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  1. #15864
    Quote Originally Posted by Noleman2024  [View Original Post]
    When they do 4 hand and FS do the girls typically go down on each other? Appreciate any insights from the experienced members.
    I've been asking around after seeing certain girls at the Big 6 were open to g / g interaction. I've gone around this city, Tucson, and Los Angeles. Most are just not into any of it. A few have said they'd suck on another's nipples but nothing more.

    You also have to watch out in case you find a girl that will say yes to anything to try to get you to pay more money. Before Fancy Foot closed, I asked one girl and she said she doesn't do that. I saw a second girl another time and she said yes. I asked with who and she said the name of the previous girl I asked not knowing what I already knew. Knowing that she was a bait and switch killed my mood.

    The closest lead I found was a cuddler once mentioned she could get her friend to join us on a 2 girl cuddle, but I think it was going to cost more than if I find it at an AMP, so the hunt continues.

  2. #15863

    Any East Valley L1 with Korean or other providers?

    Quote Originally Posted by BustedNut  [View Original Post]
    Su Massage is a Korean place that I've frequented. House fee is $80 for 45 minutes and a tip of $160 gets you full service. However, the talent is always very good looking, attentive, and they use their table shower.
    Any East Valley L1 only places with Korean, Thai, Japanese, Vietnamese or Filipina providers? Or is it just luck of the draw with mainly Chinese (not that there's anything wrong with that, just a little variety would be nice) providers.

  3. #15862
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    Posts: 41

    Good point on upscaling

    Quote Originally Posted by WanderFun  [View Original Post]
    I moved to Phoenix 3 years ago from the SF area and before that LA. I had hundreds of experience over time and almost no upsells. But since I moved here, almost every provider wants to upsell. It seems to be a Phoenix area thing. In the beginning the big 6 gave me hope there was still sanity in the area, but I still see too many providers asking for more. Too me that is one of the biggest turnoffs. My first experience was a little AMP in Chandler. After the massage was done, she asked me what I want and motioned to her hand or mouth. I said her hand was ok and she quoted $200. I said way to much and offered $60, she countered with $150 (for L1), so after minutes of frustration negotiating we agreed on $80. At that point I just wanted to get it done. She went and got her supplies and came back I reached out to touch her breasts and she said, "touch breasts another $40, and lift the top another $40). Now we're back to $160 for L1. I was so mad at that point I just said finish and soon after I left. I NEVER went back to that AMP again. Now, after some time I know which AMP's don't upsell and which do. I watch these boards carefully and if they are an upselling AMP I just don't go.

    Desert Spa looks like a clean new AMP, but they are upselling constantly (Both Kiki and Linda). There are too many AMP's in the area to get into a war with a provider over services. Just be firm and tell her that's the rate and that's it. Then the next part is up to. If they agree to the more than reasonable price of $160, then give it a go and gauge the service. If the service is good, then you have a spot to frequent (with 2 great providers) for a very reasonable $160. If their service is bad, never go back. It won't get better.
    Thanks for putting that out there as I too noticed the difference from CA to PHX. Its a good idea for us mongers to recommend spas that are reasonable so the rates stay within a fair bracket. I believe the girls know we know, they just try to see who will pay more. I have been a fan of: Infinity, K-Spa (Glendale) and Spa 63 aka Blue Spa; Sorry to see Fancy changed owners these were all good.

  4. #15861
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    Sasa

    Quote Originally Posted by Pico7877  [View Original Post]
    Saw Sasa (Sasha?) today. She's about mid / late 30's very pretty with some nice big chi chi's. She took awhile on the massage and said she had a small bump on her jaw I think she got a filling or something. For a second I thought she was saying she had a cold sore and I was about to run. But she just wanted me to stay away from that spot because it hurt. She asked if she could do a CBJ and I agreed, she also seemed a little paranoid about cleanliness. She even turned the lights on and inspected my junk closely. BJ was a little overdone and kinda toothy but it was better with 69. Then we tried doggy which was pretty great. Switched to mish and she kept kind of pushing me away with her hands so I didn't get all up in there. Maybe she has a problem with size but I'm not huge or anything. That was a little strange. I was having a difficult time getting there and she went way above and beyond trying HJ and more CBJ and I went well over time. I think she got chewed out so I gave an extra 20 for the time. She was quite disappointed and kept thinking it was her.

