Strip Club Reports

[CakeComa]

Hit up the SC last night. It was poppin off in there. Nearly 30 girls. The busiest I've seen it on a Thursday. Last time I was there on a Thursday it was 90% Cubans. Last night it was 90% AA with only a couple Cubans and 2-3 white girls. I was in chocolate heaven. There were quite a few options over 7's if you ask me. But that's a subjective statement obv. Bunch of spinner options. It was sensory overload for me. Took a 7 and a 9 in the back and left completely drained. My last couple visits here at night have been wonderful. SC on the up and up. DM for more specifics. 🍻.

[MichiganMan686]

Like I mentioned in my previous posts, I'm relatively new to this hobby. I've made plenty of mistakes, and unfortunately, some were pretty expensive lessons.

First off, thanks to everyone who sent great advice via PM. I plan to compile all the tips into a guide later so other newbies can avoid my pitfalls.

Here is my current struggle: I've been dropping $300$350 at BT and LS venues. I know that's high, but what's worse is the service. The sessions feel incredibly rushed, usually over in 2-3 songs. It feels like the provider is on a mission to jack hammer me and finish me off as fast as possible. It's zero fun.

The biggest lesson I've learned the hard way: NEVER pay in advance. Here is a breakdown of some of my "tuition fees" (mistakes):

BT. Anna: Paid $300. She looked smoking hot, but the session was a total speed-run. Zero connection, rushed out the door under 7 minutes I think.

LS. Rosie: (Note: Not the Rosie at BO, who is amazing). I paid $400 because I was being stupid / naive. Didn't even receive the FS we agreed upon.

FS. Ibana: Rushed the entire time and tried to upsell me after I had already paid, demanding more cash for different positions.

My Question to the Vets: I assume I'm the common denominator here. Am I doing something wrong to attract this kind of inferior service? There's no way these girls get return customers if they treat everyone like this, right?

Any advice on how to screen better or handle the negotiation so I don't get taken for a ride? I feel I'm paying more for way less and rewarding bad behaviors.

I've been posting this same thing over and over. I will even say this happens to me over and over to a new girl. She will say Ill never do that. As soon as you get back there they fuckn do the same thing. In my opinion ya need to find a good one with good reviews get her number and only see her. I'm so sick of getting hustled. Just my 2 cents but I'm more of a massage escort guy.

[Woodenshoe]

A fine ass slender white girl named Pixie dances at Bogies usually weekdays Wed-Fri

She's a ton of fun out front, sassy, sexy, good sense of humor. Haven't taken her back yet as I usually go with Athena.

[WraithSlayer03]

You made the drive for a repeat performance, I take it?

I wish. I have very busy work days this week. I plan on seeing her at Criket Sunday evening depending on how I feel.

[Incognito1234]

I think she's only going to be at H8 for the events. She prefers Cricket.

You made the drive for a repeat performance, I take it?

[WraithSlayer03]

Did anyone make it to the Christmas party at Henry's last night? If so, how was it? I really wanted to go, but I'd been up way too many hours from the day before and was completely wiped out.

From her IG posts, I see that Bunny the dancer formerly known as Dream was there. Apparently, she's working back and forth between Henry's and the Criket again?

I think she's only going to be at H8 for the events. She prefers Cricket.

[Incognito1234]

Did anyone make it to the Christmas party at Henry's last night? If so, how was it? I really wanted to go, but I'd been up way too many hours from the day before and was completely wiped out.

From her IG posts, I see that Bunny — the dancer formerly known as Dream — was there. Apparently, she's working back and forth between Henry's and the Criket again?

[Lurker1988]

Like I mentioned in my previous posts, I'm relatively new to this hobby. I've made plenty of mistakes, and unfortunately, some were pretty expensive lessons.

First off, thanks to everyone who sent great advice via PM. I plan to compile all the tips into a guide later so other newbies can avoid my pitfalls.

Here is my current struggle: I've been dropping $300$350 at BT and LS venues. I know that's high, but what's worse is the service. The sessions feel incredibly rushed, usually over in 2-3 songs. It feels like the provider is on a mission to jack hammer me and finish me off as fast as possible. It's zero fun.

The biggest lesson I've learned the hard way: NEVER pay in advance. Here is a breakdown of some of my "tuition fees" (mistakes):

BT. Anna: Paid $300. She looked smoking hot, but the session was a total speed-run. Zero connection, rushed out the door under 7 minutes I think.

LS. Rosie: (Note: Not the Rosie at BO, who is amazing). I paid $400 because I was being stupid / naive. Didn't even receive the FS we agreed upon.

