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01-22-26 14:44 #1596Senior Member

Posts: 220Glad you brought this up
I am glad you brought this up. While I usually go to the AMPs and dine at the agency some. I feel there are mongers out there that have horrible intentions and provide nothing but crap to the ladies we see. I have had a few conversations in DM with a friend on here about this.
Originally Posted by DogginUSA
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Even with a favorite of yours Doggin from RS she went through some traumatic stuff because of some monger, whether he is from here, or passing through, I do not know but I was there right after it happened and had to help her calm down.
So yeah, it proves to be nice to these women and not be a little D* If you do not like what she is doing or acting, then leave. Don't crap on the lady because of your personal challenges or you are being a self-destructive loser.
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01-22-26 14:20 #1595Senior Member

Posts: 879Toilets
Guys, I had a provider reach out to me this morning to let me know about a horrific experience she had with one of you. She refused to name names so I'm sending this out to all of you. The point that pisses me off is that I referred you to her. That's why she called me in case you're wondering.
I don't care what you think about these women but they are not your toilets. One of you used this woman's bed as you're fucking toilet. You asked for a service that they normally don't provide in which your back door was plumbed out. And you shit all over the bed that she sleeps in. That's absolutely disgusting. I would not have believed it if I didn't get pictures.
To top that off after the act was done you didn't leave. Apparently you stayed more than an hour after you shit all over this lady's bed. They're not there to be your toilets they're not there to be your counselor and if they are you better be compensating appropriately.
If you did this you are a foul human being. And while she didn't name names I'm pretty damn sure who you are and you will get no more information from me.
You treated that girl's home like a toilet. Just disgusting.
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01-21-26 12:29 #1594Senior Member

Posts: 35If I were to craft an AMP-inspired fragrance.
It's scent notes would be a bouquet of:
* Borderline bad breath.
* Microwaved leftover Chinese food.
* Old folks' home.
* Musty linen.
I've always been super sensitive to disturbances in the ol' aromatics, so I must confess I breathe through my mouth when I enter 99 percent of all AMPs. If the provider's hygiene is obviously poor, I skedaddle. No shade to the providers, please understand: I'm grateful to them for their services.
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01-20-26 11:57 #1593Senior Member

Posts: 588Ah I won't go on too long here because I took the last post as a nice neutral ending but I will say I appreciate the insight from someone who enjoys both.
Originally Posted by CaptainY
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I do want to highlight that one line though. I really and honestly have kind of thought the same. Like a part of my shtick is sharing some of my limited time in Japan with them. It's the same photos but each one of them hasn't seen it so it's a unique reaction to it. Sometimes I get food recommendations, suggestions on where I should go next, which part they are from, etc. I'm sure most appreciate the break to not be bothered with me for the rest of the time haha. But I can also tell sometimes, the ones that were just focused on "doing the job" kind of soften up.
So sometimes I wish I could spend the early time on that get to know you part. But it's just wishful thinking on my part. "Sequence breaking" tends to confuse people expecting things to go a certain way. Heck, it's happened to me like when one girl did the mouthwash after the shower and not before. I was like "wait something is missing here?
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01-20-26 11:07 #1592Senior Member

Posts: 112I have lots of conflicting feelings when it comes to the AMP versus Agency debate. For me, they are two different, but both pretty good, things.
Originally Posted by Ayasaki
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I like the predictability of the Agency experience, especially a well run one. CCG seems well run to me. I am down pretty bad for Korean and Japanese women, which I learned maybe too late in my life. I love being able to see the stats and opting in to the body different types (and, yes, I ignore all the photos). Having said that, while I appreciate the veneer of safety that that luxury location offers, it also makes me nervous about how discrete they or their visitors are, and whether any nosy neighbors are ever paying attention. With something like this, you sort of want your agency to not be too popular, and I worry that some of my fellows aren't as discrete as I am.
In truth, though, I think I enjoy a good AMP experience more than a similar agency experience. I tend to get in my own head whenever I visit friends, and the AMPs give you some time to relax and get rid of the anxiety and nerves. The agency sort of throws you in to the fire. Within 5 minutes of walking in that door, it is on and you have a new best friend. (I've often thought about asking them to do the hour in reverse: All the prep work, followed by a lazy rub and laying around, and then the main course.) Plus, I love the ambiguity of the AMP experience. Will there be more? Are her hands going to touch it? Holy crap, it's on!
For today's topic, though, I agree with Ayasaki on safety. Sure, I don't love my car being parked in front of a sketchy store front, but I also like the deniability of that an AMP offers. "I'd like a one hour session please," and that's it. No talk about BB, pops, or anything like that. I go in for an hour, enjoy a rub; at the 30 - 45 minute mark, I get (and give) some very clear confirmation that we are all not law enforcement, and I know that I can walk out with a secret. Maybe I'm being naive, but I think you can walk into an AMP and, as long as you keep it simple, you get to walk out freely, no matter who is watching.
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01-18-26 09:44 #1591Senior Member

