General Reports

**Baka 5678** · 06-03-25 17:44

It seem like everyone had issues with the site a few days back and last month as well, but now the new security system locks my phone to the livechat ad when I refresh my page, any tips to get pass that? I can only access the site with PC now.

**Chiro** · 06-03-25 00:54

I experienced a minor inconvenience earlier today.

I kept receiving timeout messages due to incorrect password attempts whenever I tried to log in yesterday and today, even though I was using the correct password. The system was showing an error message. After waiting 15 minutes, I was able to log back in. I then decided it was time to update my account email since the original one I used had expired. I changed it to a Gmail account, but I wasn't receiving the verification code. I was stressing because, when I tried to write a report like this one, I would get a message indicating that I needed to be verified. I emailed the admin but received no response.

So, I decided to go back and change my email again, this time to a Yahoo email, and I was able to get my verification code without any issues.

Anyway, I just wanted to give a heads-up to anyone who might be experiencing the same problem. I didn't want to lose my senior account and have to create a new one.

Glad to be back!

**LittleFingers1** · 06-02-25 15:03

I am sure I am not the only one that had issue with recent delays and trouble with the site, hopefully everyone else have an easier access to the site than I am especially when it comes to posting messages.

**Dildo Baggens** · 05-30-25 11:32

Thank you for the possible / probable explanation. I too that it was some sort of attack on the site.

Originally Posted by JanGorzo [View Original Post]

I think they update the platform against BOTs or machines. I think their servers were under DOS attack. They have introduced now this CAPTCHA requirement. CAPTCHA flags IP addresses associated with questionable activities, and I would guess that whoever was conducting the DOS attack was likely using a VPN. I will check later if you can still join the site using VPN.

**Jan Gorzo** · 05-30-25 10:42

I think they update the platform against BOTs or machines. I think their servers were under DOS attack. They have introduced now this CAPTCHA requirement. CAPTCHA flags IP addresses associated with questionable activities, and I would guess that whoever was conducting the DOS attack was likely using a VPN. I will check later if you can still join the site using VPN.

Originally Posted by DildoBaggens [View Original Post]

just wondering why this site was having access issues for the past few days? Perhaps Admin has shared this information somewhere on the pages, however I cannot seem to find it.

I'm grateful that, at least for now, it's up and running.

DB.

**Dildo Baggens** · 05-30-25 10:31

just wondering why this site was having access issues for the past few days? Perhaps Admin has shared this information somewhere on the pages, however I cannot seem to find it.

I'm grateful that, at least for now, it's up and running.

DB.

**BigBoDonk** · 04-21-25 23:52

How do you guys get your hookups. Like 1 on 1 ones. For me fastest one was when I met a drunk girl in club, next second we were banging in parking lot. But Facebook dating is also very lucrative in this sense. I know hinge is not bad. Share your thoughts.

**Taliesin92** · 01-01-25 18:22

Originally Posted by Sticker [View Original Post]

Fully agreed, and my suggested New Year's Resolution for posters is to drop this thread now. It's played out.

It is getting tiresome and I need to get back to banging k-girls.

**RogerOver** · 01-01-25 16:19

Originally Posted by Taliesin92 [View Original Post]

One other thing I forgot to note: Some of the guys who got busted in the Seattle case were very tech savvy. They used VPNs and other tools to protect their privacy. Guess what the prosecution said about that? They claimed using a VPN is proof that you are doing something illegal. So, as absurd as that statement is (given that nearly everyone in the corporate world uses VPNs to protect their company's internet traffic) the jury was told that using a VPN means you are a criminal.

On the flip side, a lot of the guys didn't use VPNs, so it was even easier to find them. But, either way, the prosecution turned that into a lose-lose situation for the men involved.

The only way to protect yourself from that kind of prosecutorial overreach is to lay low, use all security tools available to you, don't ever reveal your real name to anyone in the pay-for-play world (not the agencies, not the bookers, not the ladies, not your buddies, not anyone). Fly below the radar as much as possible and HOPE you never get caught up in a nightmare like the Seattle case, or the more recent cases in Boston and Virginia.

Bolded emphasis is mine. When this happened almost 10 years ago, I'm sure that argument worked well for the prosecution because it actually had the ring of truth. VPNs have become much more mainstream these days, and folks are encouraged to use them for all sorts of reasons: banking, netflix regions, porn sites, etc. I don't think they could get 12 jurors to buy that shit now. But I completely agree with your premise. Once they get after you, they can make it work. If one doesn't have the resources to really fight back, then there's a good chance they will take a plea deal. As far as grand juries go, the system can get a ham sandwich indicted.

Most aren't Robert Kraft, and don't have the resources to go full on nuclear and start investigating the investigators to fight back.

**Sticker** · 01-01-25 15:04

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

My reaction to this discussion, that has occurred in this thread and then in other threads in other locales just now, is that one doesn't want to draw too great a conclusion from this one case, in terms of our behavior. The Brit term is 'too clever by half'. Don't over-emphasize the importance of this 8 years old case. A good reminder to try to keep good OpSec at all times. It is way better never to have to face such daunting prospects than to try to figure out how to extricate oneself. The reasons dudes here will sometimes say their 'spidey sense' went off and they extricated themselves from some potentially touchy situation.

New Year's Resolutions?

Fully agreed, and my suggested New Year's Resolution for posters is to drop this thread now. It's played out.

