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  1. #2176
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkoRamius  [View Original Post]
    This is a lot more of a "vibe" business than anyone participating in it would like to admit. And a lot of times if the chemistry isn't there everyone will have a lousy time, and it isn't really anybody's fault.

    The only thing I'd say is that if you are consistently getting poor service from girls that consistently get great reviews you might need to ask yourself some tough questions. I don't think it is because of your looks (bluntly, there are damned few handsome devils in this hobby) either. Also keep in mind that the managers have incredible memories about customers and often pre-brief the girls about them, so you might have gotten a bad reputation from something arbitrary in the past and are now stuck with it. The memories of the managers can either work for you or against you and sometimes it is total luck of the draw which will happen.
    Marko Ramius is absolutely correct when he states it is a lot more about "vibe". He is also correct about the managers incredible memories about customers. I have been going to Shanghai since it opened, in fact I was the first customer the day it opened under the new ownership. I knew Iris from another store and she is great at pre-briefing the girls about what I like. Alyssa is good about doing the same with the girls. I disagree with the comment someone made about not being in the Shanghai Club. If you treat the girls well and you are good to them they will respond accordingly.

    I know some mongers have complained about Iris as the manager. If you talk to her about your not so good experience with a girl Iris listens and takes care of it. Alyssa does the same. So, instead of submitting a bad review, first speak to the manager about your experience and let her deal with it.

    Iris and Alyssa have done an excellent job getting beautiful young ladies into the stores. Keep in mind that some of the girls have not had much experience in this line of work when they come to this country. The owners see these bad reviews and then think the manager is not doing a good job.

    I will just close with Iris has been doing a fantastic job! We are fortunate that she is managing the store / stores. The same is true of Alyssa. I have never experienced bait and switch with Iris. So, I give her high praise regarding her managing skills.

  2. #2175

    Ymmv

    Quote Originally Posted by Legendaddy  [View Original Post]
    I'm noticing a pattern that the MTs very popular with other mongers give me very poor service. Nisa in Feb, Judy in March, and now Aki in April.
    This is a lot more of a "vibe" business than anyone participating in it would like to admit. And a lot of times if the chemistry isn't there everyone will have a lousy time, and it isn't really anybody's fault.

    The only thing I'd say is that if you are consistently getting poor service from girls that consistently get great reviews you might need to ask yourself some tough questions. I don't think it is because of your looks (bluntly, there are damned few handsome devils in this hobby) either. Also keep in mind that the managers have incredible memories about customers and often pre-brief the girls about them, so you might have gotten a bad reputation from something arbitrary in the past and are now stuck with it. The memories of the managers can either work for you or against you and sometimes it is total luck of the draw which will happen.

  3. #2174
    Or cause of money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonnaryi  [View Original Post]
    Sorry to be blunt here but the way you describe your behavior is off-putting. Telling a working girl to "sleep on top of you" is never going to go over well unless you've established an authentic connection, which it sounds like you hadn't.

    Not trying to beat you up but try adjusting your behavior and attitude and you'll get better service. Many mongers are ugly but are treated to GFE because they're charming.

    Better luck next time.

  4. #2173
    Quote Originally Posted by Legendaddy  [View Original Post]

    {-} She again motioned for fuck, and I again had to tell her "later". Told her to give me kisses on the back. {- I was kinda pissed at this point. Why the hell am I having to tell you what to do! Can't you do something sexy on your own, make me feel wanted? (Other than "let's fuck" so that you can kick me out in 10 minutes.) Totally killed the mood. Anyway she started licking and kissing the back, {- but didn't go below the waist at all!! No BLS, no TUMA. She quickly wrapped that up, {- AGAIN pushed for fuck. It had only been 30 minutes. Told her that we should cuddle for some time and then we can fuck. So we cuddled. She was mostly laying there like a dead fish, occasionally running her hands on my back. Told her to sleep on top of me, hoping that she'll do some tit rub, kiss my neck or something. {-} Nope, she just laid like a dead log on me. After 1-2 minute, she said that we're nearing the 50 min, so we should fuck and get it over with.

    So I finally had the condom put on me and we finished the final course. She took the condom off, and took me to shower. Gave me a shower, with less touching of the junk than other girls had done before. When mine was done, I tried to give her a shower. Squeezed some soap in my hand. But she made me hand it over to her, {-} not letting me rub it on her. So I gave up and started drying myself with the towel. When she was done, we went back to the room. I dressed myself, no help from her there either.

    She told me to see at Kiki next time. Walked me to the door and I was out. It had been 45 minutes.
    Sorry to be blunt here but the way you describe your behavior is off-putting. Telling a working girl to "sleep on top of you" is never going to go over well unless you've established an authentic connection, which it sounds like you hadn't.

