"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Peter Pan]

You are legend. Limo?? Super rich. This hobby also needs a business which brings money to spend on girls. 9 to5 job is tough.

Agree! This game / hobby now needs serious money or a lot of time to pull the talent we used to several years ago. Not the same anymore.

[Peter Pan]

Loren is real, but seemingly too shy (IMO) to pull the trigger to meet. I spent months with idle chat here and there, pleasantries, etc. She has the attention span of a gnat and thinks she is way hotter and more appealing than she is. She pops up with a new profile every few months and new photos. She's divorced with a kid and worst of all, a self-righteous attitude that's gotten worse from looking at her profile. I'd focus your time and efforts elsewhere, my 2 cents.

Thank you very much. I love this forum for reasons like this!

[AdmirerSecret]

Girls are agreeing with that? Finding girls has become tougher now a days, it was so easy last year. They just want to sell content fuck them.

Recommend some places you fuck quick and BJ in car? Where do you park? What I need to be cautious in selecting the place.

Honestly I'm up front with these girls, if they can't host or come to me I let them know the room price comes out of our meet allowance. I'm not paying them plus hotel each time. I've had a few here and there that are down to give a BJ or cowgirl quick ride in the pickup truck though and I'm fine with that too if it's just a quicky.

[MacLuvin]

Booking hotels has been expensive, what are otherways? Don't want to take babies home and also they don't host.

I should buy a van with bed LOL.

Honestly I'm up front with these girls, if they can't host or come to me I let them know the room price comes out of our meet allowance. I'm not paying them plus hotel each time. I've had a few here and there that are down to give a BJ or cowgirl quick ride in the pickup truck though and I'm fine with that too if it's just a quicky.

[MacLuvin]

I have been on and off seeking arrangements on and off since 2018 and what's going on now is unprecedented. I've never seen it this bad. Yes I know GPS is rampant from all the guys that have ruined that, but GPS is not what I'm talking about here. The amount of endless texters, girls that ghost for no reason, girls that have no intention on meeting, girls that will be talking to you and just fall off the planet, etc. Is off the charts. I've seen how seeking has changed over the years, but it's a nightmare compared to just 6 mos to a year ago. What is going on out there? What are you guys experiencing? And I'm not talking about trying to land a 8-10. I'm just talking about the mid girls. Is there that much stiff competition out there now? Or is this all the result of simps? I know social media has changed the game dramatically, but I'm just comparing to 6 mos ago. Something changed.

The hotter girls can just sell content and make money on their socials and simps will gladly dish out the cash. The average girls now think they're worth the $$ the hotter girls used to get so the market is all jacked up. Average 30-40's milfs wanting 500+ppm because that's what some hot college coed was asking before she decided to make OF content. When I first started SA 5 years ago, I was nailing 8's-9's in their early 20's all the time for half the $$ these 30-40 year old 4's & 5's are asking. It's awful. Last few girls I met up with from SA I turned down because when I saw them they were 10 years older than their pics and 25 lbs heavier.

[AdmirerSecret]

You are legend. Limo?? Super rich. This hobby also needs a business which brings money to spend on girls. 9 to5 job is tough.

I have an SUV that I already have set up for car camping, with a bed in the back. And I have limo tint on the back windows. It isn't super roomy, so some positions are limited, but it has worked on occasion and does save $100 vs hotel.

[Vader5]

I have been on and off seeking arrangements on and off since 2018 and what's going on now is unprecedented. I've never seen it this bad. Yes I know GPS is rampant from all the guys that have ruined that, but GPS is not what I'm talking about here. The amount of endless texters, girls that ghost for no reason, girls that have no intention on meeting, girls that will be talking to you and just fall off the planet, etc. Is off the charts. I've seen how seeking has changed over the years, but it's a nightmare compared to just 6 mos to a year ago. What is going on out there? What are you guys experiencing? And I'm not talking about trying to land a 8-10. I'm just talking about the mid girls. Is there that much stiff competition out there now? Or is this all the result of simps? I know social media has changed the game dramatically, but I'm just comparing to 6 mos ago. Something changed.

[MSmith3034]

Loren is real, but seemingly too shy (IMO) to pull the trigger to meet. I spent months with idle chat here and there, pleasantries, etc. She has the attention span of a gnat and thinks she is way hotter and more appealing than she is. She pops up with a new profile every few months and new photos. She's divorced with a kid and worst of all, a self-righteous attitude that's gotten worse from looking at her profile. I'd focus your time and efforts elsewhere, my 2 cents.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...f-807482c893d0

[FreudFro]

I simply don't believe that. Just because someone posts it?

It's not just "someone" writing it.

https://people.com/onlyfans-model-ma...lusive-8758383

This has been published by multiple magazines. Now, could she be bullshitting? Possibly. Maybe she should post her taxes.

[Peter Johnson]

I should buy a van with bed LOL.

I have an SUV that I already have set up for car camping, with a bed in the back. And I have limo tint on the back windows. It isn't super roomy, so some positions are limited, but it has worked on occasion and does save $100 vs hotel.

[Woodswoven2]

I've learned the hard way that no full body pic is usually a bad gamble. Not always, but more often than not. I try to resist the temptation of meeting a girl who doesn't include at least one full body pic. Even then there's the risk of it being an old outdated pic, but at least then you know there's a chance she's still slim.

Last woman I met w / out a full body pic, but really good headshots, had to weigh at least 180. That's more than a little too much when you weigh 160. Without fail, every woman I met without a full body shot was at least 20 lbs. Heavier than her pictures and usually much more. Bottom line--there's a reason women do not include a full body shot.

[FarFarAway]

I read online that Sophie Rain made $43 M last year on Only Fans. She had one guy pay over over $5 M. One guy. $5 M. For what? I have no idea. Even if he was banging her hourly, that amount is hard to fathom.

So yeah, there are dudes that have a lot more "fuck you" money than I have and choose to spend it in ways I can not comprehend.

I simply don't believe that. Just because someone posts it?

[AdmirerSecret]

Booking hotels has been expensive, what are otherways? Don't want to take babies home and also they don't host.

I should buy a van with bed LOL.

[AdmirerSecret]

Booking hotels has been expensive, what are otherways? Don't want to take babies home and also they don't host.

I should buy a van with bed LOL.

[Pussymeister]

I read online that Sophie Rain made $43 M last year on Only Fans. She had one guy pay over over $5 M. One guy. $5 M. For what? I have no idea. Even if he was banging her hourly, that amount is hard to fathom.

So yeah, there are dudes that have a lot more "fuck you" money than I have and choose to spend it in ways I can not comprehend.

"Read online. " Being online does not equate to truth. Its easier to post online than it is to scrawl something on the bathroom stall. Did Sophia Rain " show you the cashed check she wrote to the IRS for $15,000,000 in taxes due? Girls will throw out stupid numbers because in general they are stupid. Just keep negotiating and read the forum to get an idea of market prices.