**FarFarAway** · 01-01-25 10:40

My reaction to this discussion, that has occurred in this thread and then in other threads in other locales just now, is that one doesn't want to draw too great a conclusion from this one case, in terms of our behavior. Yes, guys were convicted of using USASG once. The prosecutors elected to charge them for that because, of all the things they had on them, they thought that would be the most successful course of action. Maybe even they were hoping to establish a useful precedent for future prosecutions. However, it does not appear that has occurred. It hasn't turned in to a big deal one needs to worry about anywhere guys are mongering.

The Brit term is 'too clever by half'. Don't over-emphasize the importance of this 8 years old case. This happening, yeah, it was bad. It gives all of us chills, just like the Ashley Madison hack. A good reminder to try to keep good OpSec at all times. It is way better never to have to face such daunting prospects than to try to figure out how to extricate oneself. The reasons dudes here will sometimes say their 'spidey sense' went off and they extricated themselves from some potentially touchy situation.

New Year's Resolutions?

**James D 2004** · 01-01-25 01:08

Originally Posted by Taliesin92 [View Original Post]

Then why weren't they charged with any of that? Why was no one convicted of any of that? The feds were involved in the case. The FBI logo was featured in the initial press conference in January 2016. (That was before SESTA / FOSTA, by the way.) If this was indeed an organized crime ring, there are laws against such things. The authorities could have brought a RICO case. They could have charged the men with human trafficking. Based on the prosecutors' lies, they could have charged some of the men with kidnapping. But no one was ever charged with any of those things. You have to ask yourself why? Why were all of these horrible-sounding allegations made, and then the most serious felony charges were leveled for nothing but writing sexy reviews?

There is no way to defend what happened to these men. It was classic prosecutorial overreach, on steroids. I think even the people of Seattle and Bellevue eventually came to realize that. The King County sheriff was defeated in the very next election. And the main prosecutor, Val Richey, was pushed out of his job and left the country. Poetic justice, I suppose.

What the guys were charged has little to do with why they were targeting. At least some of the guys were indefensible. An interview before allowed to join the club? I rest my case.

**Taliesin92** · 01-01-25 00:24

Originally Posted by JamesD2004 [View Original Post]

Before FOSTA, I didn't use VPNs for posting (but other purposes). If you posted on USG back then, you would be a needle in a haystack. Why would they single you out? The Seattle case is different. The whole thing is interconnected. If a person is convicted only because they wrote a review and nothing else, no IRL meeting, no phone communications, how many were convicted that way?

After FOSTA, the site owner is in trouble rather than just the posters. They are either squeaky clean or moved to where they don't have to respond to LE for anything, no logs.

For the history of CA, you only get busted if you go inside an MP and say the wrong things in a sting. If they only have your license plate they can't prove anything.

PM is from one person to another. As long as you don't say anything illegal you are fine. For HX you don't need to say anything as the menu is clear. You call another number anyway. They have to get your PM, and / or your phone messages, and then prove that you were there. It's easier just to set up a sting to get everything.

Now if you need to be interviewed face to face to join a league, you are indeed joining an illegal gang.

Then why weren't they charged with any of that? Why was no one convicted of any of that? The feds were involved in the case. The FBI logo was featured in the initial press conference in January 2016. (That was before SESTA / FOSTA, by the way.) If this was indeed an organized crime ring, there are laws against such things. The authorities could have brought a RICO case. They could have charged the men with human trafficking. Based on the prosecutors' lies, they could have charged some of the men with kidnapping. But no one was ever charged with any of those things. You have to ask yourself why? Why were all of these horrible-sounding allegations made, and then the most serious felony charges were leveled for nothing but writing sexy reviews?

There is no way to defend what happened to these men. It was classic prosecutorial overreach, on steroids. I think even the people of Seattle and Bellevue eventually came to realize that. The King County sheriff was defeated in the very next election. And the main prosecutor, Val Richey, was pushed out of his job and left the country. Poetic justice, I suppose.

**Taliesin92** · 12-31-24 23:52

Originally Posted by AceMcNasty [View Original Post]

Cautionary lore. Turns out these AMP and K-connoiseurs are so very, very ordinary after all. Book of Proverbs 16:18.

The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

I just have to laugh. Lots of misinformation in that story. The entire article was basically written by the prosecutors, with no fact checking whatsoever. For instance, it repeats the same big lie that these poor Korean women were "forced to work as prostitutes. " They were not. Nothing could be further from the truth. Those jobs were in high demand.

The police tried very hard to get the women to participate in the big lie. They promised them all kinds of special treatment, including permanent visas to stay in America, if they would testify that they were coerced into the business, forced to have sex, and not allowed to leave the apartments. (All bullshit.) It's in the interrogation transcripts. You can see how desperate the cops were to get these ladies to lie.

To their credit, none of the women were willing to lie. Through translators, they told the truth, that they were willing participants, and that no one ever forced them to do anything. Afterward, many of them simply moved on and continued working in other cities.

Yet none of that is reported in the Seattle Times. Fake news.

**Oc Amper** · 12-31-24 23:30

Originally Posted by JamesD2004 [View Original Post]

For the history of CA, you only get busted if you go inside an MP and say the wrong things in a sting. If they only have your license plate they can't prove anything.

Very true, only plates like using a VPN, in itself proves nothing. I was trying to make the point, if you want to remain totally anonymous, it is challenging.

Not talking about the plates, but all it takes is one minor mistake. Me for example, gotten lazy and use a credit card to pay for minutes on my burner. Did that once, a while back due to my minutes and T-Mobile gold running out that night, so had to bite the bullet and pay via a card of mine. Now, just lazy and pay with the card.