LA J-Girls

[Therionrpg]

I think I would rather save up and go to Japan.

Three visits here in LA is a round trip ticket to Tokyo.

24,000 JPY / 60 min.

34,000 JPY / 90 min.

44,000 JPY / 120 min.

Todays exchange rate 156 yen to $1 so 24,000 = $153.

Saw this girl last year.

https://tokyonightstyle.com/girls/to...-shinjuku/lisa

Ordering poon delivery in La is anywhere between $50-$200 while in tokyo its included in price or it might be an extra 2000 yen depending on how far you are.

I will mention this alot of times there's a 10,000 yen upcharge for penis penetration so you end up paying 34,000 yen for 1 hour-75 minutes of play but $220 for that is still cheaper especially since you're getting a gorgeous and tight 22-25 year old at your hotel door. I ended up only seeing two girls my last trip to japan but both looked better then most of the asians I've seen in LA https://luxurykarin.eroticguide.tokyo/product/anjiera/.

Depending on the season, you can plan a short trip to Japan either a long weekend (Thursday to Monday) or midweek (Tuesday to Saturday). Nonstop flights from LAX to HND or NRT with good amenities average around $1,200 during non-peak times.

Budget about 300,000 yen (roughly $2,000 - good for 3 girls - I'm using soap) for and another $1,800-$2,200 for flights, hotel, and meals around $5,000 total for a comfortable trip. You can reduce costs by choosing simpler accommodations or activities, but the options I chosen and estimate for make the trip more relaxing (for which I have done in the past)

Making 3 to 4 of these short trips per year ($5k once a quarter) strikes a good balance you'll have access to a wider selection of experiences and likely spend less overall than in the USA, especially if you use credit card cashback, airline reward, and other programs. If you go less, it's better to play in the USA (I'm using MH's rates rather than K-org rates since for J-Girls I tend to go to MH more than if all to any K-orgs).

[Download X]

Interesting. I used to visit very frequently, but schedule changes forced me to cut my visits. I haven't booked since November. I hope I'm still considered a regular.

That's not a problem, they'll remember you a long time even years. They just don't want strangers. I didn't ask any more about it, they simply reminded me a few times on visits. I can vouch for friends but no outsiders. It is very important people only vouch for someone who won't cause problems. I'm guessing that's why they focus on regulars, who already know how things work. And to some extent, they may be focused on weeding out bad behavior. It doesn't mean they'll forget regulars.

I posted "Looks Only" rankings and separated out the corg girls. I used door knocking and JAV intel to increase my success rate, and the booker's intel is usually accurate even if limited. I want to point out something in the rankings:

Japan + Corgs
S-Tier: MH Yua, MH Yisaya aka BB Asuka aka MH Mitsuki, Etsuko aka MH Cherry

A-Tier: MH Malina C No1, MH Lily, MH Ayaka aka NYSE Umeko, MH Juliya, MH Yan Jia No2

B-Tier: MH Zhi Mo aka PPC Naya, MH Qiqi

C-Tier: MH Jiahui C No1, MH Emm No4, MH You Mei (No2)

The best looks girls I liked were Yua, Mitsuki, Cherry. MH Lily was the jgirl version of Baby Joo. MH Ayaka was so popular she came to MH three times in a month! That was unplanned (she changed her tour route), so people probably kept asking for her. I did a double take when I first saw her.

Due to door knocking, it's pretty much impossible for me to have a D-Tier girl. I open the door, smile, and say "Nice to meet you, I just want to meet all the girls." The idea is, I pre-planned to say hi to every girl and will decide after meeting the ones available. She doesn't even know if I door knock 1 girl or all 4, or who I'll pick. I then give her a 5 or 20 and wave goodbye 10 seconds later, it is fast. She smiles and is happy. Good vibes.

The reverse door knocking is after an appointment, I will peek at the girls available "for friends" or for round 2. It's the truth. So the door opens and I'll say "My friend was curious" and if they are cute I say so and give them 5 or 20. All smiles from her. One time, I was done for the day and the girl was DDG but I had no energy left to bang her. I simply said "My friend said you were so hot, and he's right". The truth. I gave her 20 and said I might see her next time. Then I mentioned her here for anyone interested. I could even describe her as high service by both booker and a friend with good standards, even though I did not bang her myself.

