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  1. #10309
    Quote Originally Posted by Stonkz  [View Original Post]
    If Mac Baby is legit 300 base then I will see her again tonight.
    Quick update, Mac Baby is 380 hr. It was a typo now fixed.

    Quote Originally Posted by BettingMan2000  [View Original Post]
    Their goal is not to see 48 broke mongers a week. The goal for them is to get the above average income monger that will repeat for multiple hours and tip well. And there are plenty of those. Sure not as many as broke mongers, but you only need a handful to get your numbers up and workload down.
    So Nali regularly gets 2 hour booking because she is cheap and high value. Only about 5% of kgirls are the right type to be able to charge more. More generally, each guy finds his type of girl and that exists at every price point. For example, I can afford to book premium kgirls multi-hours but there are simply other girls I like more who aren't premium. I do consider price as a factor, because I'd rather book 4 hours with a cheap ATF than 2 hours with an expensive ATF. They're both ATFs to me and with the expensive one I'm going to make sure I'm done with her in an hour.

    As a result, I tend to book multi-hours more on cheap girls not expensive girls. Many guys are this way and not the other way.

    More likely though, I just see the high value girls a lot more often.

  2. #10308
    Quote Originally Posted by Stonkz  [View Original Post]
    All these up charge girls don't understand that the average monger isn't rich.
    Their goal is not to see 48 broke mongers a week. The goal for them is to get the above average income monger that will repeat for multiple hours and tip well. And there are plenty of those. Sure not as many as broke mongers, but you only need a handful to get your numbers up and workload down.

  3. #10307
    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    A guy with a much higher budget than me (aka rich guy Premium Hunter) is going to tack on a 25% to 50% bonus to premium kgirls. Or even just ignore Value Rating and only look at Total Score. My highest scoring kgirls are Lizza, Nali, and Baby Sugar. But central to that is my service standards are very different than a service hunter's. Lucky me.

    A budget guy is going to drop any girl above a certain price likewise. But I do know people on a budget who see premium girls, it make sense if they find and pick a girl who is exactly their type.
    If Mac Baby is legit 300 base then I will see her again tonight. A lot of girls are over priced so competition is good. Once Mali comes back to OC with Jenny K working here in LA, a lot of girls will need to rethink their pricing. Jenny K here is booked out a few days already. All these up charge girls don't understand that the average monger isn't rich. And even if we were rich, we aren't stupid enough to overpay for pussy. I for one am only stupid enough to pay if you're hot LMFAO. So I may tofft you, but in order to get me to repeat you would have to be hot. For example, in the current line up, the girls who were hot enough to get me to repeat (2 days in a row) were Baby Yul and Yaya J. Baby solvi was hot enough to get me to repeat eventually once her service improved because I love spinners. Mac baby would have made the list if she had CIP, but at 300 I won't mind. But if Love Q ever comes back to LA, sheeeesh she will be 100% of my bookings. I can totally ignore the value rating if you an S TIER HYA because it makes it easier to book when you up charge lmfao.

  4. #10306

    Mira

    Has anyone seen the new HYA Mira? 21 yo, 5'5" shapely blonde with great service too boot- true or false?

  5. #10305
    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    Kiko aka Gigi 8.7 (A- Looks A Service), 29 Points Value (370)
    Jiji 8.0 (C- Looks A Service), 24 Points Value (340)
    Two typos on the above girls. Kiko is A- Looks S Service, still 29 Points. She is my type since she is TOAS spec. I copied the service rating off a girl below her. Jiji is a 5. 7 Score which is 21 Points. I copied that number off the girl above her on the spreadsheet. 21 Points still puts her in regular rotation since she does anything I want for A Service.

    C-A and A-C girls are equivalent for me for the purpose of regular rotation. So C-Tier is just as bad for Looks as it is for service, since C-Tier service means the girl isn't trying trying hard enough or we don't get along. I value effort and compatibility more, whereas most guys value skill and like a different type of service than me. I can compensate for a girl's lack of skill, but not for her lack of attitude.

