mongers. It previously annoyed me when I read reviews of other experiences (Kaci comes directly to mind) with certain providers. A few minutes in the game, I understand that all of it is relationship based.

A lot of rambling, sorry. This is a good topic with good input for both seasoned and new mongers alike as well as for those providers that monitor the board.

Good talk.

[StpaMonger]

Couldn't agree more with all of this. If it's someone I've seen a few times (goes without saying) there's definitely more wiggle room on price, services etc which I think is the benefit of continuing to see one provider at various points even if you try others for the experience. But AFAIC, I rarely plan well in advance unless it's someone via tryst who is travelling and that's only a handful of times. If I'm contacting them, I'll be ready in under an hour and I won't ghost. The ones who aren't candied up will typically recognize this and make it happen, it's the low tier / high volume travelling ones and users I've found that are the most flaky / unresponsive to that tactic. Which, if that's their mindset before we even meet, I would imagine the service will be commensurate. So no loss there, I'll use Rosie Palms and xvideo without leaving the house or spending a dime.

The Market Reset: Why Overpaying Dilutes Value.

There is a growing trend where costs escalate and restrictions multiply while the actual quality of service trends downward. This isn't just an individual issue, it's a market imbalance. When men continue to pay inflated "asking prices" for subpar experiences, they aren't just overspending, they are actively training the market to offer less for more.

The Strategy of the Immediate Offer.

[Smitty Qbert]

[QUOTE=JosefK;7514834]Not speaking about this lady in particular, though this is a constant issue.

The Market Reset: Why Overpaying Dilutes Value.

There is a growing trend where costs escalate and restrictions multiply while the actual quality of service trends downward. This isn't just an individual issue, it's a market imbalance. When men continue to pay inflated "asking prices" for subpar experiences, they aren't just overspending, they are actively training the market to offer less for more.

The Strategy of the Immediate Offer.

My approach is a direct response to this inflation. When met with an unrealistic rate, I offer a firm, fair alternative based on immediate availability: "I'm ready right now, truck keys in hand, and I have (120 or reasonable X amount] for a half hour. ".

This creates a "bird in the hand" scenario. By offering instant liquidity versus the possibility of a higher paying client later, the power dynamic shifts...[QUOTE]What I generally do when I encounter a high price is tell them thank you but that the amount is higher than I normally like. I might add a comment stating that while I am sure that they are worth that amount, I just cannot pay that high amount. Something nice and complimentary which usually has them counter with asking how much I would like. At that point I can counter down to a more reasonable amount. Or sometimes before I counter, they will counter themselves to a lower amount. I would love to see Mimi but I've told her straight out I am not paying 200. So every now and then I will hit her up and if she tells me the 200 again I just tell her no. That's also why I do not see opal black because to be an outcall or car date for what she charges for a quick visit, even though all the reviews are great, I'm just not doing that.

A lot of the Latina ones are usually the worst. And when they counter high prices and are resistant to lowering, I'll tell them good luck with that.

But I think it also depends on what time of the month it is. Usually towards the end of the month or the beginning of the month ladies are more receptive to negotiation. Makes sense as rent is due or whatever other bills they have.