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  1. #20059

    More info on Sunny at H8 and Rosie at BO

    Any intel on these two? How is the service, and what's the damage? Also, when do they usually work?

    I'm into young slim white dancers, any recommendations? New to the hobby. Thanks a lot guys.

  2. #20058
    Quote Originally Posted by Incognito1234  [View Original Post]
    I found her on IG as yourfav_bunny.
    That's it. Her OF should be linked on her IG.

  3. #20057
    Quote Originally Posted by WraithSlayer03  [View Original Post]
    She's sexy on her Instagram and OF posts, but she is extremely sexy in person!

    - Slayer out.
    I found her on IG as yourfav_bunny.

  4. #20056
    Quote Originally Posted by WraithSlayer03  [View Original Post]
    Finally met Dream at H8 tonight. Definitely worth my hr drive to see her. She's sexy on her Instagram and OF posts, but she is extremely sexy in person! Totally my type! Which is why I didn't last all that long in VIP. She said she would message me when she's working at SC, says she would like me to see her there since the VIP area is more accommodating. Definitely will be repeating as much as I can afford!

    - Slayer out.
    I'm glad to hear that you had a good time. I didn't know that she had an IG or OF. Would you mind posting her screen names or messaging me with them?

  5. #20055

    H8 Dream

    Finally met Dream at H8 tonight. Definitely worth my hr drive to see her. She's sexy on her Instagram and OF posts, but she is extremely sexy in person! Totally my type! Which is why I didn't last all that long in VIP. She said she would message me when she's working at SC, says she would like me to see her there since the VIP area is more accommodating. Definitely will be repeating as much as I can afford!

    - Slayer out.

  6. #20054
    Quote Originally Posted by Incognito1234  [View Original Post]
    Looking forward to seeing your report. I'm interested in how SC is on Sunday night.
    She's actually at H8 tonight for the appreciation night (I think). I just pulled in the lot. My first time at a club in a few years.

  7. #20053
    Quote Originally Posted by Incognito1234  [View Original Post]
    Looking forward to seeing your report. I'm interested in how SC is on Sunday night.
    Bro, go to henrry, she is dancing there today, just saw her ig. LOL.

  8. #20052
    Quote Originally Posted by WraithSlayer03  [View Original Post]
    Heading to SC tonight to see Dream / Bunny.
    Looking forward to seeing your report. I'm interested in how SC is on Sunday night.

  9. #20051

    SC tonight

    Heading to SC tonight to see Dream / Bunny.

  10. #20050
    Quote Originally Posted by WinterKnight  [View Original Post]
    I'm sorry, I was not trying to be snarky. I'm saying I agree with you that reviews do more good overall than harm.

    And, to take your questions seriously, no, the clubs won't be offering benefits, as their dancers are all independent contractors. But if we are assuming the club operators read the reviews, isn't it reasonable to assume they would not continue to hire the dancers that are bad for business? And encourage the better dancers to continue working there?

    To clarify "change my reporting style " I would resume posting reviews with less personally identifying detail, and offer details in PM, that's all.
    Apparently, I misread the tone of your response. Inflection can be sometimes be difficult to interpret through posts.

    We need more contributions to the forum, so it would be nice to see you start posting again, even if the posts are somewhat general in nature. There's a number of people who prefer to keep the details in PM, which is understandable, if you have a dancer who isn't happy about the details of her session with her being revealed publicly. Still, if a dancer is doing bad business, I'd hope you'd expose her for that on the board, rather than only in PM's.

    Regarding the idea that club operators should read reviews and stop hiring the dancers who are bad for business, I'm torn. Even if a dancer isn't good for customers, the club still makes money from stage fees and drink sales from guys who get pulled in by them, simply because they don't know better. That's a big reason why our reviews matter. When enough guys have the knowledge to avoid the bad ones, the good dancers have more opportunities to make money, and it forces the bad dancers to either improve their approach or go elsewhere.

    One dancer immediately comes to mind as I'm typing this. For years, there was a dancer at Henry's South named Natalie. After South closed, she moved to North, and she might still show up there from time to time. Natalie is a white dancer with long brunette hair, just past her shoulders, and she was in nursing school forever — like 10 years or more. They must've had VERY long semesters at her school. I'm not sure if she ever got her diploma. Anyway, her body type is somewhat similar to Dallas on North's day shift, although not as fit.

    Natalie was notorious for talking a great game out front, but once she got to the back, everything changed. I'm not sure how many guys she pulled in simply because they didn't know any better, but she kept that routine going for a very long time. Plenty of guys were fooled by her.

    As for the dancers here being considered independent contractors, the rules must be different in this area. Every so often, I visit Kentucky, and when I get the chance, I'll go to the Spearmint Rhino in Lexington. A few years ago, during a conversation with one of the dancers there, I learned that they don't have set start or end times. They come and go as they please and don't pay stage fees. Additionally, as independent contractors, they're able to write off job-related expenses — even things like cosmetic surgery. I suppose the dancers in Michigan could write those things off too, and while I don't know if anything has changed at the SR since then, that's the story I was told.