FS. Ibana: Rushed the entire time and tried to upsell me after I had already paid, demanding more cash for different positions.

My Question to the Vets: I assume I'm the common denominator here. Am I doing something wrong to attract this kind of inferior service? There's no way these girls get return customers if they treat everyone like this, right?

Any advice on how to screen better or handle the negotiation so I don't get taken for a ride? I feel I'm paying more for way less and rewarding bad behaviors.

Rosie? What is BO? I know a Rosie ar LS charges 250, is she Polish and on the skinny side?

Ty, PM is fine.

[Forty Four]

Additional update to my previous post (the 1 hour edit window expired).

Keep in mind that everyone is different. What works GREAT for one guy might be the worst approach for another. YOU need to find your own "sweet spot" in dealing with these girls, because they'll see right through you if you're being a "phoney". That said, there's nothing wrong with changing / improving who you are.

Again, it takes more experience, . . ahem. . . Getting laid. . . To determine that sweet spot. . . and adjusting as appropriate.

But hey, there are worse things LOL.

[Forty Four]

Like I mentioned in my previous posts, I'm relatively new to this hobby. I've made plenty of mistakes, and unfortunately, some were pretty expensive lessons.

First off, thanks to everyone who sent great advice via PM. I plan to compile all the tips into a guide later so other newbies can avoid my pitfalls.

Here is my current struggle: I've been dropping $300$350 at BT and LS venues. I know that's high, but what's worse is the service. The sessions feel incredibly rushed, usually over in 2-3 songs. It feels like the provider is on a mission to jack hammer me and finish me off as fast as possible. It's zero fun.

The biggest lesson I've learned the hard way: NEVER pay in advance. Here is a breakdown of some of my "tuition fees" (mistakes):

BT. Anna: Paid $300. She looked smoking hot, but the session was a total speed-run. Zero connection, rushed out the door under 7 minutes I think.

LS. Rosie: (Note: Not the Rosie at BO, who is amazing). I paid $400 because I was being stupid / naive. Didn't even receive the FS we agreed upon.

FS. Ibana: Rushed the entire time and tried to upsell me after I had already paid, demanding more cash for different positions.

My Question to the Vets: I assume I'm the common denominator here. Am I doing something wrong to attract this kind of inferior service? There's no way these girls get return customers if they treat everyone like this, right?

Any advice on how to screen better or handle the negotiation so I don't get taken for a ride? I feel I'm paying more for way less and rewarding bad behaviors.

You've received a lot of valuable tutoring here from wise and experienced professors. You're smart enough realize that it's in your best interest to increase your knowledge, rather than arrogantly "flying blind". I'll add a link to a post I made a few weeks ago about women in general, and strippers in particular (well all sex workers), having the telepathic ability to read guys.

https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...01#post7443801

I think that this fact is under appreciated (especially for Newbies, who may be TOO friendly, nice, agreeable). Most guys can't avoid it (myself included). Our best defense is to know it exists, accept it, and be prepared to counter it with our own "male wisdom". Unfortunately, it takes experience to gain that wisdom, there's no master-level tutoring for it. Each success and failure adds to that wisdom whether you realize it or not.

So the moral of the story is, "Keep trying to get laid. It builds wisdom" LOL.

[Marelobo Mex]

Like I mentioned in my previous posts, I'm relatively new to this hobby. I've made plenty of mistakes, and unfortunately, some were pretty expensive lessons.

First off, thanks to everyone who sent great advice via PM. I plan to compile all the tips into a guide later so other newbies can avoid my pitfalls.

Here is my current struggle: I've been dropping $300$350 at BT and LS venues. I know that's high, but what's worse is the service. The sessions feel incredibly rushed, usually over in 2-3 songs. It feels like the provider is on a mission to jack hammer me and finish me off as fast as possible. It's zero fun.

The biggest lesson I've learned the hard way: NEVER pay in advance. Here is a breakdown of some of my "tuition fees" (mistakes):

BT. Anna: Paid $300. She looked smoking hot, but the session was a total speed-run. Zero connection, rushed out the door under 7 minutes I think.

LS. Rosie: (Note: Not the Rosie at BO, who is amazing). I paid $400 because I was being stupid / naive. Didn't even receive the FS we agreed upon.

FS. Ibana: Rushed the entire time and tried to upsell me after I had already paid, demanding more cash for different positions.

My Question to the Vets: I assume I'm the common denominator here. Am I doing something wrong to attract this kind of inferior service? There's no way these girls get return customers if they treat everyone like this, right?

