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  1. #1883
    Quote Originally Posted by CooperTown  [View Original Post]
    https://members.seeking.com/member/c...f-e1c33be4c9a1

    I saw her a few times and it went well. I know others have also. While she always needed money, she wasn't a ripoff until recently. She demanded I pay for her plane ticket or she'd expose me. She found my PII and threatened to contact my family.

    Avoid at all costs.
    I was with her somewhat regularly like 5-6 years ago. Started when she was a senior at UC.

    Was cheap and a real good time and even arranged some 3-ways with her college friends. But things started.

    To show signs of crazy when she graduated. Went to 400 hr plus. And would blow my phone up so often I eventually blocked.

    Thanks for letting the men know that the bat shit crazy escalated and for everyone to avoid. Good play, but not worth it.

    Sorry this happened to you Cooper.

  2. #1882
    Quote Originally Posted by CooperTown  [View Original Post]
    https://members.seeking.com/member/c...f-e1c33be4c9a1

    I saw her a few times and it went well. I know others have also. While she always needed money, she wasn't a ripoff until recently. She demanded I pay for her plane ticket or she'd expose me. She found my PII and threatened to contact my family.

    Avoid at all costs.
    They are interested in making $. They don't make it by contacting your family. Will likely move on if you don't pay.

  3. #1881

    Ariana

    https://members.seeking.com/member/c...f-e1c33be4c9a1

    I saw her a few times and it went well. I know others have also. While she always needed money, she wasn't a ripoff until recently. She demanded I pay for her plane ticket or she'd expose me. She found my PII and threatened to contact my family.

    Avoid at all costs.
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  4. #1880

    Gemini in Blue Ash

    This lady is playing games. She wanted me to video verify. I declined as politely as possible and suggested alternatives. She then intentionally and maliciously sent me in a wild goose chase, having me drive across the city for her amusement.

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...nati/196690356

  5. #1879

    Why use older pics?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDudeAbides3  [View Original Post]
    Thanks Trouble, appreciate you checking back. Now we know, and knowing is half the battle. Further proof that all the talking in the world is no match for just setting up an appointment to find out.

    I don't like how much this instance really blurs the lines between profiles that look legit and profiles that are fake, and I really don't understand why a professional companion who is already operating in the EU, and operating here with Touring Companions, somehow doesn't have actual real photos to share and must resort to AI images. I expect that Tryst and Eros are mostly scammers and OnlyFans shills at this point, but it disappoints me to see that P411 doesn't screen for AI images. Frankly as a pay service I expect better from them, perhaps unrealistically.

    If we establish that AI generated photos are a new normal, that only makes the scammers job easier, I think. This should concern everyone as we all move unwittingly forward into a brave new world where AI photos will be indistinguishable from reality within the next five to ten years. It's only going to become easier and more low-effort for anyone to post a realistic looking ad.
    It's money. Great photography costs money. The old pics do look like a somewhat younger version of Elizabeth. And they did just fine luring me and others in. A dollar saved is a dollar earned. And many providers do it. Agencies, independents, etc. So homework is important.

    FWIW, I would see her again. But I like providers in their mid to late thirties. She was beautiful, talented and giving. She's just not in her twenties anymore.

  6. #1878

    Use AI to detect AI

    Sorry for being late to the party but I have been busy. If you think a picture is AI generated or enhanced you can use AI. I tried a few along with this one and it did not find anything that would say it was AI generated.

    Now most of these ladies do enhance photos. It is much like that food you see in commercials. They always look their best.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDudeAbides3  [View Original Post]
    Spoke too soon, the picture is actually still up. Attaching. Real wrists don't bend like that.

  7. #1877

    The Slope Only Gets More Slippery

    Quote Originally Posted by TroublePlay  [View Original Post]
    Real. She is the girl in the pics. She is a little older and a little softer.
    Thanks Trouble, appreciate you checking back. Now we know, and knowing is half the battle. Further proof that all the talking in the world is no match for just setting up an appointment to find out.

    I don't like how much this instance really blurs the lines between profiles that look legit and profiles that are fake, and I really don't understand why a professional companion who is already operating in the EU, and operating here with Touring Companions, somehow doesn't have actual real photos to share and must resort to AI images. I expect that Tryst and Eros are mostly scammers and OnlyFans shills at this point, but it disappoints me to see that P411 doesn't screen for AI images. Frankly as a pay service I expect better from them, perhaps unrealistically.

    If we establish that AI generated photos are a new normal, that only makes the scammers job easier, I think. This should concern everyone as we all move unwittingly forward into a brave new world where AI photos will be indistinguishable from reality within the next five to ten years. It's only going to become easier and more low-effort for anyone to post a realistic looking ad.

  8. #1876

    Elizabeth

    Quote Originally Posted by TroublePlay  [View Original Post]
    Well friends, just because they are using AI to touch up the photos doesn't mean she isn't real.

