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  1. #1271

    Depends

    Quote Originally Posted by Onelakerfan  [View Original Post]
    I have asked this question before but no one responded. Probably because it was a two part post. If a provider advertises almost daily in a couple of sites for several months, but either does not have any reviews or very little is said about her. Would you consider that a red flag and to be careful? Any thoughts.
    Depends on the lady and on the sites. Who have you been looking at?

  2. #1270

    Red Flag

    Not sure it's a red flag per se, but since there are no reviews, I would certainly put that low on my priority list. Remember, we're spending a fair amount of money on these people, and having been burned, I want to read reviews from trusted providers.

    DB.

    Quote Originally Posted by Onelakerfan  [View Original Post]
    I have asked this question before but no one responded. Probably because it was a two part post. If a provider advertises almost daily in a couple of sites for several months, but either does not have any reviews or very little is said about her. Would you consider that a red flag and to be careful? Any thoughts.

  3. #1269
    Quote Originally Posted by Onelakerfan  [View Original Post]
    I have asked this question before but no one responded. Probably because it was a two part post. If a provider advertises almost daily in a couple of sites for several months, but either does not have any reviews or very little is said about her. Would you consider that a red flag and to be careful? Any thoughts.
    I've wondered about this as well, there's this provider that has been advertising on LC and STG for a few months, but there's no review. I've texted her and gotten a menu but her location changes quite often, though all in SoCal. She also used 2 or 3 phone numbers in the past few months. I'm feeling sus so never booked anything.

  4. #1268

    Little to no reviews

    I have asked this question before but no one responded. Probably because it was a two part post. If a provider advertises almost daily in a couple of sites for several months, but either does not have any reviews or very little is said about her. Would you consider that a red flag and to be careful? Any thoughts.

  5. #1267

    Chinese Gamble / Fuck houses

    I've heard a few intriguing stories about some Chinese-owned, 24-hour private gaming spots that mostly locals go to (with rare exceptions). Does anyone have any real intel? Happy to trade useful info in return 😄.

  6. #1266

    Ice

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiapet93  [View Original Post]
    Just FYI, Ca law changed and requires cops to tell you why they pulled you over. So just learnt that LOL. Also, you don't have to discuss your day with cops whatsoever.
    This may be an I. C. E. Thing, but it works for us.

  7. #1265
    Senior Member


    Posts: 452
    Quote Originally Posted by YellowFinTuna  [View Original Post]
    LE can no longer ask YOU why you think you were pulled over. .
    I missed that change. I guess 2024 looking it up now, I obviously haven't been pulled over for awhile.

    Guess California finally did something right!

  8. #1264
    Quote Originally Posted by Vevor12  [View Original Post]
    Is this new? Last time I tried that he demanded me got out of my car and made a show about it on the side of the road with pad downs and everything.
    Typo in my last point; learn, not learnt.

    Here is a summary:

    Key Requirements for Police Stops in California:

    Reasonable Suspicion: Officers must have a factual basis to believe you've broken a law or committed a crime, not just a guess.

    State the Reason: Officers must tell you why they're stopping you (name, agency, reason) before asking questions related to a criminal investigation or traffic violation, thanks to AB 2773.

  9. #1263
    Quote Originally Posted by Chiapet93  [View Original Post]
    Just FYI, Ca law changed and requires cops to tell you why they pulled you over. So just learnt that LOL. Also, you don't have to discuss your day with cops whatsoever.
    Is this new? Last time I tried that he demanded me got out of my car and made a show about it on the side of the road with pad downs and everything.

  10. #1262

    CA Law

    Just FYI, Ca law changed and requires cops to tell you why they pulled you over. So just learnt that LOL. Also, you don't have to discuss your day with cops whatsoever.

  11. #1261

    Traffic Stop

    Quote Originally Posted by Taws6  [View Original Post]
    Several others have given good advice, and I will echo what has already been said, but a bit differently.

    In a traffic stop. Say you were speeding. Or whatever, the cop probably 99% of the time will as you "do you know why I pulled you over?

    They want to "get on record" that you voluntarily told them what infraction (crime) you committed, so if they ever go to trial, it's been documented so to speak.

    That's why you never, EVER admit guilt. Period.