    Value Rating is mainly for regular rotation girls. For brand new girls to me, I am "looks first" for just the first visit.

  6. #10304
    You'll have to..

    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7445147 11/16 Boner Update
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7444834 11/16 Tguffin Update
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7434224 11/4 Stonkz Update
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7432567 11/2 CumSquat Update

    Detailed Intel
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7448381 GKS Stella, Susie K aka Sochi
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7440500 Baby Nia
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7445721 Multi girl thick
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7445457 Milan
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7445061 Baby Cherry
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7445108 Sochi and Solvi
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7444541 Ria J
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7444145 Zia
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7443485 Stella
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7442683 Baby Solvi
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7442165 Sochi aka Susie K
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7438711 Baby Leina
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7438691 Multi girl
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7438500 Mac Baby
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7438088 Multi girl HYA
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7437868 Minji
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7437644 Mac Baby
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7434093 Lime
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7432602 Baby Yul aka Baby Soa
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7432564 Allie aka Mina
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7432509 Multi girl tits
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7432469 Stella aka Sweet
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7432445 Baby Yul
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7432254 Stella aka Sweet

    Mac Baby is now 300 hr (100 bb), a 27% increase in value for GFE hr, 20% increase in value for bb hr. Hopefully no allergy to nuts. See Ria J before she's gone. Baby Twenty is Zia with a Twenty discount. No CIP due to nut allergy.

    I bolded Baby Cherry and Baby Leina etc.. since they are Boner reviews and I'm familiar with his standards. He reviews consistently and you can run the Furiosa test by comparing his past reviews to your taste. It doesn't mean a random other guy will like them, but I know I like girls he likes. It is like a Venn diagram of girls where Boner's girls are in a circle within mine. I like women too much! So that's why I focus on describing girls rather than merely listing out girls I like. My boat has a shallow hull and doesn't get shipwrecked when other guys would. For that reason, I try to avoid risky borderline recs or clearly label them in case some guy has high standards.

    This is an important principle. I can explain clearly and simply why I liked each girl I liked, but that's not going to help other people who want something different. Therefore, I focus on listing out all the top specs that really matter. Leslie K has the cutest dimples for example, but that won't matter at all in deciding if a guy likes her or not - that will be decided instead on bigger specs like her natural B tits, her level of looks and service, her skills, her vibe type, and so on. So dimples are an example of a non-spec which is nice to talk about but doesn't matter.

    Commentary / Follow-up
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7448771 Ria J
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7448726 Baby Twenty
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7448550 Min
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7440580 Baby Nia
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7446852 Mocha
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7445347 Baby Cherry
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7445044 Sunny
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7444875 Collette
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7442679 Baby Solvi
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7434625 Japan Delivery Health

    Other
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7441544 Overall rankings for LA
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7449713 Value Rankings
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7437223 001 condoms
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7426841 Corg tips 1
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7427535 Corg tips 2
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26373-Korean-Agency-BB Legend of Kora
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26373-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7448219&viewfull=1#post7448219 Dumb Legends
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7444569 Jenny K at KDC
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7444476 Jenny K Theorem
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7445393 Reviewer taste clusters
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7438830 11/9 Boner Update
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7437109 Rates
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7435356 Era of the Gatesmashers
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7434466 Japan Tokyo Hentai Club
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7431960 Let's Drive to OC Club

    Once again I'll attach a meme of Jenny and Evian combining into Nali, to elaborate. Jenny is a girl who fucked me a lot, Evian is a girl who fucked me really hard. When Nali was fucking back hard, I had flashbacks to Evian who did it even harder. I have fond memories of begging Evian not to bang me so hard, but she couldn't understand my English and kept doing it. Her skill was almost wasted on me. Next time, I was able to explain to her by translator that I didn't need a service queen, because I'll be the service king. Those three girls were all "do it for you" girls, when I was looking for a "let me do it" girl. Since I found Evian hot, I persuaded her to try it my way. We alternated sessions from that point on. Other people noticed how Nali was a combo of Jenny and Evian. Two Shot Jenny as we called her in OC.