I tried doing the same thing with MH Malina, a cgirl friends asked about. So she opens the door and I'm on autopilot saying she looks cute and I just wanted to meet her for my friend. But my body was stuck in place, I couldn't leave. She was DDG and my type. So I ended up actually seeing a cgirl. She is an outlier and I don't expect other cgirls like her often.

There's not a lot of D-Tier girls but the booker was upfront "she is good service but older" (about 30s) every time. When booker said a girl was young, she was always young. Sometimes hot, sometimes butterface, but young. "Good service" was always true and usually means less looks. "Not recommend" means neither looks nor service.

I was told Mitsuki was "low service" so that made me rush to see her! ATF HYA. I was told MH Emm was good service, and she really was. I'd repeat her too as an exception, service was high level and a true nympho. The booker intel is decent, but limited. Remember that young doesn't mean hot, good service doesn't mean hot. Young means young, good service means good service. That part is accurate.

Sometimes in a girl's ad you'll see customer feedback posted. I don't know if all of them are real, but I've seen my own feedback on there. But the thing is, if I said "Mitsuki is so cute and amazing" that can be taken out of context. A HYA Hunter would agree with me, a Service Hunter would not. And booker said of her "low service" lol. It is tricky because Mitsuki has no tits but top tier face. Her body shape is like Nali before MMs and weight loss.

[Senexiratus]

It's a corg and they've said a few times they don't want new customers for now. Sometimes korgs do the same thing. They're probably focused on regulars:

Interesting. I used to visit very frequently, but schedule changes forced me to cut my visits. I haven't booked since November. I hope I'm still considered a regular.

[Download X]

Can you post the link to MH, not sure which org you are referring to? I am vetted with Candygirl, Rok M , and CaKDolls, so would like to try this.

Thanks.

SB.

It's a corg and they've said a few times they don't want new customers for now. Sometimes korgs do the same thing. They're probably focused on regulars:

The booker has made clear they aren't interested in new customers, they just want to take care of old customers and friends they vouch for. Hope that's clear, we are guests so we have to behave as good guests to be welcome.

[StudBucket]

MH has added a new rate for a 45 min session. Pretty close to k-org pricing now. Not sure if this just a new years promo or if it's a permanent thing.

Can you post the link to MH, not sure which org you are referring to? I am vetted with Candygirl, Rok M , and CaKDolls, so would like to try this.

Thanks.

SB.

[Download X]

MH has added a new rate for a 45 min session. Pretty close to k-org pricing now. Not sure if this just a new years promo or if it's a permanent thing.

It's a great idea. If enough people try it, it will stay. MH No4 is at 260hh, 320-45min. Since I generally need 30-45 mins anyways, this works for me and even beats korg pricing. I rarely need full 60min at korgs. With the MH 45 min pricing, you pay 23% more for 50% more time. Not everyone needs the extra time, so it's up to each guy's mood. BB Asuka used to say she preferred 45mins anyways (she dropped hh option when she was at BB) since she gets paid a bit more for fewer total appointments. When I did 45min, I felt like I could spend a few mins just checking her out and feeling her up before shower.

MH No2 is 240hh, 300-45. MH No1 is 260hh 320-45. All three jgirls, so if it's not busy you can browse. Sometimes I ask booker day ahead so I have an idea my choices (ex: occasionally a girl is day off, late start, or pre-booked). For cgirl lovers, MH No3 is a cgirl at 240hh, 300-45. Cgirls are generally strictly GFE only.

Corgs are also a bit more flexible on booking length. I will often tell them I want hr, but I can show up and switch to hh it's no problem. The girl will always ask you which you prefer, there's no pressure (most guys pick hh). Sometimes I vibe check the girl to decide.