Any advice on how to screen better or handle the negotiation so I don't get taken for a ride? I feel I'm paying more for way less and rewarding bad behaviors.

Aa,

Don't beat yourself up, every guy on this board has made plenty of mistake no different than you.

I go to BTs often and it is possible to do better than $300 but you are not really getting taken advantage of on price. I have paid those same rates. You can't compare with the H8 and bogarts pricing.

Try building more chemistry. Talk to the girls and get to like her and convince her she likes you. Or at least she likes you better than the other guys who come into the club. Ask her a question and remember the answer like what is her favorite color. Many guys don't pay attention to women when they talk. Most women find it sexy if a guy remembers what she tells him.

When you negotiate, include things like this in your negotiation.

I want to go to the VIP with a passionate sensual girl.

I don't want to rush, for the session to be a success for me, I need let my arousal build so I can successfully finish. I am counting on you to seduce me.

I plan to come back in 2 days, and I am really looking for a girl to be my regular, who I can enjoy seeing more than once.

Finally, as a newbie, although I also do this as on oldbie. If I haven't been in for a while and there are many new girls, I watch an entire rotation tipping the girls I find attractive. I choose a table where I can observe the VIP and I note the girls who go into the VIP. If a girl goes multiple times she is likely either a good performer or a new girl.

The best girls have already built a stable of regulars so that girl might have a few guys she knows are coming in to see her that night. So the best girls don't run over to some newbie they don't know who might be a negative experience. You will have to chase her to get her attention. She will always take additional money, but she is not desperate for it.

The best girls usually go to the VIP early in the night and have made their money so they are not desperate in the last hour of the night.

If a girl hasn't gone all night she is usually looking for whales to spend $500 on her, or she is known bad time by the regulars and she ends up compromising and doing a bad session in the final hour to cover her tip out.

Keep trying it only takes chemistry with one good girl. When you find a good one, tell her you have had bad experiences with other girl and was thinking of giving up on the club and ask her if she can introduce you to other girls who won't cheat you that want to offer services for the same price you pay her.

MM.

[Marelobo Mex]

I was thinking about asking the same thing. Maybe he meant just fucking without pay.

Times are tough though, so I could see a bold suggestion (paired with reasonably attractiveness (or maybe a disarming sort of attitude) on the guy's part) working maybe 10% of the time.

However, in the other 90% you might get sneered at, booted from the restaurant, or in some cases the police called to trespass you or if they think it's some human trafficking ploy. I personally don't think I'd have the confidence to ask a random non-SWer that question. Hell, I'd probably feel awkward asking them out for a date given the fact they're actively working and are expected to be polite or even a little flirty with single male customers.

On the strip club topic, Sunny is great, I had her once and would again if I had more time and cash to visit.

You guys misunderstand me. I am not getting young girls or working girls and I don't proposition them.

If you hang out at the bar there will often times be ladies there. They are typically the female version of me. In there 40 and 50's, carrying a few a extra pounds and a lot of life experiences. I am decent looking guy, I am good with conversation, and if you are polite with them for many of those ladies it has been years since a guy shows interest in them. If you ask a couple questions, listen and respond thoughtfully. Most females love to talk about themselves. Most females that age haven't been flirted with in a long time and are usually eager to jump into bed. My experience has been most of the time they invite me to their place or ask to come back to mine. There is only one reason they do this, and it is to have sex. On my scale you looking at mostly 4's and 5's with an occasional 6. But then you aren't paying her cash.

I frequently have performance problems with these girls especially after a couple drinks that I never seem to have with 20 year old girls.

If you are on a budget and looking for girls your own age, give it a try, it is reasonably easy for me.

MM.

[JackOfClubs]

@ Arianabp

You were not taken at BT's or LS, as that is the standard stripper rates at those two clubs and 80% of the dancers will not budge from that price, they have formed a loosely run union so to say, also even at those high rates you will likely not get anywhere near a porn star / girlfriend experience at either of those two clubs from the high dollar girls.

The secret is to find the 20% who have enough wisdom to realize that $150-200 is good money for 10-12 minutes of gratifying VIP time and the way to find these girls is to just spend time with them, and listen to them, if they want a drink say sure as long as it is $12 normal drink, the scammers want to order premium drinks, with experience one can learn an awful lot about how a VIP session will be just by listening to a dancer talk about herself and reveal her life and needs, I never take one back who is pushy or brags about how great she is, always ask a stripper about their do's and don'ts up front , unless you are rich and money is no objection and even if you are i suggest to never go for the hottest young ones at LS or BT's as they all have GPS and they are mechanical

I myself and every guy has their own "type" and that is what makes the club scene so great, the strippers come in all shapes and sizes and I am sometimes dumbfounded but also very thankful that not every guy in the place is interested in the same ones I am attracted to.

