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  1. #20825
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    Posts: 1164

    Grope a little

    Quote Originally Posted by RoadKing1  [View Original Post]
    What if they open pants or shirt and let you grop a little? LOL.
    I'm assuming you mean if a female cop lets you cop a feel. I don't think one would do that. But, if she did, she would still lie about it. Remember they can and will lie to get a bust. And, assuming there is no video evidence, a judge is going to side with the pig.

    Even if a judge is inclined to believe you, the prosecutor is going to press charges and extort you for a fine and costs, even with a reduced charge, and you're going to be stuck paying for a lawyer. So either way we lose. And, if you stick to your guns and demand a trial, its going to cost you even more because the lawyer is going to charge you thousands and there is no way to recover that money.

    Remember, the lawyers are officers of the court. They play golf with the judges and prosecutors and so on. They are all in it together to fuck the people.

  2. #20824
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    Posts: 3188
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTruth244  [View Original Post]
    What yourself in independence. Was talking to my buddy who is a a defense lawyer and he said there is an large increase of guys getting busted out there. Charges are "engaging a prostitute" and "possession of criminal tools. The criminal tools being any cash you have on hand for donation. LE can lie when you ask if they are LE, so don't think you're safe if the provider say they aren't.
    I'm sure there is some truth to all the chatter about Independence but, from my limited experience over the past 6 years, I have never once felt unsafe there. I only see the over 400 ladies there if that matters. Personally, I'd rather go there than downtown anyway, more convenient than downtown.

    The best we can do is try to visit reviewed escorts, ones with reports here or on other sites and use P411 if you have a subscription.

    Busts happen in every city in the US, some get reported in the news more than others, don't discuss anything incriminating OTP and all the other tips we share on here.

    I'm just posting this to let you know some of us have never had an issue with LE in Independence or anywhere else for that matter. But the nature of this game is always cat and mouse, and sometimes you do get "caught". After all, what we are doing is illegal.

  3. #20823

    LE check

    Quote Originally Posted by Metal134  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, it's crazy to me that people actually believe the myth that they have to tell you if you ask.
    What if they open pants or shirt and let you grop a little? LOL.

  4. #20822

    Anyone

    Things getting slow and all been seeing this one advertise a lot.

    Any comments??

    https://skipthegames.com/posts/cleve...-/375752455194

    Thanks.

  5. #20821
    Quote Originally Posted by DirtMerchant  [View Original Post]
    Agreed. When in touch with these touring girls I e repeatedly suggested to them that they find a different area to stay when visiting due to the reputation in that area. I've also said it to a few independent providers when I find out they are hosting in Independence. I've only ever saw one provider in Independence and that was when Claudia Downs was in the area a few years ago and that's only because I spoke to a lot of credible people who had sessions with her already and they confirmed she was legit. However, the last time I saw her there she was at a different hotel than the previous times and I was definitely getting side-eye from the staff on in / out so I stopped seeing her and she left shortly thereafter anyway.
    I've seen Paris G's there I think 2 times but usually when she comes she stays in Beachwood now. Aside from that I wouldn't see anyone there unless they have solid reviews here / TER.

  6. #20820
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTruth244  [View Original Post]
    LE can lie when you ask if they are LE, so don't think you're safe if the provider say they aren't.
    Yeah, it's crazy to me that people actually believe the myth that they have to tell you if you ask.

  7. #20819

    Independence

    Unless you are taking a sb or your gf to an Independence hotel I just cannot fathom why anyone in their right mind would take the risk meeting someone in that city (or even Beachwood for that matter). Both suburbs are well known for their frequent stings. Heck even Willoughby has had a few stings that have been publicly reported. Not worth the risk IMO.

  8. #20818
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTruth244  [View Original Post]
    Literally ALL. Even if they are legit it makes me nervous. Many providers have told me hotel staff will call the police if they notice a lot of guys in and out of a room. Not trying to take that chance if the Independence police have such a hard on for busting mongers.
    Agreed. When in touch with these touring girls I e repeatedly suggested to them that they find a different area to stay when visiting due to the reputation in that area. I've also said it to a few independent providers when I find out they are hosting in Independence. I've only ever saw one provider in Independence and that was when Claudia Downs was in the area a few years ago and that's only because I spoke to a lot of credible people who had sessions with her already and they confirmed she was legit. However, the last time I saw her there she was at a different hotel than the previous times and I was definitely getting side-eye from the staff on in / out so I stopped seeing her and she left shortly thereafter anyway.