    I'd maybe wait until whatever is going on with her jaw is better. She was a very good sport and tried really hard Junior just wasn't cooperating today. But she did seem a little weird about my junk and the whole pushing away thing in mish wasn't great. I'd probably give it another shot to see if it can be better because she's damn hot and really aims to please.
    Dayum Bro, I'm sorry to hear that, I just visited Sasa today and my experience was very different. No mouth issues, when we were in mish, I penetrated her deeply and she seemed to enjoy it. Actually quite vocal, I had to cover her mouth and we both laughed about it. No lights on or inspections. Those E-cups were quite impressive and captivating as they bounced around in CG making me want to bury my face in them. Great GFE. I usually recommend Infinity when I'm in Phoenix area, as the ladies here are beautiful, fun drama-free and no upscaling.

  5. #15860

    Pricing

    Quote Originally Posted by BustedNut  [View Original Post]
    YMMV indeed. I went there today and Linda opened the door. She was pretty and slim with nice looking breastesses. I was told I'd have to wait about 20 minutes, but after 5 minutes Linda walked me back to a room. I got comfortable and Kiki came in looking pretty good in her silk robe. I admit I was a little disappointed as I was keen on Linda, but Kiki is no slouch. Kiki gave me a good rub down with a little teasing and had me flip over.

    That's when the negotiating started. I had paid $60 for 45 minute house fee and left $170 on the table for my donation. Kiki told me they don't do boom boom there, only HJ / BJ. She said she would give me a BBBJ for the $170, and when I balked, she asked for $150. I told her I must have misunderstood my friend (that's you PowerZ!) and got up to get dressed to leave. Oh, Kiki also told me they don't have condoms, so next time bring my own (even though she then produced a condom) . Anyway, when I was getting dressed she said boom boom for $170, but next time $200. OK, had her sit on my face and played with her impressive titties, then went to mish where I blew in the bag. Overall a disappointing experience, although I found Kiki quite attractive.

    I will say, I'm always dressed nice (usually out visiting customers), show up with 3 Boba teas for the ladies, am in good shape, easy on the eyes, like long walks on the beach, etc. I've never been negotiated / lied to like that. Definitely won't repeat.
    Linda came from west valley she knows better than that about the going rate aint nobody paying $$ for AMP pussy. I will give it another try and after that will go somewhere else. Hate negotiated pussy. They unhappy and mad and I sm mad.

  6. #15859

    Phoenix area does like to upsell

    Quote Originally Posted by BustedNut  [View Original Post]
    YMMV indeed. I went there today and Linda opened the door. She was pretty and slim with nice looking breastesses. I was told I'd have to wait about 20 minutes, but after 5 minutes Linda walked me back to a room. I got comfortable and Kiki came in looking pretty good in her silk robe. I admit I was a little disappointed as I was keen on Linda, but Kiki is no slouch. Kiki gave me a good rub down with a little teasing and had me flip over.

    That's when the negotiating started. I had paid $60 for 45 minute house fee and left $170 on the table for my donation. Kiki told me they don't do boom boom there, only HJ / BJ. She said she would give me a BBBJ for the $170, and when I balked, she asked for $150. I told her I must have misunderstood my friend (that's you PowerZ!) and got up to get dressed to leave. Oh, Kiki also told me they don't have condoms, so next time bring my own (even though she then produced a condom) . Anyway, when I was getting dressed she said boom boom for $170, but next time $200. OK, had her sit on my face and played with her impressive titties, then went to mish where I blew in the bag. Overall a disappointing experience, although I found Kiki quite attractive.

    I will say, I'm always dressed nice (usually out visiting customers), show up with 3 Boba teas for the ladies, am in good shape, easy on the eyes, like long walks on the beach, etc. I've never been negotiated / lied to like that. Definitely won't repeat.
    I moved to Phoenix 3 years ago from the SF area and before that LA. I had hundreds of experience over time and almost no upsells. But since I moved here, almost every provider wants to upsell. It seems to be a Phoenix area thing. In the beginning the big 6 gave me hope there was still sanity in the area, but I still see too many providers asking for more. Too me that is one of the biggest turnoffs. My first experience was a little AMP in Chandler. After the massage was done, she asked me what I want and motioned to her hand or mouth. I said her hand was ok and she quoted $200. I said way to much and offered $60, she countered with $150 (for L1), so after minutes of frustration negotiating we agreed on $80. At that point I just wanted to get it done. She went and got her supplies and came back I reached out to touch her breasts and she said, "touch breasts another $40, and lift the top another $40). Now we're back to $160 for L1. I was so mad at that point I just said finish and soon after I left. I NEVER went back to that AMP again. Now, after some time I know which AMP's don't upsell and which do. I watch these boards carefully and if they are an upselling AMP I just don't go.