    Real. She is the girl in the pics. She is a little older and a little softer.

    Beautiful blue eyes. You can get lost in them.

    MSOG. Sweet. Accommodating. Friendly. Ukrainian. Incredibly soft man mades. Minor scarring. Not an issue for me.
    Oh, one other important piece of information. This is her first trip to "America" as she calls it, (not the US or the States). Thats why she has so few reviews.

    She lives in Europe now and has for some time, including UK which is why her English is so good. She explained to me, (which I had once known and had forgotten,) that sex in exchange for money is legal in UK. It's taxed, although it's hard to account for it since so much is done off the books by cash.

  9. #1875

    Elizabeth

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDudeAbides3  [View Original Post]
    Well now I'm curious because you've done all the right homework and she seems to have legit reviews.

    Just to double check myself -- because I do make mistakes -- I ran one of her pictures through the AI detection engine on GoWinston. Ai. It came back with a 100% certainty that THIS image is AI generated:

    https://media-v2.tryst.a4cdn.org/pro...6ab/large.avif

    So this is a strange one. Maybe ask her about it and see what she says? I strongly suspect they're inputting her face into an AI and then generating a virtual photoshoot. Or maybe she is? I'd be curious what her story is.

    Be safe.
    Well friends, just because they are using AI to touch up the photos doesn't mean she isn't real.

    Real. She is the girl in the pics. She is a little older and a little softer.

    Beautiful blue eyes. You can get lost in them.

    MSOG. Sweet. Accommodating. Friendly. Ukrainian. Incredibly soft man mades. Minor scarring. Not an issue for me.

  10. #1874

    Lizzy

    Quote Originally Posted by TroublePlay  [View Original Post]
    They may be using AI to put pics together as was recently done with Princess Kate.
    Well now I'm curious because you've done all the right homework and she seems to have legit reviews.

    Just to double check myself -- because I do make mistakes -- I ran one of her pictures through the AI detection engine on GoWinston. Ai. It came back with a 100% certainty that THIS image is AI generated:

    https://media-v2.tryst.a4cdn.org/pro...6ab/large.avif

    So this is a strange one. Maybe ask her about it and see what she says? I strongly suspect they're inputting her face into an AI and then generating a virtual photoshoot. Or maybe she is? I'd be curious what her story is.

    Be safe.

  11. #1873

    Elizabeth

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDudeAbides3  [View Original Post]
    Definitely report back. There's no way those photos are real. My guess would be it's either going to be someone totally different, or Touring Companions is now using AI to insert a girl's face and then generate photos that are "representative", much like you can use AI to generate the "perfect headshot" for LinkedIn.

    This does not raise my opinion of Touring Companions, I have to say. Those four reviews on the oTHeR site are all complimentary and given within the last month or so, which would give me pause.

    Best of luck and be safe.
    Her right hand looks odd in a couple of pics. I have checked out the four reviewers who have all reviewed a number of high end providers. Some have reviewed the same providers I have seen. They look very legit. The reviews are recent because she is new. They may be using AI to put pics together as was recently done with Princess Kate.

    One reviewer and I made contact. He said it is her in the pics. He was unhappy because she only did one shot. No MSOG. So I'll take my time.

    No deposit. If she is not the girl in the pics, I can always walk away.

  12. #1872

    Intriguing

    Quote Originally Posted by TroublePlay  [View Original Post]
    I am seeing her tomorrow. I will let you all know.
    Definitely report back. There's no way those photos are real. My guess would be it's either going to be someone totally different, or Touring Companions is now using AI to insert a girl's face and then generate photos that are "representative", much like you can use AI to generate the "perfect headshot" for LinkedIn.

    This does not raise my opinion of Touring Companions, I have to say. Those four reviews on the oTHeR site are all complimentary and given within the last month or so, which would give me pause.

    Best of luck and be safe.

  13. #1871

    Elizabeth

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenal1  [View Original Post]
    I'm not doubting what you guys are saying, but just FYI, I know someone who can rotate her hand almost 360 degrees. It's the weirdest thing you'll ever see.
    I am seeing her tomorrow. I will let you all know.

    She is on p411 with 4 excellent reviews on TER.

    She is with a well known touring agency.

    Yes, totally possible that is a photo aided by cgi or ai. I will give you a first hand report.

  14. #1870
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    "Elizabeth"

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDudeAbides3  [View Original Post]
    Spoke too soon, the picture is actually still up. Attaching. Real wrists don't bend like that.
    I'm not doubting what you guys are saying, but just FYI, I know someone who can rotate her hand almost 360 degrees. It's the weirdest thing you'll ever see.

  15. #1869

    "Elizabeth"

    Spoke too soon, the picture is actually still up. Attaching. Real wrists don't bend like that.
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