Non Pro's

[Markro3000]

Those two posts are pure gold. Everyone sugaring should read them.

[Marko Ramius]

If the girl is pushing for a monthly salary, tell her you'll do ppm for at least three or four months before you'd be comfortable negotiating that. Monthly allowances almost never work out better for you.

On paying for meet and greets. I will pay 50 or 100 for an M&G to check someone out but I always hold out the option to upgrade to a full intimate meetup at an agreed upon price.

If they ask for money before meeting, a good counter is to say you will give them cash money if they meet face-to-face right away. Scammers will never take that offer so even if they are 500 miles away you are safe making that counteroffer. I do that because sometimes the excuses are pretty damned entertaining.

If girls are asking GPS prices, I will often move the terms of the meetup rather than negotiating on price if I think I really want to meet her. Like if they are asking something ridiculous like 1500 I will tell them explicitly what my expectations are at that price and ask them if they are comfortable with that. So for 1500 I might say something like, "for 1500 I expect a three-day weekend at a nice hotel and you give me free use and open access to anything and any part of you I desire. " Damned few will say yes to that.

[Morgan Creamin]

I'm an inexperienced rookie sugar daddy.

Looking for my first but I'm curious what yall are paying either monthly or per meet.

Some chick in fetlife quoted 8 to 950 er meet LOL.

It varies based on financial ability but I think a decent average of opinion on this board is that 5 is max (some go a bit above that) and then it's GPS. Even then, she better be a fucking spectacular unicorn for that. I tend to be ok with the 3-4 range for bbcip / cim / msog.

If you're new, here's some advice. First RTFF. Lots of good info in this thread. Lots of bullshit, too, but the difference should be obvious.

Trust your gut, if you think it's too good to be true then it is. This is a numbers game so don't expect good and fast results. Don't let the little head make decisions. Wait for a good match, they are out there but can be hard to find.

NEVER send money ahead of time for any reason. It doesn't matter what she says about "needing to prove you're serious" or that she's been burned before. It's a scam. Even if it's not a scam, it's a scam. If she won't move ahead without you sending money, walk away. Same thing for a paid meet and greet. Lots of stories on this board about a girl showing for a m&g, taking the money, and then disappearing.

Don't invite them to your place. Some guys on here don't follow this but keep as much of a barrier between your real life and the hobby as possible. Even in you live alone you are opening up lines of vulnerability once she knows where you live and has been inside. Ideally don't even park where they can see your vehicle when you meet. This goes even after you've seen one a few times. After a while you think you can trust them and your guard slips. Don't do that. Not saying be a dick, but set boundaries for your protection.

Search this thread for names and links, this will help you not waste time with certain ones that others have gotten intel on.

Don't discuss rates, activities, ppm, etc on the site. SA especially will perma-ban you and unless you are fairly tech savvy they will catch you opening new accounts. They read all your DMs, scan them for keywords, etc. Example, if you use the word 'arrangement' in a DM to a SB you'll get a warning before you send it.

Have I mentioned that you should NEVER send money up front or pay for a m&g? Doesn't matter how hot she is in the pic or in person, even if she didn't set out to burn you money in hand is a huge temptation. Just don't do it. You've been warned.

[Padrote425]

I'm an inexperienced rookie sugar daddy.

Looking for my first but I'm curious what yall are paying either monthly or per meet.

Some chick in fetlife quoted 8 to 950 er meet LOL.

[Ace McNasty]

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[Morgan Creamin]

A man can dream I guess. I hope to be as fortunate as you.

As I said, it's a numbers game. Been through many dry spells and wasted plenty of time with pic sellers, gps, etc. Don't treat them like pros, learn how to be at least a little bit charming and funny, and you'll do a lot better.

[JohnFrusc]

Love doing this with all my sugarbabies. I video them for a few minutes then I place my Canon on the bathroom sink and point it towards the shower area before eventually hopping in so I have footage of daddy washing all their sexy parts which I will be licking, sucking, and fucking in a few minutes LOL.

Got tons of shower content in my Dropbox. Many 18-22 SB's and escorts. Two recent examples below.

Do you share said dropbox? Would love to peruse what you get up to.

[PriceIsRight39]

A man can dream I guess. I hope to be as fortunate as you.

Request that the boys show their work! It all sounds good on paper. I do!

[Ace McNasty]

All. Why I shower with them or have them shower before I touch anything!

