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  1. #5922
    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    Well, if we all just give our opinion and average it out, it's not far off. And that is going to be better than if it's just one guy reviewing and everyone silent. I can't force others to review, but I figure it would be even worse if I didn't. I always say my opinion is no better than any other. I am hoping people can combine my reviews with many others to compare. It refines the intel until there are few surprises.
    :
    I posted a review of Ariana on PLEASER but I guess it hasn't gone through yet. I agree with your method of review, I forget that reviews are going to be subjective by nature. Your reviews are great for someone like myself who is a more sporadic monger, would you say that Lizza is the closest to SS-Tier (idol-esque) currently?

    The other replies are also correct, the age and race of the monger will influence their perception. I never really bother to ask straight up a kgirls as I figured that they'd lie anyways. I assume that the stats provided by booker are probably provided by the kgirl and the bookers never seen the girls before.

    What's everyone's general age if you don't mind me asking? Just for reference.

  2. #5921
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackzter  [View Original Post]
    You have a good point of "for a kgirl", it's more accurate to scale them accordingly rather than to the highest standards of kpop idols. Itll just be harder to gauge since that makes things more subjective without a generic scale that anyone could recognize. Ariana was like how you described, good value but not exactly a S tier looker, with my personal scale of my past experiences, I'd probably give her a solid 8. 5 but I still have yet to find a DDG girl. I bet if a true almost kpop idol level kgirl were to hit the scene, the price and demand would be obvious.
    Well, if we all just give our opinion and average it out, it's not far off. And that is going to be better than if it's just one guy reviewing and everyone silent. I can't force others to review, but I figure it would be even worse if I didn't. I always say my opinion is no better than any other. I am hoping people can combine my reviews with many others to compare. It refines the intel until there are few surprises.

    To see exactly where I ranked Ariana:
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7460555 "Looks Only" Rankings

    She is A-Tier bordering low A-Tier. Her face style is cute, whereas most guys prefer sexy. Her body is the same as Krissy's which is not skinny or thick but meaty yet petite. She is fit. I invite people to look at a dozen girls above Ariana on the list, versus a dozen girls below Ariana on the list. For example, some girls above Ariana are: Peach, Nali, Chanel2, Minji, Minami. Some girls below Ariana are: CAKD Yulie, Baby Arin, Baby Hami, Baby Blue, Jenny K. Out of those 10 examples, what percent agreement do we have? If the percent agreement is low, our taste is too different. If it is high, then there is some usefulness to my rankings even though we aren't always going to agree.

    Compatibility in our taste means you could randomly see girls above Ariana and have a high success rate under the Furiosa principle. That is, you recognize some girls in my list and agree with the ones already above Ariana, so you can then reasonably see other girls above Ariana and expect a high success rate from that data sampling. I have no idea which girls each guy has seen, it is obviously a different list for each guy. That is the power of the Furiosa test. You sample girls on my list and if it makes sense to you, great. If not, don't use it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    Ariana - Good looks and service, good attitude. 5'0", about C cup natural and soft, tanned, very fit and petite body not fat not skinny. Some tattoos. Very playful, sassy, teasing me. Slaps my ass when I walk by her. I like her routine, bbbj is skilled, good cock worship, she knows what she's doing. She looks like Krissy's cuter younger sister. She can pass as Hawaiian, her face is cute, young, and exotic. Energetic vibe. Ad photos give the general idea but she looks younger than ad and more tanned. She is more cute than sexy. Important: Vibe is up to taste, hard to predict if you will vibe.

    She has looks, service, and a good price. It is hard to predict compatibility, but she has many fans.
    When I rank girls, it is for my taste alone. I then write out a guide on how to discount the girls I like if your taste is different. It is not meant to say other guys will rank girls the same as me. A guy who likes mature women, full bodied thick women, or sexy rather than cute women will have to shuffle girls around by 2 Tiers routinely. I am minority opinion when it comes to preferring cute. And while there are many guys who like skinny girls like me, so many guys do not. It is a great divide. I also don't prioritize tits (I like them but it's not required), which is a common dealbreaker for others.

