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  1. #3107

    Athena experience

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingD  [View Original Post]
    New girl Athena just dropped tomorrow. She looks really nice too, but pics seems fake.

    If anyone Toftt before I do, please report back.
    Hey there I was in town for work and checked her out a few nights ago. Granted I'm fairly new to the hobby but here's a quick and dirty impression list.

    Pros:

    Young- skinny but still has some curves, cute shaved kitty. Pretty face (could use an orthodontist).

    Photos are the usual P.S. Job but I found her quite attractive anyway. The bikini one is egregious though.

    Decent English.

    Affectionate. Had a nice chat towards the end while cuddling on the bed, she did some cute stuff with her hands, true GFE.

    Forgot to take my BBFS fee. Probably just cause she's new but hey I'll count it.

    Cons:

    Pretty meh shower experience, and she sent me in alone for the cleanup.

    BBFS was bad, I'm not a huge BB person in general but this was like she was just opening her mouth and pushing onto jr. No suction or tongue action whatsoever.

    Let me do a little DATY but no fingering, and very quickly asked to move to inserton bc she was "too sensitive".

    Pretty bad on faking pleasure during the act, I know it's part of their job but she could use some coaching LOL.

    Damage was 3. 2 benjamins for hr 1 pop (as above, bb wound up being gratis but handler said +50). Would maybe consider coming back for a hhr.

  2. #3106
    Quote Originally Posted by Mrworldwide89  [View Original Post]
    Scratch that..she isn't feeling well and she leaving earlier than 11/21.
    Yes, plans change. Both Mali and Baby Moon are off. It's why I summed up the solution in a PSA:

    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    Always have a backup plan.
    I listed some girls Boner recommended for OC (Baby Ziana, Baby Milan, Ariana, Chanel2, Baby Miu, J Saki, Baby Peach, Nadia). Plus Minami J. But it's also possible to just buy yourself something nice and keep the rest. I'll have a nice meal, see a movie, go somewhere I like, and I'll still have hundreds left over. I have no FOMO, and it's better that way.

    I here to post a photo model I finally found for Chanel2. It is a Korean gravure model. Of course, model photos have PS to make her ass look unblemished and perfect. Chanel2 actually has a wider ass and skinnier waist than the model, but nothing is going to be perfect. I will make sure to list her in next year's retrospective biggest asses in town guide, along with Daisy L who is East Coast. This years guide ass here:
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7344128 7/16 OC Biggest Asses in Town

    Peach can also go on the greatest ass guide, it has an amazing shape and feel. Peach is high looks and high service, but limited schedule whether Friday thru Sunday or Saturday thru Monday. She is 21 Points in Value Rating (10 Points is average kgirl). More Value Ratings:

    Value Rankings
    Mali 32 Points
    Purple K aka Tiara 29 Points
    FA Tomi 28 Points
    Allie aka Mina 28 Points
    Jenny K 28 Points
    Baby Arin 27 Points
    FA Isabella 26 Points
    CAKD Minami J 23 Points
    Lizza 23 Points
    Peach 21 Points
    ..

    Jenny K is Good Value Theorem
    I rate Jenny K at 28 points Value Rating, with the average kgirl being 10. It is a linear scale with cost being baked in, meaning Jenny K priced at 280 is as good as the average kgirl priced at 100. She is 2.8x as good as the average kgirl when considering bb hr pricing. Mali is 32 points.
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7444167 Jenny K and others

    I will give calculation examples here. Jenny K is B looks and A+ service, for 7.3 Total Score at 350 hr bb. Mali is A looks (B face S body) and S+ service, for a 9.3 Total Score at 360 hr bb. When using hr rates, I multiply by 1.25x to account for the extra hh you gain versus just booking only hh. I use the extra hh for a break, chat, vibing, massage, slow shower, so it is nice but only worth 25% more to me. So the calculations are:
    7.3 / 350 * 1.25 * 1000 = 26 Value Points, Jenny K
    9.3 / 360 * 1.25 * 1000 = 32 Value Points, Mali

    Total Score is simply Looks + Service, with S = 5, A = 4, B = 3, C = 2, D = 1. The average kgirl is Total Score 3.0 and represents about how much I would pay for that score (I would not see E-Tier for free and F-Tier owes me money). The highest rated girl is MH Cherry at 10.5 Total Score. Mali and Lizza are not far behind at 9.3 Total Score. Since Mali is 360 and Lizza was 500, the result is 32 Points for Mali and 23 Points for Lizza. Peach is 480 for hr bb, so 21 Points. Half of kgirls are 10 Points and below.