    Desert Spa looks like a clean new AMP, but they are upselling constantly (Both Kiki and Linda). There are too many AMP's in the area to get into a war with a provider over services. Just be firm and tell her that's the rate and that's it. Then the next part is up to. If they agree to the more than reasonable price of $160, then give it a go and gauge the service. If the service is good, then you have a spot to frequent (with 2 great providers) for a very reasonable $160. If their service is bad, never go back. It won't get better.

  7. #15858
    Quote Originally Posted by Noleman2024  [View Original Post]
    I called to find out names of girls and she declined and said I don't need to know but will inteoduce when I got there. Kinda hung up on me, killed me mood. Maybe mamasan was having a bad day.
    Every time I've gone there the women were all older and not that good looking.

  8. #15857

    Kiki at Desert

    At bustednut.

    That's weird. Maybe they're trying to do less for more. It is definitely a business tactic. I knew Kiki from Jasmin so it was never a question about FS. And,. I always supply my own covers. I have not liked the provider supplied covers.

    There are a lot of other reasons for girls trying not to do FS. Imagine getting railed 5 times a day or more,. That's rough on a beaver. 🤣.

    Still, it's a pretty descent place once you get past the negotiation BS.

  9. #15856

    4 hands

    Quote Originally Posted by Noleman2024  [View Original Post]
    When they do 4 hand and FS do the girls typically go down on each other? Appreciate any insights from the experienced members.
    I've only had it happen once. Back in the Big 6 days (Great Spa)!

    Typically that don't do that.

  10. #15855

    4 hand question

    Quote Originally Posted by EastsideJack  [View Original Post]
    2 completely inexperienced and FOTB girls, but holy shit they are young, cute, shy, and tight. With a couple weeks experience I'm sure they will loosen up and improve. Suki and Jessica, both are younger than Tina / Spa63 and Lulu / Oasis. Yes, younger than my ATF girls from last 2 months. They are less fun to start, but get into it after a while, but they are teachable. Jessica is tall but has a tiny little pussy that reminds me of my first virgin girlfriend's pussy when I was a teenager, and her pussy gets wet with just a little light touching. She didn't even use lube with me! She acted very sweet and shy the entire massage. She tried calling herself Tina when I walked in, but I said that Mamasan told me you were Jessica, and she said OK, I'll call myself Jessica.

    I had Jessica 2 days ago and Suki last night. Jessica is the premium one if you like young inexperienced girls, but both really they are pretty equal on massage / GFE skills and looks. .6 house, 1.7 tip. I'll be back soon because I talked to both of them and neither has ever done a 4 hand massage on a man and I want to be the first. Ha! Ha!
    When they do 4 hand and FS do the girls typically go down on each other? Appreciate any insights from the experienced members.

  11. #15854

    Nice clean place

    Quote Originally Posted by PowerZ  [View Original Post]
    New place at the NE Corner of Arizona Avenue and Warner Roads in Chandler.

    Kiki from Jasmin is there and I just patronized the establishment. There was another girl there and she was thin, beautiful and had some big ol' tiddies. I'll have to go back and see her.

    The rooms are brand new, the place has the coldest AC I've ever felt at any AMP. It's 112 degrees out but the rooms were cold. I hate a hot massage room.

    Kiki is one of my ATF but I like them in their 30's & 40's. Amazing tits. Everything is covered with her but the Russian is my favorite and she also does camel slide prior to the main event. This is my 3rd time with her and it keeps getting better,. YMMV though.
    Good to be some new AMPs in east valley. Kiki is great, gives a great massage. 45 mins $50, L2 $. 4 with CIT and she took it like a champ she wanted $2 I was like hail no. Saw Dream from Spa63/ Infinity there. She goes by Linda here. She is super cute and friendly and a little crazy. Will have to try her next time, I did L2 with her at Infinity. She is there for 2 months she said. Will like a try both of them together I can see that being awesome. Very clean spa and new check out fellows. They will need to lower their pricing to Glendale I bet.