Love doing this with all my sugarbabies. I video them for a few minutes then I place my Canon on the bathroom sink and point it towards the shower area before eventually hopping in so I have footage of daddy washing all their sexy parts which I will be licking, sucking, and fucking in a few minutes LOL.

Got tons of shower content in my Dropbox. Many 18-22 SB's and escorts. Two recent examples below.

[PlayingJsea]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...5-d51e1e2e50c7
Janessa, worst so far, she'll send you a doc of a long price list, asking money for everything including text and photos, CFS even CBJ.
2000 ppm, 250 per hour with so many rules and you have to prepay.


https://members.seeking.com/member/0...0-1253f73c84a5
Ana, told me she only see cute / handsome guys after just saying hi LOL.


https://members.seeking.com/member/4...5-4870bcb1b22f
Petite ayda, pretended to be student LOL, quoted 600 per hour and then I found her tna with 100+ reviews.
https://www.tnaboard.com/community/m...ineeee.536006/


https://members.seeking.com/member/2...9-6938432b3ca5
Lindsey, rude, didn't even get a quote, guess I'm not her type.


https://members.seeking.com/member/e...1-7a6aa7782803
Laura, rude, didn't get a quote, told me she's richer than me LOL.


https://members.seeking.com/member/b...1-5091e04cec0a
Jada, 1000 ppm, did a video chat, looks real, too old for this price, haven't met yet.


https://members.seeking.com/member/0...3-cad5777ab6e4
LunaMei, 1000 ppm, same, video chatted but didn't meet.


I was supposed to meet one in person for got cancelled last minute, will share once I verify again.

You're a boss for posting these. Unfortunately some of the gals you identify as being good vanish after, probably too many people hitting them up.

I don't have her link but Ramona on SA is 500 ppm for basically unlimited time, she is young, good kisser but body is bigger in person. Also not shaved. Open to basically anything except anal and bdsm.

[PriceIsRight39]

This is it exactly. I think the problem with some guys is they want a pro to get laid for $X right away. It doesn't always happen that way, that's what actual pros are for. It's a time and numbers game with SBs.

8 out of 10. I fuc on the first date. Sometimes it's a meet for coffee fuc the next time and don't discuss money. I give enough so she is ready whenever I am and she's slim and under 25!

[PriceIsRight39]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...5-d51e1e2e50c7
Janessa, worst so far, she'll send you a doc of a long price list, asking money for everything including text and photos, CFS even CBJ.
2000 ppm, 250 per hour with so many rules and you have to prepay.


https://members.seeking.com/member/0...0-1253f73c84a5
Ana, told me she only see cute / handsome guys after just saying hi LOL.


https://members.seeking.com/member/4...5-4870bcb1b22f
Petite ayda, pretended to be student LOL, quoted 600 per hour and then I found her tna with 100+ reviews.
https://www.tnaboard.com/community/m...ineeee.536006/.

They cancel when they get a higher offer. There are guys with tons of money and no self esteem! How do you think this keeps going? If guys here are true to what they say the market would be flooded with broke chicks. Must be a ton of weak dudes just at their feet? The older omes especially. Jesus delusional at 40 on a sugar daddy site. I get message that indatcte this as fact. I have to tell them I'm not a desperate self hating man dying for a snigg of worm out poon. I stop at 30. I got 21 22 and 23. Easy to deal with and 3-400. That last 40 something wanted "consistency" and 1 k. Child please.

Some dude must be approving this behavior. Come ooooon AI you can eliminate the two problems with sugaring. I know you can. 2028 gone be crazy!

[PriceIsRight39]

How many of these girls would you say have multiple arrangements? Wondering how much I got to offer to get them exclusive. Got one I like but its pretty clear she's seeing multiple people. Probably some of you guys lmaoo.

All. Why I shower with them or have them shower before I touch anything! I was the F out of that hole. They are all liars too.

[Coldvisions]

Some of them? Absofuckinglutely. But I've met some fairly sane and decent SBs that could have a real conversation, enjoyed fucking, and didn't cause drama. Definitely the minority, to be sure. I'd say less than half of the ones I've actually talked to, not counting the scammers and pic sellers and crazy gps ones that never got past a couple texts, were truly nuts and messed up. As has been said a thousand times in this thread, it's a numbers game. Currently at my capacity with big titted SBs who enjoy getting smashed by Morgan's Hammer so I'm in a good mood on this topic.

A man can dream I guess. I hope to be as fortunate as you.