Posts: 1036Ah thanks for reminding me what I post. And to never forget where I come from or who I am. A good reminder. Just don't live in the past. Everyone is on their own journey, do you and be happy. For me and where I am today I can say based on my combined experiences, ROI is much greater at blank locations versus blank locations. For me it is as easy as it gets and ever will be. Whether you agree or not it's ok either way. However as unique as I am I believe some feel the same. The point is to only share my experiences and my perspectives.
Originally Posted by Ayasaki
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To your main point. The less explicit communication the better and using a burner phone that is not tied to you helps as well. Risks should always be taken into your decisions process. Just don't be so risk adverse you stay in a bubble. Everyone is also on the hunt for a good deal so no shame in that either. Thanks for sharing the case studies. We don't know what we don't know and lessons learned from these studies can help all of us if nothing else but a reminder.
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01-18-26 00:05 #1590Senior Member

Posts: 588Ah good I don't have to risk posting in the agency thread.
Originally Posted by BravoFox
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It's fine you enjoy agencies. People like different things, but it might surprise you that not everything in the world is a binary choice. The massage parlor thread is very active. I've seen some agency faces show up in the massage thread. But, you are free to enjoy your own thing as well.
My one and only point was not to go to an agency, but to insulate yourself in communications so if things go bad, you've got a better chance. That's something that just makes sense it applies to my friends and yours. It's certainly not an attack on a specific agency. I mean if you see the need to pop in an Indianapolis thread and remind folks to not bring fake money or not to date the girls, then I don't find it that harmful to remind those to not send questions like "What is BB" or respond more than is necessary.
Sometimes we also forget where we come from.
You yourself were thankful in the past that you didn't have to send your information in order to get verified. If you had no concerns, and everything is just A-OK, agencies are foolproof, you would not have made statements like that. Perhaps you got over it at some point, but that doesn't mean everyone else will magically not have the same concerns that you did.
Originally Posted by BravoFox
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What you may have difficulty understanding now, your past self did not. Where's that jackhammer, that BBFS upcharge negotiation for 20 (which is never what it would be but let me pretend you meant BBBJ). We had good times here at specific AMPs. We know you haven't set foot in any of these in Nashville in years, so just as much as I know nothing about two years ago, you have no clue about the providers now. There's a reason people kept lifting up HFS and Royal Spa, but your current self is incapable of understanding that. And it's fine.
Originally Posted by BravoFox
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But see other comrades have on occasion for one reason or another, ended up at the good ones, and left a good review. CaptainY being one of them. It stays in my memory because I was like. "oh hey one of them actually enjoyed his time here, I guess I am validated after all. " And that's why things had been difficult recently, we lost the good girls and stores and were left with the extras that spread that kind of bad imagery you are talking about. But thanks to teamwork, we've located a new good one, but no need to get into that, it's not your thing, so leave it to us inferior people.
Here's another thing, I can't say whether your past self would understand this point or not. But for those of us who do enjoy both things, there's a familiarity with the providers at an AMP. I'm no family or friend to them, but they put on a good show of recognizing me. Giving me some light snacks while I waited. Actually honoring their time with me 90% of the time. A good AMP is like a home cooked meal, and an agency is a really nice restaurant. It's great to go out and fine dine, but it's also a wonderful feeling to come back home to someone who knows exactly who you are, what meal you like without asking or explaining anything (without the actual complexity of a relationship haha).
Think real hard about it. There was a particular AMP woman recently that not only had fans, some fans followed her to a hotel for sessions, and followed her when she opened her own branch. Do you think that kind of thing occurs if someone is just jackhammering you?
So let's once again bring this back to the original point. It was nothing more than a comment on safety if things go bad. It's not and never will be a post saying don't go, but neither you nor I can ever give any assurance that things can't just go belly up at any time. Given thread creation date, 007 went on from June 2024 to August 2025 with zero indication they got compromised as of November 2024. Let me tap the Boston drama for another one.
Authorities allege (blank) arranged for sex at least 10 times, including on June 27,2023, when he texted the brothel phone asking about a woman named Wren.
The brothel confirmed Wren's availability but warned: "Only GFE Services, No BB Services!!—referencing the "Girlfriend Experience" (which prosecutors described as "more intimate") and "bareback' (condom-less).
(blank) agreed to pay $340 for an hour, police say. Unaware investigators had installed hallway cameras in the complex, he was stopped by detectives when leaving. When questioned, (blank) said he was visiting a friend. .
At a recent hearing to decide whether charges should be brought, (blank)'s (attorney) argued no evidence showed his client knew he was visiting a brothel or that money changed hands. (attorney) emphasized prosecutors didn't offer any testimony about what actually occurred inside.
"There are a lot of conclusions that are drawn," (attorney) said. "There's not sufficient evidence to back up those conclusions. ".
The court disagreed, and (blank) is set to be arraigned on a misdemeanor charge. Neither (blank) nor his company, HiberCell, responded to requests for comment.
He shut up and lawyered up. He was still getting that charge. Do I know the end result? Nah. Maybe charges got dropped. But what I do know is he "stepped down" as CEO after this. What magic defense do you think CCG, SSG, SS88, etc could have against this?
I do not claim to know everything but I do give examples that can be cited more than "just trust the agency bro". The sad thing is I have to always hope your faith is validated, because the alternative will be bad for my comrades, no matter which side of the fence you are on.
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01-17-26 01:45 #1589Senior Member

