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[Big Zhang Mang]

No disrespect intended! I was trying to essentially get a better idea of the age of reviewers since it's not an abstract idea that someone 20-30 might have more insight into whether a kgirl is actually around their age or not. Experience matters, I'm not saying ones review is better than another just based on age. Rather in the pure pursuit of HYA, the more info for decision making and clarification the better.

This forum has gotten 10 x better with the help of people like boner and downloadx providing extensive quality info so shouts out to them.

I get where you're coming from and I do register that it's from a place of love for the game, my man. I too scratch my head at times when I read some of these reviews and I'm sure others are asking if I've had my eyes checked even. Haha! But that's why we need as much data points and points of reference as we can get. And upfront so we can easily process it all before the conversations fall into conjecture. Some dudes on here have a habit of posting their input which only lead to more questions. But Hey! At least they're trying, right? To be honest, I myself have a gripe that a lot of dudes on here still aren't familiar with the ABC's of titty sizes. It's all on Google! But WTF am I going to' do about? I can only contribute in the way that I can.

Regarding the actual age topic? A lot of us just don't fuckin' care to dedicate That much bandwidth into splitting **** hairs when it comes to the age thing. Especially when there's so many variables involved such as their self care routine, overall health, etc. A 20 yr old skinny fat chick that doesn't work out isn't going to' rock your world like a 25 yr old gym chick. They just don't got the pelvic floor to even compete! Now, if you're really a strickler about age, sadly you are in the wrong scene. Low 20's chicks are usually back at home overseas, in TJ, or on Fig. Fig, you can find them straight out of' highschool, but the C-Org, KGirl, JGirl scene here just doesn't produce them en masse. That's why chicks like Jenny K, Nali, Baby Peach, Baby Arin, Baby Sugar are all highly sought because their service, youth, and looks check all boxes.

But yeah. Don't sell your elders short, my man. My first time in Pattaya was back in 2008 and there were already old white haired dudes slingin' dick. It's only been that way since at LEAST the 1960's.

[Download X]

Does anyone know if baby aqua is the same girl as baby zoey was visited a while back ago. I think baby zoey at the time had blonde dyed hair.

I think Aqua is done with her OC tour today. In case I'm mistaken or for when she returns next month, I'll provide her full details. Yes, Baby Aqua is Baby Zoey. Generally well-liked.

Aqua - HYA. 20s, B cup MMs, very skinny, long black hair with some blonde highlights, nice ass that feels great, pussy is good. Good bbbj skills, enjoys sex. Looks Ranking: A-Tier. A+ Face, A+ Body if you like skinny. Body feels great. As with HYA, I'm pretty sure service and vibe depend on compatability. I vibed with her, so everything was great.

Aqua is very skinny like Heaven, just a bit skinnier. She is skinny enough you get a clear gap view of her pussy when standing behind her. She is kind of transitioning from brand new to experienced and knows her job. So It is safer for me to say HYA level service, but to a gentleman you'll probably get more.

I'll just point out that I never felt her breasts because I was too busy being amazed at her young skinny body and the things she was willing to do for me. It was a lot. As a result, I'm not perfectly sure they're MMs, but they looked MM. Best I can do, I am just giving my opinion. I thought to leave out MM just in case, but if I am at least 80% sure I'll list it.

Heaven K has roughly the same type of body as Aqua but white skin and natural tits. Heaven K's face is DDG, it is young and beautiful. But you guys already know that since you are all repeating her so much. She is strictly GFE. She has such beautiful cute feet, very well proportioned. Since I compare her to Heaven K, here is Heaven K:

CAKD Heaven K - HYA. Very beautiful, young, borderline DDG face, 20s, small B natural tits with good nipples, great young figure, skinny, good ass, good proportions, cute feet. Both her face and body are very nice. She has a fresh from Korea look and vibe. Very nice pleasing attitude with lots of tongue play. Really good hj technique. Full spread without asking, a bit naughty and very dtf. S-Rank looks, S- Face S- Body. Important: She has normal natural tits, strictly GFE only.

When girls show up from Korea, first few weeks they have a fresh from Korea look and vibe. I've seen it many times, including with friends. After my friends live in the US a few months, they lose that luster. It is a change in make up and style, they adapt to the more casual Socal vibe and looks.

Note there is a completely different Heaven in LA with CGLA.