When I had no intel, I would sometimes ask booker if I can see two girls and then decide. Yes, the mms will urge you to bang the first girl, but she also knows I'm thirsty and want to sometimes peek the 2nd. When I peeked Juliya first I was on autopilot and thought to peek the other girl to get intel, then I snapped out of it realizing I just saw S-Tier faced Team Seven. So I opened Juliya's door again 5 seconds later and walked in. Corgs are flexible like that, just communicate and have good manners. You don't ever have to tip mms but she always helps me so occasionally I tip her 10 or 20 anyways. She'd refuse but you can just insist again.

One last tip I'll add is this info is for MH regulars. The booker has made clear they aren't interested in new customers, they just want to take care of old customers and friends they vouch for. Hope that's clear, we are guests so we have to behave as good guests to be welcome.

[Adamska]

MH has added a new rate for a 45 min session. Pretty close to k-org pricing now. Not sure if this just a new years promo or if it's a permanent thing.

[James3431]

I think I would rather save up and go to Japan.

Three visits here in LA is a round trip ticket to Tokyo.

24,000 JPY / 60 min.

34,000 JPY / 90 min.

44,000 JPY / 120 min.

Todays exchange rate 156 yen to $1 so 24,000 = $153.

Saw this girl last year.

https://tokyonightstyle.com/girls/to...-shinjuku/lisa

Ordering poon delivery in La is anywhere between $50-$200 while in tokyo its included in price or it might be an extra 2000 yen depending on how far you are.

I will mention this alot of times there's a 10,000 yen upcharge for penis penetration so you end up paying 34,000 yen for 1 hour-75 minutes of play but $220 for that is still cheaper especially since you're getting a gorgeous and tight 22-25 year old at your hotel door. I ended up only seeing two girls my last trip to japan but both looked better then most of the asians I've seen in LA https://luxurykarin.eroticguide.tokyo/product/anjiera/.

[MistRum]

IMO biggest difference between first hand experience of going to Japan vs local J girl scene is finding girls who are willing to offer rimming.

[Download X]

MH No4 Lingye Sisi is her. I believe she mentioned she worked in NY before coming to work in LA (my memory is fuzzy. Post nut LOL).
Her extras are below
口爆：+100 毒龙：+100 第二次：+200 带脸摄影: +500

Great info! Glad JAV girls are back and that MH No4 is the JAV girl (Ayano Rizu). She is a petite spinner which isn't going to change. Her debut AV was an alternative look and she was marketed as a Tiktok girl, so I remember it from back then (see attachment). She debuted at 20 but it's been years so her look must have changed. Her proportions were good, not exactly Team Seven but definite spinner. The previous screenshots speak for themselves.
https://xslist.org/en/model/19613.html

I'll just mention that in screenshots, it's enough to crop 20% of the face or have hair covering the face. It fails an automated matching system, which is all I aim for. Also, faces from many years ago tend to change enough to fail too, so does enough PS. You can see when a ton of false posities show up for PS'd faces, then only a guy who actually saw the girl could hope to pick out the right one. It's impossible otherwise (too many false positives).

MH No4's upcharge pricing is interesting, for example anal at 100 is pretty cheap. To compare, in OC CAKD Korkoro J is offering anal at 300. It is not often for anal to be offered at all, so I always look at it half glass full that it's an option for guys who want it. It will depend on the guy's size and compatability, so always ymmv. I don't go in expecting it at all, too ymmv but you can just ask.

Msog at 200 and video at 500 is pricey, but you could look at it the other way that some girls don't offer it at all. I'll talk about msog specifically. I am usually a 1-shot guy unless I book 2 hours, so for 1 hour appointments I take a break in the middle. They count by nut/shots so taking a break doesn't count normally. But whether I had a shot or not, if I see the girl hesitate for round 2 I offer a tip. Making the girl feel safe and comfortable goes a long way here. For example, at korgs some girls are written out as no msog but I get msog from them anyways. It's probably because we are getting along, she feels safe and comfortable, and I'm making her feel good anyways. I also vibe check girls to rule out obvious GPS. Manners and behavior increase your success rate, but let's say 80% success rate.