    Someone recently got shipwrecked with a girl who was plain, not much skill or attitude. He left without getting much looks or service, didn't even want to pay bb upcharge as he normally does. It was not the worst, just not what he is looking for. So let's say D Looks D Service. That is a 2.0 Total Score at 340 hr GFE. Since it is GFE only, we multiply by .70 in order to make it equivalent to bb scale. The dud calculates as:
    2.0 / 340 * 1.25 * .70 * 1000 = 5 Value Rating, for a kgirl borderline dud

    She was soon gone, probably due to booker feedback. There were other duds where if you named them, their name would simply change. So..

    Value Rating Scale
    20+ points: priority repeat
    15-19 points: periodic repeat (high but not top priority, or premium girls)
    11-14 points: one and done but satisfied due to "new girl" bonus
    8-10: average kgirl (D-C or C-D girl)
    0-7: Shipwreck (dud)

    On my scale, 5 kgirl borderline duds are worth 1 Jenny K. A true dud (E-E) is worthless (0 Points), an F-F girl is actually negative (she should pay me). Sometimes I'm in the mood to toftt and just see a new girl. So I'm more tolerant of 8-10 Point girls (borderline C / D). But when I'm not in that mood or the girl is 7 or below Points (D-Tier), it's a shipwreck. Many of the C / D girls I saw were bb-special, which kept them right around the 8-10 Point range. It's like when your coworkers pick a place to eat and you would never pick it yourself, but you're okay eating there because it meets the bare minimum. Bare minimum is 8 points. Below that is regret.

    Of course, I'm not usually in this mood. Usually, I aim for 15 Points or higher (the top 25% of kgirls). And I manage to actually average that by using Intel or repeating ATFs. The top 25% of kgirls average 16 Points. The remaining 75% average 8 Points (half the Value of the top 25%!). This is exactly how I've always thought of it and why I won't aim any lower than B-Tier. There is an art to that, because an honest reviewer might say a girl is B-Tier HYA but she's C-Tier to me. He wasn't wrong and I can see her appeal, it's just up to taste. So people who must have B-Tier need to aim A-Tier, and so on.

    The mid girls that were above average (the next 25% after the top 25%) are risky to recommend, even though I liked them a little for variety. I noticed that when I made multiple rosters describing them as mid, that people would see them anyways and be unhappy that they were mid. So I tried to make it much clearer that they were at the bottom of the list of girls I liked. They are only safe recs for a guy looking for a specific appeal (ex: tall meaty girl). Then they'll be happy.

    5 Value Points is unusually bad, I wouldn't expect it often. But that is why I use the Patient Turtle strategy. It's harder than it sounds because it requires you to be immune to FOMO and willing to stop seeing girls until a better option shows up later.

    Dead Silence Dilemma
    10 Points is an average kgirl. When I blind toftt without intel, I average 8 points. I actually should average 10 points, but I do worse because when I toftt, I am excluding every HYA I already have intel on! This is known as the Dead Silence Dilemma. Once you know most of the HYA, your toftt success drops on "girls you don't know". Unknown girls are where all the rebrands are clustered too. It becomes a death spiral..

    Guys who toftt a lot use the Rabbit strategy and rush in on day one, but when they run into duds they "take a nap". Whereas I use the patient Turtle strategy, I am in no rush to see new girls. I waited more than one year to see Mali with the attitude of "If she never rotates OC I'm okay with missing out". Lack of FOMO has saved me from shipwreck. But I feel sorry for the Rabbits who tell me about great girls, and try to give them hints every time I can.

    This illustrates the point I've always made that while yes premium girls are expensive, it's the duds who have neither looks nor service that are overpriced. They outnumber premium girls, and giving feedback to the booker is one option. I truly do feel an S-Tier girl is worth about 5 D-Tier girls in value. Each guy will have his own ratio or "value curve" for this.

    Attached are two model photos for Chanel2, about 80% match for body.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails DJAWA PIA.jpg‎   DJAWA PIA2.jpg‎  

  3. #3105
    Scratch that she messaged me on KKT last night saying she isn't feeling well and she leaving earlier than 11/21.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrworldwide89  [View Original Post]
    She's booked through the whole week too.