Similar Body Types
Aqua and Heaven K are both 85% Team Seven affinity. Team Seven is very skinny and perfectly proportioned head to toe. Regardless of tits or face.
https://www.instagram.com/seb1nnn/p/DP8WzCWElW5/ Seb1nnn, 100% Team Seven
https://www.instagram.com/sh7en.18a/p/DFculPuyNl1/ Sheena, 100% Team Seven

Team Seven Affinity Scores
Seb1nnn 100% gold standard, Sheena 100%, Gingira Nanase 100% Jira 100%, Baby Sol 90%, MH Juliya 90%, Heaven K 85%, Baby Aqua 85%, Baby Minami J 85%, Tiana 85%, Nali 80%, FA Tomi 80%, Baby Mury 80%.

Gingira Nanase is available right now in Japan. Baby Sol and Baby Minami J are available right now in LA. I think Aqua is done. Most other girls will be back. Oh that's right, Nali is available in LA but is fully booked again. I will remind everyone I wrote out several PSAs about good karma and improving your chances on booking HYA.

Angel and CAKD Winter are examples of model-like bodies that are not short. They are tallish for Asians.

Photo Inspirations
I'm not very confident in this photo guide for Aqua, because it's not that close. So I'll call it just 'Photo Inspirations'. It is just meant to give the general idea of Aqua since I can't find anything better. First photo model shows the idea of a very skinny girl, but not so skinny she is showing ribs or unhealthy. Just a simply beautiful level of skinny with great body lines and a quality body. Aqua is a little more tanned. Second photo shows the general idea of her ass shape. She is very skinny but has a good as, it's not huge but big for a skinny girl. Her hair is not exactly this style but it is long and stylish, just with blonde highlights mixed in. Last photo is just showing what I mean when I say you can see a girl's pussy from behind, except Aqua's legs are a bit skinnier. Last photo gives a general idea of the back view. None of these models are going to be exact matches. Hope this helps for next tour, she will be back.

[IndieBoi]

Does anyone know if baby aqua is the same girl as baby zoey was visited a while back ago. I think baby zoey at the time had blonde dyed hair.

[Jackzter]

The disrespect of some of you "young" people. Lmao. 40-50 yr old dudes will have college aged kids with college aged friends or significant others. They been picking their kids up, dropping them off to soccer, cheer, band, the mall, dances, their college dorm room for a long while now. I'm 40 something now and I still actively go to clubs, raves, and festivals. Some of us have been banging 20 years olds for 20 years now, my man.

No disrespect intended! I was trying to essentially get a better idea of the age of reviewers since it's not an abstract idea that someone 20-30 might have more insight into whether a kgirl is actually around their age or not. Experience matters, I'm not saying ones review is better than another just based on age. Rather in the pure pursuit of HYA, the more info for decision making and clarification the better.

This forum has gotten 10 x better with the help of people like boner and downloadx providing extensive quality info so shouts out to them.

[Dr Thanos]

Yes she is.

Is she the swimmer?

[Big Zhang Mang]

I've been a long time 5+ year lurker and have been through some of the reviews firsthand. I was thinking with the increase in quality posts these days whether or not a mongers age would play a factor in what they consider young. A 20-30 monger would have a different perspective of young vs 40-50, no offense to the OGs out there! I'm a 25-30 Asian monger so I'll try to lead by example with my upcoming review of either Lizza or Arianna sometime this week. Just wanted to bring up the discussion to maybe further improve the accuracy of evaluations.

The disrespect of some of you "young" people. Lmao. 40-50 yr old dudes will have college aged kids with college aged friends or significant others. They been picking their kids up, dropping them off to soccer, cheer, band, the mall, dances, their college dorm room for a long while now. I'm 40 something now and I still actively go to clubs, raves, and festivals. Some of us have been banging 20 years olds for 20 years now, my man.

[Belly888]

Is she the swimmer?

[Osori84]

I've been a long time 5+ year lurker and have been through some of the reviews firsthand. I was thinking with the increase in quality posts these days whether or not a mongers age would play a factor in what they consider young. A 20-30 monger would have a different perspective of young vs 40-50, no offense to the OGs out there! I'm a 25-30 Asian monger so I'll try to lead by example with my upcoming review of either Lizza or Arianna sometime this week. Just wanted to bring up the discussion to maybe further improve the accuracy of evaluations.

Yeah, older guys would probably give the older providers a higher score and be easier on their looks; I see it quite a bit.

I have never really cared about any woman's age, either when I was a teen or all through life. If they look good, bring a good and playful attitude.

I don't really compare the girls; I just enjoy each one on their individual looks and see how their looks can change during the session. From the first meet, to being playful, getting into the sex and after a good romp in the sack! For me, they have gone from plain to cute to sexy / hot and even ending at beautiful.

Probably doesn't work for most guys, but it enhances my sessions and makes for a higher percentage of good sessions.

