Thai org and Thai agency girls

[KingsFoil]

Currently in OC Khaleesi is posting pictures of Nina who was recently up in Pasadena. Normally, the Thai orgs are great at posting real pictures. But lately, I am skeptical because these look too good to be true. Did anyone happen to see Nina when she was up here?

[JackHolly]

Over in the Las Vegas / OC / LA forums for Korean agency BBFS, there is a poster who always says he gets selfies of the girls after seeing them and posts them here. I've talked to a couple of providers who said that the photo the guy uses are the photos they gave to the booker and / or owner. I don't like the shilling aspect of that, but if it's a real selfie (the selfies always have the phone obscuring the face in a mirror), then at least the more accurate representation of their body is appreciated.

I've noticed this trend too, and I completely agree with you. Selfies or the mirror shots are the best photos providers can use. I assume we all want to get what we see. Glam photos raise too many questions about authenticity. Pinky's old photos were amazing, her new ones (that's still her) don't make her look as good, but she was still cute with a slight tummy (service was good but not great, no DFK). Regardless, the new photo trend makes me pause whereas before I wouldn't hesitate.

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Part 2. I will attach ad photos from SweetCandies two years ago. Be warned these are all HYA ads for actual HYA, I would not expect them often. But they represent the kind of ads my ATFs were using at SweetCandies. There was a brand new girl, SC Chichi. They posted placeholder ads showing a HYA - see the first 3 images for Chichi's original ads. The remarkable thing was when they had HYA ads, it was a HYA. Or rather, when it was a MILF they made sure to use MILF ads. I'm okay with the girl not looking the same as the ad as long as it is in the ballpark so to speak, and I had used SC enough to know that they sometimes hosted HYA. So I was hopeful after my SC Emily experiences, and each time I dove in on an HYA ad it was an actual HYA. It was quite a surprise, and maybe too good to be last. But, Thai orgs have a much better average than korgs on ads so there is that.

Once Chichi started, they added new ads more and more, and they were recognizably her with low filter. Some of her outdoors, some smartphone photos taken of her in the apartment. You could instantly recognize it was the apartment and that it was taken very recently, and having already seen Chichi I could see it was an unfiltered shot. If there was some filter or PS, I couldn't tell, so the important point is they were accurate. 4th photo is 1 cropped example. There were many others.

5th and 6th photos are 2 later ads they used when Chichi toured again. I think there is light PS making her look slimmer and smoothing out the face. It is very light. She had a great figure imo and didn't need it, so it took a long examination to identify the PS. Not bad, she actually looked about the same level as her ads just slightly different. In the 6th picture attached, she has full make up on. I repeated her many times and did see her look pretty much like that, but usually she didn't. It's another factor in ad photos and the same point I made about Jenny K.

I saw Chichi and Jenny K match their ad photos even down to the make up look, but most visits they did not have that make up. That is the big caveat even when the ad matches - it won't stay that way. It is simply too hard to maintain full make up and do appointments, the make up wears off and causes problems. But glamour shots will show it. It's a case where the ad is not representative, but not wrong either (it is not some filter). It's why in-apartment selfies are superior, because usually it's taken when she is "ready" and more representative. They are also way more recent. When I saw HX independents, girls would post hundreds of selfies, and they varied over time. The more recent photos were sometimes as close as you can get with natural day-by-day variation only. I used to write HX guides and this was one way to pick your girl.

Last two photos are SC Emily from 2 years ago. I repeated her many times over a long time and her weight did go up and down. Sometimes she was very skinny. I feel like there could be PS in the selfie but it is not far off if there is. Meaning the important point is it's representative. Note the big hands, that's not filtering but what happens when you stand close to a mirror and take a selfie (if you try it yourself, your hand easily gets bigger than your head). Those were her nails, her jewelry, her outfit, her hairstyle, the apartment. Chefs kiss. The last photo is another one, it has light PS but was representative. She had an unreal exotic look to her face, it is a one of a kind face. She was mixed Thai and Chinese. So to the extent there is PS, it's as close as you can hope for and the ad captures her well.

I think I got very lucky with these and other girls I saw at SweetCandies. I reported when ads were accurate and so did others, and I never got a dud. I consider that a combo of intel and luck, it is just a matter of time when my luck changes. I did see plenty of placeholder ads and ads with more PS, but it wasn't korg level. MILFs got MILF ads, which was what mattered to me. Many Thai women are thick and full bodied. It's not my thing, but glad that ads usually showed that too. Especially backside shots with no face, people generally reported them as accurate with low or no filter.

I would not expect true HYA at thai orgs often. S99 Lyla was borderline HYA in October in SD, she was a solid girl but like with korgs it's maybe 10% to 20% HYA depending on your standard. She was short tour so never rotated to LA.