  4. #3104

    Athena NEW

    New girl Athena just dropped tomorrow. She looks really nice too, but pics seems fake.

    If anyone Toftt before I do, please report back.

  5. #3103
    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbyyo  [View Original Post]
    I saw her, she's a 8/10, not worth the premium imo, Joyce-T her roommate anyone saw her? I saw her walking by and seemed hot anyone got feedback?
    What made her not worth the upcharge if you don't mind me asking?

    Also how was her face? I'm also a face first kind of guy.

  6. #3102
    Always have a backup plan. I used to make a list of 4-8 girls I wanted to see because my first few choices often weren't available. Here are some OC ideas from Boner:
    Quote Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty  [View Original Post]
    OC: The Boner is wet
    Baby Monica / Baby Ziana GFE: TYA, cute face, thicc booty.
    Baby Milan: BB extra, TYA, P.S. Real pics, thicc booty and big tits.
    Ariana: BBFSCIP included, very P.S. Pics, still looks young and cute spinner.
    Chanel 2: BB extra, PHYA, P.S. Real pics, BBL, white skin, thicc in the right places.
    Baby Miyu GFE: CYA, lean slim spinner body with small A / B tits and small face.
    J Saki: BB extra, CYA.
    Baby Peach: BB extra, TYA, P.S. Real pics, BBL, MMs.
    Nadia: BB extra, nice boops, CYA.
    Baby Moon: BB extra, CYA, cute and tall.
    Also, Minami J with CAKD:
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7443430 Minami J

    If you are a spinner lover and willing to leave OC, Jenny K is in LA with KDC. Tiana is in SD with CAKD SD.
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7445206 Jenny K in LA
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7437409 Tiana in SD

  7. #3101

    Maya at Khaleesi1999

    She is the youngest at this agency. Looks to be in early 20's. Very cute, and all natural. Pictures are real and accurate. Great attitude and service all around. I had an awesome time and can recommend with confidence!

  8. #3100
    She's booked through the whole week too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bbaka10  [View Original Post]
    Any idea where she's going? Hopefully she comes back to LA.

  9. #3099
    Quote Originally Posted by HornyToad75  [View Original Post]
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7442175

    I'm curious about her current cup size. Most recent review said she has C cup. Seemed like she was A cup back in May. Did she get enhancement?
    Saw her recently. She has As or very small Bs.

    If anyone was wondering what she looks like, her face has a fairly close resemblance to Lucy Mochi.

  10. #3098
    Quote Originally Posted by HornyToad75  [View Original Post]
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7442175

    I'm curious about her current cup size. Most recent review said she has C cup. Seemed like she was A cup back in May. Did she get enhancement?
    Saw her yesterday. She has A cups. Rest of review is accurate.

  11. #3097

    Tried?

    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    There are so many girls in OC these days, and not enough maps to sail the seas. Above are OC girls that Boner liked who are still available now. Boner also mentioned girls like Jenny K, Erica, Baby Sugar, but they are not working.

    I will just point out that two of them, CAKD Mali and Get9 Ariana, are BB special. That makes them good value for bb guys. I do believe one way to keep prices in check are to point out the better girls who are priced well. Ariana's rate is now 350 for 1 hr, bb inclusive:
    https://get9irl.com/Ariana Ariana

    Value Rankings
    MH Cherry 31 Points
    Mali 31 Points
    Kiko 31 Points
    Purple K 29 Points
    Allie 28 Points
    Jenny K 28 Points
    Baby Arin 27 Points
    Isabella 26 Points
    Minami J 23 Points
    Lizza 23 Points
    ..
    Sammy 18 Points
    Laurent 15 Points
    Etc..

    Above is just a sample of some ATF's I've scored "by value". Girls who score high give you more looks+service for less money. They are budget friendly and more repeatable than premium girls. I do like premium girls (especially the first time), but I consider them an occasional luxury instead. Haven is an interesting example. At bb-inclusive, she was 29 points same as Purple K. But with full upchage, her value dropped to 18.

    It is no surprise that girls with free or discounted bb dominate the list. Mali, Allie, Jenny K being free bb. Purple K was 30 bb and lower base rate. Girls like Lizza I considered my #1 kgirl overall "at any cost", but she was 150 bb. So she's not going to be as repeatable as a high looks high service HYA like Mali who is free bb. Even though I liked Lizza a bit more than Mali, I didn't like her 140 more.

