Rants, Raves, and Stupid Tinfoil Hat Wearing Conspiracy Bullshit

[MmceStep]

You're free to think that, but they're different people. Even when they were with BKS, they were advertised as different people by the agency. Why would the agency go through that trouble if it was just one person?

Even now, they have different TER profiles, different tryst profiles, different email addresses, phone numbers, and one has a P411, while the other does not.

If you look at their tryst activity too, both are active frequently. One was active today, the other yesterday.

It makes 0 sense for one person to maintain two completely separate profiles, with separate physical descriptions BTW. Marcelle lists herself as 5' with green eyes, while Michelle Lavigne lists herself as 5'1" with brown eyes.

If you can explain logically all of these discrepancies, sure, I'll concede it's one person. But it's not. The fact that the agency they both were with together listed them as separate providers is the biggest evidence that they're separate.

I'm not interested in this becoming an argument, so believe what you want.

The Asian agencies do the same thing. You'll frequently see a 'new girl' advertised and it turns out to be one of the ones that's come into town before. They do this for several reasons, first they understand that girls with too many reviews (even if they're all good ones) tend to be regarded as high volume (and thus have less value), additionally, they'll sometimes quote different price levels (to see if they can get more). They'll test out the effectiveness of certain photos or phrases on one ad or the other (A / B Split Testing), and they'll also have a backup identity should one of their stage names catches a bad review (which can be devastating for a high end provider's business). If their reputation falls apart under one name, they can go all in on the other. I believe the smarter girls are doing this, vs what the other ones do, throwing away an old name and contact info when they catch bad reviews and then completely start over with a new name. We certainly know some providers mentioned here that have had 6-7 different profile names over the course of years. Having a developed backup lets them avoid skipping a beat in their earnings.

[SloanSter]

Deff same. Saw within two weeks. She advertises like that as her adds speak to two different clientele. She doesn't limit herself by one.

You're free to think that, but they're different people. Even when they were with BKS, they were advertised as different people by the agency. Why would the agency go through that trouble if it was just one person?

Even now, they have different TER profiles, different tryst profiles, different email addresses, phone numbers, and one has a P411, while the other does not.

If you look at their tryst activity too, both are active frequently. One was active today, the other yesterday.

It makes 0 sense for one person to maintain two completely separate profiles, with separate physical descriptions BTW. Marcelle lists herself as 5' with green eyes, while Michelle Lavigne lists herself as 5'1" with brown eyes..

[SecretCrush]

I have seen "both" of them and they are the same girl. No idea why she does it that way, but it must be working for her. You can actually see a fairly unique bracelet in both profiles that is hers. I've attached the pictures from the different ads and you can see for yourself.

You're free to think that, but they're different people. Even when they were with BKS, they were advertised as different people by the agency. Why would the agency go through that trouble if it was just one person?

Even now, they have different TER profiles, different tryst profiles, different email addresses, phone numbers, and one has a P411, while the other does not.

If you look at their tryst activity too, both are active frequently. One was active today, the other yesterday.

It makes 0 sense for one person to maintain two completely separate profiles, with separate physical descriptions BTW. Marcelle lists herself as 5' with green eyes, while Michelle Lavigne lists herself as 5'1" with brown eyes.

If you can explain logically all of these discrepancies, sure, I'll concede it's one person. But it's not. The fact that the agency they both were with together listed them as separate providers is the biggest evidence that they're separate.

I'm not interested in this becoming an argument, so believe what you want.

[Tawayem]

No that is incorrect. Both ads are the same person. And she is fantastic. Best pair of ()() I've ever laid my hands on.

You're free to think that, but they're different people. Even when they were with BKS, they were advertised as different people by the agency. Why would the agency go through that trouble if it was just one person?

Even now, they have different TER profiles, different tryst profiles, different email addresses, phone numbers, and one has a P411, while the other does not.

If you look at their tryst activity too, both are active frequently. One was active today, the other yesterday.

It makes 0 sense for one person to maintain two completely separate profiles, with separate physical descriptions BTW. Marcelle lists herself as 5' with green eyes, while Michelle Lavigne lists herself as 5'1" with brown eyes.

If you can explain logically all of these discrepancies, sure, I'll concede it's one person. But it's not. The fact that the agency they both were with together listed them as separate providers is the biggest evidence that they're separate.

I'm not interested in this becoming an argument, so believe what you want.

[Hullaballo]

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2. Nerdie Birdy. Always a great time, she's seems semi-pro now, great conversation, awesome massages, incredible FS she has so much energy but she is pricey with a full menu.

What were her rates? Anything bare? GFE / PSE?