[Download X]

Amy V is still my favorite even though she pisses me off with her phone use after sessions, I haven't seen her since August so I'm not sure if she has improved on that negative feedback. She does have issues with keeping appointments. I would of seen her a few more times but she ended up moving the time or she took the day of the appointment off. Other than that still ATF.

For any guy who experiences this, I'll give my example.

After a really good first round with a girl, I saw her reach for her vape and her phone. I knew before I even met her that she was one of those girls that use a phone and ignore you. So I put my hand over her phone and said "no phone". So she didn't. She actually wasn't going to vape just in case, but I said "vape is fine". That's it. I don't want to be super strict about things, but the phone is a problem while the vape isn't.

Most girls that will use a phone don't abuse it. So I let them, no problem. They chat with me, ask me for lunch suggestions and look them up on the phone, but they're not absorbed by it. I know them well and don't mind. But a couple of girls act like they should just ignore you. If I find them super hot, I'm going to repeat them and keep that in mind next time. One strategy is to chill with them longer before the action starts, since I don't plan to play the whole time anyways. The other is to remind them no phone. Sometimes, I feel this from the vibe or a friend hints at it before I go in. I don't have an answer for every guy's situation, just wanted to share the two scenarios.

Sometimes, a girl takes a phone call during a session. ith one girl it happened right as we walked in before our session started. She knows me really well, so it's not a problem. I behave and don't make a noise, it is kind of fun. I am pulling off her clothes and kissing her body passionately, very quietly. I even bend her over and start eating her from behind. She acts like nothing's happening and keeps talking to her friend, telling her where to find something. Before I get to entering her, she finishes the call. Later on after our session is over, I suggest she calls her friend again next time I visit. Pro-tip notice how I don't use names in these stories whenever there are too many details, it is a good idea to keep the fun going. No one could complain this way, it is just a funny story.

Amy V is a fun girl, there's pros and cons to her as you know. If you like a sassy girl who slaps back, Ariana will do that a little especially if you vibe with her. She had me bent over slapping my ass many times. It is always spontaneous, she loves that stuff. She is not rough or dominant like Amy, but playful and a serial ass slapper. It never really hurts so I'm cool with it, it's a happy memory I have of her. Whereas Jenny K is also very playful but always gentle. Every girl offers something a bit different. In a few weeks, another kgirl will show up OC who's sassy level is in-between Amy and Ariana. Top tier pussy and she loves pound town, will review when the right time comes.

About keeping appointments, most girls are going to miss some appointments. It sucks for us, but I assume there is often a good reason. We don't want a girl to see us if she's sick or recovering, and it would be ironic if the girl took the appointment while not feeling well and we complained as a result. So it does fall under the honor system that we can expect occasional cancellations. These days, it's about 3-5% or 5-10%. 3-5% for short-notice cancellations (same day or day before), 5-10% if you pre-book long ahead. The higher rate is simply because when there's multiple days until your appointment there is a higher cumulative chance of something happening. I mentally prepare a backup plan if the cancellation happens.

[Download X]

I posted a review of Ariana on PLEASER but I guess it hasn't gone through yet. I agree with your method of review, I forget that reviews are going to be subjective by nature. Your reviews are great for someone like myself who is a more sporadic monger, would you say that Lizza is the closest to SS-Tier (idol-esque) currently?

The other replies are also correct, the age and race of the monger will influence their perception. I never really bother to ask straight up a kgirls as I figured that they'd lie anyways. I assume that the stats provided by booker are probably provided by the kgirl and the bookers never seen the girls before.

What's everyone's general age if you don't mind me asking? Just for reference.

Anyone can look up my opinion on looks in these rankings:
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7460555 "Looks Only" Rankings

Lizza is low S-Tier.

If a girl smokes and looks 40, then she looks 40. I don't care as much if she is actually 35, even if others do. So each person can just do their own thing and the rest of us figure it out. I know a girl who is 39 who will tell you she is 21. I think there's no point asking a girl her age. Minami J who just arrived in LA could pass as 19, but is about 22. So I just say 20s or early 20s. If two girls are exactly the same age but one simply looks younger and the other looks older, I want to know that instead.

Guys span all ages. Some guys are simply more reliable than others, I only look at reviewers based on past reviews. I would trust Boner's age guess more than ten random young guys. Some guys didn't grow up with Asians, or they did but have very strong biases. For example if a girl is ugly they add 5 years, if a girl is hot they subtract 5 years. We can't help these biases, so again I emphasize there are only two ways: Find reviewers that make sense to you, or average out everyone's opinion.