With the kgirls who said no msog, sometimes could not find anyone else who got msog from these kgirls even when they let me for a tip. Otherwise I would report it as intel (intel = useful and repeatable). So that's why I give this as a general tip instead (a ymmv tip). Certainly, I've been denied too. Evian said "one shot only". I then repeated her many times and once we vibed she would let me take a break (still 1 shot), but had her limits. Working with a girl's limits goes a long way to leveling up with her. After knowing her much longer and vibing even better, no problem. I never pressured her, it was no problem and natural. That is the irony, if you want something too much and pressure a girl that's not offering it, then you won't get it. But if you are happy to repeat a girl no matter what, things sometimes change naturally.

[Therionrpg]

MH No4 Lingye Sisi starts today. JAV ads have been the girl maybe 75% of the time in the past, but recently it hasn't panned out. So all I can do is leave info on the JAV girl in case it really is her. I don't know if it really is, so this is an educated guess type of intel.

The JAV ad girl is yano_purple aka Ayano Rizu. It's been 5 years since her last JAV and 7 years since her JAV debut. She is a spinner, white skinned, small tits, her face is cute. She is comfortable sucking and fucking on camera for a tip (usually 200) - with JAV girls it's obviously less of an issue. Some JAV girls actually improve their looks since JAV days (ex: Yanjia and Yua), while others simply age a bit. Others still get some plastic including MMs. No way to tell except by showing up and seeing for yourself. I considered doing it today, but other plans got in the way. Some resources
https://xslist.org/en/model/19613.html yano_purple info
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7108468 How to Research JAV Guide

Using my own research guide, you can see yano_purple has starred in films like "I Got My Brains Fucked Out By A Dirty Old Man" and "Kinky Sex With A Blonde Attention *****". I assume she no longer has the alternative look. But she's still going to be a petite spinner, that won't change.

MH No4 Lingye Sisi is her. I believe she mentioned she worked in NY before coming to work in LA (my memory is fuzzy. Post nut LOL).
Her extras are below
口爆：+100 毒龙：+100 第二次：+200 带脸摄影: +500

[Ampfinders]

I enjoy some THC myself when I'm there (easy, no hassle, have my own mini list I go through). But you are forgetting to include any secret menu costs (20 k-50 k is the range most guys see).

Correct. The add on's can add up. In Fukuoka, the walk in shops, FS is included, same in Okinawa I had an Ojisan pull out the price list and they also offer BBFS 10,000 extra Secret Soap Course.

https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/okinaw...nouejyogakuin/

[Download X]

I enjoy some THC myself when I'm there (easy, no hassle, have my own mini list I go through). But you are forgetting to include any secret menu costs (20 k-50 k is the range most guys see).

I do enjoy the longer sessions personally which is better for cost than seeing a jgirl here.

But yea, for doing just an hour its around the same cost or more. No hate, just wanted to add on.

Yes, I have heard some surprising tip requests from THC based on reports. It's almost always THC. I guess THC girls are simply asking for more, and a few of them have GPS. Knowing that, I avoid THC except to browse for specific JAV starts I recognize and like (I tried to book Erica Ozaki).

At TAE fs is 0k-30k (yes, a few girls are free), bb is 0k-20k (if offered at all), video is 0k-30k (if offered). You're right that the 2 hour bookings tend to being discounted. So between TAE, Gingira, and Arigatou agencies I would pay $250-$350 for just fs 1hr, or $500-$650 for 1-2hr bb video when full upcharge. At MH it's $750 to 1K for 1 hr full upcharge depending on the girl. The reall magic happens when you find your ATF, you can just repeat her cheap and do 2 hours. Otherwise, yes it's not a big advantage.

I can't count korgs in the comparison because they have never had a girl at the same level of Gingira or MH. Gingira and MH have some S-Tier jgirls, korgs don't and max out at A-Tier. Gingira Nanase would be a 500hr or 600hr jgirl here. She is Baby Sol with a better body, a much better face, younger, and high service. And Sol is busy enough as far as girls go at 400 hr.