[Busylittlebee]

I like this thread so I will post my reflections here.

During the government shutdown, I was trying to avoid spending any money. I had paused sugaring and cuddle comfort sessions but still some of the sugar babies and CC professionals reached out. I told them about my situation and I was taking a pause for right now and a couple of them ended up blocking me from texting and block me on SA and CC but not all where like t hat.

I had one SB said we could skip the room and just have a date in her SUV. I was surprised when one pro from CC, She is strictly platonic cuddler at least for me, provided me with a free 90 minute cuddle session! She said I have been a good client, and she was confident that once the shutdown ended, we'd be able to pick up our sessions again.

A lot of this reminds of Season 1 of The GirlFriend Experience About not backing down on rates, I have not seen the other seasons but I liked Riley Keough, who's Elvis Presley Granddaughter, in season 1. She plays an upscale escort.

Recap from Vulture.com and they even referenced Tits and SASS article on never Running Specials.

There is a scene where she is with a regular client who When Christine presses him, he reveals he's not quite as wealthy as he's led her to believe. Regular sessions have been stressing his finances (even apparently causing him to take out loans), but the thought of ending the relationship is too much for him to bear. Christine suggests they see each other less, Kevin asks her to lower her rate, and she offers to figure out an arrangement that'll offer some sort of happy medium. Later in the episode, the two regroup: After giving it some thought, Christine's decided she has to cut Kevin loose. "I just can't make exceptions," she says as he pleads with her to reconsider.

https://titsandsass.com/if-i-cant-se...ning-specials/

To go with this, I have posted about Kaydee before. Like one of the comments " She was good before she wasn't".

I started going over her to see her when she had that apartment in Wilson, she had that big puppy dog crate in the apartment and then even when she was out in Statonsburg. She asked me to send her 25 dollars and she did, she invited me over and didn't take any payment that was a great time, she was an acrobat that day but of course she started blowing my phone up afterwards. Statonsburg was when I stopped seeing her, the broken window and the rundown place out in the boondocks. You could tell this was not going to end well for anyone involved. Her and her buddy was not worth the 100 dollar dream.

Unto Cuddle Comfort down through the years on CC, I have seen 30 cuddlers, I have posted some of them in the Raleigh CC thread, Only 3 have been platonic for me. YMMV.

One of the three that was platonic for me was GypsyCuddler, She had another name LuvsHugs or something but she was strictly platonic with me but then I see from other threads.

She had a menu. She's banned on CC. I saw a post where she is on Cuddle Companions.

Going back to that Vulture article in reference to CC, the three pros. I am talking pros I really enjoyed and also all 3 at one time or another where / still on Seeking.

1. Pinkbabybunny. Her menu was too expensive but almost everything was on the able. I just couldn't pay that every time. She's has deleted her CC account.

2. Nerdie Birdy. Always a great time, she's seems semi-pro now, great conversation, awesome massages, incredible FS she has so much energy but she is pricey with a full menu.

3. Sweet and Strong. She is really the one I would compare to the character in GFE. I knew when she located to the District she would do great. Silicon Hills, Silicon Valley, Seaport District these are locations she would do great because she's a comic book geek and Techie, You can hangout in a comic book store with her and she wouldn't be bored, She looks so sexy reading the books. I may have to request for her to dress as a librarian next time I am in The District. Exceptional conversation, she doesn't match Nerdie's energy in the bedroom, I think few can, if Nerdie is into you she puts her back into and you're going to have a great time:0 but where Strong stands out is she is more intimate and sensual but like all of that I have mentioned the menu is / was nice but expensive.

I am not even going to say.

I should change my screenname to Kevin Yung based off the character from the Girlfriend Experience. I am not a Whale or MrSponsor when it comes to sugaring or having a session with someone from CC.

I couldn't see paying that much even if I had Elon Musk money.

Again YMMV!

That's my two cents. Nanu Nanu, and may your arrangements be plentiful!

This is a great review of your experiences. Since some of these ladies aren't on CC or other anymore, do you think any would mind you sharing contact information?

[NiteLifed69]

I like this thread so I will post my reflections here.

During the government shutdown, I was trying to avoid spending any money. I had paused sugaring and cuddle comfort sessions but still some of the sugar babies and CC professionals reached out. I told them about my situation and I was taking a pause for right now and a couple of them ended up blocking me from texting and block me on SA and CC but not all where like t hat.

I had one SB said we could skip the room and just have a date in her SUV. I was surprised when one pro from CC, She is strictly platonic cuddler at least for me, provided me with a free 90 minute cuddle session! She said I have been a good client, and she was confident that once the shutdown ended, we'd be able to pick up our sessions again.