  11. #20049
    Quote Originally Posted by MareloboMex  [View Original Post]
    I1234,

    I agree with you. Reviews help mongers.

    Particularly bad reviews. Girls will hustle and I don't begrudge their hustle. I am usually thorough in my negotiation and conversation at the table. I rarely go back with those girls who plop down and say want to dance. It is kind of like saying want a bad dance.

    However if I talk with her and build chemistry and am attracted to her. I am clear and specific and don't leave any room for misunderstandings. If a girl then tries to cheat me, I presume she tries to cheat everyone. There are few recourses a monger has when a girl is determined to cheat. The best he can do is stop the session and don't waste any more money, and correspondingly adjust the payment to whatever time you were in the VIP, because you have not paid her yet.

    However girls can survive for months cheating guy after guy. While the regulars quickly avoid her the clubs have enough infrequent visitors, especially if she is hot to cheat guy after guy. Reviews are one of the few methods for correcting her behavior (which is rare) or having her decide stripping is not for her. I am cautious when another guy posts he was cheated. I will usually avoid those girls or she has to be super hot for me to take the chance.

    As for girls who do a good job, I prefer to post that I had a session with so and so, and I enjoyed it, I intend to repeat, and suggest most other guys would enjoy her company also.MM.
    MM,

    Thank you for the well thought out and detailed response.

    In regard to the specific amounts, maybe I've been a bit too forthcoming about the negotiations between dancers and mongers. While pricing may vary from customer to customer, due to regularity, comfort and other factors, there's typically a standard or average rate at Henry's. The reality of the situation is that we're paying for 15-20 minute quickies / ss, in a back room, so the pricing shouldn't be absurdly expensive. IMO, when it gets to the $200 + range, that's rates for OTC.

    Still, reviews help us all. In my opinion, you'd think that driving money to dancers that require with far less effort on their part, would be very welcomed by them.

    My reviews are getting to the point to where it's mostly just rehash anyway. I have 4-5 dancers that I go back with on a semi-regular basis, and usually 3-4 new experiences a year. There's a lot to be said for comfort and familiarity.

  12. #20048
    Quote Originally Posted by HornKnee  [View Original Post]
    Thanks. Next time I'm in that area (don't know when that'll be, but still), I might hit SC instead of H8. From what I remember, the VIP tax is 10 bucks a visit, which isn't bad. Has that changed?
    No and I believe you only pay it your first time going back there.

  13. #20047
    Quote Originally Posted by Incognito1234  [View Original Post]
    Well, I'm more familiar with a number of people and dancers at Henry's, so that makes it more comfortable. It's difficult for me to compare the two, because I haven't been at the Criket in so long, I don't know how their usual lineup is or how many they usually have working. There might have been a lot of dancers there, due to the Lions game. Maybe they were expecting a lot of guys to come in?

    You'll certainly see a lot of black and latin girls at the Criket. The only thing that I can say that's significantly different are the back rooms. Henry's rooms are phone booth sized, with beat up and well used padded seats, whereas a Criket was a larger space that had a padded, couch style seat. I'd guess about twice the size of an ottoman and slightly deeper toward the back, is about the best way I can describe it. It was certainly far easier to maneuver on.
    Thanks. Next time I'm in that area (don't know when that'll be, but still), I might hit SC instead of H8. From what I remember, the VIP tax is 10 bucks a visit, which isn't bad. Has that changed?

  14. #20046

    Such an interesting read thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by MareloboMex  [View Original Post]
    I1234,

    I agree with you. Reviews help mongers.

    Particularly bad reviews. Girls will hustle and I don't begrudge their hustle. I am usually thorough in my negotiation and conversation at the table. I rarely go back with those girls who plop down and say want to dance. It is kind of like saying want a bad dance.

    However if I talk with her and build chemistry and am attracted to her. I am clear and specific and don't leave any room for misunderstandings. If a girl then tries to cheat me, I presume she tries to cheat everyone. There are few recourses a monger has when a girl is determined to cheat. The best he can do is stop the session and don't waste any more money, and correspondingly adjust the payment to whatever time you were in the VIP, because you have not paid her yet.
    This is such an interesting read, thank you.

  15. #20045
    Quote Originally Posted by Incognito1234  [View Original Post]
    Here's my take: Dancer reviews are a net positive.

    Not controversial, not complicated just true. They make things better and easier for pretty much everyone involved.
    I1234,

    I agree with you. Reviews help mongers.

    Particularly bad reviews. Girls will hustle and I don't begrudge their hustle. I am usually thorough in my negotiation and conversation at the table. I rarely go back with those girls who plop down and say want to dance. It is kind of like saying want a bad dance.

    However if I talk with her and build chemistry and am attracted to her. I am clear and specific and don't leave any room for misunderstandings. If a girl then tries to cheat me, I presume she tries to cheat everyone. There are few recourses a monger has when a girl is determined to cheat. The best he can do is stop the session and don't waste any more money, and correspondingly adjust the payment to whatever time you were in the VIP, because you have not paid her yet.

