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  1. #20176

    A polite request for recomendations

    Hi, I'll be visiting Monday and would like to ask for some recommendations clubs. I prefer athletic women in their 20's, no preference on race. I've been in the hobby for awhile, but have yet to have any fun in the club. I appreciate all the help, and if there are any other providers I should see while I'm here please let me know!

  2. #20175

    Henry's, Friday 12-26

    So, I went over to Henry's earlier. I got there around 5:30, and the day shift was pretty dead. There were only six dancers, which surprised me, since I expected more after the holidays. Unfortunately, neither Yesna nor Sunflower was there. I'd really like to have a repeat performance with Yesna sometime in the near future. Of course, Sunflower remains a favorite of mine. She gets me off really well and I've never had a bad experience with her. I'm not sure if she knows that I write reviews or not, but if so, you'll have to let me know when you're working again.

    For most of what remained of the day shift, I spent my time talking with the bouncer at the door and his friend. Rip is very friendly, and I always enjoy hanging out and chatting with him. A bit later, the owner came over and offered all of us cheeseburgers, which was very nice of him to do.

    I stuck around for the night shift, and while it wasn't very busy, Dream was there. She seems to be at Henry's more often than at the Criket these days, though she still goes back and forth. I told her she needs to add more pictures to her Instagram, since she has a fan club. We went back and, as always, had an enjoyable visit.

    On my way out, as I was walking to my car, I saw Aaliyah walking in and said hello. Since we haven't really had a chance to talk, I'm still looking forward to it. If I'd known you were going to be there earlier, I would've stuck around longer.

  3. #20174
    Quote Originally Posted by ProjectCastor  [View Original Post]
    Stopped by Landing on a recent Friday afternoon. Friday afternoons continue to be pretty light in terms of talent- but sometimes it's the only free time I have. Today was no exception- only about 8 girls mid-afternoon and probably not many more customers. Girls I noticed were Amber, Violet (yes she's apparently back for a while), Paris (new to me- chunky white blonde), Jasmine, Mandy, Selena, Liliana, and Cici. Decided not to venture into unknown territory so stuck with Mandy who, in my opinion, is very reliable and accommodating, if slightly more expensive- but she was also a few notches above the rest of the talent there today.
    Is Katie still working there?? I never see any reports on her anymore.

  4. #20173

    Really interesting approach. I'm going to steal that.

    Quote Originally Posted by MareloboMex  [View Original Post]
    Strange I get asked for tips frequently.

    I do not think people should most of the time. I agree that you negotiated at the table for a fair price, and unless she does something exceptional, then a tip is not warranted.

    I do think tipping is a great negotiating tool. Regardless of what I negotiate I always have an extra $20 for a tip. I find that amount is highly appreciated and can be given as a bill.

    When I am with a new girl, I will often tell her that if I am completely satisfied with the session I will add a tip. Or let's say she wants $300 and I offer her $200. She replies meet in the middle at $250. I will counter that and say I am comfortable at $230 and I will give a $20 tip if I am completely satisfied with the session. I am honest in my assessment, but if she give me an unresponsive hug or tells me I am going to slow, then I don't pay the tip part.

    If I see 10 girls it is likely that only 2 or 3 will earn my tip. And since I like to repeat I don't tip every time. For example if she has what I perceive to be an orgasm (yes I know girls are good at faking) I might tip for that. If the next she doesn't have an orgasm or I think she is faking then I don't tip her.

    Similarly I have had girls say they thought their session merits a tip. I respectfully decline, and they often offer can they do something else for tip. I might say send me a naked photo, or let me follow you on social media. To me those things are worth a tip.

    But I do admit my favorite girls who I will see multiple times and have learned what I enjoy and are happy providing it to me earn the vast majority of my tips. I think the girls absolutely deserve it. If I am not sure a girl deserves a tip then I won't tip her which the vast majority of the girls I try out.

    Tipping sets a bad expectation and girls should not expect tips from most guys, they should earn those tips.

    JOC thinking about this now, I know girls talk and perhaps you don't get asked because you have reputation of not giving tips, and I get asked because the girls know I have tipped other dancers before and have a reputation for giving tips. This is interesting and requires more thought.

    MM.
    Really interesting approach. I'm going to steal that. Thanks for sharing as always.

  5. #20172

    Agency

    Quote Originally Posted by Arianabp  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the advices and noted.