A lot of this reminds of Season 1 of The GirlFriend Experience About not backing down on rates, I have not seen the other seasons but I liked Riley Keough, who's Elvis Presley Granddaughter, in season 1. She plays an upscale escort.

Recap from Vulture.com and they even referenced Tits and SASS article on never Running Specials.

There is a scene where she is with a regular client who When Christine presses him, he reveals he's not quite as wealthy as he's led her to believe. Regular sessions have been stressing his finances (even apparently causing him to take out loans), but the thought of ending the relationship is too much for him to bear. Christine suggests they see each other less, Kevin asks her to lower her rate, and she offers to figure out an arrangement that'll offer some sort of happy medium. Later in the episode, the two regroup: After giving it some thought, Christine's decided she has to cut Kevin loose. "I just can't make exceptions," she says as he pleads with her to reconsider.

https://titsandsass.com/if-i-cant-se...ning-specials/

To go with this, I have posted about Kaydee before. Like one of the comments " She was good before she wasn't".

I started going over her to see her when she had that apartment in Wilson, she had that big puppy dog crate in the apartment and then even when she was out in Statonsburg. She asked me to send her 25 dollars and she did, she invited me over and didn't take any payment that was a great time, she was an acrobat that day but of course she started blowing my phone up afterwards. Statonsburg was when I stopped seeing her, the broken window and the rundown place out in the boondocks. You could tell this was not going to end well for anyone involved. Her and her buddy was not worth the 100 dollar dream.

Unto Cuddle Comfort down through the years on CC, I have seen 30 cuddlers, I have posted some of them in the Raleigh CC thread, Only 3 have been platonic for me. YMMV.

One of the three that was platonic for me was GypsyCuddler, She had another name LuvsHugs or something but she was strictly platonic with me but then I see from other threads.

She had a menu. She's banned on CC. I saw a post where she is on Cuddle Companions.

Going back to that Vulture article in reference to CC, the three pros. I am talking pros I really enjoyed and also all 3 at one time or another where / still on Seeking.

1. Pinkbabybunny. Her menu was too expensive but almost everything was on the able. I just couldn't pay that every time. She's has deleted her CC account.

2. Nerdie Birdy. Always a great time, she's seems semi-pro now, great conversation, awesome massages, incredible FS she has so much energy but she is pricey with a full menu.

3. Sweet and Strong. She is really the one I would compare to the character in GFE. I knew when she located to the District she would do great. Silicon Hills, Silicon Valley, Seaport District these are locations she would do great because she's a comic book geek and Techie, You can hangout in a comic book store with her and she wouldn't be bored, She looks so sexy reading the books. I may have to request for her to dress as a librarian next time I am in The District. Exceptional conversation, she doesn't match Nerdie's energy in the bedroom, I think few can, if Nerdie is into you she puts her back into and you're going to have a great time:0 but where Strong stands out is she is more intimate and sensual but like all of that I have mentioned the menu is / was nice but expensive.

I am not even going to say.

I should change my screenname to Kevin Yung based off the character from the Girlfriend Experience. I am not a Whale or MrSponsor when it comes to sugaring or having a session with someone from CC.

I couldn't see paying that much even if I had Elon Musk money.

Again YMMV!

That's my two cents. Nanu Nanu, and may your arrangements be plentiful!

[LoloNah999]

Yes brother, I'm aware. I'm not tall I'm regular guy, not even that big LOL, but thing is I've done it before when market was less saturated I jumped on ball fast but gambled that away and lost a few good girls. But that's in the past now and I'm basically just looking for random advice or research. You are right for the most part but you also have to remember, porn is art, sex is art form, yes it's easier if you know what market and demographic you are getting into bc that's preset, but that doesn't mean every line has been set. Markets and futures change. Too build something is easy if you have good people to work with, I'm looking for that mainly brother, but I appreciate that reality of and gravity of your response. Very valid. (sorry again for missing this one earlier).

Posting here on the off chance that this is a troll question.

Being successful on OF is hard. Being successful enough on OF to be able to quit your day job is even harder. And being successful on OF while being a man is much, much harder. Women don't consume much porn, and if they do, they want their porn models to look like greek Gods. So you got to be tall, you got to be fit, you got to have a face card that would make Henry Cavill jealous, and you got to have a decently long and thick dick. And a lot of women prefer erotic literature instead, so you're already starting with a disadvantage there.

Not to mention it's a lot of work to promote your OF everywhere, to entice enough subscribers at first, and then to maintain those subscribers because again, in this economy, not a lot of women have spare money lying around, unless you'd be okay with marketing to gay men? Even so, that market is small too.