    It's been a while since I explained it, but the way rankings work is I rank girls in look to me from 1st place to 150th place. The top 4% are S-Tier by definition. The next 12% are A-Tier, and so on. The 2025 distribution looks like:
    4% S-Tier, 12% A-Tier, 20% B-Tier, 25% C-Tier, 20% D-Tier, 15% E-Tier, 4% F-Tier

    The 2024 distribution was slightly different with more D and E Tier "on the same scale" By design, this scale is "for a kgirl" you can actually book. The scale was set based on all girls I could book in 20+ years as well as by walking around many countries for decades. Once you start looking at unicorn pop stars, you get SS-Tier. However, there are way more C-Tier kpop girls than SS-Tier. Maybe they exist to make the S and SS-Tier girls look even better. They are backup dancers but don't know it, though they always carry that doubt in the back of their heads. Most kpop groups don't even have an S-Tier, so people cherry pick when they talk about hot girls or groups. We don't spend much time thinking about regular girls even though they are the overwhelming majority. The world is cruel.

    Team Seven Bias
    I have specific things I like a lot more than other guys. Girls that fit Team Seven for example go up a whole tier. Other guys won't see the appeal. In the Looks Only guide, I listed out 7 girls people should discount if they aren't into the petite, skinny, well-proportioned combo. Two examples:
    https://www.instagram.com/sh7en.18a/p/DFculPuyNl1/ Sheena
    https://www.instagram.com/seb1nnn/p/DP8WzCWElW5/ Seb1nnn
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...0&d=1758393079 Gingira Nanase ass (girl on left)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...9&d=1758393079 Gingira Nanase body
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...2&d=1758393079 Gingira Nanase face

    A few guys love it, most guys don't. Many guys don't realize this strong divide (being surprised at the other group). Just how taste works. So I try hard to describe a girl's type and appeal. More Team Seven examples in this post including White girls:

    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    Gingira Nanase was S-Tier, Team Seven. If Team Seven isn't your thing, maybe the appeal isn't there since she has tiny tits. She looked better than her own ad photo, the photos don't do justice to her body. Her ass felt top tier, it is like a mini version of MH Cherry or Angel's ass. Btw I think three guys mentioned a strong resemblance between MH Cherry and Angel, they are similar head to toe and even have the same vibe.

  3. #5920
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackzter  [View Original Post]
    I've been a long time 5+ year lurker and have been through some of the reviews firsthand. I was thinking with the increase in quality posts these days whether or not a mongers age would play a factor in what they consider young. A 20-30 monger would have a different perspective of young vs 40-50, no offense to the OGs out there! I'm a 25-30 Asian monger so I'll try to lead by example with my upcoming review of either Lizza or Arianna sometime this week. Just wanted to bring up the discussion to maybe further improve the accuracy of evaluations.
    From my experience, the two things that affect age perception is a monger's age and how much Asian culture a monger is exposed to. Boner always says he's getting older but his age estimations are spot on and I'm always surprised by his kpop idol knowledge. Part of successfully hobbying is vetting reviewers - figuring out their preferences, judging their accuracy, and comparing their age estimates. Reviewer A's 8 might not be the same as reviewer B's 8, but it could be the same as yours.

    For me, age is hard to tell because I usually ask a kgirl their age straight up. I get that working girls have incentive to lie about their age, but figuring out who's older is important in Korean culture (at least from my understanding, someone Korean can correct me if I'm wrong).

    There have been a few kpop idol level kgirls in the past year imo, and have been well reviewed. But even kpop there are varying levels of attractiveness; not all idols look like i-dle Miyeon, Aespa Karina, or Ive Wonyoung.