    What about the girls at De Javu, would you consider them independent or agency? I know their room is overpriced but the one at Lansing have good deals sometime and I still go.
    The escort agencies that I was referring to in that previous post, were companies that you would call and request an escort. You would find them in those big, thick Yellow Pages Directories and newspapers like the Metro Times. I assumed that the internet put most of them out of business, but I Googled "Escort agencies in Detroit" and there was at least one (The Asian Hotel / Apartment agencies is still a valid business model though). The tipping viewpoint was that the girl deserved a tip was because the agency took a big cut of the payment. Detroit HAD active escort boards for years, so except for Asians, I never found the need for an escort agency. I'm guessing that the agencies mostly served traveling businessmen.

    A lifetime ago when I was 19, I was best man for a wedding. Where does a clueless 19-year-old find a stripper for a bachelor party? An ad in the Detroit News sports section, that's where (I can't remember the last time I read a physical newspaper). I called and ordered a stripper, what a concept for a zit-faced boy with a perpetual boner LOL. I guess this could be considered a Stripper agency. An older and wiser guy would probably just ask a favorite girl from one of the local strip joints to show up at the bachelor party, and cut out the middle-man.

    So when I described tipping agency vs independent escorts, that's what "agency" referred to. I'd describe Club Strippers as Independent because they do the legwork, and make the decisions, even though they give the club a portion of their take. Being Independent, she agreed to the price and should not expect (or ask for) a tip, and the guy should not FEEL OBLIGATED to pay more than the agreed price. A man may (at HIS discretion) reward her extra (cash, drinks, repeat business, etc). Personally, when I do give extra, I tell her exactly why she's getting a bonus. Then she knows a tip is not the status quo, she's getting extra because she gave extra, and she needs a repeat performance to get extra next time.

  6. #20171
    Quote Originally Posted by JackOfClubs  [View Original Post]
    I have almost never been asked for a tip, I have given them for exceptional service on occasion though, or I offer them a post VIP drink.
    Strange I get asked for tips frequently.

    I do not think people should most of the time. I agree that you negotiated at the table for a fair price, and unless she does something exceptional, then a tip is not warranted.

    I do think tipping is a great negotiating tool. Regardless of what I negotiate I always have an extra $20 for a tip. I find that amount is highly appreciated and can be given as a bill.

    When I am with a new girl, I will often tell her that if I am completely satisfied with the session I will add a tip. Or let's say she wants $300 and I offer her $200. She replies meet in the middle at $250. I will counter that and say I am comfortable at $230 and I will give a $20 tip if I am completely satisfied with the session. I am honest in my assessment, but if she give me an unresponsive hug or tells me I am going to slow, then I don't pay the tip part.

    If I see 10 girls it is likely that only 2 or 3 will earn my tip. And since I like to repeat I don't tip every time. For example if she has what I perceive to be an orgasm (yes I know girls are good at faking) I might tip for that. If the next she doesn't have an orgasm or I think she is faking then I don't tip her.

    Similarly I have had girls say they thought their session merits a tip. I respectfully decline, and they often offer can they do something else for tip. I might say send me a naked photo, or let me follow you on social media. To me those things are worth a tip.

    But I do admit my favorite girls who I will see multiple times and have learned what I enjoy and are happy providing it to me earn the vast majority of my tips. I think the girls absolutely deserve it. If I am not sure a girl deserves a tip then I won't tip her which the vast majority of the girls I try out.

    Tipping sets a bad expectation and girls should not expect tips from most guys, they should earn those tips.

    JOC thinking about this now, I know girls talk and perhaps you don't get asked because you have reputation of not giving tips, and I get asked because the girls know I have tipped other dancers before and have a reputation for giving tips. This is interesting and requires more thought.

    MM.

  7. #20170
    Quote Originally Posted by SopCop  [View Original Post]
    Has she been working there a few years day shift? I think I had VIP with her or someone that looks like her before the one time I was there so far. But was pretty wasted LOL.
    Yeah she has been there for a while, but very recently she stopped dancing and was working as a waitress. She also scrubbed her social media of all dance activity and was vlogging about her boyfriends re-entry and all that inmate stuff but I see that stopped and she is back on the stage.

  8. #20169

    5 stars

    Had a Saturday daytime off a few weeks ago and decided to give SC a shot, got there around 3 and it were not too busy, was approached by a mid 30's white girl named Stacy, a big boned girl with a mom body but she looked me in the eye when she talked, carried a level of confidence about her and she had pretty lips! I had noticed her once before in the summer and remembered she was quite popular -which all discerning mongers are aware that that popular equals good!!

