BBFS Providers Manhattan

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Some people do this. Share with alt names, share on diff dates, don't tell the shop she sucks cock (in the reverse bad way) on the way out (she's great!) but make sure you didn't piss the girl off that the girl says you're an asshole and shop knows you are lying to them and will still find your review.

It's not difficult to navigate this but you have to resist the urge to fire a bullet right away after a shitty session because the timing of your post makes it very easy for them to know who you are.

Yes, the best strategy is to pick one rather than try everything.

If I think a girl is mid and not for everyone, I'll tell the shop. The ones I've gone to listen to feedback and will warn every next customer. They literally warned me with accurate feedback so I know. For example, saying a girl is young or old, looks or service. Sometimes they caution a girl is young but low service, or old but good service. It was always accurate, because they value my business and know I won't show up if I don't pick the girls I like. They have warned me not to see specific girls at their own shop many times. Sometimes they did this without realizing I saw the girl at another shop. And they were right. I don't know if Manhattan has shops like these, but it's clear when a shop is passing accurate info.

A powerful strat is to simply review the best girls. I double down on the Dead Silence rule. I know which reviewers are legit and use their intel to see the best candidates, and together we identify most of the hot girls with few unknowns. This works because guys are happy to exchange tips on who they think are hot, even if they're reluctant to talk about girls they didn't like. So I try to point out every great girl in town to make it extra clear who probably isn't. It's such a ridiculous plan a shop could never be really sure if we're doing it on purpose.

The review was verbose and highly specific in scenario and date. Between the girl and the shop it wouldn't be too hard to put it together.

Yes, I focus mostly on accurate physical descriptions and then make general comments on service and vibe without details. The main reason I do this is it's close to objective. If I say a girl is D cup maybe she's really C cup but you're not going to see small tits. So it's not going to be perfect but I think it goes a long way to help a guy browse for his type. I will warn when a girl has low service or is a butterface as body over face, those are also obvious things at 90% of people will agree on. I like butterfaces, but I know others don't. If I warn guys like that it doesn't even count as a negative review (I am recommending the girl for one type of guy but not another). And the type of descriptions I write, another guy can try his best and will come up with something not far off. So, my review isn't about me but about the girl.

PPC, MK, 1010, AS and 143 are all good stores that get hot young girls. They all have better and more friendly management than SE in my experience and they will not give your grief for posting honest feedback online.

Choice matters. Some shops are customer-oriented focused on customer loyalty for repeat visits, others are girl-oriented focused on volume and the idea of "If you don't like it you can leave". Girls will rotate shops sometimes, and as long as the there are choices each person can do what they think is right.

[PokerBrah]

How do they even know who's posting the review? They do seem plenty busy but, especially a with conspicuous spot like that, I'm surprised they don't worry more about pissing off customers.

This is so simple I am surprised people don't know.

If you share very little, they won't know. They probably won't know who you are if you never share much.

If you share very quickly after a shitty experience, of course they will know especially if you complained about her while you were there. Duh right? This is a very obvious use-case. If you were the firsts customer and you shared at 11 AM, it doesn't take a sherlock holmes to figure who you are.

If you share often, they will eventually figure it out because you're a frequent DIPer. But they won't do much if you are a good customer for the most part.

Some people do this. Share with alt names, share on diff dates, don't tell the shop she sucks cock (in the reverse bad way) on the way out (she's great!) but make sure you didn't piss the girl off that the girl says you're an asshole and shop knows you are lying to them and will still find your review.

It's not difficult to navigate this but you have to resist the urge to fire a bullet right away after a shitty session because the timing of your post makes it very easy for them to know who you are.


And if they ask if this is you, you always deny.

[Almost Virgin]

How do they even know who's posting the review? They do seem plenty busy but, especially a with conspicuous spot like that, I'm surprised they don't worry more about pissing off customers.

The review was verbose and highly specific in scenario and date. Between the girl and the shop it wouldn't be too hard to put it together.

Bonus** Noteworthy today some whale is loading the crap out of CVNA today ahead of ER next month.

[Archie]

Yikes. Most shops probably cannot afford to do this. My SE visits most times the waiting room seems to be bursting at the seams and they can likely to cull some customer demand without issues. Short-sighted way to handle issues though.

How do they even know who's posting the review? They do seem plenty busy but, especially a with conspicuous spot like that, I'm surprised they don't worry more about pissing off customers.