There are some girls who use completely fake ads. If the girl is the same level as the ad then I call it a placeholder ad, I assume for privacy. Keep an eye out for new updated ads that are selfies or in-apartment, they tend to be decent. But lately, people are pointing out there are ads looking too much better than the girl, so the only solution is intel.

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I've noticed this trend too, and I completely agree with you. Selfies or the mirror shots are the best photos providers can use. I assume we all want to get what we see. Glam photos raise too many questions about authenticity. Pinky's old photos were amazing, her new ones (that's still her) don't make her look as good, but she was still cute with a slight tummy (service was good but not great, no DFK). Regardless, the new photo trend makes me pause whereas before I wouldn't hesitate.

Yes, it's true. If you follow the agency ad photos, you'll see they cycle through various photos for some veteran girls. SC Maya for example has about 20 different photos. Usually, ass photos without face and in-apartment selfies tend to be the most accurate. No face photos are sometimes unfiltered (as far as I can tell). Even korgs occasionally do that, though it is rare.

When a girl has weird face PS, it does make her look worse. It's for privacy. More often, it is the usual PS to improve her age / looks.

FA Sammy for example has no face photos that are exactly her - but face photos are heavily PS'd. Her body actually looks better than her no face photos, you can't see how well toned and good her complexion is from a zoomed out full shot photo.

Some girls like KDC Jenny K vary their looks both over time and even day to day as far as make up. So my first visit to Jenny K, she looked 95% like her ad photo including the exact outfit in her ad and same make up style. It was extremely close. But my second visit, she had different make up. Her weight went up and down, not by a lot, but enough to not match the ad closely. So even with a realistic and accurate ad, it drifts over time and even day by day. I have seen some girls occasionally with no make up, obviously it makes a difference. So even an unfiltered ad cannot exactly match a girl consistently, but what we hope for is it gives an accurate idea of the girl to help you pick the right girl.

SC Maya and Guitar are examples of girls with realistic ads. It gives you the right idea even when there is some PS. So it gives a starting point for people to talk about the girl, especially if she has changed since the photos were taken. USAG has a photo attachment limit, so I will first include Maya's ad photos current and past.

[Skizzard]

Admittedly, I still haven't seen any of these Thai girls because I just can't find the time for the commute. However, I have noticed that the pics have been going down hill. What I mean by that is that they are slowly but surely moving from authentic, representative pics, to glammed up, touched up, or even flat out fake pics. Look at Pinky's new pics, for example. She was one of the girls I was most interested in meeting (and I still am). However, her new pics look so touched up it's hard to tell if it's even her. Anna's pics (Khaleesi) look flat out fake and that is what I will assume until confirmed otherwise.

I wish there was some way to make these agencies understand that having real and accurate pics is a major asset, and on top of the better pricing, it puts them at a huge advantage over the K agencies. I, for one, have completely abandoned the K agencies, first and foremost because the fake pics and rebranding make every session a crapshoot. When you add the crazy prices on top of that, it is just not worth the risk. The Thai agencies should stay where they started and build our trust through real and accurate pics. I hope they read this.

I've noticed this trend too, and I completely agree with you. Selfies or the mirror shots are the best photos providers can use. I assume we all want to get what we see. Glam photos raise too many questions about authenticity. Pinky's old photos were amazing, her new ones (that's still her) don't make her look as good, but she was still cute with a slight tummy (service was good but not great, no DFK). Regardless, the new photo trend makes me pause whereas before I wouldn't hesitate.

[FiatVoluptas]

Admittedly, I still haven't seen any of these Thai girls because I just can't find the time for the commute. However, I have noticed that the pics have been going down hill. What I mean by that is that they are slowly but surely moving from authentic, representative pics, to glammed up, touched up, or even flat out fake pics. Look at Pinky's new pics, for example. She was one of the girls I was most interested in meeting (and I still am). However, her new pics look so touched up it's hard to tell if it's even her. Anna's pics (Khaleesi) look flat out fake and that is what I will assume until confirmed otherwise.

I wish there was some way to make these agencies understand that having real and accurate pics is a major asset, and on top of the better pricing, it puts them at a huge advantage over the K agencies. I, for one, have completely abandoned the K agencies, first and foremost because the fake pics and rebranding make every session a crapshoot. When you add the crazy prices on top of that, it is just not worth the risk. The Thai agencies should stay where they started and build our trust through real and accurate pics. I hope they read this.

[Skizzard]

That's a pity, she was fun. Would like to know where she is as well.

I have no idea. She hasn't popped up anywhere as of yet.

[MyFinalHeav3]

Forgot to add, she's left Pasadena already.

That's a pity, she was fun. Would like to know where she is as well.

[TJ2617]

Forgot to add, she's left Pasadena already.

No, I wanted to see her. Where is she now?

[Skizzard]

Are the face pics accurate, representative?

Forgot to add, she's left Pasadena already.

[Skizzard]

Are the face pics accurate, representative?

