Non Pro's

**Morgan Creamin** · 10-24-25 13:28

Originally Posted by Runner2448 [View Original Post]

Exactly that. That girl I was talking to was in the fence about sex, tried the help me platonic relationship thing but with some convincing and after talking on video she was a bit more comfortable to do it the whole thing (helps that I don't look bad and not a creep). I have no doubt that she will try to milk the m&g money as much as possible now.

I also think there's a component here that no one has mentioned yet and that is us getting intel on the girl. If you have a SB that will not meet without a paid meet then you know that she is only interested in the money and will very likely be doing the bare minimum she can to get as much out of you as possible. She's going to have a shitty, all-business attitude in most cases and looks at you as nothing more than an ATM and will treat you accordingly.

However, one that will meet for a vibe check without payment very likely wants more than just the money and this will lead to better experiences. I am under no illusions that the money isn't a requirement but I've had some extraordinary experiences with SBs who have convinced themselves that they aren't engaging in prostitution because they like me or think there's a 'connection. ' Recently had an encounter that was some of the best sex of my life with one like this. We spent several hours fucking and she was out the door when I called her back to give her the greenbacks.

There is also the fact that there are women that will respect you for holding your ground and saying no. I've definitely had this experience in the past. A polite but firm refusal to pay for a m&g can sometimes make her more interested. No woman has any respect for a simp.

Either way, the ones who refuse to meet without payment for a meet are very likely to be the worst experience so what is the point of meeting them? No matter what you're going to be wasting your time and money even if there is sex to be had it's going to be less than what you can get elsewhere for less.

Just say no.

**Member #7088** · 10-24-25 12:45

Originally Posted by MarioBrother [View Original Post]

Please post photos / screenshots your top girls from Seeking.

Mario is a goddamned hero. Taking all this shade, being cool about it, and basically saying "Yep, fine, whatever. Let's just post pics and trade intel."

Outstanding.

You already know this, but not for nothing: It's your money and it's your dick. You do you. Literally nothing else matters.

**3Putt** · 10-24-25 11:24

Originally Posted by MarioBrother [View Original Post]

Please post photos / screenshots your top girls from Seeking..

You first.

**Runner2448** · 10-24-25 00:24

Originally Posted by MorganCreamin [View Original Post]

Or how stupid a guy is. The vast majority of reports I've read on this and other forums is that paid m&g rarely turns into anything more except more demands for money. She gets free dinner / drinks and he pays her just to show up. You don't put a down payment on something unless there's a guarantee you're going to receive what you've contracted for. You going to give money to a car dealership if they are under no obligation to deliver a car to you?

It's free money for her, and proof that he's not very smart and can be taken advantage of.

Exactly that. That girl I was talking to was in the fence about sex, tried the help me platonic relationship thing but with some convincing and after talking on video she was a bit more comfortable to do it the whole thing (helps that I don't look bad and not a creep). I have no doubt that she will try to milk the m&g money as much as possible now.

**Jjzih** · 10-23-25 21:21

Originally Posted by MarioBrother [View Original Post]

Girls probably get 10 to 20 offers of a day, so from their perspective, whoever is willing to give them some compensation for m&g gets priority. I think in their eyes it shows how serious a guy is. I personally had great luck with paid m&g's.

I'm sure paid m&g can work out, and I'm glad you've had good experiences with it. I don't think it makes sense though. For a m&g both people are setting aside a couple hours to find out more about each other. I can understand paying for transportation, but I don't think those hours are more valuable to the SB than the SD.

You're right, girls probably do get 10 to 20 offers per day. Similarly, there are plenty of women for the men to choose from, but in order to make anything happen, two people have to take a couple hours to get to know each other.

**Morgan Creamin** · 10-23-25 19:54

Originally Posted by MarioBrother [View Original Post]

Girls probably get 10 to 20 offers of a day, so from their perspective, whoever is willing to give them some compensation for m&g gets priority. I think in their eyes it shows how serious a guy is. I personally had great luck with paid m&g's.