I'm subscribed to a few free OF women, and I get pretty much a constant barrage of PPV videos. You have to think about what videos you want to create, create those videos, and then promote those videos to your subscribers. And not all your subscribers will buy all your videos.

I don't say all this to discourage you, but to be realistic. The market for men's OF is small. And you got to do some research to see which, if any, men's OFs are successful, what they do to be successful, whether you can or want to do the same thing, or if there is a different niche you want to establish yourself.

TL; DR, it's a LOT of work.

[JohnD89]

Would likely decrease unlawful trafficking, legitimize the space so that law abiding citizens could choose to partake in the industry on the provider and client side, and increase safety for all those involved from a health standpoint. Providers get fair pay and clients likely get far safer and better service. Make PreP easily accessible for all parties to further improve health safety.

I could not agree with you more. Electing Democrats is the only way to end these draconian laws in NC and TX, and potentially decriminalize it completely (Harris for instance has said she'd like to decriminalize prostitution between consenting adults, with neither side being charged). The GOP has radically changed over the past 12 years, with the bulk of their policy platform attempting to legislate their morality onto the rest of us. As an attorney, you might be surprised to learn that I think we would be far more free with less laws on the books.

[RelaxMode]

Many good viewpoints have been expressed on ICE and immigration. I'm for law enforcement because the law applies to both citizens and non-citizens. Law abiding citizens and non-citizens creates a safe environment for all. Having sanctuary cities who decide what laws the want to follow is dangerous. Having district attorneys who are social activists is dangerous. Having serial criminals not incarcerated is dangerous. Having LE engage in racial profiling is dangerous.

The Biden administration was wrong for having an open border. People were not vetted. Unaccompanied children are missing. People crossing the border during COVID were not quarantined and they did not receive the vaccination. A lot of wrongs here that put citizens at risk. The Trump administration is wrong for being heavy handed when conducting illegal alien sweeps. Congress and past administrations were wrong to not address legal and illegal immigration.

I'm keeping this brief because this can get deep quickly but politics is to blame. When politics is allowed to operate above the law and above the will of the people then we see the negative results that divides and creates more problems.

[MmceStep]

You nailed this, bro. You're obviously a good person and have your head on straight, since this is some bad mojo going on right now in this country and anyone who thinks it's fantastic is in denial. This isn't good for anyone and is the reason our Founders set up a separation fo powers, only that's clearly broken down.

Another point to note: We're on here for a reason. It's the Left in countries like Germany and others that regulate and legalize this hobby to protect women and men, which is the grown up way to handle it. It's never the Right because they're hell bent on legislating how we should act, think, and live while wrapped in the fucking flag. Rant over.

I could not agree with you more. Electing Democrats is the only way to end these draconian laws in NC and TX, and potentially decriminalize it completely (Harris for instance has said she'd like to decriminalize prostitution between consenting adults, with neither side being charged). The GOP has radically changed over the past 12 years, with the bulk of their policy platform attempting to legislate their morality onto the rest of us. As an attorney, you might be surprised to learn that I think we would be far more free with less laws on the books.

[RelaxMode]

I suppose this is the right section for this rant. I offer a lot more info on the boards than I request, my post history confirms that. I also do a ton of back channeling with members and provide / receive a lot of info that way. Some of you guys have been great! But I'm shocked how many of you will request information, often with a promise that you have some UTR or other info for me. And then simply ghost once I provide the info. Not even a thanks.

No more. It may seem petty but I'm keeping a list. If I give you info and you can't even be bothered to acknowledge or respond, don't bother reaching out again, I won't respond. And even worse, if you promise that you have some great info for me (as a way to get me to send what I have) and then never follow through, I'll straight up block you.

Sorry for the rant. Some great guys with great info here. But many (maybe most) are just leeches looking for info and offer no value. Many of the requests for info I get are from people with no posts at all. Offer some value to the board before you expect to get the benefits this board really can provide.

End of unsolicited rant.

Your rant is fair! I've only been active for a short time and I've also noticed that just a few who do follow-up when information has been given.

[YourCCPimp]

I too am moderate, however, I want the immigration laws of our nation enforced. ICE is simply enforcing existing law. Don't like the existing law? Change the law.