There are higher end shops where fs and sometimes bb is included. Etoile was a high end soapland at $500 for 2 hours, fs and bb included. It is a high end soap with high tier girls, so you get what you pay for there. A friend recommended Elise and Ask for DH with high tier girls. He said fs was always included, but I never got around to trying it so can't personally confirm. As I said, I'm not even into DH. I don't even recommend DH unless you live somewhere you can't get jgirls locally, or you're going to Japan anyways for something else. That includes the many people who don't use MH (including me at the time - they ghosted me). Since I'm in Japan for other things and tried it out, I'm passing along what I experienced to help others who are about to set sail.

I feel like THC simply has better marketing, because many have complained about high tip requests. You could say there are two types of DH in Japan - THC and every other shop. So there are many who don't recommend THC, but I always keep an open mind and try different shops to report back on. Some resources:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3001761 Shop Info
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/shop-list/ Foreigner Friendly Tokyo Shops
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1307/ask-tokyo/ Ask Tokyo
https://elise-tokyo.com/ Elise

[Im Myself]

I think I would rather save up and go to Japan.

Three visits here in LA is a round trip ticket to Tokyo.

24,000 JPY / 60 min.

34,000 JPY / 90 min.

44,000 JPY / 120 min.

Todays exchange rate 156 yen to $1 so 24,000 = $153.

Saw this girl last year.

https://tokyonightstyle.com/girls/to...-shinjuku/lisa

I enjoy some THC myself when I'm there (easy, no hassle, have my own mini list I go through). But you are forgetting to include any secret menu costs (20 k-50 k is the range most guys see).

I do enjoy the longer sessions personally which is better for cost than seeing a jgirl here.

But yea, for doing just an hour its around the same cost or more. No hate, just wanted to add on.

[Download X]

While I appreciate Download X's comments, after experiencing Japan and US multiple times, I came to the conclusion that for the time and value aspect of things, I prefer New York and California agencies for J-Girls if in the states. They vet girls, ensuring a higher chance of finding attractive performers who travel abroad for better pay. New York agencies tend to have the top choices, and I also like MH in LA and CAKD in OC.

In contrast, regarding DH, I feel that many have been butterface and the extra menu add-ons is fairly close to going directly to a soapland where you are guaranteed a certain level of service. Hence, value-wised, let's assume the total is 100,000 yen, going to a soapland for that 2 hour is better spend than using a DH. Looks over service is my criteria and I got more hits through the soaps (100 k+ yen) versus the high end DHs (with the expection of Gingira where most (if not all) are hotties).

Secondly, going to MH in LA is a breeze, no need to pay for parking / less traffic. Same can be said for CAKD in OC. If a J-girl is hosting in K-town (if she works in K-org), it's usually a lower tier girl that is not popular in other shops or she is at the end of her tour and using her last few days to work at the shop before returning home.

Nevertheless, you can't go wrong with the options available. Yes, you might pay more here than in Japan, but factoring in time and flight costs, you'll have to spend more days in Japan to eventually get your money worth which may be possible for some and might be impossible for others. To get savings, you'll have to travel 4 times to Japan every year with about 6-8 hours of play time assuming a short 3-4 day visit every time. If your stay can be longer, you will get savings even faster.

I generally agree, it only makes sense in specific situations like if you're going to Japan anyways. The thing is, I don't necessarily recommend DH to anyone. But people keep asking about it. I wrote lots of oppai pub guides including my first one 22 years ago, but all 80% of people wanted to know in their replies was about fs options like DH. I wanted to help them avoid shipwreck since they were sure they wanted to sail.

Like you, I prefer korgs and MH for the convenience. But if I'm in Japan anyways, I'll use DH. I myself go for things I can't get in the US, like oppai pubs. I tried DH out of curiosity and also to book ATFs I knew from the US, and it was at least better than expected. But I still intend to do most of my visits in the US like you.

I've pointed out that there are stretches where there are zero good jgirls in Socal, and MH is not an option for many. Including of course those not in Socal. The guides are on ISG for people in every city or country, and I was just pointing them out here since some intended to try the pilgrimage. In my initial DH guides, I emphasized that the RLD of Japan is just 25% of my fun. I like Japan's food, I like the sightseeing, I'm shopping and visiting friends. I literally buy a suitcase full of groceries on my last day and haul it back to the US. With that context, it's more worth it. But I'm not going to do it often. And like I said, I'm really going for oppai pubs and new experiences which don't exist in the US.