    I negotiated a BBBJCIMWS for a fair price which she accepted which was a complete turn on in and of itself and off to the back we went, I'm telling you guys this girl is phenomenal! I didn't last half a song! She told me she only works Saturdays so I can't wait for the next time I have a Saturday off and can only hope she remembers me and is not too busy.

  9. #20168
    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitLife  [View Original Post]
    I see Diamond is back on stage at Flight Club. She was on that "I love my boyfriend" trip for awhile and was working as a waitress. I guess things didn't work out or the money wasn't right. She looks great and got a little thicker than this pic now. I have noticed more thicker girls and BBLs at Flight Club lately.
    Has she been working there a few years day shift? I think I had VIP with her or someone that looks like her before the one time I was there so far. But was pretty wasted LOL.

  10. #20167

    Thanks for the advices and noted

    Quote Originally Posted by FortyFour  [View Original Post]
    Number 1. I remember you admitting to being a Newbie. Being humble helped you get many replies from others, where you otherwise may have been ignored. Advice, stop with the abbreviations and don't start using any stupid codes like "Dreams, Roses, and $$. 5". It will NOT help you fit in, and will actually cause you to LOSE credibility. Stop with "BO" - it means body odor, NOT Bogarts. Speak like an adult and you'll gain credibility.

    Number 2. You ask about tipping. You're going to get several different viewpoints here from "Hell no" to "Always", with their reasons why. You won't find the right-wrong answer that you're looking for.

    I asked that tipping question many years ago about escorts. Escorts are not the same as strippers, and the fact that it was many years ago make my comments meaningless, but I am going to share them anyway. For escorts, the overwhelming tipping viewpoint from the guys was "yes for agency girls, no for independent girls". Even the girls at that time would say, "I charge enough. I'd rather that you see me again and again, than get an extra tip now". Again, this was years ago when escorts had more "honor" and business savvy. A stripper with that viewpoint i(rather than looking for a one-time cash grab) is likely to keep me coming back.

    I'd argue that strippers are independent, even though the club gets a "cut of her earnings". My thought on tipping strippers is NO, we made an agreement at the table for services and compensation. There is no expectation for a tip like there is for a waitress (where I always tip above 20% Yes, I have given strippers tips if she goes above and beyond (my definition what that line is). There's no doubt in my mind that she earned more than agreed, and I have no guilt in letting her know that. Yes, even without a tip, I'll let her know if I'm impressed and plan to see her again, and I honor my word. No, I don't make an excuse for not tipping. I believe that UNNECESSARILY tipping strippers does NOT make someone look like a "cool high roller", it makes them look like an insecure bumpkin trying to get a girl to like him (and the girl can tell the difference).

    So what should you do? If the girl rocks your world and you're tempted to ask her to marry you, tip her instead (humor font).
    Thanks for the advices and noted.

    What about the girls at De Javu, would you consider them independent or agency? I know their room is overpriced but the one at Lansing have good deals sometime and I still go.

  11. #20166
    Quote Originally Posted by FortyFour  [View Original Post]
    Number 1. I remember you admitting to being a Newbie. Being humble helped you get many replies from others, where you otherwise may have been ignored. Advice, stop with the abbreviations and don't start using any stupid codes like "Dreams, Roses, and $$. 5". It will NOT help you fit in, and will actually cause you to LOSE credibility. Stop with "BO" - it means body odor, NOT Bogarts. Speak like an adult and you'll gain credibility.

    Number 2. You ask about tipping. You're going to get several different viewpoints here from "Hell no" to "Always", with their reasons why. You won't find the right-wrong answer that you're looking for.

    I asked that tipping question many years ago about escorts. Escorts are not the same as strippers, and the fact that it was many years ago make my comments meaningless, but I am going to share them anyway. For escorts, the overwhelming tipping viewpoint from the guys was "yes for agency girls, no for independent girls". Even the girls at that time would say, "I charge enough. I'd rather that you see me again and again, than get an extra tip now". Again, this was years ago when escorts had more "honor" and business savvy. A stripper with that viewpoint i(rather than looking for a one-time cash grab) is likely to keep me coming back.

    I'd argue that strippers are independent, even though the club gets a "cut of her earnings". My thought on tipping strippers is NO, we made an agreement at the table for services and compensation. There is no expectation for a tip like there is for a waitress (where I always tip above 20% Yes, I have given strippers tips if she goes above and beyond (my definition what that line is). There's no doubt in my mind that she earned more than agreed, and I have no guilt in letting her know that. Yes, even without a tip, I'll let her know if I'm impressed and plan to see her again, and I honor my word. No, I don't make an excuse for not tipping. I believe that UNNECESSARILY tipping strippers does NOT make someone look like a "cool high roller", it makes them look like an insecure bumpkin trying to get a girl to like him (and the girl can tell the difference).