    Next image is a body model for Evian around February (it varied over time). Next, a body model for Baby Peach, then a lookalike model for Baby Mury. If you see Baby Mury or Baby Rose show up on the rosters in the future, you can look up my old reviews. I already did my duty, I figure if I mention it here only the best and smartest might remember. With premium girls like Daisy and Katie K, I buried my first review in the middle of long PSAs so only the smartest people would notice. Then they see the girls and start the snowball of reviews hopefully. With the help of reviewers like you, we can keep the train running a long time.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails SS Nali Fusion.jpg‎   Iku Kuro 02.jpg‎   Team Peach.jpg‎   Lookslike Mury.jpg‎  

  7. #10303

    Boner Certified Min

    It's good to have options.

    Contact: (click here).

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaamper  [View Original Post]
    All good. CGLA Min is back, so I'll creampie her instead!

  8. #10302
    Quote Originally Posted by Stonkz  [View Original Post]
    All I need to know is if CIP is on the table now lmao, if it is, I'm going to call her Baby Mac now. I wonder why she drop it so low from 380 to 300. I guess it's because theres competition between non CIP girls LOL.
    An 80 drop is a huge boost in value for any girl, a 27% increase. It's the difference between a 15 Value Rating girl and a 19 Value Rating girl. Assuming Mac Baby is not allergic to nuts and has decent stats, it puts her ahead.

    I'm going to list out some ATFs that I've rated ranked in order of Value Rating, but with their Total Score (Looks + Service) listed in front of the Value Rating. An S-Tier Looks A-Tier Service girl is 9 Total Score (5.0 + 4.0). I've only rated a handful of girls, but it shows a very clear pattern. This list is ordered by highest "good value" girls first:

    Value Rankings - Name, Total Score (Looks, Service), Value Rating (hr bb price)
    Nali 9.3 (A Looks S+ Service), 32 Points Value (360)
    Haven 8.0 (B+ Looks S- Service), 29 Points value (340)
    Purple K aka Tiara 8.0 (A Looks A Service), 29 Points Value, (350)
    Kiko aka Gigi 8.7 (A- Looks A Service), 29 Points Value (370)
    Allie aka Mina 7.7 (A- Looks A Service), 28 Points Value (340)
    Baby Arin 8.7 (A Looks S- Service), 27 Points Value (420)
    FA Isabella 11.3 (SS Looks S+ Service), 24 Points Value (320 GFE only), -30% for GFE only
    Jenny K 7.3 (B Looks A+ Service), 26 Points Value (350)
    Kuzumi J aka Ai 8.0 (A+ Looks A Service), 24 Points Value (460)
    Jiji 8.0 (C- Looks A Service), 24 Points Value (340)
    Lizza aka Dalli 9.3 (A+ Looks, S Service), 23 Points Value (500)
    ..
    Baby Rose 9.0 (S Looks A Service), 16 Points Value (700)
    Premium Jgirl Y 9.0 (SS Looks B Service), 16 Points Value (500, GFE only), -30% for GFE only
    Katie K 8.0 (S Looks B Service), 16 Points Value (570, no CIP), -10% for no CIP
    ..
    Premium Kgirl D 9.0 (S- Looks A Service), 11 Points Value (600, GFE only), -30% for GFE only
    Average Kgirl 3.0 (D Looks, C Service), 10 Points Value, (340)
    Dud 2.0 (D Looks, D Service), 7 Points Value

    Value Rating Scale
    20+ points: priority repeat
    15-19 points: periodic repeat (high but not top priority, or premium girls)
    11-14 points: one and done but satisfied due to "new girl" bonus
    7-10: average kgirl (D-C or C-D girl)

    For a girl to have a high Value Rating, she should have good looks, good service, and low price. That's it! A girl with very good looks, very good service, and very high price (aka premium girl) can manage to be "above average". What this means is I'll treat myself and see Katie K as an occasional luxury because she is so hot. But I'm not going to be repeating her all the time because I can repeat girls #1 through #8 almost two times instead. And those girls are amazing to me, too. Girls #1 through #8 are all normally priced, excepting Baby Arin.