Not just sightseeing experiences but also even meeting JAV stars like Red Dragon and SOD Land. I met my #1 JAV star, it was surreal. The moment I entered her floor / bar the staff urgently informed me that Hizumi Maika does not offer OTC (apparently most girls at SOD Land do, it's literally spelled out on the website and legal since it's considered sugaring once you meet them in person).

One nuance is that if you go often, you figure out how to get hot girls better. No different than if you live in Socal, you get better at it versus someone visiting from out of town. That's another reason I give intel, so people can find the hotties if they choose. You can see many guides emphasizing that if you want looks, use Gingira. If you want cheap and amateur girls including the GND butterfaces, use TAE (Tokyo Amateur Escorts). On ISG we have been more than upfront with I think 10 PSAs between me and another reviewer that TAE has some "young amateur butterfaces" (they also have some hotties, you just need some intel). That's actually not much different than korgs and MH btw.!

If you want a wide variety including some JAV options, use THC (Tokyo Hentai Club). It is about matchmaking on a meta level. Only after trial and error and comparing notes with friends, did I confirm these details with my own body and eyes. So I have no trouble finding the girls I like and cheap. Gingira Nanase looked better than her ads, Ichika Nagano looked way better than her JAV days. As I mentioned, the oppai pub girls are super hot but they don't bang and I don't recommend trying to OTC them (there are better options). Getting into Hosekinobako is not that hard, just go with a Japanese friend.

The Learning Curve
I do feel like a true beginner is going to need trial and error, which is the essence of what you're pointing out. You're right. Only go if you are scratching the itch of adventure so to speak, if you simply love Japan overall and this is a side bonus. Adventure counts for something to some people, it's exactly how I saw it. I did find that there were guys from LV or Hawaii and other regions where it worked for them. I was also often helping people see their ATFs in Japan UTR, girls they had a special connection with that they could never again meet in the US. Myself included. So DH was simply a backup option. Hope that context makes sense.

I even dared to try booking a duo with one of my ATFs and an S-Tier DH girl to surprise her, but of all ironies she was in the US while I was in Japan.

I get that everyone starts out as beginners, and they could potentially waste money at the start. That said, I didn't spend close to what you are quoting and that was even with two S-Tier girls I saw. One was including fs, with bb, and with video. S-Tier service. But for the reasons you're aware of, I don't strongly recommend DH because there is a learning curve and if you don't use intel you won't find the hottest girls often. I've been going more than 20+ years, and like I said girls were just 25% of my reason. I wanted an adventure.

For budget options, this was the exact breakdown of TAE pricing. And to be clear, a ton of Socal jgirls both at korgs and MH were butterfaces. Not as much as budget options like TAE, but more than Gingira and THC:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3016039 TAE price breakdown

About TAE, they are a budget option so you get what you pay for. Once I found a girl I liked, I booked her almost two hours (110 minutes). It is so cheap! It was 40700 yen ($276) for 110 minutes versus 27500 yen ($186) for the normal 65 minutes. I tipped her too for fs, bb, video all in one (I simply offered a tip for all three together).

Butterfaces
About butterfaces. For better or worse, a few of my ATF Socal jgirls are butterfaces because they checked other boxes well. I am in a position where I repeat butterfaces but try my best to warn others who are "face first" about them. One friend who wanted to see Baby Sol asked me four times "but how is her face" and I kept telling him she has a top tier team seven body and her face is plastic so it is ymmv and up to taste. She may be ATF level for me, but I get that other guys have specific requirements. He finally saw her and said she was exactly as I described lol.

In many of my guides on ISG I remind people I simply don't think Japan is worth going to for just DH / soap. Unless you are from Asia or Hawaii or some dead zone for jgirls for example. Lastly, I will share that I've know people coming back from Thailand who have noticed big price hikes and GPS there. It is still good, but no longer a no brainer destination.