    Not trying to beat you up but try adjusting your behavior and attitude and you'll get better service. Many mongers are ugly but are treated to GFE because they're charming.

    Better luck next time.

  5. #2172
    Quote Originally Posted by AnonyWA  [View Original Post]
    Anyone have recommendations for places to get a decent massage by a younger attractive masseuse? Sometimes I do crave an actual massage instead of pure action like at Good, One, Tokya, etc.
    Cici at Edmond Best Massage is fairly attractive, 7-8 looks. I'm guessing mid 20's. Massage only, pretty good massage. 0.60 for an hour.

    2261* 76th Ave W Edmonds.

    Its behind 85 degrees bakery.

  6. #2171
    Quote Originally Posted by AnonyWA  [View Original Post]
    Anyone have recommendations for places to get a decent massage by a younger attractive masseuse? Sometimes I do crave an actual massage instead of pure action like at Good, One, Tokya, etc.
    Rainbow Health Center is okay for that. I'd say in their 30's or so.

  7. #2170

    It happens

    Quote Originally Posted by Legendaddy  [View Original Post]
    I'm noticing a pattern that the MTs very popular with other mongers give me very poor service. Nisa in Feb, Judy in March, and now Aki in April.

    Probably because of my below avg looks and lazy eye and lack of assertiveness. I'm always a little shy, and let the woman take the lead. So they do the bare minimum. They know they don't have to bother retaining me as a customer because they are already "famous" and have no shortage of customers.

    Or maybe it is because I hand over the money right after entering the room and they think they already got the money, so they don't have to "earn" it.
    It happens just need to realized you're not in Shanghai club, bring your exp to mms. If they don't do anything about it, they'll lose loyal patrons. For them girls top and bottom line is $, once they have the $ they have control how they want to service. On rare occasion, some girls will do their trickery- bare minimum service / gps. For us monger bottom line is leave with a big smile, drained, and an exp worth the buck, and we'll return for next time. Nope some girls just don't get that. Once again if a girl treat a guy like a king, she's that guy's atf and that's not a good business. Also had more than a few bad sessions bcuz of their trickeries, lesson learn is don't pay for gps be rdy to walk out with $ back.

    Appreciate post like this, was planning to see her.

  8. #2169

    Decent massages

    Anyone have recommendations for places to get a decent massage by a younger attractive masseuse? Sometimes I do crave an actual massage instead of pure action like at Good, One, Tokya, etc.

  9. #2168
    I'm noticing a pattern that the MTs very popular with other mongers give me very poor service. Nisa in Feb, Judy in March, and now Aki in April.

    Probably because of my below avg looks and lazy eye and lack of assertiveness. I'm always a little shy, and let the woman take the lead. So they do the bare minimum. They know they don't have to bother retaining me as a customer because they are already "famous" and have no shortage of customers.

    Or maybe it is because I hand over the money right after entering the room and they think they already got the money, so they don't have to "earn" it.

  10. #2167

    Shanghai. Aki - My Rotten Luck

    After reading all the rave reviews, I was super looking forward to my session with Aki this evening. But the start itself was a downer. {-} She entered the room in a "yes, what do you want" manner. No hugs, or teasing or anything. Took the money, went out, came back. Then told me to take the clothes off. No help there. After some initial play and a BJ, she picked up the condom and motioned for fucking! {-} So soon. ! I know that once you burst, they don't let you play anymore, so I always save f-ing for the last. Then itself I understood that I am going to be shortchanged today.

    Told her to lay on the bed and started DATY. {-} She had long bushes on the kitty. I had read that in earlier reviews, but wasn't expecting this much. {+} She was seemingly responding well to the DATY, moaning loudly, arching her back and all, sometimes grabbing my hand.

    We swapped places and she started the BBBJ. She spit some saliva on her hand and then rubbed it on balls while doing the BJ. {+} It felt different and. Good!? {-} But no BLS. As soon as that was done, {- she again jumped and fetched the condom. Again told her "that will be the last thing".

    Told her to get on the bed and kissed her all over. The stories are true. Her boobs are really one of the best I've played with in last 5 months. I was getting handsy, but she held my hand and {-} didn't let me finger her.

    {-} She again motioned for fuck, and I again had to tell her "later". Told her to give me kisses on the back. {- I was kinda pissed at this point. Why the hell am I having to tell you what to do! Can't you do something sexy on your own, make me feel wanted? (Other than "let's fuck" so that you can kick me out in 10 minutes.) Totally killed the mood. Anyway she started licking and kissing the back, {- but didn't go below the waist at all!! No BLS, no TUMA. She quickly wrapped that up, {- AGAIN pushed for fuck. It had only been 30 minutes. Told her that we should cuddle for some time and then we can fuck. So we cuddled. She was mostly laying there like a dead fish, occasionally running her hands on my back. Told her to sleep on top of me, hoping that she'll do some tit rub, kiss my neck or something. {-} Nope, she just laid like a dead log on me. After 1-2 minute, she said that we're nearing the 50 min, so we should fuck and get it over with.

