Non Pro's

[VanDawg]

I meet them and make it a date like any other. 1/3 the time they end up sleeping with me for $0. 1/3 I talk them down to something like an allowance that works out to $200/ pop. 1/3 it goes no where. Guess what the truly normal 20 yo girls don't especially want to think of themselves as sleeping for money. So the game is in removing that mental friction and make them feel like it's like any other normie relationship except you're giving them what they need instead of a $200 dinner every time you see them.

This is it exactly. I think the problem with some guys is they want a pro to get laid for $X right away. It doesn't always happen that way, that's what actual pros are for. It's a time and numbers game with SBs.

[PriceIsRight39]

Yes, there are a lot of gurls out there asking for ridiculous amounts of money.

Generally if they are asking for more than 600 ppm I don't even bother with negotiating and move on. I find I can find more girls than I can ever fuck at 400 ppm with very open menus. On BBFS my rule is I don't do that until I've verified they are on BC. Sometimes I'll even pay for an IUD at Planned Parenthood. Yeah, it is an additional expense but much cheaper than child support.

The younger girls and the girls with higher asking prices are usually the biggest time wasters and worst flakes. And in my experience the very best service at the very best prices has been some freaky ladies in their early thirties.

I'm at 21 22 and one 23 all bare 300-400. I find the ones over 30 to be the most delusional! Have fucked 18 and 19 ho's but yes they are flaky and often one and done as they need money for phone or the goofy 6'3" BF that's broke. The older ones always think their puss is better. LOL its not. Well ok ok not all the older ones I had a long term one that was 30 and a real sweet and fun date. We even went to regular dating stuff. Anything gets worse with age and use. I have shown my work here as well. . No fatties and no 3'-4's. If more guys had an abundance mindset this and dating would be much much better. Weak men have brought hard times. AI layoffs will level the field. Get in line ladies, winter is coming.

[Seattlebp]

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...5-219b50763f39

Zeynep, 250 for a coffee meet, told me if not then don't message her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...e-d2c792e67118

500 for 2 h, after I said yes she blocked me LOL.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...0-2799ee274f15

Rose, she changed her profile she was looking for a SD called Charlie who blocked her LOL, switch location between Canada and WA don't even know why she hmu.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...3-57b21c587db1

Content seller, $40 for a few pics.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...e-a35e4c160fd0

Content seller.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...2-4d11194904a0

Karrine, maybe I'm not her type, kinda rude asking me to f-off when I just said hi LOL.

[Morgan Creamin]

These women are completely delusional.

It's not just women on the sugar sites, it's American / Western women in general. One of the reason why I hobby is that most women bring nothing to the table. They don't approach relationships willing to be equal partners or work together, it's all about what will you do for them and they feel like they have to provide nothing in return. The sugar sites just get a slightly exaggerated version of that that's a little more out in the open. Women look down on hobbyists but they don't see that many of us would happily settle down if they weren't so fucking selfish and self-absorbed.

[MilfHunter66]

Chatted with this one, wanted 150 for a meet and greet. Pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...4-67d691ae53ac

Well of course she does because she is top shelf quality LOL.

But seriously her profile is a complete joke. Her pics make her look like some dumpy older women that should be blessed just getting a nice dinner and someone that wants to see her with her clothes off.

These women are completely delusional.

Had one this morning block me after sending a Pic of what I look like. She was over weight and maybe a 2 or 3 on a good day.

While I'm not the most handsome I'm still at least a solid 5 or maybe a 6 on a good day. Funny how I wasn't goid enough for her LOL.

[Bronco62]

Chatted with this one, wanted 150 for a meet and greet. Pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...4-67d691ae53ac

[Ace McNasty]

Hey everyone Dave here, new hot fun SLN girl in Vancouver, her name is Elina and she is 20. She says she is a Ukrainian girl that arrived in Vancouver recently and is looking for help, said she would be willing to meet in Seattle. She might be a pro or a grifter, but you never know and she's worth a try being as hot as she is. She said she likes pretty much everything except anal, but would be open to it as long as she knew ahead of time. She said she likes a bit of rough sex, and can handle some spanking, choking, and slapping. No word on BBFS, but she is asking for a medium to high PPM allowance. She also has content for sale.

http://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Elinaa/

When I saw Ukrainian I got interested although no way I would sugar in Vanc. Slavic and E. European girls are my specialty. Two of my current sugars are Ukrainian and Albanian. Creampied plenty of Russian girls in my life.