    Recently I've improved the formalas by factoring for GFE only, hr rates, and more. The original value rating guide considered the hh bb rates rather than hr rates. That is better for guys who prefer hh:
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7423340 Value Rating Guide

    To make a fair comparison between hr and hh scoring, I calculate the hr bb rating and add a 25% bonus for the 100% extra time I get (mostly spent vibing, chatting, or massage during break). Also, to compare fairly with GFE only girls, I subtract 25% off of GFE-only girls.

    Isabella is GFE only, so I subtract 25% off her raw score of 34. If I were a GFE only guy, she'd be the best instead. That too makes perfect sense to me. With Lizza, I was often tempted to try cfs with her in order to "repeat her more often" instead. Her raw score for GFE only is 32. And since I was on the fence about that, it does suggest a 25% adjustment is not far off (maybe 30% is better).

    Premium girls like Baby Rose are hot AF and good service to me, but her being double the price of Nali naturally makes it harder to repeat her. Her score was 16. 15-20 are typical scores for premium kgirls, it's not bad just harder to repeat. But if I consider the "first time" novelty bonus or some special connection (that eventually wears off), it makes more sense to see them a 2nd or 3rd time. Whereas Jenny K I could see all year round, every time she's back.

    Do keep in mind that when I blind toftt without intel, I average 8 points. I actually should average 10 points (the average kgirl), but I don't because when I toftt, I am excluding every HYA I already have intel on! This is known as the Dead Silence Dilemma. Once you know most of the HYA, your toftt success drops on "girls you don't know". Unknown girls are where all the rebrands are clustered too. It becomes a death spiral..

    The "Haven drop off" in value is huge when a girl has bb upcharge. A girl I considered #1 priority suddenly drops to 5th or 10th place with all the other options I have. It is why the handful of 0-30 bb HYA were so wildly popular. They sometimes get booked twice as hard, or extend their tour repeatedly. The catch is, some girls are reluctant to go this route since discount bb actually lowers their % net cut (less goes to girl, more goes to shop). They would have kept the full upcharge tip, but free bb helps the agency more than it helps them. Some agencies solve this by giving them a small bonus cut of 20-40 to correct that, on the assumption the girl honors her menu normally. There is no simple solution though. Girls have that perception even if there is a clear upside to lower rates.
    Have you tried f special: Sadie or Olivia?

  12. #3096
    Quote Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty  [View Original Post]
    OC: The Boning Must Go Far
    Mali: 360/ hr included CIP, PHYA, the gold standard for young girls.
    Ariana: 320/ hr + 50/ cip, still looks young and cute spinner.
    Chanel 2: 600/ hr + 200/ cip, PHYA, P.S. Real pics, BBL, white skin, thicc in the right places.
    J Saki 360/ hr + 100/ cip, CYA.
    Baby Peach: 380/ hr + 100/ cip, TYA, P.S. Real pics, BBL, MMs.
    Nadia Nice boops.
    There are so many girls in OC these days, and not enough maps to sail the seas. Above are OC girls that Boner liked who are still available now. Boner also mentioned girls like Jenny K, Erica, Baby Sugar, but they are not working.

    I will just point out that two of them, CAKD Mali and Get9 Ariana, are BB special. That makes them good value for bb guys. I do believe one way to keep prices in check are to point out the better girls who are priced well. Ariana's rate is now 350 for 1 hr, bb inclusive:
    https://get9irl.com/Ariana Ariana

    Value Rankings
    Mali 32 Points
    Purple K aka Tiara 29 Points
    FA Tomi 28 Points
    Allie aka Mina 28 Points
    Jenny K 28 Points
    Baby Arin 27 Points
    FA Isabella 26 Points
    CAKD Minami J 23 Points
    Lizza 23 Points
    ..
    FA Sammy 18 Points
    Laurent 15 Points
    Etc..

    Above is just a sample of some ATF's I've scored "by value". Girls who score high give you more looks+service for less money. They are budget friendly and more repeatable than premium girls. I do like premium girls (especially the first time), but I consider them an occasional luxury instead. Haven is an interesting example. At bb-inclusive, she was 29 points same as Purple K. But with full upchage, her value dropped to 18.