Mmmm, kind of? The photos online look filtered and her face looked filtered in person too, she wasn't ugly but she had the silicone lips and tons of make up, she looks ready for a photo shoot so DFK or LFK were off the table. Probably takes her a while to get all that ready, but her body was great.

[TnaStylez]

I can save you all the trouble. I saw Daisy (new face pics on HX). She's got a tight petite body with big fake tits. Some kind of surgical tape on the underboob, so she might've just gotten them done. Face is ok with big balloon lips, her face looks photoshopped in real life, it was weird haha. But I guess you could say she was attractive in that way. Service was mediocre, but will say she's got a nice little ass on her and she was thin but she struggles with size. I was looking for her body type after having my fill of seeing soft bodies for a while so she fit the bill. She got the job done but I won't be repeating.

Are the face pics accurate, representative?

[DasBunka]

To add to this, other Thai girls I've seen charged 200 hh / 240 for 45 / 300 hr. There might be girls that charge more, but that's what I've most often paid. What is amazing is this is the same rate as 2 years ago. It is a budget friendly option for GFE only guys, and the 45 min option is great for me since I sometimes need just a little more than hh.

HH vs HR, Pricing
This is kind of the reverse corg situation where korg hh rates don't make sense. Whereas corg hr rates are too high. Each type of org has a different pricing structure and expectations. So I've adapted my approach differently for each org.

At thai orgs, I aim for 45 mins. Korgs I tend to do hr since it barely costs more (I get massage and just vibe with the girl). Most girls don't expect you to play the whole hour and that's fine with me, we chill during break and then go at it for round 2. At Corgs, I decide hh or hr on the spot in front of the girl based on her vibe and attitude. If I do hr at a corg, it is for 2 rounds with a break, and since I'm a 1 shot guy I just take a break rather than nut first round (otherwise it's hard to do round 2). Girls are more likely to let you go the hour at corgs since they know you are actually paying for it. That's the upside to corg pricing and my actual experience as well as that of others I compared notes with.

I guess you could say that if people vote with their wallets and say that 200 hh is what they like, more Thai orgs will move to LA and gain market share. Competition is exactly why OC and SD still have 220-240 hh kgirls. A few of them are ATFs for me. FirstAsians in OC is where you find them, but they have a small roster so if you have an ATF there you just wait patiently for them.
https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/firstasians FirstAsians, budget korg

FA is one of the only korgs that prices hh right, so that budget guys have options. I can get a cheap quickie during my lunch break if I'm feeling it. I think one reason why FA is so cheap is they are single booker and strict screening compared to korgs. Most of their customers are long-time regulars, which keeps costs and problems down.

Yes the price is right and hope it stays that way! One thing I like about the $200 hhr is that it gives me the option to see 2 girls back to back on the same visit for a good price. I've done that with this Thai org a few times and it's been basically a full hour of fun with 2 pops and a quick shower in between. I've found that many times I can't pop twice in 1 hr in my kgirl visits. For me the variety definitely plays a role.

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2 for the 30.

To add to this, other Thai girls I've seen charged 200 hh / 240 for 45 / 300 hr. There might be girls that charge more, but that's what I've most often paid. What is amazing is this is the same rate as 2 years ago. It is a budget friendly option for GFE only guys, and the 45 min option is great for me since I sometimes need just a little more than hh.

HH vs HR, Pricing
This is kind of the reverse corg situation where korg hh rates don't make sense. Whereas corg hr rates are too high. Each type of org has a different pricing structure and expectations. So I've adapted my approach differently for each org.

At thai orgs, I aim for 45 mins. Korgs I tend to do hr since it barely costs more (I get massage and just vibe with the girl). Most girls don't expect you to play the whole hour and that's fine with me, we chill during break and then go at it for round 2. At Corgs, I decide hh or hr on the spot in front of the girl based on her vibe and attitude. If I do hr at a corg, it is for 2 rounds with a break, and since I'm a 1 shot guy I just take a break rather than nut first round (otherwise it's hard to do round 2). Girls are more likely to let you go the hour at corgs since they know you are actually paying for it. That's the upside to corg pricing and my actual experience as well as that of others I compared notes with.

I guess you could say that if people vote with their wallets and say that 200 hh is what they like, more Thai orgs will move to LA and gain market share. Competition is exactly why OC and SD still have 220-240 hh kgirls. A few of them are ATFs for me. FirstAsians in OC is where you find them, but they have a small roster so if you have an ATF there you just wait patiently for them.
https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/firstasians FirstAsians, budget korg

FA is one of the only korgs that prices hh right, so that budget guys have options. I can get a cheap quickie during my lunch break if I'm feeling it. I think one reason why FA is so cheap is they are single booker and strict screening compared to korgs. Most of their customers are long-time regulars, which keeps costs and problems down.

[Skizzard]

Thanks for the review! What was the rate?

2 for the 30.