    Note that Haven and Purple K had special rates for a few weeks (340 bb and 350 bb). Once Haven added 100 bb, her value score dropped from 29 Points to 22 (I previously forgot to add 25% bonus for hr rate). So still good, but she drops from 2nd place to 10th place. I'm happy still happy to see her and any girl 15 Points or higher, I'm just going to see them less often if there is a better choice.

    Next notice Kuzumi J, Lizza aka Dalli, and Baby Rose are all top tier ATFs for me in the 8 to 9 Total Score range (Looks + Service). They are each 3x as good as an average kgirl who has a Total Score of 3.0. So I consider them good value even with their higher rates. Just not top value like the girls above them. The top 7 or 8 girls in the example above are actually in the 7-11 Total Score range anyways. This is an important point - if you are patient you can always find great girls who are normal priced. And it might be as simple as taste - maybe I like Allie and FA Isabella a tier more than some other guy, so I walk in thinking I'm getting a real good deal. Lucky me! It doesn't mean someone else will agree, but the secret is other guys each have their own hidden gems that are normal priced. Find them.

    Isabella is GFE only, so I dock 30% off her score because that's what it's worth for me. A guy who is GFE only anyways doesn't dock anything! His list is going to look a bit different than mine, but we're still going to overlap. GFE only guys are going to see Purple K, Haven, and Nali too. Otoh, for some guys they'd dock 50% or more for GFE only. Which means only a few top tier girls make the exception list for them. I only drop 10% for "no CIP", but other guys are going to drop 30% or more. That's why specs matter, it's why intel counts differently to each guy. I list out boob sizes even though I kind of don't care about boob size myself (it is nice but never a dealbreaker for me).

    Jiji is the first example of a true service over looks girl that makes top 10. Not many C-Tier girls had A-Tier service probably it's just my taste but I was very compatible with her. The key reason she is 22 points though is she is cheap! So I felt like I could see her whenever I felt like, when some better looking girl was blocking me with her much higher rate. Not every premium girl was good value, but since they were all good looking at least they always managed to float above 10 if not above 15.

    One flaw of Total Score is there is a Vibe and Pussy and Compatibility factor not completely baked into Service. I give girls I have a special connection with about a 25% bonus, same as any girl "1st time" for the novelty / variety factor. Girls keep that bonus as long as I feel it. And I do occasionally visit some butterfaces just for their pussy. But for the most part, Vibe Pussy Compatability are partially reflected in Service. It's why I know Nali is higher skill than Isabella, but I like Isabella's style of service and connection more. It's just up to personal taste there.

    Premium girls rarely go below 10 Points for me. None of them are bad looking at all, but obviously not every one is my type. I really liked Katie K, but other guys liked her even more than me rating her S Looks S Service. And of course other guys didn't find her their type by contrast, maybe A Looks and C Service or something. For me, she was S Looks and A service my first visit. But after repeats I wrote down S Looks B Service for the average. Which is 5 + 3 = 8.0 Total Score. Since she was +150 BB with a high base rate, and no CIP (-10%), she was 16 Value Rating for me. But maybe I bring a 001 and enjoy her beauty and fun play. The calculation actually ends up 17 Value Rating if I see her GFE only. Which is actually about right because I did switch to cfs for that reason and felt it marginally better value. A GFE only guy would find her a true unicorn in both tier and value.

    This is what this formula really does for me. It spells out my own priorities and matches what I intuitively figure out over time anyways. It lets me compare multiple different options between girls of different rankings and different pricing and options. It also spells out exactly why I'm okay with some premium girls, but that duds are the real problem. It also lets me reverse-engineer how hot Kora or some cgirl would have to be for me to pay 1000 hr for her. I wonder if Kora is ymmv bb inclusive, though. It is hard to verify since all my intel is old. But even if it were free bb at 1000, Kora would score 12 Points even if she were S Looks S Service. Last I checked, she was not. However! There is a special rule that in a kgirl desert like LV, NYC, or Nova, every kgirl is +1 Tier. I've seen this rule proven over and over again, our A-Tier girls are their S-Tier girls. If she were SS-Tier, that would still make her 14 Points. Which on my chart is worth trying 1 time for curiosity. But only under the principle of "I am in a desert and I want to drink water". Fountain of Youth indeed.