  9. #20817
    Quote Originally Posted by DirtMerchant  [View Original Post]
    And of course all the touring providers almost all stay in Independence when they tour Cleveland which always makes me wary.
    Literally ALL. Even if they are legit it makes me nervous. Many providers have told me hotel staff will call the police if they notice a lot of guys in and out of a room. Not trying to take that chance if the Independence police have such a hard on for busting mongers.

  10. #20816
    Quote Originally Posted by Budd2  [View Original Post]
    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...land/189984203

    So based on you post, this would be an example of an ad I would avoid. Not saying it's a sting ad, but being in Independence makes it a no go. I wouldn't take a chance on any unknown providers in Independence.
    And of course all the touring providers almost all stay in Independence when they tour Cleveland which always makes me wary.

  11. #20815
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1164

    Independence

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTruth244  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, if it looks TGTBT is probably is. Lawyer said they are also trying to entice people to bring drugs to the encounter. Basically pretending like the provider is willing to take drugs instead of cash.
    Remember when talking or texting with a provider online to NEVER mention money changing hands for sex. 90% of the time they mention pricing in their ads. If they don't its a tipoff that they may be a sting. Not always but why take the risk? If a provider wants to talk about money on the phone don't do it. Just say that its illegal to exchange money for sex in Ohio and all you are interested in is meeting for a drink or coffee and getting to know her.

    As far as drugs go, that's red and blue lights flashing plus a siren, as far as I'm concerned. I would clearly state that I would never have anything to do with any drugs, I don't know where to get them and wouldn't have anything to do with that. Always remember that a provider who uses, even if not an addict, can get busted for possession. When that happens the pigs are going to try to turn them into a rat and especially in a city like Independence they will try to use them to set up guys like us to get reduced or dropped charges. Remember its all about the money guys. The courts and the lawyers are all in it together.

  12. #20814
    Quote Originally Posted by Budd2  [View Original Post]
    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...land/189984203

    So based on you post, this would be an example of an ad I would avoid. Not saying it's a sting ad, but being in Independence makes it a no go. I wouldn't take a chance on any unknown providers in Independence.
    Yeah, if it looks TGTBT is probably is. Lawyer said they are also trying to entice people to bring drugs to the encounter. Basically pretending like the provider is willing to take drugs instead of cash.

  13. #20813
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1344
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTruth244  [View Original Post]
    What yourself in independence. Was talking to my buddy who is a a defense lawyer and he said there is an large increase of guys getting busted out there. Charges are "engaging a prostitute" and "possession of criminal tools. The criminal tools being any cash you have on hand for donation. LE can lie when you ask if they are LE, so don't think you're safe if the provider say they aren't.
    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...land/189984203

    So based on you post, this would be an example of an ad I would avoid. Not saying it's a sting ad, but being in Independence makes it a no go. I wouldn't take a chance on any unknown providers in Independence.

  14. #20812

    Independence

    What yourself in independence. Was talking to my buddy who is a a defense lawyer and he said there is an large increase of guys getting busted out there. Charges are "engaging a prostitute" and "possession of criminal tools. The criminal tools being any cash you have on hand for donation. LE can lie when you ask if they are LE, so don't think you're safe if the provider say they aren't.

  15. #20811

    Drug free

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterMan119  [View Original Post]
    Met this one in Ridgeville this morning. Wow what a mistake! House is on a culdesac in a nice area, lots of neighbors out which was a little nerve wracking. Walked into a complete shit house, very little furniture, dirt everywhere on walls, so much dog hair on the couch. She was nice enough, but high as shit. $ for qv, as she was giving me dome, her phone kept going off, she would occasional flip out stand up and spit on the floor saying she can't do this, and that someone is waiting for her outside (noone was out there). Half way through, someone called her, I think her dad or something asking about bank stuff, she was slurring and couldn't answer his question, so he got into an argument with her on the phone about her being on drugs with her denying it, walking out of the room yelling. I eventually just left as she was talking on the phone, shouldve taken my money with me. Dome was nice while it lasted though.

    https://skipthegames.com/posts/cleve...-/005566114349
    It's the worst when they advertise themselves as drug-free and then end up not being drug-free. A lot of these girls would be living well off lives if they actually delivered on their services properly.

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