  12. #15853

    Kinda Rude

    Quote Originally Posted by BustedNut  [View Original Post]
    Su Massage is a Korean place that I've frequented. House fee is $80 for 45 minutes and a tip of $160 gets you full service. However, the talent is always very good looking, attentive, and they use their table shower.
    I called to find out names of girls and she declined and said I don't need to know but will inteoduce when I got there. Kinda hung up on me, killed me mood. Maybe mamasan was having a bad day.

  13. #15852
    Quote Originally Posted by PowerZ  [View Original Post]
    New place at the NE Corner of Arizona Avenue and Warner Roads in Chandler.

    Kiki from Jasmin is there and I just patronized the establishment. There was another girl there and she was thin, beautiful and had some big ol' tiddies. I'll have to go back and see her.

    The rooms are brand new, the place has the coldest AC I've ever felt at any AMP. It's 112 degrees out but the rooms were cold. I hate a hot massage room.

    Kiki is one of my ATF but I like them in their 30's & 40's. Amazing tits. Everything is covered with her but the Russian is my favorite and she also does camel slide prior to the main event. This is my 3rd time with her and it keeps getting better,. YMMV though.
    YMMV indeed. I went there today and Linda opened the door. She was pretty and slim with nice looking breastesses. I was told I'd have to wait about 20 minutes, but after 5 minutes Linda walked me back to a room. I got comfortable and Kiki came in looking pretty good in her silk robe. I admit I was a little disappointed as I was keen on Linda, but Kiki is no slouch. Kiki gave me a good rub down with a little teasing and had me flip over.

    That's when the negotiating started. I had paid $60 for 45 minute house fee and left $170 on the table for my donation. Kiki told me they don't do boom boom there, only HJ / BJ. She said she would give me a BBBJ for the $170, and when I balked, she asked for $150. I told her I must have misunderstood my friend (that's you PowerZ!) and got up to get dressed to leave. Oh, Kiki also told me they don't have condoms, so next time bring my own (even though she then produced a condom) . Anyway, when I was getting dressed she said boom boom for $170, but next time $200. OK, had her sit on my face and played with her impressive titties, then went to mish where I blew in the bag. Overall a disappointing experience, although I found Kiki quite attractive.

    I will say, I'm always dressed nice (usually out visiting customers), show up with 3 Boba teas for the ladies, am in good shape, easy on the eyes, like long walks on the beach, etc. I've never been negotiated / lied to like that. Definitely won't repeat.

  14. #15851
    Quote Originally Posted by PowerZ  [View Original Post]
    Sasa is also at Infinity but I did not see her. Momo said Sasa is worth the drive. (Maybe next time).
    Saw Sasa (Sasha?) today. She's about mid / late 30's very pretty with some nice big chi chi's. She took awhile on the massage and said she had a small bump on her jaw I think she got a filling or something. For a second I thought she was saying she had a cold sore and I was about to run. But she just wanted me to stay away from that spot because it hurt. She asked if she could do a CBJ and I agreed, she also seemed a little paranoid about cleanliness. She even turned the lights on and inspected my junk closely. BJ was a little overdone and kinda toothy but it was better with 69. Then we tried doggy which was pretty great. Switched to mish and she kept kind of pushing me away with her hands so I didn't get all up in there. Maybe she has a problem with size but I'm not huge or anything. That was a little strange. I was having a difficult time getting there and she went way above and beyond trying HJ and more CBJ and I went well over time. I think she got chewed out so I gave an extra 20 for the time. She was quite disappointed and kept thinking it was her.

    I'd maybe wait until whatever is going on with her jaw is better. She was a very good sport and tried really hard Junior just wasn't cooperating today. But she did seem a little weird about my junk and the whole pushing away thing in mish wasn't great. I'd probably give it another shot to see if it can be better because she's damn hot and really aims to please.

  15. #15850
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitn19  [View Original Post]
    Any friends have any details on current lineup at Cozy? Was planning on making a trip tomorrow morning but wanted to make sure lineup was at least decent. Into more petite, smaller girls. Totally fine with manmades. If lineup is lacking also down for any other place in the mesa / gilbert / chandler area. Appreciate any intel!
    I called them today on the way into town and was told Coco and Yuki were working.

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