Posts: 1036It's also all about the experience you want.
Passionate time with a clean independent companion by appointment only. No stress and non violent environment. Mood lighting and mirrors. Safe GFE experience without interruptions unless the occasional alarm system being tested scenarios. Less transactional and costs for time and company are well established and universal.
Or.
Drive by and pray ten cars are not in the parking lot with dudes staring at each other. Everyone knows the establishment offers extras so if you are there walking up or leaving it's pretty clear why. Pray you get a decent massage before the flip. Pray she will accept your 20 dollars for BBFS. You settle on 240 extra after the house fee for CFS. You get jackhammered and pushed out the door in less than 20 minutes into your session feeling unsatisfied. Back in the car and on the app looking at STGs for what else you can catch.
Facts are overall AMPs are ranked below Agency's, Tryst, Eros, P411 girls.
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01-16-26 22:40 #1588Senior Member

Posts: 27LOL people need to learn how to shut the fuck up when talking to the police. You weren't talking your way out of the situation. Can talk but don't admit. I would've have said I don't remember going there and if you have any other questions I would like a lawyer. Am I free to go? Plain and simple but people talk themselves into a crime and give them evidence.
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01-16-26 17:27 #1587Senior Member

Posts: 588I might have to return to that video later but I do get the gist. But you got the main idea, yes in most of these cases, some dude says something they shouldn't and helps the case more than anything else. But it also basically always happens. One guy getting pinched makes it easier, but honestly I feel that's for slam dunk purposes. They got details from the girls too. And the buyers were safe so far in this instance but the trial is technically ongoing so it's not a done deal, although I'll admit I don't see them pursuing the buyers.
Originally Posted by DomDraper
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I just wanted to keep it very clear that LEO can watch you coming and going and the organization can be compromised for months before you know the end result. But the difference with the AMP is in most cases, you never have to discuss anything and making an appointment (since some are doing that now) is just normal for business. And none of them will ever write anything other than the 30/60 m fee in text.
As I had begun with, I don't want to exclusively cite Boston, but it is again the whole reason I bring up the point. I'll attach the relevant image. If a text ends up looking like that and you show up, you might have a problem on your hands. He sent a lot of messages and had like 13 visits. I myself jokingly have done more than that in less time (look for me on the news if this goes sideways). But I have never gotten a text from them that looked like this.
But like I said, just because I haven't, doesn't mean someone else didn't. And if they did anything like this, they can come knocking.
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01-16-26 11:41 #1586Senior Member

Posts: 405A Good Reminder
Based off of the previous post, this feels like a good time to remind everyone to exercise your right to remain silent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
Sure the officers were tipped off to the building due to the volume of guys coming and going and the intervals they were staying. But they got confirmation of the actual services being provided by a guy who was most likely scared because the police are asking him questions. At that point we all have to decide whether to talk or not. I'm not saying it's easy, as you don't know what they do or don't already know and if they are planning to book you anyway. Either way, most defense lawyers would tell you exactly what the video says. Don't talk. Just say you don't talk to police without a lawyer present. They'll ask why and say if you have nothing to hide why can't you just talk to us. You'll say I've seen too many crime docs to know how people talk themselves into admitting things they did or didn't do and I'm not going to be that guy.
From what I read in the article and from your quotes, it doesn't look like they charged the customers other than maybe the first guy? So in either situation, agency or AMP, the risk remains the same. Don't be the first guy the police talk to. Haha! But perhaps the bigger point is that if the police and feds, or state in this case, truly want to build the case and eventually make arrests via warrants they will. And they did. It seems their case has more to do with shutting down the supply rather than the demand. They go after the business owners rather than the customers.
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01-15-26 16:06 #1585Senior Member