  4. #5919
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackzter  [View Original Post]
    I've been a long time 5+ year lurker and have been through some of the reviews firsthand. I was thinking with the increase in quality posts these days whether or not a mongers age would play a factor in what they consider young. A 20-30 monger would have a different perspective of young vs 40-50, no offense to the OGs out there! I'm a 25-30 Asian monger so I'll try to lead by example with my upcoming review of either Lizza or Arianna sometime this week. Just wanted to bring up the discussion to maybe further improve the accuracy of evaluations.
    I'll add, a 20's - 30's monger can more easily tell when a lady is close in age much more accurately than a guy that is in his 50's-60's. This leads to the 50's guy, calling a lady in her mid 30's to be in her 20's, as an example.

  5. #5918
    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    You can just say what you want. It's everyone's responsibility to know reviewers by looking at their review history. New reviewers are always welcome, and it's best to keep an open mind since they often bring a fresh perspective. The way I get intel is by comparing multiple reviews if possible, or knowing the reviewer well. So review the way you like, people would generally rather hear something than nothing.

    I know age tends to matter, but there are so many exceptions. Some older guys like older women, some older guys only like younger women. A few young guys even like older women, though it is rare. Each guy has their own way of thinking that is too different to classify by just age. I would say for myself, I have very specific and unusual tastes that have always been the same no matter what age I was. If I have unusual taste, it's not my age it's just me.

    There is the practical factor that truly young kgirls are a tiny percentage of kgirls, though that's improved recently. So when we say a girl is young, we actually mean "for a kgirl". Half the kgirls are MILFs! Even a 30s kgirl could be called young in that sense. Whereas 30s would be very old for a jgirl. I hope that makes sense, it's about expectations and it's why I try to give an age guess. That puts jgirls and kgirls on the same scale. If you know the AMP scene in Florida, even 40s would be young lol. The word young is therefore ymmv and even depends on the city.

    It's likely that a review from a younger guy will help other younger guys in some way. More generally though, everyone has a different perspective.
    You have a good point of "for a kgirl", it's more accurate to scale them accordingly rather than to the highest standards of kpop idols. Itll just be harder to gauge since that makes things more subjective without a generic scale that anyone could recognize. Ariana was like how you described, good value but not exactly a S tier looker, with my personal scale of my past experiences, I'd probably give her a solid 8. 5 but I still have yet to find a DDG girl. I bet if a true almost kpop idol level kgirl were to hit the scene, the price and demand would be obvious.

  6. #5917
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackzter  [View Original Post]
    I've been a long time 5+ year lurker and have been through some of the reviews firsthand. I was thinking with the increase in quality posts these days whether or not a mongers age would play a factor in what they consider young. A 20-30 monger would have a different perspective of young vs 40-50, no offense to the OGs out there! I'm a 25-30 Asian monger so I'll try to lead by example with my upcoming review of either Lizza or Arianna sometime this week. Just wanted to bring up the discussion to maybe further improve the accuracy of evaluations.
    You can just say what you want. It's everyone's responsibility to know reviewers by looking at their review history. New reviewers are always welcome, and it's best to keep an open mind since they often bring a fresh perspective. The way I get intel is by comparing multiple reviews if possible, or knowing the reviewer well. So review the way you like, people would generally rather hear something than nothing.

    I know age tends to matter, but there are so many exceptions. Some older guys like older women, some older guys only like younger women. A few young guys even like older women, though it is rare. Each guy has their own way of thinking that is too different to classify by just age. I would say for myself, I have very specific and unusual tastes that have always been the same no matter what age I was. If I have unusual taste, it's not my age it's just me.

    There is the practical factor that truly young kgirls are a tiny percentage of kgirls, though that's improved recently. So when we say a girl is young, we actually mean "for a kgirl". Half the kgirls are MILFs! Even a 30s kgirl could be called young in that sense. Whereas 30s would be very old for a jgirl. I hope that makes sense, it's about expectations and it's why I try to give an age guess. That puts jgirls and kgirls on the same scale. If you know the AMP scene in Florida, even 40s would be young lol. The word young is therefore ymmv and even depends on the city.

    It's likely that a review from a younger guy will help other younger guys in some way. More generally though, everyone has a different perspective.