Regrettably, the immigration laws in this country have not been enforced for at least 30 years. For those in other countries whose lives are in danger, the UN has agreed upon the protocol for asserting an asylum claim. Under these protocols, the asylee is to claim asylum status in a neighboring country. For example, the referenced former Brazilian policeman should have claimed political asylum in Argentina for example, not the US. Truth be told, there aren't many political asylees. Most of them come to the US for work, which I fully understand. That said, I want my fellow Americans to have opportunity as well, the opportunity to work those shit jobs which incent one to acquire the skills to get a better job. It's difficult to do when those lower skill jobs are occupied by illegal aliens.

As for the constituency of ICE officers with chips on the shoulders, I don't know. I suspect many ICE officers are former military who the US government trained to use force.

I mean here is my take. It's not true that we don't enforce immigration laws. If someone is found to be here illegally, they get deported. That has always been the case. The difference is that you usually only get caught if you committed a crime and are found out in some other way. Now, we are more aggressively searching out people here illegally who often have committed no additional crimes.

But, I should point out two things. One, simply overstaying a visa is actually not a "crime", it's a civil penalty. Crossing the border is a crime but only a misdemeanor leading to deportation.

ICE has drawn a number of resources away from other crime-fighting areas such as anti-trafficking and other types of true criminal investigations. Is it worth it? No, I don't think so. Let's focus on the really dangerous people and, if they happen to be here illegally, deal with them at that point. Many of the rest are simply here working and taking jobs that no one else really wants (and getting no additional benefits to do so).

Similarly, what other "crimes" are we sending people in with masked goons to capture them proactively?

[CuriousVaMan]

I too am moderate, however, I want the immigration laws of our nation enforced. ICE is simply enforcing existing law. Don't like the existing law? Change the law.

Regrettably, the immigration laws in this country have not been enforced for at least 30 years. For those in other countries whose lives are in danger, the UN has agreed upon the protocol for asserting an asylum claim. Under these protocols, the asylee is to claim asylum status in a neighboring country. For example, the referenced former Brazilian policeman should have claimed political asylum in Argentina for example, not the US. Truth be told, there aren't many political asylees. Most of them come to the US for work, which I fully understand. That said, I want my fellow Americans to have opportunity as well, the opportunity to work those shit jobs which incent one to acquire the skills to get a better job. It's difficult to do when those lower skill jobs are occupied by illegal aliens.

As for the constituency of ICE officers with chips on the shoulders, I don't know. I suspect many ICE officers are former military who the US government trained to use force.

It has always been my impression that a majority recruited to ICE have a chip on their shoulders and are ready to unload violence on those less fortunate than them (whether they be immigrants or American citizens). Likely a good amount of racist tendencies amongst the group. If democrats gain power again, I imagine there will be inquiries and indictments to follow and we'll get a look behind the curtain on what type of folks were recruited. Many of us moderates and those that run in the middle politically don't want any of this at all. A lot of immigrants come here to seek the American dream and are really hard workers and generally good folks. There are bad eggs in any group and I'll be honest, my assumption is there are as many solidly rotten eggs that work within ICE as there are in the immigrant population that comes here. ICE exploiting others with newly unfettered power to pretty much detain anyone they want without much legal recourse is incredibly dangerous. The similarities to the gestapo are chilling in my mind. I'm just waiting for when one of them actually kills a US citizen.

I would strongly avoid any interaction with them and I'm a born and bred American. You just don't know what they are capable of and how to what depths they'll go to coverup any unlawful actions that they may engage in during their raid activities. Incentivizing the bagging of extra 'bodies' on top of mandatory quotas just rewards bad behavior.

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[PleasureSeeker]

That's not really their emphasis. The brother of one of my friends is on one of the teams. Simply put, they get a bonus for every removal beyond quota, and they have a quota to remove each day / month. I have another friend that runs a business where he needs blue collar laborers (a job Americans don't want to do, low pay, high impact on the body). He's lost two employees since this all began (he thinks he's really lucky that it's only two). Both were here legally with work visas. Neither had a criminal record. One of them had even been a cop in Brasil and was nabbed going into an asylum hearing where he was required to bring his evidence of his police career. He had photos, his police I'd, etc. He left Brasil because the gangs were threatening to kill his family. He basically goes back broke because his wife and child self deported to be with him, before they sold their belongings here (really dumb). Needless to say, he's going to be in a rough spot once he's back there. I haven't spoken to the ICE guy myself yet, but his brother told me they 'don't care at all' whether or not someone's done a crime. Their goal is removals, so hassling, or deceiving someone here legally is 'just as good'. This is why they're going into Home Depot, going up to landscapers etc. There are very few situations where they have a specific person in mind.

BTW Step: Ever consider going to the press with what you know or heard from the inside? Honestly, what you're saying their talking about internally is national news and would be important to le the press know, even possibly anonymously. That's some corrupt, Nazi shit.