Or how stupid a guy is. The vast majority of reports I've read on this and other forums is that paid m&g rarely turns into anything more except more demands for money. She gets free dinner / drinks and he pays her just to show up. You don't put a down payment on something unless there's a guarantee you're going to receive what you've contracted for. You going to give money to a car dealership if they are under no obligation to deliver a car to you?

It's free money for her, and proof that he's not very smart and can be taken advantage of.

**Runner2448** · 10-23-25 17:53

Originally Posted by MarioBrother [View Original Post]

Girls probably get 10 to 20 offers of a day, so from their perspective, whoever is willing to give them some compensation for m&g gets priority. I think in their eyes it shows how serious a guy is. I personally had great luck with paid m&g's.

Nah bro. I am not paying for a gal to go chow down some food. I am not that needy. No girl is going to turn that down, but no girl on that site is worth paid m&g.

**PriceIsRight39** · 10-23-25 16:51

Originally Posted by MorganCreamin [View Original Post]

This is the only response that should ever be given to paid m&g. Thank you, good sir, for maintaining the standard.

The will to have a dry dick in the delation of some of these average women's egos is necessary in todays market.

**MarioBrother** · 10-23-25 16:31

Originally Posted by LuvMeAbbw [View Original Post]

Can you guys post screenshots / pics from their profiles?

It really helps us guys decide if we want a membership.

Plus, we can help identify them if they are pros.

This is a great idea, I often get confused when we only post links to their seeking profiles.

**Morgan Creamin** · 10-23-25 16:27

Originally Posted by Runner2448 [View Original Post]

Told her to go kick rocks.

This is the only response that should ever be given to paid m&g. Thank you, good sir, for maintaining the standard.

**MarioBrother** · 10-23-25 15:16

Originally Posted by Runner2448 [View Original Post]

I was talking to this girl and agreed at 400, asked if we could meet publicly first. We talked about it previously that we could grab a coffee or a bite to make sure there was some vibe but it wasn't paid. Few days talking all horny and she was down. I was planning to meet with her and she was like: oh! Meet and greet is paid and I was like we agreed it wasn't. She said she got offers just for meet and greet. Told her to go kick rocks.

Girls probably get 10 to 20 offers of a day, so from their perspective, whoever is willing to give them some compensation for m&g gets priority. I think in their eyes it shows how serious a guy is. I personally had great luck with paid m&g's.

**LuvMeAbbw** · 10-23-25 13:38

Can you guys post screenshots / pics from their profiles?

It really helps us guys decide if we want a membership.

Plus, we can help identify them if they are pros.

**FarFarAway** · 10-23-25 11:58

Originally Posted by MorganCreamin [View Original Post]

Yeah, that's the real thing is that somehow this plastic, ultra-fake look has somehow come to be seen as top tier by dudes who are so insecure they don't have the stones to say that it's actually unattractive. It's a stupid game that somehow keeps keeps getting played. I can't imagine thinking the "all natural" (LOL) chick that started this exchange is attractive in any way because she is anything but natural. I get that we all have our preferences but everything about her is repulsive especially my guess as to what her attitude is like. There's no way you can tell me she's as attractive to the majority of men as an actually natural and beautiful woman. Give me one of those every time.

I am a veteran SD but haven't ever sugared up there. But I like to read your thread. I clicked on the link to view the profile of 'plastic lady. ' She then favorited me. I'd guess despite her wonderful natural looks, she is having a hard time getting SDs, especially at the rates you guys mentioned.

I have a relative who lives in your area who gets those lip injections, and looks like a duck when she does. She's no SB, either. I just don't get it. In their minds, they look great.

**Runner2448** · 10-23-25 11:00

I was talking to this girl and agreed at 400, asked if we could meet publicly first. We talked about it previously that we could grab a coffee or a bite to make sure there was some vibe but it wasn't paid. Few days talking all horny and she was down. I was planning to meet with her and she was like: oh! Meet and greet is paid and I was like we agreed it wasn't. She said she got offers just for meet and greet. Told her to go kick rocks.