    Additional info. Many here like to find "new" places. Ones without reviews. For someone new. Stick to the tried & true. Reviewed places. That have an incentive to keep the gravy train running.
    Great info but FYI. LE can no longer ask YOU why you think you were pulled over. The key with LE is to speak as little as possible and don't volunteer anything - "Anything you say can and WILL be used against you in a court of law. " Thank you Adam 12! https://www.kqed.org/news/11974283/p...rnia-heres-why.

  12. #1260
    Senior Member


    Posts: 452
    Quote Originally Posted by Skitexs626  [View Original Post]
    What do or should I do If and when that happens? It is certainly something I always fear that got caught with my pants down so as speak. Should I speed dial to a lawyer? I mean I read a few posts said we just keep our mouth shut and gives nothing out. Has anyone got legit answers on what to do? Begging for answers thanks.
    Several others have given good advice, and I will echo what has already been said, but a bit differently.

    In a traffic stop. Say you were speeding. Or whatever, the cop probably 99% of the time will as you "do you know why I pulled you over?

    They want to "get on record" that you voluntarily told them what infraction (crime) you committed, so if they ever go to trial, it's been documented so to speak.

    That's why you never, EVER admit guilt. Period.

    Additional info. Many here like to find "new" places. Ones without reviews. For someone new. Stick to the tried & true. Reviewed places. That have an incentive to keep the gravy train running.

  13. #1259

    Being new to the hobby

    I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume you're new to the hobby. Like I conveyed earlier, I've only had one real scare. Having said this, when I first started out in this hobby, I use to worry I'd be victim to a sting operation, then I read on this site, if you don't initiate sexual overtures, but wait for the provider to do so, then you are pretty much assured it isn't a Sting. My rule of thumb is, when going to a new place, wait for here to touch, tease or graze your gonads. No undercover cop will do that because of entrapment clauses. However, if a UC cop says something suggestive and you respond verbally and there's discussion of money, well then you're fucked.

    The probability of you getting bust at an MP is pretty damn low, so just relax enjoy and share.

    Good rule of thumb- "Wait for the grazing".

    DB

    Quote Originally Posted by Skitexs626  [View Original Post]
    What do or should I do If and when that happens? It is certainly something I always fear that got caught with my pants down so as speak. Should I speed dial to a lawyer? I mean I read a few posts said we just keep our mouth shut and gives nothing out. Has anyone got legit answers on what to do? Begging for answers thanks.

  14. #1258
    Quote Originally Posted by Skitexs626  [View Original Post]
    What do or should I do If and when that happens? It is certainly something I always fear that got caught with my pants down so as speak. Should I speed dial to a lawyer? I mean I read a few posts said we just keep our mouth shut and gives nothing out. Has anyone got legit answers on what to do? Begging for answers thanks.
    I can't imagine any defense lawyer advising you not to to do anything more than identify yourself and invoke your rights. Any more said, is likely to just make his / her job more difficult or impossible to succeed.

    Short of the lady telling LE that you paid her, there isn't much to be said about you being there. It is a place for massages, you were there for a massage at some point. Whether you are boning her, or FF her, makes no difference. As long as she doesn't give you up, it's two consenting adults doing things adults do.

    It will be difficult to keep that mindset, especially after LE says something like, just tell us why you are here and you can go home.

    Just don't be a jerk. Cordially invoke and the rest is likely to have happened no matter what you said. Now it's just a matter of, do you incriminate yourself, maybe to the point of having no defense.

  15. #1257
    Barring a sting operation or caught in the act (blow job, fucking, fondling etc), say as little as possible- do as little as possible. Remember, even places like Massage Envy allow you to remove your clothing. You didn't do anything wrong and don't admit to anything. You just went there for a therapeutic massage.

    There are probably some attorneys on this site that can give more detailed advice. Guys get in trouble when they start saying to much and self incriminate.

    DB.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skitexs626  [View Original Post]
    What do or should I do If and when that happens? It is certainly something I always fear that got caught with my pants down so as speak. Should I speed dial to a lawyer? I mean I read a few posts said we just keep our mouth shut and gives nothing out. Has anyone got legit answers on what to do? Begging for answers thanks.

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