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**Vagrazer** · 05-29-25 08:11

Originally Posted by Todas [View Original Post]

Was wondering if there's a reason that post ops or TS escorts are not allowed for reviews? Seems that's when greek is readily available, and sometimes great fun. I've had some great sex with a post op. Malana, Gigi and Barbara.

Because they are still men. No matter what a surgeon has done with a knife, DNA doesn't lie.

**Todas** · 05-28-25 22:13

Was wondering if there's a reason that post ops or TS escorts are not allowed for reviews? Seems that's when greek is readily available, and sometimes great fun. I've had some great sex with a post op. Malana, Gigi and Barbara.

**JmSuttr** · 05-25-25 15:55

I hadn't checked this sub-forum for a while, but I received a PM alerting me to this latest development. From the article, it seems like the defense attorney in question has decided to play hardball, which isn't surprising to me.

A good defense attorney cares only about getting the best outcome for their client. Moral and ethical questions are often (usually?) of secondary importance as long as the bounds of legality are observed. Unless I've missed it, the prosecution's methodology and criteria for determining who to prosecute has not been fully disclosed. That's one important thing the defense attorney is after, IMO. Client names are certainly in play, but a key issue has to do with who was selected for prosecution, and why. There's also a shitload of other stuff being requested, although we don't have all the specifics.

From the defense perspective, there's nothing to lose. It's up to a judge to rule on the request and, if denied, it should provide a basis for an appeal. If granted, the prosecution has to decide whether it's worth revealing "how the sausage was made" and whether that risks a challenge from multiple defendants. Also, by requesting witness statements, that sends a signal that agency girls could be compelled to testify at trial. Not sure how far down that particular path (and others) the prosecution will be willing to go.

FWIW, if the clients hadn't been publicly "named and shamed," I bet they would've all agreed to a quiet plea deal to get things over with. Once they were outed, it's my sense they figure they have little to lose, and more to gain, by fighting the charges.

Interesting developments!

P.S. From what I know about how federal proceedings went against the agency owners, it was pretty much a classic money laundering case. Easily proved with records and minimal need for potentially problematic witnesses. No muss, no fuss!

**Nrlmus** · 05-24-25 10:13

Originally Posted by DarkClouds [View Original Post]

Agree. We know he isn't that smart. That's why he is where he is. But it's a dog eat dog world and he has to do what it takes. How smart would he be to get convicted? Not very. So, he's fighting his fight and that's how it works.

Moreover Toner is a lawyer and a politician, and we all know that this combination breeds the most ethical, and the most trustworthy people there is. An attorney turned politician would never betray a fellow men for self-serving reasons. Honesty and high moral ethics and values is what separates lawyers turned politicians from the rest of us mortals.

If I needed someone to babysit my children or to hold on to my most prized possessions I would sure ask a politician friend to do it.

**DarkClouds** · 05-23-25 21:03

Agree. We know he isn't that smart. That's why he is where he is. But it's a dog eat dog world and he has to do what it takes. How smart would he be to get convicted? Not very. So, he's fighting his fight and that's how it works.

Originally Posted by JmspTool [View Original Post]

I do they will prob drop the charges against the guy looking for the whole list discovery or plead they are protecting some people.

**JmspTool** · 05-23-25 20:38

Originally Posted by AstroAndy [View Original Post]

I think they went after and charged the guys with 400 or more messages (ie the infamous 28) So my guess is that there are lots of guys in the 2800 who may be one or two time customers that gave real info. So imagine you are that guy and you have been in the clear for the last year. Now Toner, and Toner alone, makes this demand for the balance of the names. Further imagine that your name now gets published because of Toner and you lose everything. If that were me pretty sure I know where my anger is directed.

Still think it was smart?

I do they will prob drop the charges against the guy looking for the whole list discovery or plead they are protecting some people.