    It is no surprise that girls with free or discounted bb dominate the list. Mali, Allie, Jenny K being free bb. Purple K was 30 bb and lower base rate (I think this was a rate drop at the end of her tour). Girls like Lizza I considered my #1 kgirl overall "at any cost", but she was 150 bb. So she's not going to be as repeatable as a high looks high service HYA like Mali who is free bb. Even though I liked Lizza a bit more than Mali, I couldn't repeat her as often at 140 more.

    Recently I've improved the formalas by factoring for GFE only, hr rates, and more. The original value rating guide considered the hh bb rates rather than hr rates. That is better for guys who prefer hh:
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7423340 Value Rating Guide

    To make a fair comparison between hr and hh scoring, I calculate the hr bb rating and add a 25% bonus for the 100% extra time I get (mostly spent vibing, chatting, or massage during break). Also, to compare fairly with GFE only girls, I subtract 25% off of GFE-only girls. Note that FA girls have significantly better hh rates than other korgs, so girls like FA Tomi will rank slightly better when graded by their hh rate.

    Isabella is GFE only, so I subtract 25% off her raw score of 34. If I were a GFE only guy, she'd be the best instead. That too makes perfect sense to me. With Lizza, I was often tempted to try cfs with her in order to "repeat her more often" instead. Her raw score for GFE only is 32. And since I was on the fence about that, it does suggest a 25% adjustment is not far off (maybe 30% is better).

    Premium girls like Baby Rose are hot AF and good service to me, but her being double the price of Nali naturally makes it harder to repeat her. Her score was 16. 15-20 are typical scores for premium kgirls, it's not bad just harder to repeat. But if I consider the "first time" novelty bonus or some special connection (that eventually wears off), it makes more sense to see them a 2nd or 3rd time. Whereas Jenny K I could see all year round, every time she's back.

    Do keep in mind that when I blind toftt without intel, I average 8 points. I actually should average 10 points (the average kgirl), but I don't because when I toftt, I am excluding every HYA I already have intel on! This is known as the Dead Silence Dilemma. Once you know most of the HYA, your toftt success drops on "girls you don't know". Unknown girls are where all the rebrands are clustered too. It becomes a death spiral..

    The "Haven drop off" in value is huge when a girl has bb upcharge. A girl I considered #1 priority suddenly drops to 5th or 10th place with all the other options I have. Same way Purple K skyrocketed to #2 when she dropped to 30 bb. It is why the handful of 0-30 bb HYA were so wildly popular. They sometimes get booked twice as hard, or extend their tour repeatedly.

    The catch is, some girls are reluctant to go this route since discount bb actually lowers their % net cut (less goes to girl, more goes to shop). They would have kept the full upcharge tip, but free bb helps the agency more than it helps them. Some agencies solve this by giving them a small bonus cut of 20-40 to correct that, on the assumption the girl honors her menu normally. Both the shop and girl make more money in the end. There is no simple solution though, because this requires a girl who can handle the added volume. This is why bb special HYA tend to be HYA service queens or otherwise experienced and capable of high volume.

  13. #3095
    Quote Originally Posted by PewpHead  [View Original Post]
    You're paying for the body, not exceptional service or her face. Those are still pretty good, but for comparison, when I saw Love Q, Love Q's face was gorgeous, young, and her service & attitude were 10/10, plus fluent English & she's a baddie. Love Q made me feel like WORTH IT. Mila's stand out feature is having a great body, which will be worth it or not depending on your tastes.
    I can see why you mentioned Love Q, and I agree with your take regarding service and attitude. Another dude mentioned Lalisa from BP which I think is valid too, tho Mila is more petite and less voluptuous. And to the uninitiated, those are Mila's real pics except she has bangs now and I believe her hair is darker. Although she's not my preferred spinner body type, Mila's could be considered spinner-adjacent; no complaints here. Her silhouette and overall fitness level are accurately reflected in her ad pics. Her low-mileage snatch and kegels were the cherry on top.

  14. #3094
    Quote Originally Posted by A1287  [View Original Post]
    Mali's last day is 11/21 and she is booked out this weekend, get in while you can literally and figuratively.
    Any idea where she's going? Hopefully she comes back to LA.

  15. #3093
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    Mali's last day is 11/21 and she is booked out this weekend, get in while you can literally and figuratively.

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