  7. #5916

    Age playing a factor in reviews

    I've been a long time 5+ year lurker and have been through some of the reviews firsthand. I was thinking with the increase in quality posts these days whether or not a mongers age would play a factor in what they consider young. A 20-30 monger would have a different perspective of young vs 40-50, no offense to the OGs out there! I'm a 25-30 Asian monger so I'll try to lead by example with my upcoming review of either Lizza or Arianna sometime this week. Just wanted to bring up the discussion to maybe further improve the accuracy of evaluations.

  8. #5915

    Maya

    Quote Originally Posted by LeviDynasty  [View Original Post]
    I want see Maya or Selena? Thoughts Maya's service?
    I haven't seen her since she was in SJ, but she is straight service queen. You should do a search in the LA forums, you'll find plenty of reviews in both the pleasure report and korean BB threads.

  9. #5914
    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    So I will focus on your criteria of DFK and boobs since there is some differentiation. Ariana for DFK. Winter for boobs. I have not had a chance to see Areum yet but from overlapping reports I think you'd be happy too.

    There is another strategy. If you are on a budget like BB Yoda and can see one girl every two weeks, how to see all 3 girls eventually? Ariana is touring OC and potentially could leave any time appointments stop. Whereas Baby Winter is about to show up so there is potential she'll be here in two weeks. No idea. Areum sticks to OC long-term, but those things can change.

    Those are the two ways I'd look at it. Pick your priority spec and strategize based on your pace.
    I want see Maya or Selena? Thoughts Maya's service?

  10. #5913

    Maya

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishxgripper69  [View Original Post]
    I can confirm Vina is a rebrand of Maya. When I found out, I went to visit her like 3 x a week haha.
    Can why describe Maya service for me?

  11. #5912
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePatriot12  [View Original Post]
    Looking to see one of these 3 tomorrow. I don't do this often enough, so I try to find exactly what I like and go for it. This time, I am torn between 3 incredible choices after reading reviews.

    Areum, Ariana (Aria), and Winter. They each seem to have their strengths and slight weaknesses, and I can't decide. There are a few details I wish I knew more, but I'll just list my preferences in order, and I hope you guys can help.

    GFE (DFK) service Boobs ass Looks all the rest.

    It's not said enough, but those of you who write these reports are the best and I don't know what I would do with you. Happy holidays everyone!
    So I will focus on your criteria of DFK and boobs since there is some differentiation. Ariana for DFK. Winter for boobs. I have not had a chance to see Areum yet but from overlapping reports I think you'd be happy too.

    There is another strategy. If you are on a budget like BB Yoda and can see one girl every two weeks, how to see all 3 girls eventually? Ariana is touring OC and potentially could leave any time appointments stop. Whereas Baby Winter is about to show up so there is potential she'll be here in two weeks. No idea. Areum sticks to OC long-term, but those things can change.

    Those are the two ways I'd look at it. Pick your priority spec and strategize based on your pace.

  12. #5911

    I can't seem to decide, so I leave it to the council

    Looking to see one of these 3 tomorrow. I don't do this often enough, so I try to find exactly what I like and go for it. This time, I am torn between 3 incredible choices after reading reviews.

    Areum, Ariana (Aria), and Winter. They each seem to have their strengths and slight weaknesses, and I can't decide. There are a few details I wish I knew more, but I'll just list my preferences in order, and I hope you guys can help.

    GFE (DFK) service Boobs ass Looks all the rest.

    It's not said enough, but those of you who write these reports are the best and I don't know what I would do with you. Happy holidays everyone!

  13. #5910
    Quote Originally Posted by GoClippers  [View Original Post]
    Looking for most magnum friendly providers currently in the area. Any recommendations? Just got turned away yesterday for the first time by a korg provider 😐.

    Got inside, she dove right in with BBJ and once it grew to full size she was very apologetic and said no I'm sorry take your money but we have to cancel. It's been commented on before but always was able to work around it, I'm ok with taking things slow and gentle and not just pounding them out haha.
    That happened to me with White.