[Nomad Push]

Looking to see one of these 3 tomorrow. I don't do this often enough, so I try to find exactly what I like and go for it. This time, I am torn between 3 incredible choices after reading reviews.

Areum, Ariana (Aria), and Winter. They each seem to have their strengths and slight weaknesses, and I can't decide. There are a few details I wish I knew more, but I'll just list my preferences in order, and I hope you guys can help.

GFE (DFK) service Boobs ass Looks all the rest.

It's not said enough, but those of you who write these reports are the best and I don't know what I would do with you. Happy holidays everyone!

I can only speak about Areum as I have not seen the other 2. I can vouch Areum is a good time, she is def a pleaser, will stroke your ego, and DFK to your content. She is in her 30's for sure but has cute face, nice bubble butt, and nice boobs. She does do Pilates so she is somewhat fit. I thought from previous reviews she was a hard body but wasn't so in my case when I saw her in Oct. I don't think I read a negative review on her, she is very energetic and engaging.

[Jackzter]

Well, if we all just give our opinion and average it out, it's not far off. And that is going to be better than if it's just one guy reviewing and everyone silent. I can't force others to review, but I figure it would be even worse if I didn't. I always say my opinion is no better than any other. I am hoping people can combine my reviews with many others to compare. It refines the intel until there are few surprises.
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I posted a review of Ariana on PLEASER but I guess it hasn't gone through yet. I agree with your method of review, I forget that reviews are going to be subjective by nature. Your reviews are great for someone like myself who is a more sporadic monger, would you say that Lizza is the closest to SS-Tier (idol-esque) currently?

The other replies are also correct, the age and race of the monger will influence their perception. I never really bother to ask straight up a kgirls as I figured that they'd lie anyways. I assume that the stats provided by booker are probably provided by the kgirl and the bookers never seen the girls before.

What's everyone's general age if you don't mind me asking? Just for reference.

[Download X]

You have a good point of "for a kgirl", it's more accurate to scale them accordingly rather than to the highest standards of kpop idols. Itll just be harder to gauge since that makes things more subjective without a generic scale that anyone could recognize. Ariana was like how you described, good value but not exactly a S tier looker, with my personal scale of my past experiences, I'd probably give her a solid 8. 5 but I still have yet to find a DDG girl. I bet if a true almost kpop idol level kgirl were to hit the scene, the price and demand would be obvious.

Well, if we all just give our opinion and average it out, it's not far off. And that is going to be better than if it's just one guy reviewing and everyone silent. I can't force others to review, but I figure it would be even worse if I didn't. I always say my opinion is no better than any other. I am hoping people can combine my reviews with many others to compare. It refines the intel until there are few surprises.

To see exactly where I ranked Ariana:
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7460555 "Looks Only" Rankings

She is A-Tier bordering low A-Tier. Her face style is cute, whereas most guys prefer sexy. Her body is the same as Krissy's which is not skinny or thick but meaty yet petite. She is fit. I invite people to look at a dozen girls above Ariana on the list, versus a dozen girls below Ariana on the list. For example, some girls above Ariana are: Peach, Nali, Chanel2, Minji, Minami. Some girls below Ariana are: CAKD Yulie, Baby Arin, Baby Hami, Baby Blue, Jenny K. Out of those 10 examples, what percent agreement do we have? If the percent agreement is low, our taste is too different. If it is high, then there is some usefulness to my rankings even though we aren't always going to agree.

Compatibility in our taste means you could randomly see girls above Ariana and have a high success rate under the Furiosa principle. That is, you recognize some girls in my list and agree with the ones already above Ariana, so you can then reasonably see other girls above Ariana and expect a high success rate from that data sampling. I have no idea which girls each guy has seen, it is obviously a different list for each guy. That is the power of the Furiosa test. You sample girls on my list and if it makes sense to you, great. If not, don't use it!

Ariana - Good looks and service, good attitude. 5'0", about C cup natural and soft, tanned, very fit and petite body not fat not skinny. Some tattoos. Very playful, sassy, teasing me. Slaps my ass when I walk by her. I like her routine, bbbj is skilled, good cock worship, she knows what she's doing. She looks like Krissy's cuter younger sister. She can pass as Hawaiian, her face is cute, young, and exotic. Energetic vibe. Ad photos give the general idea but she looks younger than ad and more tanned. She is more cute than sexy. Important: Vibe is up to taste, hard to predict if you will vibe.

She has looks, service, and a good price. It is hard to predict compatibility, but she has many fans.

