Thai independents

[Nyxtc]

Greetings fellow mongers. I was a regular customer of Helen (Thai). I know that Helen went back home earlier this month. Does anyone have info on who, if anybody, replaced her?

[PSmith0380]

A couple years ago, there used to be an amazing provider named Annie, around the Tysons / Fairfax area. She was my regular go-to. Lost touch, not sure if she's still around? She advertised a bit but not often. If anyone knows if she's still around and has her contact info, DM me.

[BurtMacklin22]

Its very strange to see absolutely no reports on any newer providers at all. There are so many now Layla, Jesse, the white girl etc etc any one trying out some new talent?

By "white girl" are you referring to this one?:

https://nova.bedpage.com/Therapeutic.../13265447.html

Because I'm also very curious if anyone has seen her. Nothing comes up other than another RR ad and no hits on reverse image.

[JmSuttr]

Should return in about 4-6 weeks. Her regulars probably know, but she doesn't advertise often so just posting as an FYI.

[Samizza]

Not Millin, she was Zina before.

My favorite ATF is back, I have a feeling long timers already know. She was the original Milin reach out for info if you need, don't want to slam her apartment.

[Samizza]

I have a feeling that Krystal is fake, I also got bait and switched 6 minths ago.

Thought I was going to see Krystal. Did the deed but checked out a review on The othER site and kinda think I got the roommate. In the past I've been directed to the roommate when my original choice wasn't available (Gigi / Selena) but it was clearly communicated. Anyone else visit Krystal and can confirm she's not the gym rat in the pics, but a smaller, less enthusiastic lady with a full belly birds-nest tattoo?

https://tryst.link/escort/krystal9

[BoMcC]

Thought I was going to see Krystal. Did the deed but checked out a review on The othER site and kinda think I got the roommate. In the past I've been directed to the roommate when my original choice wasn't available (Gigi / Selena) but it was clearly communicated. Anyone else visit Krystal and can confirm she's not the gym rat in the pics, but a smaller, less enthusiastic lady with a full belly birds-nest tattoo?

https://tryst.link/escort/krystal9

[Samizza]

My favorite ATF is back, I have a feeling long timers already know. She was the original Milin reach out for info if you need, don't want to slam her apartment.

[Les Tosterone]

Met up with Dara in a familiar complex in Tysons. She is the lady in the pics. I'd guess 35 years old, slightly trending towards MILF. Face is more girlish in the ads, but in person she is a stunning Thai woman. Same radiant smile. English is ok. Solo shower, then BBJ preview. Multiple positions, finished with CIM. Light massage at end. Not quite GFE due to no LFK. Delightful and engaging in conversation. I picked her brain regarding a future trip to Thailand. Sweet woman. Perhaps not an immediate repeat due to my preference to sample, but recommend. Treat her well.

[JmSuttr]

Having seen Vandara for a number of years (though not recently), here are some thoughts, gleaned from personal experience, for getting the most value from a session with her:

1. There is only one reason to see Vandara, the quality of her massage.

2. She is a massage-centric therapist. HJ is offered, sometimes the girls come out, but she will charge what she can get away with for those extras.

3. She will never "warm up" to a client, full stop. The menu won't expand with repeat visits, and there is no elevated or special status to be achieved. If no one has coined the phrase "Golden Client Syndrome," you read it here first! GCS ain't happening with this masseuse, fuhgeddaboudit!

4. Keeping the above points and limits firmly in mind, Vandara generally responds well to a transactional approach (suggestions below).

Suggestions:

- IMO, the best Vandara value proposition is a 90 min massage + HJ (no topless or girls exposed). Why? Because she periodically advertises discounts for 90 min sessions and, even when not listed in her ad, she will often offer a discount (for 90 minutes, not 60) if asked, esp if business is slow. If topless is a must for you, I would respectfully submit that you should reconsider seeing Vandara. Anything more than standard HE opens the door to inflated expectations (on both sides) and will likely reduce the perceived value for the $ paid.

- The best transactional approach requires that you want the HE less than she wants your money. I remind her that there are several Thai masseuses with whom a standard clothed HJ is included in their base price (tip appreciated but not required). For an excellent 90 min massage (no time shorting) + HJ my standard offer is a $40 tip. If she balks at that, I can either say "OK, massage only" or just cancel the session. Since she's already allocated that time for me, and since a HE basically costs her nothing, the transactional leverage is in my favor.

- I've also found it helpful to incentivize her by saying that I'm happy to tip extra for an extra nice session. I don't set any expectations and I don't commit to a tip amount. It's entirely open-ended and up to her. If catching her on a good day, the extra nice session might consist of girls out and / or a nice extended finish. On the other side of that coin, I don't hesitate to leave LESS tip if the session isn't the full 90 minutes or if the HJ isn't up to snuff. When that happens, I clearly explain why, offer the observation that she's not in her best form, and that I hope next time will be better.

- FWIW, whether I've tipped more or less has had zero effect on future appointments. IME, Vandara approaches each session as a new transaction, with little or no carryover from prior visits. Of course, that assumes nothing extreme happened on a previous visit. But my main point is that, in general, the transactional approach works pretty much the same every time.

Just my two-cents' worth, hope it's helpful for some.

[JmSuttr]

No firm return date, but gone for at least a month, probably more. Any ads on Bedpage or RubRankings will run until they expire, but she's already stopped taking appointments and left the area.

IMO, she was pretty burned out after a number of negative client encounters. Hopefully some time away will help refresh things.

[Almel89]

Hello,

I've been out of the game for a while and I've been looking to get back in. Though preferably, I'm looking for any thais that are preferably without tats. Bonus points if they're well endowed in the chest area and if they rim too.

[Samizza]

Its very strange to see absolutely no reports on any newer providers at all. There are so many now Layla, Jesse, the white girl etc etc any one trying out some new talent?

[BoatMan3]

She gives an excellent massage but I quit going to see her because she kept raising the price on me for a HJ with her teddies out. Just recently texted her and asked her what her tip expectation is going forward on that and she wants to act like she didn't know what I was talking about. I'm done with her for good. I don't have times to play games with her.

I saw Vandara three times over a period of about 6 months in the last year. Each time I hoped the experience would be better. She does give an excellent massage and if that all your after she is a good choice. However, I found her aloof, mechanical, and could never get her to allow touching. Her L1 was meh. I wasted enough time and money with her. Too bad because she was close to where I work.

[Les Tosterone]

https://nova.bedpage.com/Escorts/tysons/13275542.html

They switch out nice asian or thai pics every few weeks but with no names and the ad text remains unchanged. No reviews. Looks like bait and switch.