Elinaa's SLN account is using pics of an Instagram model I subscribed to and I checked her video verification and def not the same girl, still kinda cute esp with her mouth wide open waiting for my angry cock to make a deposit down her throat LOL. I requested body pics from her private albums because the video is only face and that usually means they fat.

I enjoy reading your posts from one city to the next with your Sugar Of The Day promotion LOL. And want to give you flowers for supporting and sponsoring this board Dave.

[Morgan Creamin]

On BBFS my rule is I don't do that until I've verified they are on BC. Sometimes I'll even pay for an IUD at Planned Parenthood. Yeah, it is an additional expense but much cheaper than child support.

Just get snipped, man. For the cost (without insurance) of a couple sessions with a SB you won't ever have to worry about it again. Honestly makes a huge difference on the level of anxiety because you can never be 100% sure they are baby safe.

[Morgan Creamin]

Or just thank him for his intel.

Fair. And I meant to mention it. Poorly formatted intel is still intel. My bad.

[Morgan Creamin]

I guess the fun and excitement is gone because its just a lot of work.

It is but there are still good ones to be found. I think the trick is not to invest too much effort into any individual SB and move on the moment GPS, drama, or entitlement shows up. It only takes one or two successes that turn into recurring situations to make it worthwhile. I've got two right now who have open availability, love to fuck, and (so far) are reasonable human beings. Did I have to wade through a bunch of short conversations and annoying GPS to find them? Definitely, but that's that game whether you're mongering on a pro site, out in that dating world, or wherever you are.

[Marko Ramius]

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I guess the fun and excitement is gone because its just a lot of work.

Sorry for the rant but I think my time in the sugar bowl is over. I just have to come to terms with it now.

Yes, there are a lot of gurls out there asking for ridiculous amounts of money.

Generally if they are asking for more than 600 ppm I don't even bother with negotiating and move on. I find I can find more girls than I can ever fuck at 400 ppm with very open menus. On BBFS my rule is I don't do that until I've verified they are on BC. Sometimes I'll even pay for an IUD at Planned Parenthood. Yeah, it is an additional expense but much cheaper than child support.

The younger girls and the girls with higher asking prices are usually the biggest time wasters and worst flakes. And in my experience the very best service at the very best prices has been some freaky ladies in their early thirties.

[MilfHunter66]

Reading through the intel that is posted on here makes you wonder is it even worth the effort. Things have definitely changed in the last few years. Its harder to find someone and what there asking for is outright ridiculous. 600 for covered and they can't host? Maybe your lucky and can find a 300-400 one but more then likely there a pro or once was.

The amount of messages you have to send to find one real one that actually wants to meet is extremely time consuming.

I guess the fun and excitement is gone because its just a lot of work.

Sorry for the rant but I think my time in the sugar bowl is over. I just have to come to terms with it now.

[Marko Ramius]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...c-e0aa6df4e0ad

Vietnamese. Quoted 1600 for 3 h, didn't bother to even counter.

I've found the craziest GPS and the most restrictions and maximum psycho flakiness generally come from Asian SBs. Well, except for Pinays. If you find a naughty filipina nurse you have found a unicorn.

[Thefourtwo5]

Next time just put it all in one post, ffs. Read the thread for examples, not hard to find.

Or just thank him for his intel.

[Seattlebp]

Yana.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...f-5569e5d97e35

Looks cute, but kept talking about other topics when I asked for number, didn't get a quote.

Jade.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...1-985ad495880c

Young and cute, 500 ppm, ghosted me before the day of meeting.

Solo sweetheart.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...2-9de65d226acd

Real, 400 ppm, too tall for me, didn't repeat.

Kylee.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...2-4cf07d0aaef4

Real, her cousin is so cute LOL but not on SA, bikini barista, met once but very expensive, 400 h BBFS.

Sarah.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...9-2255651f169d

Real, friendly, 500 ppm cfs, cannot host, pics are outdated, may repeat.