    However girls can survive for months cheating guy after guy. While the regulars quickly avoid her the clubs have enough infrequent visitors, especially if she is hot to cheat guy after guy. Reviews are one of the few methods for correcting her behavior (which is rare) or having her decide stripping is not for her. I am cautious when another guy posts he was cheated. I will usually avoid those girls or she has to be super hot for me to take the chance.

    As for girls who do a good job, I prefer to post that I had a session with so and so, and I enjoyed it, I intend to repeat, and suggest most other guys would enjoy her company also.

    As for specifics I think those are best negotiated between the dancer and the monger and don't need to be posted on the board. Or they can be discussed in other non girl specific posts. Like I never pay more than $300, I usually am under $250 and often under $200.

    When I first started mongering a wrote a review in 2012 on a girl named Luna. It was a good review as I had a great time with her, and she told me she didn't appreciate the review. However that didn't stop her from taking me to the VIP again. We discussed the review and I asked her what did she find objectionable? And she said I quoted the wrong price. I replied no I reported what I paid. She countered saying that she told me her price is $400, but because I am special and she really likes me, she only charged me $180, and I reported that I paid her $180. After this conversation I reported another review on Luna saying exactly this, that Luna informed me her normal price is $400, but because I am special I got a discount. Other mongers who want her attention have to pay more than I do. Luna and I did several more sessions all of which I enjoyed. She did eventually raise my price to $200, but for that I required her to let me cum on her face which is something she had refused until then. I blasted a massive load on her pretty face, and after she got done complaining about how much cum there was, she informed me not to post that she let cum on her face. I agreed not to post about it until she stopped dancing.

    Reviews provide further valuable information. While many guys like bare back, I am kind of a paranoid person, so I never do bare back. I like to read reviews about dancers who refuse bare back and often seek out those girls. Many times they are the hotter girls in my opinion.

    Similarly with girls who don't give BJs or only do BJs. I am flexible and often like different services.

    In 2017 I enjoyed a girl named Ariel. She did not want to do BJ and should only worked a few weeks. Many guys refused to take her to the VIP or did only 1 song when she said she was dance only. I told her I was ok with that. She was hot 18 year old girl and I enjoyed watching her masturbate to orgasm. One night in the VIP she confided in me she needed more money and asked if I would do additional dances with her. I declined but offered I would pay her more money if she offered additional services. I left it up to her to suggest what she wanted to do to earn that money. I said I know she doesn't like giving BJs and I don't want a bad BJ. I ask her how much more she needed? She said $100 would really help her out, and she mentioned that she likes having sex. She was really tight and felt great. She soon got a boyfriend a stopped dancing, returning to the strip club when she was 21 years old, divorced with 2 kids and 50 pounds heavier. I declined to take to the VIP with her when she returned but am still enjoying the memories of her to this day.

    Similarly I knew four girls in 2017 Chrissie, Mia, Lily and Sammie. They were all 18 except for Sammie who was 19. They knew about doing extras but they only wanted to do BJs. However it seems most guys where interested in a bit more, and they couldn't consistently make the money they needed. Sammie was the first to open her legs to Marelobo. As Sammie told the story the 4 girls had been discussing and thinking about providing sex and Chrissie has actually been with 4 guys in the VIP already but the other girls had not. Sammie was soaking wet while I fingered her and I told her It would be an honor to be her first VIP sex session. She thought about and and said ok do it quickly before I change my mind. She was super tight and I asked her if she ever had sex before, and she replied yes I was the 4th guy to have sex with her in her whole life. When she told me that I got hard a second time and took her twice on that night.

    Sammie shared with Mia and Lily how gentle I was with her and the girls agreed based on my smaller size of equipment I wouldn't hurt any of them. Mia and Lily each said I was only the 3rd guy to have sex with them in there lives.

    When I finally saw Chrissie, I walked in the club and she saw me enter and went running across the room and gave me a big hug and she whispered in my ear that she is now an extras girl, and she wants to take me to the VIP show off her new services. I of course smiled and said yes. She knew I had been with each of her friends. Chrissie is the girl I had talked to the most and she swore up and down she was ok to do BJs, but would only have sex with her boyfriends. I ask her what changed? She replied that 50 year old guy really like having sex with me. The other 3 girls stopped stripping during the next 6 months, although Sammie did briefly return when she was 21. Chrissie was a regular in the clubs between 2017 and 2019. I would often struggle to decide if I would have her 1 time or 2 times a night. With one night actually enjoying her 3 times. I did a total of 25 VIPs with her while she was dancing.

    I think reviews help direct us toward the girls that each individual enjoys the most and increases the number of our successful sessions, while reducing the money spent on bad sessions. Guys who can go often can do their own research but for infrequent visitor reviews increase in value. I also like reading reviews about girls I have sampled and it helps me relive the fun time I had with them.

    MM.

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