  14. #5909
    Quote Originally Posted by Bribs000  [View Original Post]
    Here's my opinion as a HYA jgirl hunter. Most jgirls are on the younger side, I'd say mid-20's. They still lack a lot of experience as they are cuter, younger. Kgirls tend to be older, so they know what to do and have a better routine / attitude. The older the girl, the more of a service queen you'll get. I'd say 80% of jgirls require BYOS, bring your own service. One member PM'ed me and said how awful Minami was. I had an opposite experience, but I can see it as she's not naturally talkative or energetic upon meeting her. Also jgirls tend to have worse english skills than kgirls, so they're a bit more shy. There is definitely an effort factor required with HYA jgirls.

    I saw Jewelry (30's, tanned skin, SEA look) and it quite refreshing to get attacked by a service queen. The attitude and service was night and day different with jgirls. That being said, I'd take a HYA jgirl any day over veteran kgirl. Up next for me this weekend is Kazumi J. I can't get enough of jgirls.
    Yes, each guy has to know what they want. If they want service, most of their options are going to be older and not touring jgirl. Touring jgirl meaning "from Japan", as opposed to the local jgirls who are more often mixed half-Japanese / half-Korean and speak good English. If someone wants looks, they are not going to want to touch most service queens.

    For that reason, it helps everyone to identify which girls have looks and which girls have service. Minami's strong point is her face and ass. Kazumi's strong point is her MM tits and cute body. Both are spinners. If you aren't a spinner lover or jgirl lover, half the appeal is instantly gone. Minami is submissive, it's spelled out in all my reviews of her:
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7442705 Minami PLEASER

    Whereas Kazumi (now in OC) will attack you for a bit, she has some skills but it is still HYA level. Minami is currently in SD and will be there about a week. For jgirl hunters, the three in Socal I'd see are Yaya (LA), Minami J (SD), then Kazumi J (OC) in that order. All three girls are petite. If you don't like jgirls or spinners, don't bother!

    As for high service jgirls, they are not common but a few passed through LA at corgs. The highest service HYA jgirl who passed through OC was CAKD Yua last year. There was also FA Maki who was very high service, but she was borderline MILF. Top tier skills.

    The very best girl in OC you'll need to bring some service for. People are repeating her nonstop. I focus on reviewing them in the HYA thread or the Roster thread so that a service hunter doesn't accidentally see them. One problem OC has is we don't have enough service reviewers. They are going to be disappointed seeing these three types of girls: HYA, jgirls, young new girls.

    There are other top tier HYA where you'll have to bring all the service. So if you want service, don't even bother. Since some people prioritize those girls while others hate them, that's why reviews are so important. That is the basics of matchmaking.

  15. #5908
    Quote Originally Posted by PePe44  [View Original Post]
    J girls getting too much hype. Has anyone had a seriously killer session other than "you have to lead the session" or "she was drop dead cute kind of session"? Tried J girl this week and should have booked a time humping my pillow as it probably would have given me better reactions than who I saw. Dirty room, dead fish, bored looks that what most of the J girl sessions have been in my luck.
    Here's my opinion as a HYA jgirl hunter. Most jgirls are on the younger side, I'd say mid-20's. They still lack a lot of experience as they are cuter, younger. Kgirls tend to be older, so they know what to do and have a better routine / attitude. The older the girl, the more of a service queen you'll get. I'd say 80% of jgirls require BYOS, bring your own service. One member PM'ed me and said how awful Minami was. I had an opposite experience, but I can see it as she's not naturally talkative or energetic upon meeting her. Also jgirls tend to have worse english skills than kgirls, so they're a bit more shy. There is definitely an effort factor required with HYA jgirls.

    I saw Jewelry (30's, tanned skin, SEA look) and it quite refreshing to get attacked by a service queen. The attitude and service was night and day different with jgirls. That being said, I'd take a HYA jgirl any day over veteran kgirl. Up next for me this weekend is Kazumi J. I can't get enough of jgirls.

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