[Almost Virgin]

Yikes. Most shops probably cannot afford to do this. My SE visits most times the waiting room seems to be bursting at the seams and they can likely to cull some customer demand without issues. Short-sighted way to handle issues though.

[JavLuvr]

To recap, last Friday I wrote an honest review about an 18 year old flat-chested J-girl named Himari who had appeared on the NYCSE web site since just over a week ago.

My review noted that, although Himari showed me a slip of paper that she would do BBFS for $200 extra, she did not allow LFK or DFK, did not know how to do a blow job properly or put a condom on, did not want to have sex with me because I have a supposedly larger-than-normal penis (her words, not mine), and did not even know how to do a hand job, yet charged a premium price.

Today I noticed that Himari had been dropped off the NYCSE / Kawaii Spa website. Then, this afternoon NYCSE sent me three short texts in quick succession:

"She hasn't been busy since receiving your negative reviews, and she has already left. ".

"The boss is very angry".

"We will no longer accept orders from customers who leave negative reviews. ".

So it looks like I've been banned for being honest. Review writers, take note!

I'm curious. Did they also ban the Chinese customers who physically hurt Audrey Love? That's much more serious than just writing an honest review.

NYCSE is the most conspicuous spa out there, such an obvious front. Reviews need to be honest, as we all know many posters shill for favors from the spas. Fck this place, if even a fraction of us boycott, they're done.

Damn that's so fucked up. Ban you over a fucking review? Holy shit. And Jesus I hope they banned whichever guys was abusing Audrey. Fuck those Chinese guys they make the rest of us Chinese look bad too. And I doubt they'll be banned if those guys are high spenders too. They probably made Audrey see them again.

Are you guys really just finding out this is a thing? I'm pretty sure I posted about it on ampr a while ago. I been banned by these fuckers for like a year because of reviews. They do also have a ton of shills posting fake reviews for them, mainly on ampr.

Ultimately, SE will still get hot girls here and there, so a boycott wouldn't work. We clients are impulsive fuckers who, by the very nature of the business, think with our dicks. But what we can do, however, is try and patronize the other popular stores THAT DO NOT DO THIS SHIT TO THEIR CUSTOMERS. We all know mightyspearsman here on this board. He is one of the real ones. He is not out here trying to hurt girls. In fact he's always struck me as a kindly old man just trying to find good pussy and share his experiences. If SE banned this guy, then nobody here is safe LOL.

PPC, MK, 1010, AS and 143 are all good stores that get hot young girls. They all have better and more friendly management than SE in my experience and they will not give your grief for posting honest feedback online. I know it's technically affiliated with SE, but I've also gone RS and continue to go RS without any problems. It's only SE that seems to be closely watching the review boards and then banning people for honest feedback. If you don't like this, then vote with your wallets and instead patronize stores that do not engage in these bad business practices.

If all the stores were to start doing this shit, it would put us on a path that hurts everyone in the end, both girls / customers and basically just ruins the pussy market. A Manhattan where stores start using fake pics for J girls and then banning the guys who leave honest reviews would be the end of Manhattan as we have come to know it.

[DrunkenKid]

Variety. Otherwise it is like eating a ribeye steak for every meal. LOL.

I've eaten a lot of ribeye. I would never get tired of eating ribeye.

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Though I do think everyone should keep in mind that if a girl has no reviews from NYCSE that now means something different from having no reviews at other shops.

Yes, this is known as the Dead Silence Rule. A side effect of this is there can be a standoff where nobody sees a girl even if she is good, because there are no reviews. But realistically, silence is usually bad. When we see a girl we really like we want others to know and review. Then they stay longer and come back next time, the average standard rises, and more girls will follow too.

I think a boycott is not necessary as it would be impossible to enforce and dudes can just lie..The shops that continue shady practices such as bans for bad reviews or comments will need to step up their game, or face losing business.

Yes, there is no one simple rule for everyone to follow because it becomes an arms race where each thing you do has a logical counter. You are right that more reviews are the solution. It has no easy counter because eventually there becomes a clear pattern. It's obvious which girls have a good face, which have a good body, which are high or low service.

NYSCE

"We will no longer accept orders from customers who leave negative reviews. ".

So it looks like I've been banned for being honest. Review writers, take note!

I'm curious. Did they also ban the Chinese customers who physically hurt Audrey Love? That's much more serious than just writing an honest review.

Most shops know if they do this, people are going to be a lot more skeptical of reviews. You got horrible service and they offered you a $30 discount for next time. It means the next guy is going to get the same bad service without warning.