**MaybeSometime** · 05-23-25 18:29

Originally Posted by AstroAndy [View Original Post]

I think they went after and charged the guys with 400 or more messages (ie the infamous 28) So my guess is that there are lots of guys in the 2800 who may be one or two time customers that gave real info. So imagine you are that guy and you have been in the clear for the last year. Now Toner, and Toner alone, makes this demand for the balance of the names. Further imagine that your name now gets published because of Toner and you lose everything. If that were me pretty sure I know where my anger is directed.

Still think it was smart?

Assuming you didn't use your real number or a number easily traced to you, at worst, I would think they could have your fake phone number and the first name used to register. It isn't even a guarantee that LEO has access to every message, from every customer, over all the active years. It still would be bad, though. I would bet most of that list is just that: fake numbers and first names.

**AstroAndy** · 05-23-25 17:09

Originally Posted by Hyperion11 [View Original Post]

I believe the cops only pulled the names for customers with more than 400 messages sent / received? So all he might get is a list of phone numbers, not names. This is not to say that press won't have a field day trying to trace those numbers to names. Use VOIP numbers folks!!

I think they went after and charged the guys with 400 or more messages (ie the infamous 28) So my guess is that there are lots of guys in the 2800 who may be one or two time customers that gave real info. So imagine you are that guy and you have been in the clear for the last year. Now Toner, and Toner alone, makes this demand for the balance of the names. Further imagine that your name now gets published because of Toner and you lose everything. If that were me pretty sure I know where my anger is directed.

Originally Posted by JmspTool [View Original Post]

Smart man, if hes going to go down hes going to take the rest with him and make the whole list public record.

Still think it was smart?

**Hyperion11** · 05-23-25 15:11

Originally Posted by EireAnn [View Original Post]

You think this is smart? It makes him look like a douche. Also, just because asks doesn't mean he'll get it. A name in a list isn't a crime.

I believe the cops only pulled the names for customers with more than 400 messages sent / received? So all he might get is a list of phone numbers, not names. This is not to say that press won't have a field day trying to trace those numbers to names. Use VOIP numbers folks!!

**EireAnn** · 05-23-25 15:06

Originally Posted by JmspTool [View Original Post]

Smart man, if hes going to go down hes going to take the rest with him and make the whole list public record.

You think this is smart? It makes him look like a douche. Also, just because asks doesn't mean he'll get it. A name in a list isn't a crime.

**JohnTies** · 05-22-25 14:00

Originally Posted by JmspTool [View Original Post]

Smart man, if hes going to go down hes going to take the rest with him and make the whole list public record.

Not sure it is smart or not I am sure he thinks he is being smart and thinks he is annoying the prosecution and all.

He may piss off the wrong person who is on that list and is not known publicly that gets known publicly.

This guy is playing a dangerous game in my opinion.

**JmspTool** · 05-22-25 13:27

Originally Posted by SecretZebra1 [View Original Post]

https://www.boston.com/news/local-ne...-brothel-ring/

Toner filed a motion to compel discovery after the Commonwealth failed to provide specific documents at his arraignment, court records showed. The information Toner requested includes a full list of the "entire 2,800 customers alleged to have engaged with this syndicate for purposes of purchasing commercial sex" and the identity of any other elected official identified in the case.

Smart man, if hes going to go down hes going to take the rest with him and make the whole list public record.

**Secret Zebra1** · 05-21-25 14:04

https://www.boston.com/news/local-ne...-brothel-ring/

Toner filed a motion to compel discovery after the Commonwealth failed to provide specific documents at his arraignment, court records showed. The information Toner requested includes a full list of the "entire 2,800 customers alleged to have engaged with this syndicate for purposes of purchasing commercial sex" and the identity of any other elected official identified in the case.

**HounDog3** · 05-15-25 15:14

Originally Posted by AstroAndy [View Original Post]

Anyone else getting way more than normal " database error" responses to the site this week? I basically can't get on the site on my Ipad and the laptop is 50/50.

Can't just be me.

Happening constantly for the past 4 days independent of the internet service provider. I'm getting it whether on Comcast or Verizon and regardless of commercial or residential type service. All points to server problem.