    So I finally had the condom put on me and we finished the final course. She took the condom off, and took me to shower. Gave me a shower, with less touching of the junk than other girls had done before. When mine was done, I tried to give her a shower. Squeezed some soap in my hand. But she made me hand it over to her, {-} not letting me rub it on her. So I gave up and started drying myself with the towel. When she was done, we went back to the room. I dressed myself, no help from her there either.

    She told me to see at Kiki next time. Walked me to the door and I was out. It had been 45 minutes.

    Neither at Iris nor at Alyssa were there.

  11. #2166
    Quote Originally Posted by Legendaddy  [View Original Post]
    But every review I read here. Almost every single one of them mentions they did DATY / DATO. So, that's what I was wondering about. Do they personally wipe down the MT, just like the MT wipes us down? Or do they just hope that the MT cleaned up before starting the session? Or just don't care and risk catching some bug from the DATY / DATO?
    Girls before like Angela, Maggie / Amy, and a few other would clean up first usually washing in the shower, but some of the girls lately do not unless they did it before they entered the room. The only one who has sent me pics is Alyssa and they were not pics of the girls that were there. The same is true of all the AMP's in the area. The girls really don't want their pics shared. Iris always tells me Shanghai is not busy, but whenever I am there the doorbell is always ringing. Seems like a pretty good revolving door. I am guessing Good in Renton is the same. I have only ever had one girl who jumped on for BBFS. She did it because she wanted to have round two. LOL It was Joey. I have bought larger condoms and left them there because the little ones they use are difficult for the girls to get on my shaft. In fact recently, one split while the girl was riding me.

  12. #2165
    Quote Originally Posted by LorenDaiz  [View Original Post]
    I'd assume dirty. Very. I avoid these 3 places. Are the women usually hot, yes. Have I and others gotten sick and it sore throats after. Yes. I love daty dato and dfk and BBFS but it's strict safety there. On my part. There are decent looking women nearby there that offer everything but Greek and even shower before asking me to wait while they clean up. Not worth it and the busy door.
    But every review I read here. Almost every single one of them mentions they did DATY / DATO. So, that's what I was wondering about. Do they personally wipe down the MT, just like the MT wipes us down? Or do they just hope that the MT cleaned up before starting the session? Or just don't care and risk catching some bug from the DATY / DATO?

  13. #2164
    I'd assume dirty. Very. I avoid these 3 places. Are the women usually hot, yes. Have I and others gotten sick and it sore throats after. Yes. I love daty dato and dfk and BBFS but it's strict safety there. On my part. There are decent looking women nearby there that offer everything but Greek and even shower before asking me to wait while they clean up. Not worth it and the busy door.

    Quote Originally Posted by Legendaddy  [View Original Post]
    Not sure what was the need to be so condescending.

    Yes, I know they are getting railed every hour of every day. That's why I asked that question - "when you are doing DATY / DATO, do you pick up wipes and lotion to clean her up before the act?" and if not, "do you just assume that she's clean?

  14. #2163
    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesPeligro  [View Original Post]
    Intro: I was intrigued when I read about Aki. I messaged Iris and asked for pics of both Shanni and Aki for giggles and shits. Aki's pic had an AI watermark at the bottom 😆. I'd say the pics are just about useless. What isn't useless is how well these shops have been bringing in top girls. Aki is well worth the trip.

    Provider Details: Beauty: 4.5/5, Body: 4.2/5, Personality: 3.5/5, Service: 4/5.

    Overall Ranking: 4.2
    Yeah Iris don't share any pics at least not to me, alyss on the other hand doesn't care much most likely share them.

    Is Aki pretty initiative like not reserve, holding back to somewhat want to cut the action time short? Rlly dislike some girls try to put on innocent act, want to be reserve oh don't touch here, I'm sensitive there, you big strong go slow, b**ch you see more dudes than I do cut the act and show me what you got, prefer girls not afraid getting down dirty hehe.

  15. #2162

    Vivi Spa Lynnwood

    Review of Coco, first the good then the bad and then my take.

    Good: she is a cute girl, average body.

    Bad: boring, lots of "no's", complained of pain, being tired, and kept asking me to hurry (takes me a while).

    My take: she isn't good at her job, no one likes to see anyone not into what they do, she is boring boring print and truly lame, avoid at all cost.

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