Normally if a girl can't do the bare minimum, a shop notices and gets rid of her. Very few shops get rid of the customer instead. Not allowing negative reviews always leads to problems. Shops have been banned from TER for doing this and less.

But what is there to get out of it? I am here to fuck the hottest Asian hookers I can.

Yes, if a girl is hot people will go see her. We are here to see girls, not see shops. So I don't think a boycott is realistic. But it's good everyone is aware of the problem.

On the other extreme, if you pay a girl for services and she can't even provide the bare minimum, you would hope the next guys are warned. Because the next guy is you and everyone else.

If a single poor review on this site can negatively impact a shop, then so would a boycott (even partial) by board members. Won't happen if they get someone way hot, I understand. But we have the right to vote with our feet and could easily influence policy with even a little solidarity. But whatever. F.

Yes, certain reviews matter more than others. Some girls are truly awful service, so just one review is enough. With borderline girls, some guys will like her and some won't so a proper review isn't going to make a big difference even if it truly helped some guys on the fence make a good decision.

In other cities, when a girl gives as bad service as Mighty Spearsman experienced, you see 1-3 brand new accounts sound the warning. Obviously, they are people who are reluctant to review with their main account. The best proof they were real warnings is what happens after. In my experience, such warnings were as accurate as any other review - almost always true. It's not an ideal solution, but there are very many solutions.

The other is to reinforce the Dead Silence rule by clearly reviewing the girls worth seeing. Some girls I don't necessarily recommend unless you are into their specific appeal. It could be good boobs, good face, very skinny, body type, or some skill.

[VidLover69]

Or just go bang Audrey from the get go.

Variety. Otherwise it is like eating a ribeye steak for every meal. LOL.

[DrunkenKid]

also, the order of operation is to see miya first for the non-pro, unjaded but amateur experience. then go see one of the service queens like audrey for the s tier pro.

Or just go bang Audrey from the get go.

[VidLover69]

Miya MK - 18, very cute, young and needs more experience so you put in the work to fuck this 18 year old untl about 40 days when she turns 19.

Miya is a cute college freshman in need of a teacher. benchmark your expectations accordingly.

also, the order of operation is to see miya first for the non-pro, unjaded but amateur experience. then go see one of the service queens like audrey for the s tier pro.

[CherCheri]

I think a boycott is not necessary as it would be impossible to enforce and dudes can just lie. This board is to share information, if we continue to post honest unbiased reviews, the good shops that pull poor performers and promote good ones will benefit from good business practices. The shops that continue shady practices such as bans for bad reviews or comments will need to step up their game, or face losing business.

There is power in words. Look at what good reviews do for girls like Audrey, and often a bad review can tank a girl just as quickly.

TLDR: No need to boycott, continue sharing information and writing honest reviews.

Though I do think everyone should keep in mind that if a girl has no reviews from NYCSE that now means something different from having no reviews at other shops.

[PokerBrah]

Miya MK - 18, very cute, young and needs more experience so you put in the work to fuck this 18 year old untl about 40 days when she turns 19.

#RTB $100/$200 and $100 video.

Mayu SE very pretty. Bald Pussy. No video. Sorry bro. $100/$200, more skills but still young hot newbie to me and very good.

Seira SE also very pretty, #RTB $100/$200. Video ok $200. Similar, great body also.

Recommend to fuck all of them.

In additional, if you are grandfathered. Audrey SE is still a good fuck.

Sana MK too is a proven winner.

Mai PPC is the only girl for Anal. It just a few months ago that PPC had 4-5 Anal girls.

[Fuctup]

If a single poor review on this site can negatively impact a shop, then so would a boycott (even partial) by board members. Won't happen if they get someone way hot, I understand. But we have the right to vote with our feet and could easily influence policy with even a little solidarity. But whatever. F.

I think a boycott is not necessary as it would be impossible to enforce and dudes can just lie. This board is to share information, if we continue to post honest unbiased reviews, the good shops that pull poor performers and promote good ones will benefit from good business practices. The shops that continue shady practices such as bans for bad reviews or comments will need to step up their game, or face losing business.

There is power in words. Look at what good reviews do for girls like Audrey, and often a bad review can tank a girl just as quickly.

TLDR: No need to boycott, continue sharing information and writing honest reviews.

[Genghis Dong]

Just the posters here avoiding NYCSE would send a huge message.

But what is there to get out of it? I am here to fuck the hottest Asian hookers I can.