When I rank girls, it is for my taste alone. I then write out a guide on how to discount the girls I like if your taste is different. It is not meant to say other guys will rank girls the same as me. A guy who likes mature women, full bodied thick women, or sexy rather than cute women will have to shuffle girls around by 2 Tiers routinely. I am minority opinion when it comes to preferring cute. And while there are many guys who like skinny girls like me, so many guys do not. It is a great divide. I also don't prioritize tits (I like them but it's not required), which is a common dealbreaker for others.

It's been a while since I explained it, but the way rankings work is I rank girls in look to me from 1st place to 150th place. The top 4% are S-Tier by definition. The next 12% are A-Tier, and so on. The 2025 distribution looks like:
4% S-Tier, 12% A-Tier, 20% B-Tier, 25% C-Tier, 20% D-Tier, 15% E-Tier, 4% F-Tier

The 2024 distribution was slightly different with more D and E Tier "on the same scale" By design, this scale is "for a kgirl" you can actually book. The scale was set based on all girls I could book in 20+ years as well as by walking around many countries for decades. Once you start looking at unicorn pop stars, you get SS-Tier. However, there are way more C-Tier kpop girls than SS-Tier. Maybe they exist to make the S and SS-Tier girls look even better. They are backup dancers but don't know it, though they always carry that doubt in the back of their heads. Most kpop groups don't even have an S-Tier, so people cherry pick when they talk about hot girls or groups. We don't spend much time thinking about regular girls even though they are the overwhelming majority. The world is cruel.

Team Seven Bias
I have specific things I like a lot more than other guys. Girls that fit Team Seven for example go up a whole tier. Other guys won't see the appeal. In the Looks Only guide, I listed out 7 girls people should discount if they aren't into the petite, skinny, well-proportioned combo. Two examples:
https://www.instagram.com/sh7en.18a/p/DFculPuyNl1/ Sheena
https://www.instagram.com/seb1nnn/p/DP8WzCWElW5/ Seb1nnn
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...0&d=1758393079 Gingira Nanase ass (girl on left)
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...9&d=1758393079 Gingira Nanase body
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...2&d=1758393079 Gingira Nanase face

A few guys love it, most guys don't. Many guys don't realize this strong divide (being surprised at the other group). Just how taste works. So I try hard to describe a girl's type and appeal. More Team Seven examples in this post including White girls:

Gingira Nanase was S-Tier, Team Seven. If Team Seven isn't your thing, maybe the appeal isn't there since she has tiny tits. She looked better than her own ad photo, the photos don't do justice to her body. Her ass felt top tier, it is like a mini version of MH Cherry or Angel's ass. Btw I think three guys mentioned a strong resemblance between MH Cherry and Angel, they are similar head to toe and even have the same vibe.

[Solo Bolo]

I've been a long time 5+ year lurker and have been through some of the reviews firsthand. I was thinking with the increase in quality posts these days whether or not a mongers age would play a factor in what they consider young. A 20-30 monger would have a different perspective of young vs 40-50, no offense to the OGs out there! I'm a 25-30 Asian monger so I'll try to lead by example with my upcoming review of either Lizza or Arianna sometime this week. Just wanted to bring up the discussion to maybe further improve the accuracy of evaluations.

From my experience, the two things that affect age perception is a monger's age and how much Asian culture a monger is exposed to. Boner always says he's getting older but his age estimations are spot on and I'm always surprised by his kpop idol knowledge. Part of successfully hobbying is vetting reviewers - figuring out their preferences, judging their accuracy, and comparing their age estimates. Reviewer A's 8 might not be the same as reviewer B's 8, but it could be the same as yours.

For me, age is hard to tell because I usually ask a kgirl their age straight up. I get that working girls have incentive to lie about their age, but figuring out who's older is important in Korean culture (at least from my understanding, someone Korean can correct me if I'm wrong).

There have been a few kpop idol level kgirls in the past year imo, and have been well reviewed. But even kpop there are varying levels of attractiveness; not all idols look like i-dle Miyeon, Aespa Karina, or Ive Wonyoung.

[Oc Amper]

I've been a long time 5+ year lurker and have been through some of the reviews firsthand. I was thinking with the increase in quality posts these days whether or not a mongers age would play a factor in what they consider young. A 20-30 monger would have a different perspective of young vs 40-50, no offense to the OGs out there! I'm a 25-30 Asian monger so I'll try to lead by example with my upcoming review of either Lizza or Arianna sometime this week. Just wanted to bring up the discussion to maybe further improve the accuracy of evaluations.

I'll add, a 20's - 30's monger can more easily tell when a lady is close in age much more accurately than a guy that is in his 50's-60's. This leads to the 50's guy, calling a lady in her mid 30's to be in her 20's, as an example.