    A guy with a much higher budget than me (aka rich guy Premium Hunter) is going to tack on a 25% to 50% bonus to premium kgirls. Or even just ignore Value Rating and only look at Total Score. My highest scoring kgirls are Lizza, Nali, and Baby Sugar. But central to that is my service standards are very different than a service hunter's. Lucky me.

    A budget guy is going to drop any girl above a certain price likewise. But I do know people on a budget who see premium girls, it make sense if they find and pick a girl who is exactly their type.

  9. #10301
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaamper  [View Original Post]
    CGLA has her listed at 380 +100. Either way, I'd verify rates carefully with booker before committing.
    To your point, it's interesting that CG never updated Baby Winter's reduced rate like Get9 did. And it appears CG is behind the 8-ball, with new girl Inna in OC. That is, Get9 already has her rates and start date advertised, whereas CG just shows (in their ad).

  10. #10300

    Mac Baby

    Quote Originally Posted by SsStuntCock  [View Original Post]
    I see Get9 advertising her in LA starting tomorrow with a -80 reduced base rate, so she's now 300. Same upcharges tho.
    All I need to know is if CIP is on the table now lmao, if it is, I'm going to call her Baby Mac now. I wonder why she drop it so low from 380 to 300. I guess it's because there’s competition between non CIP girls LOL.

  11. #10299

    Baby Mac Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by SsStuntCock  [View Original Post]
    I see Get9 advertising her in LA starting tomorrow with a -80 reduced base rate, so she's now 300. Same upcharges tho.
    CGLA has her listed at 380 +100. Either way, I'd verify rates carefully with booker before committing.

  12. #10298

    Baby Mac

    Quote Originally Posted by Stonkz  [View Original Post]
    Do you know what happen to her? I thought she just went on break. Did she leave already? I was planning on seeing her again too lmao.
    I see Get9 advertising her in LA starting tomorrow with a -80 reduced base rate, so she's now 300. Same upcharges tho.

  13. #10297

    What the Diddy!

    Quote Originally Posted by SsStuntCock  [View Original Post]
    Not you. My point is some dudes read "no CIP" not as a dealbreaker, but as a dare.

    Girl: "Cum outside".

    Dirtbag: "Hold my beer".
    I call these guys The Diddlers. Lmao.

  14. #10296
    Quote Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty  [View Original Post]
    As the bane of upcharge MILFs, I am sorry to say Sunny is not Thicc or Young. I think she has a tight athletic body like she works out, and she has a firm bigger ass than typical Kgirl. Many OGs like her looks and service. I heard someone said she dropped the upcharge for him cause she liked him or something, but upcharge is such a turn-off to me that I don't even want to negotiate. Only TYA Milan could upcharge me cause I could still be rock hard in her with cover.
    Okay, thanks for the tip! When I recoup funds, Milan is definitely my next up. BTW, I agree with everything why'all said about Ria J, I keep thinking about it and didn't know I wanted another Jgirl until now. Kinda looked like a friend / coworker, so it made the session even hotter imo. Also, I asked Ria J how long is she staying in LA, and she said around a month. She said she might be going to NY for her next stop, so go see her while you can.

  15. #10295

    Baby Twenty

    But they haven't given up the Baby name yet cause Zia's also Baby Twenty with get9 irl. It cracks me up whenever a booker uses the HYA label. How else are they going to attract my attention without Baby label or GPA girls?

    Quote Originally Posted by BettingMan2000  [View Original Post]
    Intrigued by this HYA22 showing up on CGLA LOL. We just giving up on the overused Baby name at this point LOL.

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