Posts: 588AMP risk is stays at the store, Agency risk can follow you home.
He knows what agencies are given his post history. He just didn't consider what we have as an agency that's all. Could be any number of reasons like assuming fake pictures or expecting other women besides Asians, but I'll leave that to him to explain if he wishes. But this is not really why I moved my reply here.
Originally Posted by Rebccu
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It's here because I've seen this "agency is superior and can do no wrong" mindset around. And as usual I'll give the reminder about "safety", Boston wasn't that long ago. It's a key point in a past post I made. But we don't want to always rely on one incident.
So since the time of that post, there's been 0 raids on the agencies in Nashville, and 4 raids on (Royal, Floral, A, and Four Seasons). Now ask yourself if you've ever heard any guy getting nabbed in those? However, also since the time of that post, we have 007 in Minnesota along with a still developing situation in Seattle and Dallas. But I want to focus the 007 one because I was linked to the complaint there and it's exactly the reality check that I'm talking about. Because of rules I'm going to do like someone else and just say the name of the relevant article that can be googled "Complaint shows how Bloomington prostitution ring operated", but I'm taking my quotes from the complaint itself.
This isn't 2023. It's 2024-2025. And it was the state themselves, not the fed this time.
"Officers learned that (redacted)'s "girlfriend" had been at the apartment with several other adult Asian women, and that the apartment management was able to access video from the call entry box to the apartment. Officers learned from apartment management that different men would show up at the apartment and stay for 30-60 minutes, and that the apartment would be buzzed every 30-60 minutes throughout the week and week-ends. Law enforcement were provided with at least 5 different men's photos that accessed that apartment in question during a particular time. ".
"Officers observed that for at least one woman, there was a hyperlink to a well-known commercial sex worker review website which showed that the woman had 10 reviews since April 2025 and clear commercial sex acts for money were among the reviews. ".
"In November 2024, officers were notified about a suspected commercial sex customer that had just entered the apartment. After conducting surveillance and seeing the male later exit the apartment building, officers stopped the male customer and spoke with him. He confirmed that he had been at the apartment for a sex for money transaction. The male provided detailed information to officers about the transaction, the apartment and how he booked the transaction. ".
"In late May / early June of 2025, officers booked an appointment for commercial sex using the information learned throughout the investigation. A date for sex with a woman listed on the site was made and an agreement to pay $400 in exchange for an hour of time with the woman was discussed. Officers were provided the location of the apartment building on (redacted). ".
And I'll stop there for a bit. Now no guy got charged, except maybe that guy that admitted to it. But the whole "I'm just there for anything" only holds up if you and the agency themselves don't text the amounts and you agree to it in any form. I don't know what yours does, and don't really care. But just because mine doesn't with me, doesn't mean they won't be careless with someone else. TER is not proof but clearly listed as another part of probable cause for the warrant. I'm quite confident that everything that played out in this report could equally happen here if they were so inclined. They just have not been. Oh and bear in mind, even the apartment itself rolled over.
But there was no advance warning. That guy got stopped 6 months before they took action. He probably could have even given a heads up to folks. And maybe he did I'm not digging that deep but probably not because I doubt a lawyer would have suggested that was a smart idea if he wanted to stay out of real trouble. Same story for the girls that got interviewed months before.
Oh and this is truly a unique line I didn't get from Boston.
"Defendant (redacted 1) stated that he had first been a customer of commercial sex in 2022 and that Defendant (redacted 2) had then asked him to drop off a female at the airport for money. Defendant (redacted 1) continued to drive women for the operation since 2022 and now gets paid anywhere from $30-$100 to drop off and pick up women at MSP. ".
This dude was one of "us". Not necessarily a poster but at the very least he was someone who I guess liked a girl a little too much and got into the business with her.
This is not a "don't go to agency" post. I literally refreshed before submitting this and saw a new girl is at one of my places LOL. I just reject the narrative trying to treat it as a secret impenetrable club. It's easy to break by LEO if they want.
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01-12-26 15:49 #1584Senior Member

Posts: 2501Wtf
Wow. I never seen some many numbers with weird area codes. Either scams or Latina. I understand the traveling girls. So where is this hobby going?
I think we should boycott those stupid ass adds and eat local. Any thing with close area codes. Maybe the things might change.
There was more local fine ass girls 10 years ago than now. They was all GFE. Hate to see this hobby go down hill, but it seems to be gone.
Remember guys take care of the local girls. My rant.
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01-03-26 01:35 #1583Senior Member

Posts: 1282DAMN.
Originally Posted by ShyGuyInTn
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I was first to review her on here. Youthink she is in Montgomery? I met her back in 2009 when I was driving through there. We ate lunch at Chick Fil A together. Such a sweetheart. And to that other dude, man she is not in her 70's bro, she is prob in her 50's now though.
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01-01-26 19:10 #1582Senior Member

Posts: 168Bb
You got DM.
Originally Posted by DogginUSA
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