[Incognito1234]

Like I mentioned in my previous posts, I'm relatively new to this hobby. I've made plenty of mistakes, and unfortunately, some were pretty expensive lessons.

First off, thanks to everyone who sent great advice via PM. I plan to compile all the tips into a guide later so other newbies can avoid my pitfalls.

Here is my current struggle: I've been dropping $300$350 at BT and LS venues. I know that's high, but what's worse is the service. The sessions feel incredibly rushed, usually over in 2-3 songs. It feels like the provider is on a mission to jack hammer me and finish me off as fast as possible. It's zero fun.

The biggest lesson I've learned the hard way: NEVER pay in advance. Here is a breakdown of some of my "tuition fees" (mistakes):

BT. Anna: Paid $300. She looked smoking hot, but the session was a total speed-run. Zero connection, rushed out the door under 7 minutes I think.

LS. Rosie: (Note: Not the Rosie at BO, who is amazing). I paid $400 because I was being stupid / naive. Didn't even receive the FS we agreed upon.

FS. Ibana: Rushed the entire time and tried to upsell me after I had already paid, demanding more cash for different positions.

My Question to the Vets: I assume I'm the common denominator here. Am I doing something wrong to attract this kind of inferior service? There's no way these girls get return customers if they treat everyone like this, right?

Any advice on how to screen better or handle the negotiation so I don't get taken for a ride? I feel I'm paying more for way less and rewarding bad behaviors.

Paying your tuition can be very expensive, as you've found out.

Yes, you're absolutely right never pay up front. In my experience, when you pay ahead of time, the service usually isn't as good, and situations like the ones you described are far more likely to happen.

While I don't go to BTs or LS, I can say with confidence that you were definitely taken advantage of. Dancers can quote any price they want, and if you don't know the going rates, feel uncomfortable making a reasonable counteroffer, or simply agree to whatever they say, you're putting yourself in a bad position. You have to be willing to walk away. At the very least, most dancers will circle back later with a better offer. If not, there are plenty of others who will happily make a fair deal and take your money. And if none of the dancers in the club are willing to negotiate within the range you're prepared to spend, leave. Go somewhere else. There are plenty of clubs around here where you can get what you want without being overcharged or treated poorly.

I'm honestly shocked that a dancer tried to upsell you for different positions. In more than 20 years going to the clubs, I've NEVER heard of anything like that before. You're right to call out those dancers for their tactics and bad service. This is exactly why having knowledge from the board before going into these situations is so important. If you'd known what they were like ahead of time, would you have gone back with them? They took advantage of you and got top dollar out of you. How likely are you to go back with them now? Even at half the price, knowing what you know about their service, would you really take that chance again and risk the same disappointing experience?

[CommonSteve666]

Like I mentioned in my previous posts, I'm relatively new to this hobby. I've made plenty of mistakes, and unfortunately, some were pretty expensive lessons.

First off, thanks to everyone who sent great advice via PM. I plan to compile all the tips into a guide later so other newbies can avoid my pitfalls.

Here is my current struggle: I've been dropping $300$350 at BT and LS venues. I know that's high, but what's worse is the service. The sessions feel incredibly rushed, usually over in 2-3 songs. It feels like the provider is on a mission to jack hammer me and finish me off as fast as possible. It's zero fun.

The biggest lesson I've learned the hard way: NEVER pay in advance. Here is a breakdown of some of my "tuition fees" (mistakes):

BT. Anna: Paid $300. She looked smoking hot, but the session was a total speed-run. Zero connection, rushed out the door under 7 minutes I think.

LS. Rosie: (Note: Not the Rosie at BO, who is amazing). I paid $400 because I was being stupid / naive. Didn't even receive the FS we agreed upon.

FS. Ibana: Rushed the entire time and tried to upsell me after I had already paid, demanding more cash for different positions.

My Question to the Vets: I assume I'm the common denominator here. Am I doing something wrong to attract this kind of inferior service? There's no way these girls get return customers if they treat everyone like this, right?

Any advice on how to screen better or handle the negotiation so I don't get taken for a ride? I feel I'm paying more for way less and rewarding bad behaviors.

As you have likely read, once she is paid all motivation goes away. Tell them you pay after, do this up front. If she says ok and then demands payment in VIP get up and walk out. Most are not smart enough to develop repeat business so one and done is what they do. You can show her the money but it gets put away until she does her part.