    So what should you do? If the girl rocks your world and you're tempted to ask her to marry you, tip her instead (humor font).
    I have almost never been asked for a tip, I have given them for exceptional service on occasion though, or I offer them a post VIP drink.

  12. #20165
    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitLife  [View Original Post]
    I see Diamond is back on stage at Flight Club. She was on that "I love my boyfriend" trip for awhile and was working as a waitress. I guess things didn't work out or the money wasn't right. She looks great and got a little thicker than this pic now. I have noticed more thicker girls and BBLs at Flight Club lately.
    Thanks for the photo, Diamond has a fantastic body!

    i never took her back though because she does not work the room, she almost never approaches or flirts with anyone, she sits in a booth on her phone , i have never seen her at the upper level. not sure if that is the best strategy but it is her MO and she has been there a long time so it must work for her. does not work for me though as i like it when a stripper comes up to me and tells me sweet little nothings

  13. #20164

    Daimond-FC

    I see Diamond is back on stage at Flight Club. She was on that "I love my boyfriend" trip for awhile and was working as a waitress. I guess things didn't work out or the money wasn't right. She looks great and got a little thicker than this pic now. I have noticed more thicker girls and BBLs at Flight Club lately.
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  14. #20163

    Tipping Strippers

    Quote Originally Posted by Arianabp  [View Original Post]
    Let's say you brought FS from a girl at BO for 200. Do you tip after the service is performed? Is so how much? Also, are the girls expecting it?
    Number 1. I remember you admitting to being a Newbie. Being humble helped you get many replies from others, where you otherwise may have been ignored. Advice, stop with the abbreviations and don't start using any stupid codes like "Dreams, Roses, and $$. 5". It will NOT help you fit in, and will actually cause you to LOSE credibility. Stop with "BO" - it means body odor, NOT Bogarts. Speak like an adult and you'll gain credibility.

    Number 2. You ask about tipping. You're going to get several different viewpoints here from "Hell no" to "Always", with their reasons why. You won't find the right-wrong answer that you're looking for.

    I asked that tipping question many years ago about escorts. Escorts are not the same as strippers, and the fact that it was many years ago make my comments meaningless, but I am going to share them anyway. For escorts, the overwhelming tipping viewpoint from the guys was "yes for agency girls, no for independent girls". Even the girls at that time would say, "I charge enough. I'd rather that you see me again and again, than get an extra tip now". Again, this was years ago when escorts had more "honor" and business savvy. A stripper with that viewpoint i(rather than looking for a one-time cash grab) is likely to keep me coming back.

    I'd argue that strippers are independent, even though the club gets a "cut of her earnings". My thought on tipping strippers is NO, we made an agreement at the table for services and compensation. There is no expectation for a tip like there is for a waitress (where I always tip above 20% Yes, I have given strippers tips if she goes above and beyond (my definition what that line is). There's no doubt in my mind that she earned more than agreed, and I have no guilt in letting her know that. Yes, even without a tip, I'll let her know if I'm impressed and plan to see her again, and I honor my word. No, I don't make an excuse for not tipping. I believe that UNNECESSARILY tipping strippers does NOT make someone look like a "cool high roller", it makes them look like an insecure bumpkin trying to get a girl to like him (and the girl can tell the difference).

    So what should you do? If the girl rocks your world and you're tempted to ask her to marry you, tip her instead (humor font).

  15. #20162
    Quote Originally Posted by HornKnee  [View Original Post]
    My only regret really is that I didn't have cash left to tip Jasmine. She was really going at it and deserved a tip. But maybe I'll remember to compensate next time.

    As for the 2 drink minimum with SC, It's a little possible they were doing "surge" shit because of a Christmas rush or something. Or maybe that's just night time there. I forgot to add they wanted 10 bucks for the coat check too. I got the feeling they don't hit you for as much in the daytime. Maybe they do. Either way, I'm still hitting them up when I come back (whenever that is) despite all the fees. Literally the only girls there that didn't float my boat were the 2 skinny white girls they had there.
    HK,

    Jasmine will be thrilled to get your tip anytime you come in.

    I usually go during nights because I work during days.

    I leave my coat in the car or don't even wear a coat. It takes me less than 30 seconds to park the car and walk into the club.

    Don't knock skinny white girls, they are one of my favorite flavors.

    MM.

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